Re: Re: dnsmasq and SOA

[Reco]

Hi.

On Tue, Mar 06, 2018 at 02:50:34AM +0100, RODARY Jacques wrote:
>  For the time being, my main concern is to keep my connection up! I did 
> succeed, without succeeding for long. Each time I rebooted  I had no access 
> to interness. Three
> times (or more) I couldn't have a  full access including on my home wifi  
> access point. I even reinstalled Stretch two times, before suspecting 
> something else than my
> dnmasq, NetworkManager etc...
>   It was difficult to find the guilty program, until I thought about 
> Ivahi-daemon which didn't appear in the logs. Shouldn't I  suppress the 
> Avahis pachages? As
> soon as I know, I come back to my main concern, i.e. DNS,SOA...  Anyway 
> Thanks you both Reco and Curt

As long as you don't need mDNS, you can safely remove these:

apt-get autoremove --purge avahi-autoipd avahi-daemon

Reco

Re: bien configurer son .emacs

[ptilou]

Bonjour

Le vendredi 2 mars 2018 17:20:02 UTC+1, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit :
> bonjour,
> 
> désolé pour le troll poilu ...
> 
> je recherche un ensemble de .emacs à employer
> pour:
> 
> LaTeX (auctex ?)  (muktilingue et bidi)
> mh-e (mail)
> 
> c'est pour mettre le pied à l'étrier à un préadolescent précoce
> et pour moi
> 
> slt
> bernard

.vimrc, çà c'est plus sérieux tant cas faire quelque chose le faire bien

-- 
Ptilou

nagios

[Gokan Atmaca]

hello

I added 5 servers to Nagios. When I add the sixth, I can not see it in
the web interface. But when I check it, it seems to exist. What would
be the reason ?

/usr/local/nagios/bin/nagios -v /usr/local/nagios/etc/nagios.cfg

Nagios Core 4.3.4
Copyright (c) 2009-present Nagios Core Development Team and Community
Contributors
Copyright (c) 1999-2009 Ethan Galstad
Last Modified: 2017-08-24
License: GPL

Website: https://www.nagios.org
Reading configuration data...
   Read main config file okay...
   Read object config files okay...

Running pre-flight check on configuration data...

Checking objects...
Checked 43 services.
Checked 6 hosts.
Checked 1 host groups.
Checked 1 service groups.
Checked 3 contacts.
Checked 1 contact groups.
Checked 27 commands.
Checked 5 time periods.
Checked 0 host escalations.
Checked 0 service escalations.
Checking for circular paths...
Checked 6 hosts
Checked 0 service dependencies
Checked 0 host dependencies
Checked 5 timeperiods
Checking global event handlers...
Checking obsessive compulsive processor commands...
Checking misc settings...

Total Warnings: 0
Total Errors:   0

Re: Re: dnsmasq and SOA

[RODARY Jacques]

 For the time being, my main concern is to keep my connection up! I did 
succeed, without succeeding for long. Each time I rebooted  I had no access to 
interness. Three
times (or more) I couldn't have a  full access including on my home wifi  
access point. I even reinstalled Stretch two times, before suspecting something 
else than my
dnmasq, NetworkManager etc...
It was difficult to find the guilty program, until I thought about 
Ivahi-daemon which didn't appear in the logs. Shouldn't I  suppress the Avahis 
pachages? As
soon as I know, I come back to my main concern, i.e. DNS,SOA...  Anyway Thanks 
you both Reco and Curt

Debian server integrated with AD - can only see one group for some users

[Robert Hardy (r.hardy)]

Hi,
Strange issue here. I have set up AD integration on a couple of new servers, 
using realmd / sssd, and am using AllowGroups in sshd_config to control access 
to the server.
This is working for users in my team. However, a newly created user in AD was 
unable to log in. Looking in auth.log, I see “user name@domain from ipaddress 
not allowed because none of user's groups are listed in AllowGroups”, yet the 
user is a member of a listed group.
I have tried using the groups command for the users, and found that for those 
who can log in, the full list of AD groups is returned. For the new user and 
several others, however, the only group returned is “domain users@domain”.
I suspect that this is a permissions issue in Active Directory, but am not sure 
what to look for and will talk to our AD admins, but any advice would be 
welcome.
Thanks,
Rob.

Question about Configuration Management covered at kali.training

[Gerard Blokdijk]

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Re: Multichannel audio listening

[Ric Moore]

On 03/05/2018 08:43 AM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:


Do they make 5.2 or 7.2 sound cards for computers--if so, you could consider a
similar approach using those 5 (or 7) channels.



I'm using a 7.1 USB sound device quite successfully. They  are quite 
cheap, too. Ric



--
My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
http://linuxcounter.net/user/44256.html

Re: WTF does Firefox 58?

[deloptes]

Michelle Konzack wrote:

> Hello
> 
> Am 2018-03-05 hackte 
>  in die Tasten:
>> Yes, I think either their client or one of the server hops along the
>> way mangled the content. In theory UTF-8 in headers and body is
>> standardized (each separately), but that says little about compliance.
>>
>> For all I know their server predates the standards extension.
>>
>> Link for those who care:
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicode_and_Email
> 
> I would say:  I go crazy with Stretch...
> 
> Since my upgrade, many things are not more working as expected.
> 
> Thanks in advance

I think you should check your setup or your client - perhaps older libs
still somewhere.

look forward to setup UTF-8 and keep it consistent

regards

hypertransport sync flood error occured

[phipo neo]

Hello,
I have several computers but with one of the other I encounter kernel
problem.
indeed on an AMD opteron 8356 and a motherboard Asus kfn4-D16 / sas, it
shows me an error message >> press F1 hypertransport sync flood error
occured on last boot ".
>> I searched the internet for esplication because I can only use Debian
versions earlier than 8.9.
For several days I try to set my bios so that the kernel does not panic
with 9.0, 9.3.
I know debian pretty well for 10 years, and I admit that my server does
not support kernels higher than version 4.13.

>> How can I install a stretch version (9.x) with a 4.13 kernel?
>> or can I set my bios?

Regards
Philippe

Re: Does bash have a tool ?

[Gregory Seidman]

On Sun, Mar 04, 2018 at 09:26:51AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
> My eventual goal is to create a personalized FAQ.
> To that end I've collected all my outgoing mail which DOES NOT have "Re:" in
> the Subject into a single file {used standard SeaMonkey tools}.
> 
> Using a text editor's search function I've placed "KEY1" at the
> beginning of the body of each message. Similarly, I've placed "KEY2" at the
> end of each body.
> 
> Searches led to  which
> describes tools to do word frequency tasks, primarily with bash builtins.
> 
> First I need to eliminate the irrelevant text between "KEY2" of the previous
> message and "KEY1" of the message of interest. It should be straight forard
> to do in BASIC.

awk '/^KEY1$/,/^KEY2$/' infile > outfile

> But is there an already tested function for that?
> TIA
--Greg

Re: NUC7i3DNKE + écrans qui clignotent

[Bernard Schoenacker]

bonjour,

serait il possible de faire un essai avec x2go server
et x2go client (pyHoca) ?

sources.list en pièce jointe

lien :

https://wiki.x2go.org/doku.php


slt
bernard

x2go.list
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Re: Bug when installing texlive in debian 9.3 stretch.

[Don Armstrong]

On Mon, 05 Mar 2018, Gustavo Moitinho Trindade wrote:

> OS: debian 9.3 (x86_64)
> Cinnamon 3.2.7
> Linux kernel: 4.9.0-6-amd64
> Processor: Intel Core i303110M @ 2.40Ghz x 2
> RAM: 3.7 GB
> 
> 
> After installing textlive with:
>     $ sudo apt install texlive
> 
> dpkg seems to fail configuring a bunch of packages that are tex related.
> 
> I tried to fix with
>     $ sudo apt --fix-broken install
> 
> But I got a similar output, which is bellow:

This looks like a variant of
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=832570

If I was to guess, there's probably some part of texlive-base or
tex-common which is only partially installed or has something else
wrong.

Could you try following the instructions in
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=832570#15 and/or open
a new bug against tex-common?

-- 
Don Armstrong  https://www.donarmstrong.com

[T]he question of whether Machines Can Think, [...] is about as
relevant as the question of whether Submarines Can Swim.
 -- Edsger W. Dijkstra "The threats to computing science"

Re: NUC7i3DNKE + écrans qui clignotent

[Christophe De Natale]

Le 05/03/2018 à 18:26, JF Straeten a écrit :

[...]
Voilà, si quelqu'un y comprend quelque chose ou a des idées, je suis
preneur parce que j'y perds mes pingouins pour le moment :-)

Je remercie aussi encore ceux qui se sont penchés sur le problème.

A+


Bonjour,

Le bios ne comporte pas d'options qui aideraient ?
Sinon, toutes les tentatives le sont en ltsp ?
Pas moyen d'essayer en plus "direct" (live-cd ou clé bootable) ?
Comment être certain que le standard est respecté ou compatible sur le 
câble dvi/hdmi ?


Bon courage,

--
Christophe De Natale

Re: NUC7i3DNKE + écrans qui clignotent

[JF Straeten]

Re,

On Mon, Mar 05, 2018 at 01:45:25PM +0100, JF Straeten wrote:

[...]
> Par contre, pour ce qui est logiciel, sans charger le microcode
> Intel au démarrage de la machine, ça fait clairement sapin de Noël
> quels que soient la distri et le kernel utilisés. Ensuite, avec
> microcode, ça s'améliore jusqu'à donner les moins mauvais résultats
> avec le 4.14 de buster.

Pour renchérir sur la partie logicielle, compte tenu de ceci :

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/1604819

j'ai essayé avec plus vieux et booté le NUC sur une jessie.

On est toutefois à des versions de noyau et de serveur X encore
antérieures à celles rapportées comme fonctionnelles dans ce message,
mais ça permet quand même quelques observations, aussi intéressantes
que délirantes :

- sans installer le microcode Intel, et avec un serveur X en 16 bit,
  c'est la foire totale : sapin de Noël ;

- en installant le microcode et en forçant le serveur X à 24 bit,
  c'est nettement mieux : ça ne clignote que de temps en temps ;

  NB1. je n'ai toutefois pas la preuve que le microcode est chargé, je
  ne le vois pas dans un dmesg -T (BTW, y a-t-il un autre moyen de
  vérifier ?)
  
  NB2. oui, j'ai fait le bleu en troubleshooting en faisant varier
  deux paramètres à la fois, j'en suis conscient :-)

- le serveur X semble adresser la carte avec le driver VESA, d'après
  le log ;

- enfin, en forçant le serveur X à "intel", X ne démarre pas car "No
  device found" : je pense que le pilote est trop vieux pour la
  carte ;

- et le meilleur pour la fin : quelle que soit la situation ci-dessus,
  le clignotement n'apparaît *jamais* quand il n'y a que la root
  window d'affichée. C'est au lancement de quelques rxvt (ou un
  Thunar) que ça commence à foirer. Mais en les fermant, le
  clignotement s'arrête net. Idem avec le screensaver : le lancer fait
  réapparaître l'écran, et il se lance normalement, pourvu que ça soit
  sur la root window uniquement, au terme de son délai DPMS, sans que
  ça ne foire...

  NB1. ce poste tourne sous i3, donc au lancement il n'y a qu'une
  barre de statut indiquant le n° de workspace sur la root window.


Voilà, si quelqu'un y comprend quelque chose ou a des idées, je suis
preneur parce que j'y perds mes pingouins pour le moment :-)

Je remercie aussi encore ceux qui se sont penchés sur le problème.

A+


-- 

JFS.

Re: hotspot

[Dan Ritter]

On Mon, Mar 05, 2018 at 05:46:26PM +0300, Gokan Atmaca wrote:
> >>
> >> I want to create a hotspot system on Debian.
> >> Can you help me with this?
> >
> > You need hostapd and a compatible wifi adapter.
> 
> 
> Actually I want something similar to the captive portal. Is there such
> a software you can recommend? (For example: Pfsense Captive Portal
> ...)


You still start with hostapd, then you need to set
authentication methods. Lots of googleable things.

-dsr-

Re: Does bash have a tool ?

[John Hasler]

That looks like a real Model 19 ASR.
-- 
John Hasler 
jhas...@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Multichannel audio listening

[rhkramer]

On Monday, March 05, 2018 11:14:18 AM Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> Let's then have a two-channels audio file, let's call it input.wav.  Sox
> should be told to send channel 1 of input.wav to soundcard 1 and channel 2
> of input.wav to soundcard 2.  Having a look at sox manual, I didn't find
> anything such...
> 

My suggestion is jack (even though I've never used it)--have you looked at 
that?

Re: Multichannel audio listening

[Jeremy Nicoll]

On Mon, 5 Mar 2018, at 16:14, Rodolfo Medina wrote:

> Let's then have a two-channels audio file, let's call it input.wav.  Sox 
> should
> be told to send channel 1 of input.wav to soundcard 1 and channel 2 of
> input.wav to soundcard 2.  Having a look at sox manual, I didn't find anything
> such...

I did say earlier:

> >> Maybe 'sox' can direct audio to multiple channels, but I think you
> >> will need to tell sox which hardware devices to use.  The section
> >> of the sox manual, page 3, "Playing & Recording Audio" might help.

You'll need to adapt the definition of the output device to whatever 
your hardware requires.   That is, I expect that setting AUDIODEV will
be the answer, but I can't say HOW you would set it.You'd need to 
look at the manual for your specific hardware, I think.

-- 
Jeremy Nicoll - my opinions are my own.

Bug when installing texlive in debian 9.3 stretch.

[Gustavo Moitinho Trindade]

OS: debian 9.3 (x86_64)
Cinnamon 3.2.7
Linux kernel: 4.9.0-6-amd64
Processor: Intel Core i303110M @ 2.40Ghz x 2
RAM: 3.7 GB


After installing textlive with:
    $ sudo apt install texlive

dpkg seems to fail configuring a bunch of packages that are tex related.

I tried to fix with
    $ sudo apt --fix-broken install

But I got a similar output, which is bellow:

Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
17 not fully installed or removed.
After this operation, 0 B of additional disk space will be used.
Setting up tex-common (6.06) ...
Running mktexlsr. This may take some time... done.
Running updmap-sys. This may take some time... done.
Running mktexlsr /var/lib/texmf ... done.
Building format(s) --all.
    This may take some time...
fmtutil failed. Output has been stored in
/tmp/fmtutil.mCfb4czR
Please include this file if you report a bug.

dpkg: error processing package tex-common (--configure):
 subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of texlive-pictures-doc:
 texlive-pictures-doc depends on tex-common (>= 6); however:
  Package tex-common is not configured yet.

dpkg: error processing package texlive-pictures-doc (--configure):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of prosper:
 prosper depends on tex-common (>= 6); however:
  Package tex-common is not configured yet.

dpkg: error processing package prosper (--configure):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of texlive-pstricks-doc:
 texlive-pstricks-doc depends on tex-common (>= 6); however:
  Package tex-common is not configured yet.

dpkg: error processing package texlive-pstricks-doc (--configure):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of texlive-pictures:
 texlive-pictures depends on tex-common (>= 6); however:
  Package tex-common is not configured yet.

dpkg: error processing package texlive-pictures (--configure):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of tipa:
 tipa depends on tex-common (>= 3); however:
  Package tex-common is not configured yet.

dpkg: error processing package tipa (--configure):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of texlive-font-utils:
 texlive-font-utils depends on tex-common (>= 6); however:
  Package tex-common is not configured yet.

dpkg: error processing package texlive-font-utils (--configure):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of 
texlive-latex-recommended-doc:

 texlive-latex-recommended-doc depends on tex-common (>= 6); however:
  Package tex-common is not configured yet.

dpkg: error processing package texlive-latex-recommended-doc (--configure):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of 
texlive-fonts-recommended-doc:

 texlive-fonts-recommended-doc depends on tex-common (>= 6); however:
  Package tex-common is not configured yet.

dpkg: error processing package texlive-fonts-recommended-doc (--configure):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of 
texlive-fonts-recommended:

 texlive-fonts-recommended depends on tex-common (>= 6); however:
  Package tex-common is not configured yet.

dpkg: error processing package texlive-fonts-recommended (--configure):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of texlive:
 texlive depends on texlive-fonts-recommended (>= 2016.20170123-2); 
however:

  Package texlive-fonts-recommended is not configured yet.

dpkg: error processing package texlive (--configure):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of 
texlive-generic-recommended:

 texlive-generic-recommended depends on tex-common (>= 6); however:
  Package tex-common is not configured yet.

dpkg: error processing package texlive-generic-recommended (--configure):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of texlive-latex-base:
 texlive-latex-base depends on tex-common (>= 6); however:
  Package tex-common is not configured yet.

dpkg: error processing package texlive-latex-base (--configure):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of texlive-latex-base-doc:
 texlive-latex-base-doc depends on tex-common (>= 6); however:
  Package tex-common is not configured yet.

dpkg: error processing package texlive-latex-base-doc (--configure):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of texlive-pstricks:
 texlive-pstricks depends on tex-common (>= 6); however:
  

Re: Let's Encrypt and certbot-auto problem

[Greg Wooledge]

On Mon, Mar 05, 2018 at 04:16:49PM +, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> Michelle Konzack wrote:
> >
> >Does  someone  know  a  Cert-Creator/Updater  which  allow  to   set   a
> >destination directory for the certs and does NOT touch the APACHE Config
> >files?
> 
> I use dehydrated (renamed from letsencrypt.sh), which doesn't do
> anything like that. It just needs a single alias or similar in each
> vhost to deal with the ACME challenges. Very much recommended, and
> easy to work with.

I'm using dehydrated as well, on wheezy (it wasn't packaged in wheezy,
so there is some initial work to get it in place), with an nginx web
server.

Re: Completely disable Hibernation

[Stefan Monnier]

> Can someone advise me of the best-practice way to completely disable
> Hibernation system-wide?

I don't know the "best-practice way" to do it, but a hackish way you can
do it is by adding

touch /var/run/do-not-hibernate

to your /etc/rc.local.


Stefan

Re: Let's Encrypt and certbot-auto problem

[Steve McIntyre]

Michelle Konzack wrote:
>
>Does  someone  know  a  Cert-Creator/Updater  which  allow  to   set   a
>destination directory for the certs and does NOT touch the APACHE Config
>files?

I use dehydrated (renamed from letsencrypt.sh), which doesn't do
anything like that. It just needs a single alias or similar in each
vhost to deal with the ACME challenges. Very much recommended, and
easy to work with.

-- 
Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com
"Every time you use Tcl, God kills a kitten." -- Malcolm Ray

Re: Multichannel audio listening

[Rodolfo Medina]

rhkra...@gmail.com writes:

> On Monday, March 05, 2018 05:49:45 AM Jeremy Nicoll wrote:
>> On Mon, 5 Mar 2018, at 09:39, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
>> Does your computer, or attached soundcard(s) have capacity to
>> drive three outputs at once?
>> 
>> If it does I think you'll need to tell whatever software controls that
>> hardware where to take audio-data from.
>> 
>> Maybe 'sox' can direct audio to multiple channels, but I think you
>> will need to tell sox which hardware devices to use.  The section
>> of the sox manual, page 3, "Playing & Recording Audio" might help.
>
> Without having ever (intentionally) used jack (JACK (Jack Audio Connection 
> Kit)), I would guess that it might be useful.
>
> (Like Jeremy says, you will need 3 output devices.)  Somewhere along the line
> I bought some audio devices (my choice of words) that are, afaik, like a
> sound card built into a very small (USB) plug like device.  I can plug it
> into a USB and then plug stereo headphones into it--the device functions like
> a sound card, self powered from the USB port.
>
> I bought those, as I often do such things, off ebay from the far East.
>
> I suppose you might do a hinky workaround to get two output devices from one 
> (stereo) sound card by (possibly after merging stereo signals into a mono 
> signal) sending a different (mono) signal to each channel (i.e., left and 
> right) of a stereo sound card, at least for a sort of feasibility test.
>
> Do they make 5.2 or 7.2 sound cards for computers--if so, you could consider
> a similar approach using those 5 (or 7) channels.


Let's then have a two-channels audio file, let's call it input.wav.  Sox should
be told to send channel 1 of input.wav to soundcard 1 and channel 2 of
input.wav to soundcard 2.  Having a look at sox manual, I didn't find anything
such...

Rodolfo

Let's Encrypt and certbot-auto problem

[Michelle Konzack]

Hi *,

my websites are installed in a scheme like

/srv/
 APACHE_availlable/
 APACHE_conf.d/
 APACHE_configs/
 APACHE_enabled/
 CONFIG_webmail.tamay-dogan.net/
htdocs/
includes/
logs/
squirrelmail/
ssl/cert.pem
chain.pem
fullchain.pem
privkey.pem

and the WHOLE /srv/ directory run unpriviliged.   However,  certbot-auto
is working BUT, it modify all the time my VHost configs and then  Apache
does not more restart...  Also my configs are managed by a VHost Manager
and it can not more access the files because certbot-auto has to run  as
root and change the permissions of the config files.

Does  someone  know  a  Cert-Creator/Updater  which  allow  to   set   a
destination directory for the certs and does NOT touch the APACHE Config
files?

Note:   I even do not know, WHY certbot-auto change every time
the Apache configs, even if nothing was changed...

Thanks in advance

-- 
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GNU/Linux Developer 00372-54541400

Re: WTF does Firefox 58?

[Michael Stone]

On Mon, Mar 05, 2018 at 05:50:47PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote:

Hello

Am 2018-03-05 hackte 
 in die Tasten:

Yes, I think either their client or one of the server hops along the
way mangled the content. In theory UTF-8 in headers and body is
standardized (each separately), but that says little about compliance.

For all I know their server predates the standards extension.

Link for those who care:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicode_and_Email


I would say:  I go crazy with Stretch...

Since my upgrade, many things are not more working as expected.


I'd tend to blame squirrelmail (which isn't packaged in stretch). 
Roundcube tends to be a more up-to-date web mail tool.


Mike Stone

Re: Completely disable Hibernation

[Felix Miata]

coco...@t-online.de composed on 2018-03-05 16:39 (UTC+0100):

> Debian MATE 9.2.1.

> I don't want to be able to initiate Hibernate manually or for Hibernate
> ever to be automatically initiated by the system.

> Can someone advise me of the best-practice way to completely disable
> Hibernation system-wide?

Remove resume= and include noresume in all bootloader stanza(s) is how
I do it.
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Completely disable Hibernation

[coco...@t-online.de]

Hi.

Debian MATE 9.2.1.

I don't want to be able to initiate Hibernate manually or for Hibernate
ever to be automatically initiated by the system.

Can someone advise me of the best-practice way to completely disable
Hibernation system-wide?

Thanks.

Re: base-files en version plus élevée sur stretch que stretch-updates

[Daniel Caillibaud]

Le 05/03/18 à 16:10, Sébastien Villemot  a écrit :
SV> Ce qui explique que deux versions semblent aujourd’hui coexister.

Merci pour l'explication !

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Re: WTF does Firefox 58?

[Michelle Konzack]

Hello

Am 2018-03-05 hackte 
 in die Tasten:
> Yes, I think either their client or one of the server hops along the
> way mangled the content. In theory UTF-8 in headers and body is
> standardized (each separately), but that says little about compliance.
>
> For all I know their server predates the standards extension.
>
> Link for those who care:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicode_and_Email

I would say:  I go crazy with Stretch...

Since my upgrade, many things are not more working as expected.

Thanks in advance

-- 
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GNU/Linux Developer 00372-54541400

Re: NUC7i3DNKE + écrans qui clignotent

[JF Straeten]

Re,

On Mon, Mar 05, 2018 at 04:19:47PM +0100, Yann Serre wrote:
> Le 05/03/2018 à 13:59, JF Straeten a écrit :
> > Les moniteurs datent de 2011 et 2012, certes, mais ce sont des DELL
> > qui coûtaient un bras, et dont j'espère donc quand même que
> > l'électronique est potable:-)  En outre, ils fonctionnent parfaitement
> > sur une autre machine, chacun seul ou les deux ensemble...
> 
> J'ai 6 Samsung qui coûtaient 6 bras dont 4 sont tombés en panne le même
> trimestre après 10 ans de bons et loyaux services. Passé à Asus depuis.

Certes, j'entends bien, mais les écrans fonctionnent parfaitement sur
un client Wyse actuellement...

Merci,

-- 

JFS.

Re: can someone tell me how to make FF fill out, or type into a form, and submit it?

[Jeremy Nicoll]

On Mon, 5 Mar 2018, at 15:30, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, March 04, 2018 11:50:35 PM Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Sunday 04 March 2018 23:35:37 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Sunday, March 04, 2018 10:19:00 PM Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > I have just completed trying nearly all the browsers in the wheezy
> > > > repo's, without finding one that can do that. All, when arriving at
> > > > such a page, spin the mouse cursor forever, blocking any progress
> > > > from that point on. I can with most, type into the form, but the
> > > > spinning cursor prevents any response to the submit, or next page
> > > > buttons. True even when no pluggins are installed.
> > > > 
> > > > Is there a fix for this?
> > > 
> > > Do you have an example of a form / URL that doesn't work?  I don't
> > > think I have any trouble.
> > 
> >  > ep=C2Flc0NpcGhlcjAxhwtCJFUCsnlrluM4QSDJeqmcYN5jmug6V2q9RP_8-SOOx5PXb4pa
> > ZhXnlxtyGH9YCL4UVSCeBoIFgSVb6g9EgGPRJvaj0kX1ncsMZDmmLMc=0>
> 
> Well, that page did not work for me with Firefox ESR 52.6.0 (64-bit) on my 
> Wheezy system, even after enabling Java and Javascript and disabling NoScript.

The first page of the form works just fine in FF 58.0.2 under Windows, though 
I invented mainy random garbage to fill the fields.  When I clicked the button
at the foot of the page there was a "revolving cursor" for maybe a couple of
seconds, then the next page showed up with a template letter .

-- 
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Re: can someone tell me how to make FF fill out, or type into a form, and submit it?

[rhkramer]

On Sunday, March 04, 2018 11:50:35 PM Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Sunday 04 March 2018 23:35:37 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Sunday, March 04, 2018 10:19:00 PM Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > I have just completed trying nearly all the browsers in the wheezy
> > > repo's, without finding one that can do that. All, when arriving at
> > > such a page, spin the mouse cursor forever, blocking any progress
> > > from that point on. I can with most, type into the form, but the
> > > spinning cursor prevents any response to the submit, or next page
> > > buttons. True even when no pluggins are installed.
> > > 
> > > Is there a fix for this?
> > 
> > Do you have an example of a form / URL that doesn't work?  I don't
> > think I have any trouble.
> 
>  ep=C2Flc0NpcGhlcjAxhwtCJFUCsnlrluM4QSDJeqmcYN5jmug6V2q9RP_8-SOOx5PXb4pa
> ZhXnlxtyGH9YCL4UVSCeBoIFgSVb6g9EgGPRJvaj0kX1ncsMZDmmLMc=0>

Well, that page did not work for me with Firefox ESR 52.6.0 (64-bit) on my 
Wheezy system, even after enabling Java and Javascript and disabling NoScript.

Such a failure is unusual for me--occasionally, I have found a few pages with 
a similar problem, and without knowing exactly, I attribute the problem to the 
webpage using more advanced features than my version of Firefox can deal with.

I may try the same page later on my Jessie (iirc) system with a more up-to-
date Firefox.  (It is a pain / frustrating to type in that information and 
then have it fail to do anything, but this (the subject of the petition) is an 
important issue.)

Re: WTF does Firefox 58?

[Виталий Воронов]

On Mon, 05 Mar 2018 15:19:48 +0100
deloptes  wrote:

> rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> > I think that is the gentleman's name, but not rendered properly--for
> > example, maybe his name (when he sent the post) contained UTF-8
> > characters (or some other encoding, appropriate to his locale), and
> > your computer (or, at least, your email client), is not able (or
> > set) to properly handle / render those.  
> 
> perhaps you check your client - here it is clearly readable.
> 

Yes, I think either their client or one of the server hops along the
way mangled the content. In theory UTF-8 in headers and body is
standardized (each separately), but that says little about compliance.

For all I know their server predates the standards extension.

Link for those who care: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicode_and_Email

Re: NUC7i3DNKE + écrans qui clignotent

[Yann Serre]

Le 05/03/2018 à 13:59, JF Straeten a écrit :

Les moniteurs datent de 2011 et 2012, certes, mais ce sont des DELL
qui coûtaient un bras, et dont j'espère donc quand même que
l'électronique est potable:-)  En outre, ils fonctionnent parfaitement
sur une autre machine, chacun seul ou les deux ensemble...


J'ai 6 Samsung qui coûtaient 6 bras dont 4 sont tombés en panne le même 
trimestre après 10 ans de bons et loyaux services. Passé à Asus depuis.

Re: Does bash have a tool ?

[Curt]

On 2018-03-05, John Hasler  wrote:
> I wrote:
>> The Model 19 was more fun.
>
> Richard Owlett writes:
>> Don't recognize the model.
>
> And here I thought you went way back.  The Model 19 did 5-level baudot.
> We used them for amateur radio teletype in the 60s.  The machine had
> some real heft to it.  It was driven by a 1/4 hp motor.  Lots of
> rotating parts and a heavy cast-iron carriage the jumped up and down
> when the machine shifted.

This thing (or something like it)?

http://jproc.ca/crypto/teletype/19asr_b.jpg

-- 
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Samuel Beckett

Re: base-files en version plus élevée sur stretch que stretch-updates

[Sébastien Villemot]

Bonjour,

On Mon, Mar 05, 2018 at 11:17:16AM +0100, Daniel Caillibaud wrote:

> https://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names=base-files
> montre un update en version antérieure à l'original, c'est bizarre non ?
> 
> Avec les préférences apt par défaut, les deux ont la même priorité, donc
> c'est pas un drame, mais je trouve ça louche…

Cette bizarrerie est due à un accident de parcours lors de la publication de la
version 9.2 de Debian.

Comme le paquet base-files contient le fichier /etc/debian_version, celui-ci
est mis à jour à chaque nouvelle version (majeure comme mineure) de Debian. Ces
mises à jour sont normalement distribuées via la suite "stable" (en ce moment
égale à "stretch").

Mais lors de la publication de Debian 9.2, la mise à jour de base-files
(version 9.9+deb9u2) avait été oubliée (donc en particulier /etc/debian_version
contenait toujours 9.1).

Comme il était trop tard pour distribuer cette mise à jour via la suite
"stretch", la solution adoptée a été de la distribuer via "stretch-updates"
(sans attendre Debian 9.3 prévue quelques mois plus tard).

Puis, lorsque Debian 9.3 est sortie, base-files (version 9.9+deb9u3) a été mis
à jour via la suite "stretch", comme d’habitude.

Ce qui explique que deux versions semblent aujourd’hui coexister. Mais ça n’a
aucune conséquence négative en pratique, puisque c’est bien la version
9.9+deb9u3 qui est installée par apt (sauf si les priorités entre dépôts ont
été bidouillés, mais dans ce cas-là l’utilisateur est censé savoir ce qu’il
fait).

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Re: Origin of /var/run contents

[Greg Wooledge]

On Sat, Mar 03, 2018 at 12:09:54PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Saturday 03 March 2018 11:14:34 Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote:
> > Gene Heskett:
> > > Didn't anyone think of the stuff that runs as a user?
> >
> > They did.  They gave you a /run/user/$UID directory owned by you, and
> > an XDG_RUNTIME_DIR environment variable whose value points to it that
> > you use so that its location is configurable.  They also gave you a
> > manual entry.
(snip)

> I don't believe it was documented, or even existed at the time I moved my 
> stuff. This machine, and 3 others here, running linuxcnc, are still 
> wheezy. One experimental install on a pi is running jessie.

All of the stuff Jonathan is describing is from systemd, which basically
means jessie and later.

Wheezy used sysvinit and related pacakges, not systemd.

Jessie does have the file-hierarchy(7) man page that Jonathan mentioned.
Note that the first sentence in this man page mentions systemd.

Re: WTF does Firefox 58?

[Stefan Monnier]

> since my bank forced me to an upgrade to Firefox 58 I am runing into the

Just install UAControl (or any other such plugin that lets you control
your user-agent string) and keep using the version you prefer.


Stefan

Re: hotspot

[Gokan Atmaca]

>>
>> I want to create a hotspot system on Debian.
>> Can you help me with this?
>
> You need hostapd and a compatible wifi adapter.


Actually I want something similar to the captive portal. Is there such
a software you can recommend? (For example: Pfsense Captive Portal
...)

On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 5:22 PM, Dan Ritter  wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 05, 2018 at 04:50:20PM +0300, Gokan Atmaca wrote:
>> Hello
>>
>> I want to create a hotspot system on Debian.
>> Can you help me with this?
>
> You need hostapd and a compatible wifi adapter.
>
> apt-get install hostapd
>
> and then decide whether you're offering a bridged
> or routed connection.
>
> -dsr-

Re: Does bash have a tool ?

[John Hasler]

I wrote:
> The Model 19 was more fun.

Richard Owlett writes:
> Don't recognize the model.

And here I thought you went way back.  The Model 19 did 5-level baudot.
We used them for amateur radio teletype in the 60s.  The machine had
some real heft to it.  It was driven by a 1/4 hp motor.  Lots of
rotating parts and a heavy cast-iron carriage the jumped up and down
when the machine shifted.
-- 
John Hasler 
jhas...@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA

Re: WTF does Firefox 58?

[deloptes]

rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:

> I think that is the gentleman's name, but not rendered properly--for
> example, maybe his name (when he sent the post) contained UTF-8 characters
> (or some other encoding, appropriate to his locale), and your computer
> (or, at least, your email client), is not able (or set) to properly handle
> / render those.

perhaps you check your client - here it is clearly readable.

Re: hotspot

[Dan Ritter]

On Mon, Mar 05, 2018 at 04:50:20PM +0300, Gokan Atmaca wrote:
> Hello
> 
> I want to create a hotspot system on Debian.
> Can you help me with this?

You need hostapd and a compatible wifi adapter.

apt-get install hostapd

and then decide whether you're offering a bridged
or routed connection.

-dsr-

Re: WTF does Firefox 58?

[deloptes]

Michelle Konzack wrote:

>> now seriously I think it is HTML5 feature
> 
> This is what I suspect, because when I used the "mediaplayer43.swf"
> anything went fine.

In fact the web page may be developed the wrong way. However the browser
should not preload all videos either.

regards

hotspot

[Gokan Atmaca]

Hello

I want to create a hotspot system on Debian.
Can you help me with this?

Thanks...

Re: Multichannel audio listening (was: Live recording)

[rhkramer]

On Monday, March 05, 2018 05:49:45 AM Jeremy Nicoll wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Mar 2018, at 09:39, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> Does your computer, or attached soundcard(s) have capacity to
> drive three outputs at once?
> 
> If it does I think you'll need to tell whatever software controls that
> hardware where to take audio-data from.
> 
> Maybe 'sox' can direct audio to multiple channels, but I think you
> will need to tell sox which hardware devices to use.  The section
> of the sox manual, page 3, "Playing & Recording Audio" might help.

Without having ever (intentionally) used jack (JACK (Jack Audio Connection 
Kit)), I would guess that it might be useful.

(Like Jeremy says, you will need 3 output devices.)  Somewhere along the line 
I bought some audio devices (my choice of words) that are, afaik, like a sound 
card built into a very small (USB) plug like device.  I can plug it into a USB 
and then plug stereo headphones into it--the device functions like a sound 
card, self powered from the USB port.

I bought those, as I often do such things, off ebay from the far East.

I suppose you might do a hinky workaround to get two output devices from one 
(stereo) sound card by (possibly after merging stereo signals into a mono 
signal) sending a different (mono) signal to each channel (i.e., left and 
right) of a stereo sound card, at least for a sort of feasibility test.

Do they make 5.2 or 7.2 sound cards for computers--if so, you could consider a 
similar approach using those 5 (or 7) channels.

Re: base-files en version plus élevée sur stretch que stretch-updates

[Ph. Gras]

Hello!

> Le 05/03/18 à 12:04, "Ph. Gras"  a écrit :
> PG> Salut !
> PG> 
> PG> > https://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names=base-files
> PG> > montre un update en version antérieure à l'original, c'est bizarre
> PG> > non ?
> PG> > 
> PG> > Avec les préférences apt par défaut, les deux ont la même priorité,
> PG> > donc c'est pas un drame, mais je trouve ça louche…  
> PG> 
> PG> Lequel des 2 paquets préfèrerais-tu pour ta machine et pourquoi ?
> 
> À priori le dernier, car je fais confiance aux mainteneurs pour me dire
> qu'ils avaient une bonne raison de sortir une nouvelle version, et je laisse
> faire mon gestionnaire de paquets pour l'obtenir ;-)

C'est une bonne pratique, en effet :-)

> 
> C'est juste que je trouve bizarre qu'un paquet 9.9+deb9u2 soit classé
> comme un update de 9.9+deb9u3, je suppose que c'est une erreur dans la mise
> à jour de stretch-updates…

C'est bizarre effectivement, mais il peut y avoir au moins 2 raisons à cela :
1). La version stretch-updates (deb9u2) peut être plus ancienne que la 
version stretch
(deb9u3).
2). Des paquets couramment utilisés n'existent pas (ou plus) dans la 
version deb9u2 :
https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=roundcube

3). D'autres raisons ou possibilités ?

Ph. Gras
Plus une discussion sur une liste dure longtemps, plus la probabilité d'y 
trouver une
comparaison impliquant les nazis ou Hitler s'approche de 1. Je veux donc 
m'arrêter
là, soit juste avant d'atteindre cette limite et d'emporter le point Godwin.

Re: WTF does Firefox 58?

[rhkramer]

On Monday, March 05, 2018 02:54:59 AM Michelle Konzack wrote:
> Hello Виталий Воронов,
> 
>  (whatever this mean)

I think that is the gentleman's name, but not rendered properly--for example, 
maybe his name (when he sent the post) contained UTF-8 characters (or some 
other encoding, appropriate to his locale), and your computer (or, at least, 
your email client), is not able (or set) to properly handle / render those.
 
> Am 2018-03-04 hackte Виталий Воронов in die Tasten:
> > One of the dumbest features modern browsers have integrated for some
> > reason.

Re: NUC7i3DNKE + écrans qui clignotent

[JF Straeten]

Salut,


On Mon, Mar 05, 2018 at 09:59:13AM +0100, fab wrote:

> Tu peux essayer ta CG sur un autre poste avec 1 autre écran puis un
> second pour vérifier si c'est la carte mère qui déconne ou si c'est
> la carte graphique ?

Tout est intégré, c'est un NUC :

https://www.centralpoint.be/fr/barebones-pc-poste-de-travail/intel/nuc7i3dnke-art-blknuc7i3dnk2e-num-6960343/

Si truc déconne, tout déconne à mon humble avis...

Merci quand même,


-- 

JFS.

Re: NUC7i3DNKE + écrans qui clignotent

[JF Straeten]

Re,


On Mon, Mar 05, 2018 at 09:27:11AM +0100, err...@free.fr wrote:

[...]
> Je te conseille de tester les écrans sur d'autres machines.

Ça, ça marche : ils fonctionnent parfaitement sur un autre client
léger, tous les deux, seuls ou ensemble...

> Ou de tester avec d'autres cables.

Oui, je vais essayer...

 
> Si tu peux tester d'autres écrans sur ce NUC, c'est bien aussi.

Ça aussi...

 
> Est ce que le phénomène de clignotement persiste si tu utilise une
> résolution plus faible?

Ça aussi...


> Et si tu n'utilise qu'un seul écran?

Pareil, c'était dans le message : seuls ou à deux, même combat ;)

Merci pour le retour,


-- 

JFS.

Re: NUC7i3DNKE + écrans qui clignotent

[JF Straeten]

Re,


On Mon, Mar 05, 2018 at 08:49:30AM +0100, Yann Serre wrote:

> - la connectique (cas le plus souvent rencontré - tenter d'essuyer
> les broches ?)

Je vais essayer de changer de câble pour voir, en effet...


> - la bande passante des câbles (un câble de mauvaise qualité ou bien
> qui touche un transformateur d'alimentation qui génère des
> perturbations électro-magnétiques et le câble n'est plus capable de
> transmettre 100% du signal)

En principe, elle est bonne : l'HDMI 2.0 monte jusqu'à 4K et ça sort
en DVI-D Dual Link, nécessaire pour afficher la résolution native des
écrans de 2560x1600.

Maintenant, évidemment, la qualité des câbles, on n'en sait rien...

Voilà les câbles, identiques et neufs :

https://www.centralpoint.be/fr/c-bles-video-et-adaptateurs/manhattan/hdmi-cable-1x-hdmi-male-1x-dvi-d-24-plus-1-male-dual-link-black-1-8m-art-372503-num-5695993/


> - la carte graphique est-elle correctement ventilée ?

Elle est intégrée au CPU, c'est de l'Intel.


> si ce n'est pas une ventilation mécanique, la ventilation passive
> a-t-elle un flux d'air suffisant ?

Il y a un ventilo mécanique dans le NUC. On l'entend à fond au cold
boot et il se calme ensuite...


> (une sécurité pourrait couper brièvement l'étage de puissance de la
> carte graphique à une température maximale)

Tout est possible... Je cherche ;-)

 
> Autre problème matériel :
> - un vieux moniteur peut avoir une alimentation dont un composant a besoin
> de se stabiliser au démarrage (montée en température), avant de provoquer
> une panne d'alimentation complète dans les semaines suivantes.

Les moniteurs datent de 2011 et 2012, certes, mais ce sont des DELL
qui coûtaient un bras, et dont j'espère donc quand même que
l'électronique est potable :-) En outre, ils fonctionnent parfaitement
sur une autre machine, chacun seul ou les deux ensemble...

Merci pour le retour en tout cas,


-- 

JFS.

Re: NUC7i3DNKE + écrans qui clignotent

[JF Straeten]

Hello,


On Mon, Mar 05, 2018 at 07:46:09AM +0100, Hugues MORIN wrote:

[...]
> Il faudrai controler le materiel car ca ressemble a un probleme
> electronique (alimentation, carte video ou meme carte mere) plus que
> logiciel
> 
> C est le genre de panne galere a resoudre

En effet, mais sans exclure un souci matériel, j'inclinais plus pour
un problème logiciel...

Le matos est intégralement neuf : barebone NUC, RAM et câbles sortis
des boîtes et sachets avant les tests. Les écrans ne sont pas neufs,
mais je suis certain qu'ils fonctionnent parfaitement, tous les deux,
sur le client léger que le NUC est appelé à remplacer.

Par contre, pour ce qui est logiciel, sans charger le microcode Intel
au démarrage de la machine, ça fait clairement sapin de Noël quels que
soient la distri et le kernel utilisés. Ensuite, avec microcode, ça
s'améliore jusqu'à donner les moins mauvais résultats avec le 4.14 de
buster.

Enfin, je me dis aussi qu'un souci matériel se produirait tout le
temps, indépendamment de l'affichage, non ? Or, avec un xscreensaver
actif, ça ne le fait jamais, et avec un film jamais non plus si la
fenêtre a le focus (je l'ai surpris une fois à s'éteindre brièvement
si elle ne l'a pas).

Merci pour retour en tout cas,

-- 

JFS.

Re: base-files en version plus élevée sur stretch que stretch-updates

[Daniel Caillibaud]

Le 05/03/18 à 12:04, "Ph. Gras"  a écrit :
PG> Salut !
PG> 
PG> > https://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names=base-files
PG> > montre un update en version antérieure à l'original, c'est bizarre
PG> > non ?
PG> > 
PG> > Avec les préférences apt par défaut, les deux ont la même priorité,
PG> > donc c'est pas un drame, mais je trouve ça louche…  
PG> 
PG> Lequel des 2 paquets préfèrerais-tu pour ta machine et pourquoi ?

À priori le dernier, car je fais confiance aux mainteneurs pour me dire
qu'ils avaient une bonne raison de sortir une nouvelle version, et je laisse
faire mon gestionnaire de paquets pour l'obtenir ;-)

C'est juste que je trouve bizarre qu'un paquet 9.9+deb9u2 soit classé
comme un update de 9.9+deb9u3, je suppose que c'est une erreur dans la mise
à jour de stretch-updates…

-- 
Daniel

Quand j'écoute trop Wagner, j'ai envie d'envahir la Pologne.
Woody Allen

Re: base-files en version plus élevée sur stretch que stretch-updates

[Ph. Gras]

Salut !

> https://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names=base-files
> montre un update en version antérieure à l'original, c'est bizarre non ?
> 
> Avec les préférences apt par défaut, les deux ont la même priorité, donc
> c'est pas un drame, mais je trouve ça louche…

Lequel des 2 paquets préfèrerais-tu pour ta machine et pourquoi ?

Merci d'avance,

Ph. Gras

Y'a que Sun Tsu qui ait apporté un peu d'intelligence dans lard de la guerre

Re: Multichannel audio listening (was: Live recording)

[Jeremy Nicoll]

On Mon, 5 Mar 2018, at 09:39, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> Hi all.
> 
> After learning, some months ago, thanks to listers' help, how to live record
> into a multi channel audio file, I was wondering about the reverse problem: 
> now
> I have my multi channel audio file, e.g. composed by three different channels.
> Is it possibile (I guess it is), and how?, to send each of the three outputs
> into a different loud speaker and so listen to the song...?

Does your computer, or attached soundcard(s) have capacity to
drive three outputs at once?

If it does I think you'll need to tell whatever software controls that
hardware where to take audio-data from.  

Maybe 'sox' can direct audio to multiple channels, but I think you
will need to tell sox which hardware devices to use.  The section
of the sox manual, page 3, "Playing & Recording Audio" might help.

-- 
Jeremy Nicoll - my opinions are my own.

Re: Besoin d'aide pour interpréter erreur smartmontool

[Daysfled]

Le 04/03/18 à 19:48, Etienne Vogt a écrit :

> C'est une erreur de somme de contrôle sur le bus SATA, donc une erreur
> dans le transfert de données entre le disque et le contrôleur.
> Si cela se reproduit, essayer de changer le cable SATA, mais à priori le
> disque lui-même semble en bonne santé.
> 

Merci cela me rassure. Je surveille cela.

-- 
Days Fled

Re: Does bash have a tool ?

[Richard Owlett]

On 03/04/2018 11:27 AM, Curt wrote:

On 2018-03-04, Richard Owlett  wrote:

My eventual goal is to create a personalized FAQ.
To that end I've collected all my outgoing mail which DOES NOT have
"Re:" in the Subject into a single file {used standard SeaMonkey tools}.

Using a text editor's search function I've placed "KEY1" at the
beginning of the body of each message. Similarly, I've placed "KEY2" at
the end of each body.

Searches led to  which
describes tools to do word frequency tasks, primarily with bash builtins.

First I need to eliminate the irrelevant text between "KEY2" of the
previous message and "KEY1" of the message of interest. It should be
straight forard to do in BASIC.


vim (hit escape to get into command mode)

:/KEY2/+1;/KEY1/-1d

will delete everything between KEY2 and KEY1, excluding the
matching lines.


Haven't looked up the syntax you referenced. HOWEVER, an initial browse 
of vim.org immediately led to a half dozen pages of interest which an 
additional half dozen (at least) things that are inherent in vim that I 
had not mentioned. As today should be chilly and damp, I suspect where I 
will be warm, dry, and becoming educated.


Thank you.



I think. Well, I just gave it a trivial workout and it worked (for a
trivial case).


In many ways, my needs are "trivial" ;}
Once again, "Merci beaucoup."




But is there an already tested function for that?
TIA

nouveau 0000:00:0d.0: bus: MMIO write of 00000000 FAULT at 00b010

[rv riveravaldez]

Hi, I'm having this since installation (debian testing, starting with
netinstall and then adding packages as needed, always following
Debian's wiki instructions):

$ sudo dmesg | grep nouveau
[8.473315] nouveau :00:0d.0: NVIDIA C61 (04c000a2)
[8.483404] nouveau :00:0d.0: bios: version 05.61.32.29.00
[8.485671] nouveau :00:0d.0: fb: 256 MiB of unknown memory type
[8.537195] nouveau :00:0d.0: DRM: VRAM: 253 MiB
[8.537197] nouveau :00:0d.0: DRM: GART: 512 MiB
[8.537201] nouveau :00:0d.0: DRM: TMDS table version 1.1
[8.537203] nouveau :00:0d.0: DRM: DCB version 3.0
[8.537205] nouveau :00:0d.0: DRM: DCB outp 00: 01000310 0023
[8.537208] nouveau :00:0d.0: DRM: DCB outp 01: 00110204 942b0003
[8.537209] nouveau :00:0d.0: DRM: DCB conn 00: 
[8.537211] nouveau :00:0d.0: DRM: DCB conn 01: 1131
[8.537212] nouveau :00:0d.0: DRM: DCB conn 02: 0110
[8.537214] nouveau :00:0d.0: DRM: DCB conn 03: 0111
[8.537215] nouveau :00:0d.0: DRM: DCB conn 04: 0113
[8.537442] nouveau :00:0d.0: DRM: Saving VGA fonts
[8.574842] nouveau :00:0d.0: DRM: DCB type 4 not known
[8.574845] nouveau :00:0d.0: DRM: Unknown-1 has no encoders, removing
[8.578182] nouveau :00:0d.0: DRM: MM: using M2MF for buffer copies
[8.607208] nouveau :00:0d.0: DRM: allocated 1600x900 fb:
0x9000, bo 9a65e8445800
[8.635581] fbcon: nouveaufb (fb0) is primary device
[8.719776] nouveau :00:0d.0: fb0: nouveaufb frame buffer device
[8.736051] [drm] Initialized nouveau 1.3.1 20120801 for
:00:0d.0 on minor 0
[   13.267094] nouveau :00:0d.0: bus: MMIO write of 005c0001 FAULT at 00b000
[  584.383372] nouveau :00:0d.0: bus: MMIO write of 01260001 FAULT at 00b010
[  584.619503] nouveau :00:0d.0: bus: MMIO write of  FAULT at 00b010
[  589.034904] nouveau :00:0d.0: bus: MMIO write of 01260001 FAULT at 00b010
[  589.421639] nouveau :00:0d.0: bus: MMIO write of  FAULT at 00b010
[ 3590.415718] nouveau :00:0d.0: bus: MMIO write of 01260001 FAULT at 00b010
[ 3590.431203] nouveau :00:0d.0: bus: MMIO write of  FAULT at 00b010
[ 3593.882318] nouveau :00:0d.0: bus: MMIO write of 01260001 FAULT at 00b010
[ 3593.931143] nouveau :00:0d.0: bus: MMIO write of  FAULT at 00b010
[ 9318.785421] Web Content[1617]: segfault at 0 ip 7f0d80636495 sp
7ffc92e2cd50 error 4 in nouveau_dri.so[7f0d8011f000+a67000]
[16282.542768] nouveau :00:0d.0: bus: MMIO write of 01260001 FAULT at 00b010
[16282.615123] nouveau :00:0d.0: bus: MMIO write of  FAULT at 00b010
[16283.919260] nouveau :00:0d.0: bus: MMIO write of 01260001 FAULT at 00b010
[16283.923714] nouveau :00:0d.0: bus: MMIO write of  FAULT at 00b010
[20458.877151] nouveau :00:0d.0: bus: MMIO write of 01260001 FAULT at 00b010
[20458.934833] nouveau :00:0d.0: bus: MMIO write of  FAULT at 00b010
[20459.961755] nouveau :00:0d.0: bus: MMIO write of 01260001 FAULT at 00b010
[20460.044138] nouveau :00:0d.0: bus: MMIO write of  FAULT at 00b010
[32456.741962] nouveau :00:0d.0: bus: MMIO write of 01260001 FAULT at 00b010
[32456.816964] nouveau :00:0d.0: bus: MMIO write of  FAULT at 00b010
[32460.617876] nouveau :00:0d.0: bus: MMIO write of 01260001 FAULT at 00b010
[32460.796510] nouveau :00:0d.0: bus: MMIO write of  FAULT at 00b010
[51558.583459] nouveau :00:0d.0: bus: MMIO write of 01260001 FAULT at 00b010
[51558.586426] nouveau :00:0d.0: bus: MMIO write of 01260001 FAULT at 00b010
[52145.814171] nouveau :00:0d.0: bus: MMIO write of  FAULT at 00b010
[141992.651963] nouveau :00:0d.0: bus: MMIO write of 01260001
FAULT at 00b010
[141993.033732] nouveau :00:0d.0: bus: MMIO write of 
FAULT at 00b010
[141995.115644] nouveau :00:0d.0: bus: MMIO write of 01260001
FAULT at 00b010
[141995.604589] nouveau :00:0d.0: bus: MMIO write of 
FAULT at 00b010
[147834.437544] nouveau :00:0d.0: bus: MMIO write of 01270001
FAULT at 00b010
[147834.438988] nouveau :00:0d.0: bus: MMIO write of 01270001
FAULT at 00b010
[148119.785743] nouveau :00:0d.0: bus: MMIO write of 
FAULT at 00b010
[167468.029837] nouveau :00:0d.0: bus: MMIO write of 01270001
FAULT at 00b010
[167468.103806] nouveau :00:0d.0: bus: MMIO write of 
FAULT at 00b010
[167469.644289] nouveau :00:0d.0: bus: MMIO write of 01270001
FAULT at 00b010
[167469.759108] nouveau :00:0d.0: bus: MMIO write of 
FAULT at 00b010

Randomly the system hangs/freezes and doesn't respond even to REISUB,
so, hard/manual reboot is necessary.

This is the hardware:

$ lspci
00:00.0 RAM memory: NVIDIA Corporation MCP61 Host Bridge (rev a1)
00:01.0 ISA bridge: NVIDIA Corporation MCP61 LPC Bridge (rev a2)
00:01.1 SMBus: NVIDIA Corporation MCP61 SMBus (rev a2)
00:01.2 RAM memory: NVIDIA Corporation 

base-files en version plus élevée sur stretch que stretch-updates

[Daniel Caillibaud]

Bonjour,

https://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names=base-files
montre un update en version antérieure à l'original, c'est bizarre non ?

Avec les préférences apt par défaut, les deux ont la même priorité, donc
c'est pas un drame, mais je trouve ça louche…

-- 
Daniel

Les avions sont des jouets sans aucune valeur militaire.
Maréchal Foch (1911)

Re: Does bash have a tool ?

[Erik Christiansen]

On 05.03.18 03:06, Richard Owlett wrote:
> 
> As to "manpages not a tutorial"   *ROFL*
> I'll admit content is there, but ...  
> I've been referred to vim. Although awk and cousins are probably under the
> surface, vim.org is fascinating and accessible to end users such as myself.

A good text editor (and it's hard to be as good as Vim) will reduce the
workload of repeated edits which are not consistent enough to be easily
automated with Sed or Awk.

It's amazing how much can be done by repeating the last search with 'n',
then deciding whether to hit '.' to repeat the last edit (e.g. a
change-word or delete-to some pattern)

There's also the ability to put any sequence of actions onto a key.
If you arc up vim and type ":help q", the on-line help will describe how
to start keystroke recording with "qx", where x is the key you'll use to
re-run the macro, via "@x". Although both search and action can be
packed into the macro, it's usually better to repeat the search (for
next edit target) with 'n', so you get to see the "before", then hit @x
to run the macro, then eye the results before repeating.

Vim is modal editor, with a normal mode and a couple of editing modes.
Thinking you're in insert mode while in normal mode, can in a few
keystrokes wreak random havoc, requiring a stab at Escape then a few
stabs at 'u', the undo button, to restore order. (If too many undos,
then ^r is redo.) To reduce the need to rely on memory, a line with

set showmode

in ~/.vimrc will display the current mode in bold text. (Blank for
normal mode) If you also add these lines:

" Cursor Appearance and behaviour:   !!!
" (Insert_Mode == Green, Normal_Mode == Red)
if  =~ "xterm"
   let _SI = "\]12;green\x7"
   let _EI = "\]12;red\x7"
endif

the cursor will also serve as a reminder, so you don't need to glance to
the bottom of the screen.

What serves best varies not only with the task and the tweaks you've
made to the tools, but what techniques you have absorbed on the
text-whacking journey.

Erik

Multichannel audio listening (was: Live recording)

[Rodolfo Medina]

Hi all.

After learning, some months ago, thanks to listers' help, how to live record
into a multi channel audio file, I was wondering about the reverse problem: now
I have my multi channel audio file, e.g. composed by three different channels.
Is it possibile (I guess it is), and how?, to send each of the three outputs
into a different loud speaker and so listen to the song...?

I hope I was clear enough...

Thanks for any help.

Rodolfo

Re: Does bash have a tool ?

[Richard Owlett]

On 03/04/2018 09:28 PM, John Hasler wrote:

Richard Owlett writes:

Do youngsters here recognize they are being teased?
a KSR-35 wrote/read paper tape
a 026 punched Hollerith(sp?) cards
We'll leave to their anemic imagination what "high speed paper tape" might
be! *ROFL*


You're describing an ASR (Automatic Send Receive) teleprinter.  KSR
means Keyboard Send Receive: no tape.


You may be correct. It has been the the better part of a half-century. I 
recall two almost identical 20mA devices adjacent to PDP11's, 
with/without paper tape readers on the side.


The Model 19 was more fun.


Don't recognize the model.

Re: Does bash have a tool ?

[Richard Owlett]

On 03/04/2018 11:40 PM, Erik Christiansen wrote:

On 04.03.18 10:28, Richard Owlett wrote:


I don't have any background in Perl and the last formal course in
programming was in the 60's.

However awk and/or sed may be what I'm looking for and are well documented.
Your description of nedit is interesting. I'll investigate. I'm on my way
out at the moment.


Awk and Sed were created in the unix big bang, and might indeed be just
be your speed. (Some enhancements have been added to Awk since, such as
co-processes, but the current use case won't need that.)

It seems you're onto some doco, but this is hard to beat:
The Addison Wesley "The AWK programming Language" is a slender concise
exposition of the tool's use and capabilities, written by Awk's authors,
Aho, Weinberger, and Kernighan. The permuted index greatly eases finding
stuff in it.

This is a quick start: www.gnu.org/software/gawk/manual/gawk.html
Like the Addison Wesley dead-tree book, its "Sample Programs" shows that
Awk has a C-like syntax, supercharged with posix regexes, associative
arrays, etc.

A quick intro to regular expressions can be found in:
$ man regex
(Awk defaults to the more compact and easily read EREs, rather than
obsolete BREs.)

The awk manpage is a good reference, but as with all manpages, not a
tutorial.

Over the last three decades or more, I've found that Awk and shell have
more than adequately handled all my text munging requirements, right up
to a C-code generator taking structured English input to create
heterogenous communities of interacting state machines.

Erik


As to "manpages not a tutorial"   *ROFL*
I'll admit content is there, but ...  
I've been referred to vim. Although awk and cousins are probably under 
the surface, vim.org is fascinating and accessible to end users such as 
myself.

`libjack-jackd2-0:amd64' provee `libjack-0.125' pero va a ser desinstalado (debian testing)

[rv riveravaldez]

Qué tal, ¿alguna idea de a qué se debe esto? (En Debian Testing.)

$ sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
...
Desempaquetando jackd2-firewire (1.9.12~dfsg-2) sobre
(1.9.10+20150825git1ed50c92~dfsg-5) ...
dpkg: libjack-jackd2-0:amd64: problemas de dependencias, pero se
desinstalará de todas formas
 tal y como se solicitó:
 mplayer depende de libjack-jackd2-0 (>= 1.9.10+20150825) |
libjack-0.125; sin embargo:
  El paquete `libjack-jackd2-0:amd64' va a ser desinstalado.
  El paquete `libjack-0.125' no está instalado.
  El paquete `libjack-jackd2-0:amd64' provee `libjack-0.125' pero va a
ser desinstalado.
 libmlt6 depende de libjack-jackd2-0 (>= 1.9.10+20150825) |
libjack-0.125; sin embargo:
  El paquete `libjack-jackd2-0:amd64' va a ser desinstalado.
  El paquete `libjack-0.125' no está instalado.
  El paquete `libjack-jackd2-0:amd64' provee `libjack-0.125' pero va a
ser desinstalado.
...

Y repite lo mismo con algunas decenas de paquetes más (todos
vinculados al audio), incluso repitiendo paquetes.

Por ejemplo:

hydrogen depende de libjack-jackd2-0 (>= 1.9.10+20150825) |
libjack-0.125; sin embargo:
  El paquete `libjack-jackd2-0:amd64' va a ser desinstalado.
  El paquete `libjack-0.125' no está instalado.
  El paquete `libjack-jackd2-0:amd64' provee `libjack-0.125' pero va a
ser desinstalado.

Aparece 2 veces. Y así con muchos otros.

De momento no he encontrado problemas con el audio, pero por ejemplo
alsamixer ahora muestra 4 controladores de volumen por default en
lugar de 1.

Por si acaso:

$ dpkg -l *jack*
Deseado=desconocido(U)/Instalar/eliminaR/Purgar/retener(H)
| 
Estado=No/Inst/ficheros-Conf/desempaqUetado/medio-conF/medio-inst(H)/espera-disparo(W)/pendienTe-disparo
|/ Err?=(ninguno)/requiere-Reinst (Estado,Err: mayúsc.=malo)
||/ Nombre Versión  Arquitectura Descripción
+++-==---=
un  jack-daemon(no hay ninguna descripción dispo
iijack-keyboard  2.7.1-1+b1   amd64Virtual MIDI keyboard for JACK MI
un  jack-tools (no hay ninguna descripción dispo
iijackd  5all  JACK Audio Connection Kit (defaul
un  jackd-firewire (no hay ninguna descripción dispo
un  jackd1 (no hay ninguna descripción dispo
iijackd2 1.9.12~dfsg- amd64JACK Audio Connection Kit (server
iijackd2-firewir 1.9.12~dfsg- amd64JACK Audio Connection Kit (FFADO
un  libjack-0.116  (no hay ninguna descripción dispo
un  libjack-0.125  (no hay ninguna descripción dispo
iilibjack-jackd2 1.9.12~dfsg- amd64JACK Audio Connection Kit (librar
un  libjack0   (no hay ninguna descripción dispo
iiqjackctl   0.5.0-1  amd64User interface for controlling th


Saludos y gracias, desde ya, !

Re: NUC7i3DNKE + écrans qui clignotent

[fab]

'lut,

Tu peux essayer ta CG sur un autre poste avec 1 autre écran puis un 
second pour vérifier si c'est la carte mère qui déconne ou si c'est la 
carte graphique ?


f.


Le 04/03/2018 à 22:03, JF Straeten a écrit :


Chère Liste,


Je me permets de vous soumettre le problème que je rencontre sur une
nouvelle machine, après avoir essayé une série de choses qui ne le
résolvent pas, en espérant que quelqu'un aurait une expérience utile
en la matière, ou déjà une idée ou deux :-)

La machine est un NUC Intel, modèle NUC7i3DNKE.

Son processeur est un Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-7100U CPU @ 2.40GHz

Sa carte graphique, selon lspci : Intel Corporation HD Graphics 620 (rev 02)

Elle a 4GB de RAM de marque 2-Power dans le slot inférieur et est
couplée à deux écrans DELL U3011 par des câbles HDMI to DVI-D Dual
Link (ce barebone n'a que deux connecteurs HDMI 2.0). Ça fait donc 2x
2560x1600 en résolution (et il peut aller jusqu'à 2x 4k, @60 Hz).

Enfin, elle est utilisée comme client léger sous LTSP, bootant sur un
serveur LTSP en NFS, mais l'aspect LTSP est indifférent.

Question OS, a priori tout est du stretch pur jus, à jour (donc tant
le serveur LTSP que l'OS utilisé par le client léger, c.-à-d. ici le
NUC).


Le souci rencontré est que les écrans clignotent de temps en temps :
ils s'éteignent (l'un ou l'autre ou les deux) une à deux secondes,
voire parfois 4-5, et puis se rallument...

Jusqu'ici, j'ai lancé le NUC sous stretch 32bits et amd64, sans et
puis avec le microcode Intel (avec, ça améliore sensiblement les
choses, bien que ça ne soit pas encore parfait), pour finir enfin en
buster, avec le noyau 4.14.

Toujours avec le microcode, les résultats varient en fonction de la
version du noyau : avec le 4.9 de stretch, c'est inutilisable
tellement ça clignote. C'est un poil mieux avec le 4.14 des backports,
toujours en stretch et ça devient utilisable, mais encore gênant avec
le 4.14 de buster.

Pour voir, j'ai booté aussi, toujours sous buster, avec le noyau
4.15.7 de sid, mais là c'est catastrophique (et pour cause : le noyau
désactive une partie du microcode Intel en signalant qu'il ne résout
pas Spectre (j'ai oublié les termes exacts, mais le microcode est
pourtant la dernière version de chez Intel : 20171117).

Enfin, à part en 4.15.7, j'ai chaque fois essayé avec les pilotes
graphiques modesetting et Intel. On ne peut toutefois pas dire que ça
fait une différence notable de comportement, et comme modesetting est
recommandé et semble (mais c'est subjectif) un poil plus rapide à
l'affichage, je tourne avec ce pilote, sous buster pour le moment.

Enfin encore, je viens aussi d'upgrader le bios du NUC à la dernière
version (039) du 22/02/2018.

Mais même si ça n'a plus rien à voir avec les débuts sous stretch, les
clignotements persistent quand même encore, sur l'un ou l'autre des
écrans, au point que j'hésite à laisser ça comme poste de travail en
l'état...

Inverser les écrans ne change rien ; un à la fois ou deux, c'est tout
à fait pareil ; les connecteurs sont bien vissés aux écrans, etc.

Rien n'y fait : c'est totalement erratique. L'un ou l'autre s'éteint
puis se rallume, jusqu'à parfois 10x sur quelques minutes, et puis
plus rien pendant un moment, etc.

Les seuls constats qui semblent pouvoir être posés sont :

- que le phénomène ne semble jamais se produire quand l'écran change
   en permanence : en lançant xscreensaver ou un film, je ne l'ai
   jamais surpris à s'éteindre de manière inexpliquée. C'est quand
   l'image est fixe, mais qu'on tape du texte ou non, ça le fait ;

- que l'écran qui n'a pas le focus *semble* s'exciter davantage que
   celui qui contient la fenêtre où je tape ceci, mais c'est difficile
   d'en être sûr...

Voilà le phénomène bizarre. Si quelqu'un a une expérience utile à
partager ou ne fut-ce qu'une idée de piste à explorer, je suis
preneur :-)

Je vous remercie d'avance, en tout cas de m'avoir lu.

A+

Re: NUC7i3DNKE + écrans qui clignotent

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Bonjour JF Straeten (Jean-François?)


Je te conseille de tester les écrans sur d'autres machines.
Ou de tester avec d'autres cables.

Si tu peux tester d'autres écrans sur ce NUC, c'est bien aussi.

Est ce que le phénomène de clignotement persiste si tu utilise une résolution 
plus faible?
Et si tu n'utilise qu'un seul écran?


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