Report Bug
Dear friend, Hello, I have a bug here that needs to be reported. It has been present in multiple versions and still exists in Debian 12. The issue is related to the desktop version's Wi-Fi icon and driver. While I can use Wi-Fi to connect to the internet, I would like to have a more intuitive icon and a toggle button, similar to what Ubuntu offers. I hope the community experts can provide support or a viable solution as soon as possible. Wishing you a wonderful day. Kevin
Re: Network routing on multi-homed system
I changed the gateway lines to include the whole network, so, i.e., post-up ip route add 172.1.1.62/32 dev eth1 src 172.1.1.41 table external became post-up ip route add 172.1.1.32/27 dev eth1 src 172.1.1.41 table external and everything starting working great. Thanks! :) -- Isaac Freeman - Systems Administrator IBM SmartCloud Managed Backup is...@us.ibm.com 919-254-0245 From: Pascal Hambourg To: debian-user@lists.debian.org, Cc: Isaac Freeman/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS Date: 08/02/2014 02:45 PM Subject:Re: Network routing on multi-homed system Hello, Isaac Freeman a écrit : > > iface eth1 inet static >address 172.1.1.40 >netmask 255.255.255.224 > ># routing >post-up ip route add 172.1.1.62/32 dev eth1 src 172.1.1.40 table external >post-up ip route add default via 172.1.1.62 table external >post-up ip rule add from 172.1.1.40 table external >post-down ip rule del from 172.1.1.40 table external IMO, your special routing is broken. Not all packets with the given source address should be sent to the gateway, but only packets with a destination address outside the LAN. Packets with a destination address inside the LAN should be sent directly. Either route the LAN prefix using the main table : post-up ip rule add to 172.1.1.32/27 table main (to be created after thus inserted before the "from" rule) or add a direct route for the prefix in the special table : post-up ip route add 172.1.1.32/27 dev eth1 table external Same for both interfaces and servers. Note : the routes to the gateways should not be necessary.
Network routing on multi-homed system
5.255.255.224 # routing post-up ip route add 172.1.1.62/32 dev eth1 src 172.1.1.41 table external post-up ip route add default via 172.1.1.62 table external post-up ip rule add from 172.1.1.41 table external post-down ip rule del from 172.1.1.41 table external -- Isaac Freeman - Systems Administrator IBM SmartCloud Managed Backup is...@us.ibm.com 919-254-0245
Re: Web browser gets slow and blocks the system
On Sun, 27 May 2012 17:29:53 + Rodolfo Medina wrote: > Camaleón writes: > > > On Sun, 27 May 2012 10:28:27 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > > Err... would be of much help if you say what browser is and what > > Debian release :-). Also, does it happen with a different browser? > > > It is Mozilla, Debian Lenny. I haven't tried with a different > browser, I don't know any other. The problem is serious, so please > help if you can! Thanks - rodolfo > > If is supports a restart add-on, install it and try restarting before it gets to slow. -- Regards, Freeman -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120527131108.2b3e96a7@Deneb.office
Re: how to practice.
On Fri, 18 May 2012 17:18:20 +0500 Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: > Ok I have been working in IT network field since 7 years and just one > and half year back i have started exploring Linux and I believe, > someone said to me lately that if you start loving black and white > terminal then you will never look back to Windows GUI. I literally > can experience this thing at the stage I am standing with Linux. As I > consider myself a newbie in Linux but according to my previous > experience if i don’t practice I will forget things very easy (as > there are tons of commands to remember which I will forget with less > or 0 practice). so i am here to ask all the old Pros that how you > guys manage to remember all the commands and practice all the > previous work. Since after the deployment of some Linux services > there is only the log which i have to see for further errors. So how > it is possible to keep in my mind all the old stuff and along with > that I can move forward with the new goals. > Some good ideas in this thread. I too have a search-able directory of notes. Forgot about the flash cards; so, reading this list helps refresh memory. I like to use dwww, which does a good job of searching a term in all installed docs and manuals, of which I install many. -- Regards, Freeman -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120520165548.1d44a6f1@Deneb.office
Re: Suggestion: Please change rights of cpufreq-set by default
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 08:36:58PM +0100, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: > Dear list, > please let me describe a little problem. > > As powerdevil changed last year, I found no way, to force the cpu to stay at > lowest clock, even when a process wants full speed. > > My solution at the moment is, to use cpufreq-set, where I can set the cpu to > lowest frequency. > > But there is a problem: I can do this only as user root! > > A solution is, to change the rights of the binary of cpufreq-set to i.e. > group > "powerdevil" and sticky bit to user "root". So anyone in the group > "powerdevil" (and of course the application powerdevil, too), will be able to > change the cpu clock. > > As powerdevil is able to execute a script, I can use a script in the > profiles, > either to set the clock to min or in another profile to max. > > But changing the default rights IMO is no good way, except the maintainers > decide so, too. > > Any other suggestions? > Put your user in the powerdev group. (I think I did this many years back and it works for me.) Set up sudo for your user with cpufreq-set in the sudoers file. -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120115212033.GA3449@Deneb.office
Re: Xfce steals keyboard shortcuts?
On Mon, Jan 09, 2012 at 07:56:55AM -0500, Gilbert Sullivan wrote: > On 01/08/2012 07:54 PM, Freeman wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 04:13:37PM -0800, evenso wrote: > >> On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 10:01:09PM +0400, Roman Khomasuridze wrote: > >>> Sorry, forgot to mention that in previous post..see settings -> window > >>> manager -> keyboard. there are bunch of related shortcuts there. > >>> remove them and you'll be all set up. > >>> > >> > >> (Starting the bottom post protocol used here.) > >> > >> That was helpful but I still haven't ever found, got working or > >> successfully > >> entered under Xfce4 the space shortcut that is used by kupfer out > >> of the box in Gnome and Openbox. Although I do have space working > >> for gmrun. For that matter, I have never succeeded in getting any > >> xyz shortcut working under Xfce4. > >> > > > > In case I am not the only person who didn't know this, I recently discovered > > that the fxce4 term for the ctrl key is "Primary" . > > > To quote a little note that showed up in the aptitude scroll during > installation of the latest libxfce4gui library to make its way into > Wheezy on my systems: > > -8<- > > libxfce4ui (4.8.0-4) unstable; urgency=low > Starting Gtk+ 2.24.7, the Control key often found on PC keyboards isn't > called 'Control' but 'Primary', breaking configured keyboard shortcuts > already set. If you experience this in Xfce (application not starting and > keyboard shortcut using Control key), just re-bind the various > shortcuts using the same keys combination. The shortcut will be > replaced by > the 'Primary' version and will work correctly. > -- Yves-Alexis Perez Mon, 28 Nov 2011 16:10:00 +0100 > > -8<- > > All I needed to do to restore my keyboard shortcuts that used the > key was to delete those shortcuts, and then re-create them. When you do > this you'll see that the left key will be called . > > Right, the nifty Settings > Keyboard > Shortcuts utility. However, I've noticed that Primary shortcut in Xfce4 are interfering with some shortcuts in mutt, even when the mutt window is not active. This didn't with the same shortcuts in Gnome because I wouldn't have been able to use mutt effectively. So Xfce4 is not respecting the window for Primary shortcuts or something is different. -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120109233431.GA4412@Deneb.office
Re: Xfce steals keyboard shortcuts?
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 04:13:37PM -0800, evenso wrote: > On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 10:01:09PM +0400, Roman Khomasuridze wrote: > > Sorry, forgot to mention that in previous post..see settings -> window > > manager -> keyboard. there are bunch of related shortcuts there. > > remove them and you'll be all set up. > > > > (Starting the bottom post protocol used here.) > > That was helpful but I still haven't ever found, got working or successfully > entered under Xfce4 the space shortcut that is used by kupfer out > of the box in Gnome and Openbox. Although I do have space working > for gmrun. For that matter, I have never succeeded in getting any > xyz shortcut working under Xfce4. > In case I am not the only person who didn't know this, I recently discovered that the fxce4 term for the ctrl key is "Primary" . -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120109005451.GA11875@Deneb.office
Re: FETCHMAIL AND GMAIL?
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 10:05:57PM +, Walter Hurry wrote: > On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 23:26:38 +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > > On Ma, 20 dec 11, 17:51:10, Brian wrote: > >> On Tue 20 Dec 2011 at 18:24:19 +0100, Alex Padoly wrote: > >> > >> > How do you do to run fecthmail with gmail with POP3 protocol, I can't > >> > it! > >> > How do you do to write the file .fetcmailrc. > >> > >> This what I have as part of my ~/.fetchmailrc > >> > >> poll pop.googlemail.com protopop3 service 995 user > >> justforme password something_longish ssl > > > > Just something that might not be obvious in Brian's example: the > > username must always be your complete e-mail address. > > > Yep. Mine looks like: > > poll imap.gmail.com protocol imap tracepolls: > user 'walterhu...@gmail.com', with password '', is walter here > options ssl > > Obviously OP would need to change the server being polled to the POP3 > one, as well as the protocol (though the reason why people want to use > POP3 when IMAP is available escapes me). > > I had problems with fetchmail and gmail pop3. emails would start being missed after undeleted emails hit about 600. By 1000 undeleted emails, nothing was being downloaded. I don't remember if emails were being marked. Fixed it by changing to IMAP. -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111224234107.GA14101@Deneb.office
Re: xfce4-panel often stops running?
0.0.1-2 xfwm4/testing uptodate 4.8.2-1 xfwm4-dbg/testing uptodate 4.8.2-1 xfwm4-themes/stable uptodate 4.6.0-2 -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111218234346.GA3447@Deneb.office
Re: Xfce steals keyboard shortcuts?
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 10:01:09PM +0400, Roman Khomasuridze wrote: > Sorry, forgot to mention that in previous post..see settings -> window > manager -> keyboard. there are bunch of related shortcuts there. > remove them and you'll be all set up. > (Starting the bottom post protocol used here.) That was helpful but I still haven't ever found, got working or successfully entered under Xfce4 the space shortcut that is used by kupfer out of the box in Gnome and Openbox. Although I do have space working for gmrun. For that matter, I have never succeeded in getting any xyz shortcut working under Xfce4. -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2029001337.GA4601@Deneb.office
Re: [OT] Re: Please kill the noise
On Thu, Oct 06, 2011 at 08:24:07AM -0600, Aaron Toponce wrote: > On 10/06/2011 06:32 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > >All of the off topic crap the last couple of days is making it more > >difficult to assist those who actually need help with Debian. > > If you are using an MUA that supports threading, then I don't see > the issue. It's all contained in one thread, and it doesn't prevent > me from seeing other posts in other threads. > > >Debian is an OS for _mature_ Linux users. Please act like one and stop > >this juvenile OT nonsense. > > Following the "Re: Wow, Evolution left me with eggs in my face" > thread, including all of its off-topic sub-threads, has shown a > great level of maturity and tact. I see nothing juvenile about the > thread personally. > Maybe the occasional off topic post should be a reminder to subscribe to d-community-offto...@lists.alioth.debian.org The official Debian archive of support information would be left cleaner. Filtering into separate or joint mailboxes gives sharper organization than depending on OT in the header. The varying needs for social environment would be satisfied along with the need for a positive signal to noise ratio. -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111008214611.GA3381@Deneb.office
Re: atfptd in squeeze won't do anything
Thanks for the reply. Yes, I'm looking to set up a PXE server. The
permissions on the directory provided to atftpd are 777 as specified in the
usage. I don't see how host.{allow,deny} make any difference with whether
or not the server starts. I'll give tftp-hpa a try, and I'll look in to
gpxe.
Thanks,
--
Isaac Freeman - Systems Administrator
IBM Information Protection Services
is...@us.ibm.com
919-254-0245
From: Scott Ferguson
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Cc: Isaac Freeman/Raleigh/Contr/IBM@IBMUS
Date: 08/30/2011 07:28 AM
Subject:Re: atfptd in squeeze won't do anything
On 24/08/11 01:24, Isaac Freeman wrote:
> I have been beating my head against the wall on this for a day and a
> half. I just installed atftpd (0.7.dfsg-9.1) on Squeeze. When I first
> installed it, it wouldn't take connections through the default inetd
> stuff. So I tried editing /etc/default/atftpd and setting
> USE_INETD=false and running it as a daemon. Still nothing. So I tried
> manually running /usr/sbin/atftpd, and no matter what options I give it
> (including none) it just prints the usage and exits, unless I specify
> --daemon and/or --no-fork in which case it just exits with an exit code
> 0 and there is no process running or anything listening on that port.
>
> Please, any ideas, reports or similar (or even different) behavior, or
> any thing else would be greatly appreciated. This is driving me crazy.
> And I can't seem to find any recent howtos on the subject, they all seem
> to be several years old, or they say basically "apt-get it, and it
> should work".
>
> Also, I tried getting tftpd-hpa working too with similar problems, but I
> haven't done as extensive of troubleshooting on that.
>
> --
> Isaac Freeman - Systems Administrator
> IBM Information Protection Services
> is...@us.ibm.com
> 919-254-0245
>
I've only ever used tftp for pxe servers - deprecated with gpxe (http is
much faster and simpler) - if that's what you want to use tftp for
you'll find tftpd-hpa much simpler to configure.
What permissions do you have on the directory being served??
Have you set up:-
/etc/hosts.allow
/etc/hosts.deny
??
If you can tell me a little more about what you want to use tftp for
more it may be helpful.
Cheers
--
"Folks, it's time to evolve. That's why we're troubled. You know why our
institutions are failing us, the church, the state, everything's
failing? It's because, um – they're no longer relevant. We're supposed
to keep evolving. Evolution did not end with us growing opposable
thumbs. You do know that, right? There's another 90 percent of our
brains that we have to illuminate."
— Bill Hicks
<>
atfptd in squeeze won't do anything
I have been beating my head against the wall on this for a day and a half. I just installed atftpd (0.7.dfsg-9.1) on Squeeze. When I first installed it, it wouldn't take connections through the default inetd stuff. So I tried editing /etc/default/atftpd and setting USE_INETD=false and running it as a daemon. Still nothing. So I tried manually running /usr/sbin/atftpd, and no matter what options I give it (including none) it just prints the usage and exits, unless I specify --daemon and/or --no-fork in which case it just exits with an exit code 0 and there is no process running or anything listening on that port. Please, any ideas, reports or similar (or even different) behavior, or any thing else would be greatly appreciated. This is driving me crazy. And I can't seem to find any recent howtos on the subject, they all seem to be several years old, or they say basically "apt-get it, and it should work". Also, I tried getting tftpd-hpa working too with similar problems, but I haven't done as extensive of troubleshooting on that. -- Isaac Freeman - Systems Administrator IBM Information Protection Services is...@us.ibm.com 919-254-0245
Re: clamav 0.97.1 not coming to squeeze-updates ?
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 02:52:35PM +, Camaleón wrote: > On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 15:04:28 +0200, Jochen Schulz wrote: > > > Camaleón: > > (...) > > >>> Lenny will reach its EOL in January 2012. > >> > >> Hey, but that was not my understanding for lenny. I know that was how > >> it used to be but now aren't we based on a 2-year of release fixed > >> cycle? :-? > >> > >> http://www.debian.org/News/2009/20090729 > >> > >> In that announcement it can be read: > > (...) > > > Interesting, I don't remember that at all. > > Before installing a system, I carefully read what is the estimated/ > foreseen EOL for it. It's a must for me because I have servers to > maintain and I can't go reinstalling every year. > > > I can only speculate about this, but I don't think this announcement is > > relevant any more. The document is from July 2009 and predicted/promised > > a squeeze release in early 2010. For that case only the authors promised > > that you could skip the squeeze release. What actually happened is that > > it took another whole year to release squeeze. > > Dunno, but I hope the commitment is still valid. > > >> I understand this is not the norm, but an exception for lenny in order > >> to accomodate to the new development cycle. > > > > … which didn't happen. > > Again, dunno. I only know what I've read at Debian official > announcements. Seems to me that we (we → Debian) have to improve our > communication skills >:-) > I've always understood old stable support to last about a year following the new stable release. But I've never read the official statement. This chart shows support lasting slightly over a year on average. And it correlates with my memory. (Which isn't necessarily saying much.) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian#Release_history -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110629182044.GB13335@Deneb.office
Re: clamav 0.97.1 not coming to squeeze-updates ?
On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 11:59:44AM +, Camaleón wrote: > On Mon, 27 Jun 2011 10:51:28 -0700, Freeman wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 03:46:32PM +, Camaleón wrote: > > (...) > > >> > Note you don't need to use squeeze-updates, so we are opting into > >> > something which can be a little more bleeding edge. > >> > >> Please, note that we are not talking about clamav database updates but > >> the package itself. If the policy has changed, good and glad to know, > >> but to be sincere, I'm not aware of that and would be nice if someone > >> can point to it. > >> > >> > > http://wiki.debian.org/StableUpdates > > > > . . . This path will be used for updates which many users may wish to > > install on their systems before the next point release is made, such as > > updates to virus scanners and timezone data. All packages from > > squeeze-updates will be included in point releases. > > > > However I take it you are drawing a distinction between security and > > other updates. But would not that then concern debian-security rather > > than squeeze-updates? > > I only know how this went for lenny. > > Lenny shipped with a clamav version (0.94) different than the one > available at lenny's volatile repo (0.97) and AFAICT, this was how it > worked: volatile repo was aimed to get upgrades for a small set of > packages that changed from time to time (like clamav, SA or tzdata) but > this upgrades were in paralel from the ones coming from stable branch, > that is, you can be running lenny with either clamav packages (stock > ones, 0.94 or volatile, 0.97). > > Indeed, I asked the same question here not much ago: > > ClamAV update to 0.97 > http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2011/02/msg01759.html > > I'm still with lenny (now oldstable) but I was even told that not all > security flaws reached votatile, just some, depending of the nature of > the flaw... > > And again, if this policy has recently changed is more than very welcome, > my clamav is also claiming for an update and oldstable is still supported. > This flow chart should clear everything up nicely. ; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Debian-package-cycl.svg -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110629181242.GA13335@Deneb.office
Re: clamav 0.97.1 not coming to squeeze-updates ?
On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 03:46:32PM +, Camaleón wrote: > On Mon, 27 Jun 2011 12:07:28 -0300, D G Teed wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Camaleón wrote: > > > >> On Mon, 27 Jun 2011 13:58:43 +0200, Eric Viseur wrote: > > (...) > > >> > I have a server complaining about clam not being up to date every > >> > night, so it's getting a little annoying, and I'd like to avoid apt > >> > -pinning if possible. > >> > >> ... for the stable/olstable branch is my understanding that only > >> security bugfixes are corrected, so if the clamav update does not > >> closes any serious flaw you will keep seeing the clamav warning at the > >> logs. But don't worry, your clients are still protected, your AV firms > >> updated and your files analyzed for any treat. > >> > >> > > This is incorrect. > > What exactly do you find incorrect? > > > Here are the announcement of squeeze-updates, with a list of reasons > > why squeeze-updates will push ahead a release... > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-volatile-announce/2011/msg0.html > > > > It even mentions clamav as one which needs to be current to be useful. > > Of course, "squeeze-updates" is the new "volatile", nothing has changed. > > > Our expectations for squeeze-updates to release clamav ahead of stable > > merely to be current are correct. > > Then it has to be a new policy. IIRC, not all of the clamav package > updates reached the stable branch via volatile (now squeeze-updates), > only those that closed security bugfixes. And I say this because I asked > this same question here, months ago, and I was told so ;-) > > > Note you don't need to use squeeze-updates, so we are opting into > > something which can be a little more bleeding edge. > > Please, note that we are not talking about clamav database updates but > the package itself. If the policy has changed, good and glad to know, but > to be sincere, I'm not aware of that and would be nice if someone can > point to it. > http://wiki.debian.org/StableUpdates . . . This path will be used for updates which many users may wish to install on their systems before the next point release is made, such as updates to virus scanners and timezone data. All packages from squeeze-updates will be included in point releases. However I take it you are drawing a distinction between security and other updates. But would not that then concern debian-security rather than squeeze-updates? -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110627175128.GB4061@Deneb.office
Re: clamav 0.97.1 not coming to squeeze-updates ?
On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 03:46:32PM +, Camaleón wrote: > On Mon, 27 Jun 2011 12:07:28 -0300, D G Teed wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Camaleón wrote: > > > >> On Mon, 27 Jun 2011 13:58:43 +0200, Eric Viseur wrote: > > (...) > > >> > I have a server complaining about clam not being up to date every > >> > night, so it's getting a little annoying, and I'd like to avoid apt > >> > -pinning if possible. > >> > >> ... for the stable/olstable branch is my understanding that only > >> security bugfixes are corrected, so if the clamav update does not > >> closes any serious flaw you will keep seeing the clamav warning at the > >> logs. But don't worry, your clients are still protected, your AV firms > >> updated and your files analyzed for any treat. > >> > >> > > This is incorrect. > > What exactly do you find incorrect? > > > Here are the announcement of squeeze-updates, with a list of reasons > > why squeeze-updates will push ahead a release... > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-volatile-announce/2011/msg0.html > > > > It even mentions clamav as one which needs to be current to be useful. > > Of course, "squeeze-updates" is the new "volatile", nothing has changed. > > > Our expectations for squeeze-updates to release clamav ahead of stable > > merely to be current are correct. > > Then it has to be a new policy. IIRC, not all of the clamav package > updates reached the stable branch via volatile (now squeeze-updates), > only those that closed security bugfixes. And I say this because I asked > this same question here, months ago, and I was told so ;-) > > > Note you don't need to use squeeze-updates, so we are opting into > > something which can be a little more bleeding edge. > > Please, note that we are not talking about clamav database updates but > the package itself. If the policy has changed, good and glad to know, but > to be sincere, I'm not aware of that and would be nice if someone can > point to it. > > > If you only want security and bug fixes that is handled by security repo > > and standard stable repo. > > I think you are talking about a different issue. > I seen this twice prior. Not running a server, I didn't concern myself with it extensively, but I did observe in consternation. The Volatile package is outdated but the the sid or testing package isn't. The wait is somewhere between 2-6 months. Bug reports happen. Eventually it shows up in Volatile. Nothing has changed except the name. -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110627173940.GA4061@Deneb.office
Re: No more GRUB legacy at install time since wheezy?
On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 01:52:15PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Fri 24 Jun 2011 at 15:11:13 -0700, Freeman wrote: > > > Grub2 didn't like my setup during upgrade. > > > > My menu.lst of Grub 0.97 included numerous different rc levels to select > > from. Just a way of selecting between different interfaces while booting. > > > > So the following blocks in the automagic section of menu.lst resulted in a 4 > > item menu for each kernel, one item booting into GDM, the next starting > > xinit > > with Openbox--booting from rc5.d, rc4.d rc3.d and rc2.d respectively. > > [Snip menu.lst fragment] > > > When grub2 setup hit that, it gave me some garbled menu item that failed, > > followed by its basic boot items for console and maintenance. > > The Release Notes for Squeeze offer advice on keeping GRUB Legacy and > chainloading GRUB 2. There is also a mention of possibly having to > adjust complex configurations to fit GRUB 2. You were in that category > so were forewarned some extra work was in prospect. It would have been > nice to have had a seamless conversion of menu.lst to grub.cfg but > sometimes it cannot be done. I figured it was like that. > > > So now I have an /etc/grub.d/09_custom that renders a menu above Grub2's > > default menu. I manually edit it for kernel upgrades with "find and > > replace" of kernel numbers. I don't like having a fractured, two part menu > > that doesn't completely upgrade automagically. But it works: > > You do not have to have it. > > You are using 09_custom for its intended purpose; previously you edited > menu.lst. To boot with the latest kernel: > > > linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.37-1-amd64 > > linux /vmlinuz > > > initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.37-1-amd64 > > initrd /initrd.img > > To tidy up the menu a non-executable 10_linux may be something to > consider. > But there are two kernels. I have installed the backports kernel, so my stable kernel is my backup kernel. update-grub under Grub 0.97 would update menu.lst with 4 run level menu items for each kernel during a kernel upgrade. I got close in 10_linux. But when I last broke it, things didn't look like I'd have a great menu. So I figured I had better uses of time. It is not a big issue to copy the old and new kernel version numbers to a find and replace. Actually, I'll put something in my functions file while I am thinking of it. . . . Did it. Took about twice as long to think up and get working as the next 3-5 years of editing manually (45 minutes), but good practice for a novice and fun. Still miss the automagic options on run levels. :) -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110625235856.GB23370@Deneb.office
Re: No more GRUB legacy at install time since wheezy?
On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 01:19:39PM -0400, Tom H wrote: > On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Freeman wrote: > > > > Grub2 didn't like my setup during upgrade. > > > > My menu.lst of Grub 0.97 included numerous different rc levels to select > > from. Just a way of selecting between different interfaces while booting. > > > > So the following blocks in the automagic section of menu.lst resulted in a 4 > > item menu for each kernel, one item booting into GDM, the next starting > > xinit with Openbox--booting from rc5.d, rc4.d rc3.d and rc2.d respectively. > > > > ## altoption boot targets option > > ## multiple altoptions lines are allowed > > ## e.g. altoptions=(extra menu suffix) extra boot options > > ## altoptions=(single-user) single > > # altoptions=(GDM) 5 vga=791 quiet > > # altoptions=(Openbox) 4 vga=791 quiet > > # altoptions=(Screen) 3 vga=791 > > # altoptions=(single-user mode) single > > > > When grub2 setup hit that, it gave me some garbled menu item that failed, > > followed by its basic boot items for console and maintenance. > > > > So now I have an /etc/grub.d/09_custom that renders a menu above Grub2's > > default menu. I manually edit it for kernel upgrades with "find and > > replace" of kernel numbers. I don't like having a fractured, two part menu > > that doesn't completely upgrade automagically. But it works: > > This was a good Debianism that I wish the Debian maintainers had tried > to have integrated into grub2 upstream. They'd just need to make, for > example, "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_ALTx" and "GRUB_TITLE_LINUX_ALTx", > available in "/etc/default/grub", with the corresponding changes in > "/usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig" and "/etc/grub.d/10_linux" for them to be > used. > Didn't know it was Debianism. But it does seem good and as if it could be saved. > > >> As an aside: Is having 'DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE' and making the file > >> read-only really an invitation to do the opposite? > > > > Without any other information, I'd have to edit the file to see what > > happens. =:0 > > Same here! :) > Debian is good for so many things. -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110625234426.GA23370@Deneb.office
Re: No more GRUB legacy at install time since wheezy?
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 09:51:14PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> On Fri 24 Jun 2011 at 21:35:16 +0200, Sven Joachim wrote:
>
> > Having switched to grub2 recently, I do that as well. But I suspect
> > most people will be content with the simpler configuration options
> > offered by editing /etc/default/grub and running update-grub.
>
> That's me! Although I do have a little change made to debian_theme.
>
> Why is it some people dislike GRUB2? My experience isn't great but it
> boots Debian kernels reliably on my machines. Nothing complicated I
Grub2 didn't like my setup during upgrade.
My menu.lst of Grub 0.97 included numerous different rc levels to select
from. Just a way of selecting between different interfaces while booting.
So the following blocks in the automagic section of menu.lst resulted in a 4
item menu for each kernel, one item booting into GDM, the next starting
xinit with Openbox--booting from rc5.d, rc4.d rc3.d and rc2.d respectively.
## altoption boot targets option
## multiple altoptions lines are allowed
## e.g. altoptions=(extra menu suffix) extra boot options
## altoptions=(single-user) single
# altoptions=(GDM) 5 vga=791 quiet
# altoptions=(Openbox) 4 vga=791 quiet
# altoptions=(Screen) 3 vga=791
# altoptions=(single-user mode) single
## controls how many kernels should be put into the menu.lst
## only counts the first occurence of a kernel, not the
## alternative kernel options
## e.g. howmany=all
## howmany=7
# howmany=all
When grub2 setup hit that, it gave me some garbled menu item that failed,
followed by its basic boot items for console and maintenance.
So now I have an /etc/grub.d/09_custom that renders a menu above Grub2's
default menu. I manually edit it for kernel upgrades with "find and
replace" of kernel numbers. I don't like having a fractured, two part menu
that doesn't completely upgrade automagically. But it works:
#!/bin/sh
exec tail -n +3 $0
# mine
menuentry "> -- // Deneb HD II -- Debian GNU/Linux -- <" {
set root=(hd1,mdos3)
}
menuentry 'Debian GNU/Linux, Kernel 2.6.37-1-amd64 (GDM)' --class debian
--class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os {
insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
set root='(hd1,msdos3)'
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set
ab51dc6e-10ca-4c02-b9dd-d6a4d393cb9e
echo'Loading Linux 2.6.37-1-amd64 ...'
linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.37-1-amd64
root=UUID=ab51dc6e-10ca-4c02-b9dd-d6a4d393cb9e ro irqpoll 5 quiet
echo'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.37-1-amd64
}
menuentry 'Debian GNU/Linux, Kernel 2.6.37-1-amd64 (OpenBox)' --class debian
--class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os {
insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
set root='(hd1,msdos3)'
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set
ab51dc6e-10ca-4c02-b9dd-d6a4d393cb9e
echo'Loading Linux 2.6.37-1-amd64 ...'
linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.37-1-amd64
root=UUID=ab51dc6e-10ca-4c02-b9dd-d6a4d393cb9e ro irqpoll 4
echo'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.37-1-amd64
}
menuentry 'Debian GNU/Linux, Kernel 2.6.37-1-amd64 (Screen)' --class debian
--class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os {
insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
set root='(hd1,msdos3)'
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set
ab51dc6e-10ca-4c02-b9dd-d6a4d393cb9e
echo'Loading Linux 2.6.37-1-amd64 ...'
linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.37-1-amd64
root=UUID=ab51dc6e-10ca-4c02-b9dd-d6a4d393cb9e ro irqpoll 3
echo'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.37-1-amd64
. . .
> admit, and I'm not overfussed about configuring it to display fancy
> menus. What basic changes to grub.cfg cannot be made from the files in
> /etc?
>
> As an aside: Is having 'DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE' and making the file
> read-only really an invitation to do the opposite?
>
Without any other information, I'd have to edit the file to see what
happens. =:0
--
Regards,
Freeman
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answer." --Somebody
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Re: Almost everyday a new issue: this time Amarok
On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 09:41:06PM +0100, AG wrote: > On 19/06/11 20:05, Freeman wrote: > >On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 07:01:07PM +0100, AG wrote: > >>On 19/06/11 17:41, lee wrote: > >>>AG writes: > >>> > >>>>Hey list > >>>> > >>>>Today a new issue reared its ugly head. I installed, using > >>>>safe-update from the Update Manager in GNOME, on a wheezy > >>>>installation, Amarok . > >>>> > >>>>When I go to run Amarok, it crashes. This is the output: > >>>>[...] > >>>>this ... any ideas? > >>>How about purging amarok, removing all configuration files that may be > >>>left in your home directory and install it with aptitude? > >>> > >>> > >>Hi Lee > >> > >>Did that and the Amrok app still crashes. > >> > >1.) testing = TESTING > > > >If the only problem in testing right now is applications, that is a > >good thing. During the squeeze testing cycle I was without adequate video > >for 6 months and would have been for most of the cycle had I not held on to > >old drivers for a year. And I had sound issues the lasted half of the cycle > >too. > > > > & you accepted that as okay? > Did for years. When I wanted something more stable--and would have been willing to complain about it--I went to, of all things, stable, where I've had no complaints. Debian is *free* monetarily, along with other open source software. But there is a price: your time, effort and positive contribution. (Not to mention the time, effort and positive contribution of open source developers who sincerely want nothing but to succeed in *giving* you advanced software.) That price is magnified exponentially by moving outside of Debian stable. > Testing is one thing, but unless our Sid/ experimental colleagues > are really putting up with some dire situations regarding upstream > applications, then why would testing be subjected to passed along > configurations that aren't fit for purpose? > The Debian assurances are associated with the stable release. Stable is the only official release. One purpose of testing is to get bug reports from the general usage at large, which can't be duplicated anywhere else. I am sure that developers strive for certain standards in the testing release. But better to fail them in testing than in stable. I have heard rumors that development schedules sometimes force packages into testing when they will be broken or constitute problem because there simply is no other solution. That happened to fglrx and my video card. There simply wasn't a replacement and Debian development had to move forward, eventually breaking my old version of fglrx, in order to, among other things, develop the replacement. It is easy and maybe fun to sit in judgement. It is much harder to make a complicated system in a complicated world perfect, not to mention *free*. And Debian does something like that. > >2.) Amarok 2 is under heavy development right now. > > > >The version number may look high enough but the code is a complete rewrite. > > In which case, it shouldn't be passed along until such time as the > relevant dependencies are fixed. You are welcome to the stable version and I am pretty sure that the 1.4-something version previously mentioned as rock solid will run on stable, maybe testing. You are also welcome to educate yourself on the general status and issues of all the *free* open-source software there is to choose from. There is *free* documentation (not anticipating a profitable sale) to make choosing as easy as possible. But the work involved will never be completely taken out of the equation, even by all those hard working volunteers and developers donating their time and resources, unless you pay somebody. > >3.) Amarok is from KDE, Banshee is the official Gnome music suite. > > > >For Amarok, make sure all the KDE dependencies are installed. > > It used to work until the latest round of "safe" upgrades. > I've always understood "safe" in this case to mean that you will be left with a bootable computer, not that there is a guarantee against application breakage. Might be worth reading the docs if it is an issue for you. I haven't since it isn't for me. > >4.) There are a lot of lib dependency upgrades between 2.3.1 and 2.4.1, > >looks like most in fact. > > In which case I would have expected a mature package manager like > apt-get or aptitude to compensate for, which is part of what they > are intended to do. Even in stable, I use apt-move to archive the old version of everything I upgrade. I mean really, find the perfect c
Re: Almost everyday a new issue: this time Amarok
On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 12:05:46PM -0700, evenso wrote: > > 5.) There is an amarok mailing list, ama...@kde.org, where the developers > themselves will respond to your queries directly, given time. > Oh, Looks like you were there 8 minutes ago. -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110619191641.GB3879@Deneb.office
Re: Almost everyday a new issue: this time Amarok
On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 07:01:07PM +0100, AG wrote: > On 19/06/11 17:41, lee wrote: > >AG writes: > > > >>Hey list > >> > >>Today a new issue reared its ugly head. I installed, using > >>safe-update from the Update Manager in GNOME, on a wheezy > >>installation, Amarok . > >> > >>When I go to run Amarok, it crashes. This is the output: > >>[...] > >>this ... any ideas? > >How about purging amarok, removing all configuration files that may be > >left in your home directory and install it with aptitude? > > > > > Hi Lee > > Did that and the Amrok app still crashes. > 1.) testing = TESTING If the only problem in testing right now is applications, that is a good thing. During the squeeze testing cycle I was without adequate video for 6 months and would have been for most of the cycle had I not held on to old drivers for a year. And I had sound issues the lasted half of the cycle too. 2.) Amarok 2 is under heavy development right now. The version number may look high enough but the code is a complete rewrite. 3.) Amarok is from KDE, Banshee is the official Gnome music suite. For Amarok, make sure all the KDE dependencies are installed. 4.) There are a lot of lib dependency upgrades between 2.3.1 and 2.4.1, looks like most in fact. 5.) There is an amarok mailing list, ama...@kde.org, where the developers themselves will respond to your queries directly, given time. 6.) I solved my problems trying to keep the latest version of Amarok by installing from squeeze-backports. This might still work for wheezy and there is a chance it will resolve the issue if it is dependency related. -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110619190546.GA3879@Deneb.office
Re: What controls X?
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 03:49:50PM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: > >Hi list, > > > >after some update long time ago, kdm is starting on console 9 > >instead od console 7 (which is deafult). > > > >I could still not find out, where X is controlled at. I found this process: > > > >root 10358 7.8 1.9 146300 41052 tty10Rs+ 19:13 14:11 > >/usr/bin/X :0 vt10 -br -nolisten tcp -auth > >/var/run/xauth/A:0-DzJNF > > > >Examing the system, I found in /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc > > > >exec /usr/bin/X -nolisten tcp "$@" > > > >where "$@" I suppose is the console-number. > > > >But where does it get from? In kdmrc the terminal is configured, > >that it should use the next free console (ServerVTs=-7).File > >/etc/inittab is identically like on my other computers, where X is > >still running on console 7. > > > >Just on my amd64-system it is started wrong. Although it is not a > >big problem at all, I am very interested, how things work > >together, as I found no misconfigured configuration yet. > > > >It would be nice, if someone might point me, which configs are > >involved, and maybe which steps I should check, to get X back to > >console 7. > > > >(besides: Of course, it is working, if I change > > > >ServerVTs=-7 > > > >but as this setting is workingh on all my other systems, I want to > >leave it as set by default and find out, why the same settings > >differ only on this special machine. > > > >Hope, someone knwos better, as I try to solve this now since months. > > > > I note that with gdm3 X jumps to console 8 upon restart of gdm3. > > Hugo > I've had the impression that X has been showing up in random consoles ever since squeeze testing but I never looked into it. -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110617211057.GA7910@Europa.office
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Re: How select the access point manually in a wireless network?
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 05:44:17AM -0700, Adrian Rocha wrote: > It doesn't works > I try this in a place when I have signal of booth access points > I attached the the console screen: > > (when I'm in the first floor) > [root@rocha-ar /]# iwconfig eth1 > eth1 IEEE 802.11abgn ESSID:"TCORP" Nickname:"" > Mode:Managed Frequency:2.447 GHz Access Point: 00:3A:99:0C:27:30 > > Bit Rate=11 Mb/s Tx-Power:24 dBm > Retry min limit:7 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off > Power Managementmode:All packets received > Link Quality=3/5 Signal level=-69 dBm Noise level=-82 dBm > Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:42 Rx invalid frag:0 > Tx excessive retries:71 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0 > (in the second) > [root@rocha-ar /]# iwconfig eth1 > eth1 IEEE 802.11abgn ESSID:"TCORP" Nickname:"" > Mode:Managed Frequency:2.417 GHz Access Point: 00:22:0C:94:CD:10 > > Bit Rate=11 Mb/s Tx-Power:24 dBm > Retry min limit:7 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off > Power Managementmode:All packets received > Link Quality=5/5 Signal level=-52 dBm Noise level=-82 dBm > Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:45 Rx invalid frag:0 > Tx excessive retries:85 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0 > (and I try this in the middle) > [root@rocha-ar /]# iwconfig eth1 ap 00:3A:99:0C:27:30 > [root@rocha-ar /]# iwconfig eth1 > eth1 IEEE 802.11abgn ESSID:"TCORP" Nickname:"" > Mode:Managed Frequency:2.417 GHz Access Point: 00:22:0C:94:CD:10 > > Bit Rate=36 Mb/s Tx-Power:24 dBm > Retry min limit:7 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off > Power Managementmode:All packets received > Link Quality=4/5 Signal level=-65 dBm Noise level=-89 dBm > Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:45 Rx invalid frag:0 ^^^ > Tx excessive retries:86 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0 > > The access point doesn't change > OK. But do you need to be entering a password with the "key" parameter? -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110615215947.GA4476@Europa.office
Re: installing .debs from hdd
On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 01:27:49PM -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: > On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 06:45:04AM +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: > > On 12/06/11 06:22, Robert Holtzman wrote: > > > How can I install multiple debs residing in a directory on my hard > > > drive? > > > Unless I missed it, running a search, the Debian Reference manual and the > > > Maintainers Guide shows nothing applicable. Any pointers appreciated. > > > > > # dpkg -i /path/to/harddrive/*.deb > > That did the trick. Thanks. BTW, where in the docs does it mention this > situation and point to dpkg? I would love to know where I missed it. > This past year I discovered wajig. It is a python script that calls on installed tools to offer a sort of simplified/omniscient set of commands. http://www.togaware.com/linux/survivor/History_Motivations.html It is easy to pick up, *can install from a local path name*, build debs from source and some other nice commands. A little lacking on documentation. Attached is a list of commands. -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody freeman@Europa:~$ wajig -v help COMMANDS: addcdrom Add a CD-ROM to the list of available sources of packages addrepoAdd a Launchpad PPA (Personal Package Archive) repository auto-alts Mark the alternative to be auto set (using set priorities) auto-clean Remove superceded .deb files from the download cache auto-download Do an update followed by a download of all updated packages autoremove Remove packages installed automatically as dependencies. bugReport a bug in a package using Debian BTS (Bug Tracking System). build Retrieve/unpack sources and build .deb for the named packages build-depend Retrieve packages required to build listed packages changelog Display Debian changelog for a given package clean Remove all deb files from the download cache commands Display all the JIG commands and one short descriptions for each contents List the contents of a package file daily-upgrade Perform an update then a dist-upgrade dependents List of packages which depend/recommend/suggest the package describe One line description of packages (-v and -vv for more detail) describe-new One line description of new packages detail Provide a detailed description of package (describe -vv) detail-new Provide a detailed description of new packages (describe -vv) dist-upgrade Upgrade to new distribution (installed and new rqd packages) docs Equivalent to help with -verbose=2 download Download package files ready for an install download-file Download packages listed in file ready for an install editsourcesEdit list of archives which locates Debian package sources extractExtract the files from a package file to a directory find-file Search for a file within installed packages find-pkg Search for an unofficial Debian package at apt-get.org fix-configure Perform dpkg --configure -a (to fix interrupted configure) fix-installPerform apt-get -f install (to fix broken dependencies) fix-missingPerform apt-get --fix-missing upgrade force Install packages and ignore file overwrites and depends help Print documentation (detail depends on --verbose) hold Place listed packages on hold so they are not upgraded init Initialise or reset the JIG archive files info List the information contained in a package file installInstall one or more packages or .deb files install-file Install those packages that are listed in a file installs Install package and associated suggested packages install/dist Install packages from specified dist (must be in sources.list) integrity Check the integrity of installed packages (through checksums) large List size of all large (>10MB) installed packages last-updateIdentify when an update was last performed list List the status and description of installed packages list-all List a one line description of given or all packages list-alts List the objects that can have alternatives configured list-cache List the contents of the download cache list-commands List all the JIG commands and one line descriptions for each list-daemons List the daemons that JIG can start/stop/restart list-files List the files that are supplied by the named package list-hold List those packages on hold list-installed List packages (with optional argument substring) installed list-log Display APT log file list-names List all known packages or those containing supplied string list-orph
Re: broadcom
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 08:47:51PM +0200, steef wrote: > Volkan YAZICI schreef: > >IMHO, you have two options: > > > >1. Solve the issue by fixing the drivers supplied by the distribution. > >(As others have explained in the previous replies.) > > > >2. Use new brcm80211[1] drivers. For this purpose, I'd make a custom > >kernel package (see make-kpkg) using the latest stable kernel > >sources, which bundle brcm80211 by default. > > > > > >Best. > > > >[1] http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/brcm80211 > > > >On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 15:32:00 +0200, steef writes: > >>bought my self a hp mini-netbook, included windoze7 and a very strong accu, > >>10 > >>hours of life. > >> > >>i put sid on an usb-stick, included fluxbox and wicd(-curses). > >> > >>wifi = (lspci) brcm4313. (type 5.60.350.6) > >> > >>loaded/installed the according the debian broadcom- (broadcom 43xx wireless > >>drivers) -wiki convenient driver_firmware. the driver should be included > >>in the > >>sid_kernel, so i understood. however: this wifi_driver does not work. > >> > >>my questions: what did i do wrong if anything (1) ? > >> > >>and > >> > >>broadcom assued a so-called xxx-STA driver (by google) somebody with some > >>experience with this brcm4313 driver for linux (tar.gz) does this one work > >>for > >>my mini_netbook (2) ? > >> > >>if i find a working driver i can get rid of w7. > > > ... hi: a good advice. i got everything working by now, but, > nevertheless just for fun i built my own kernel with the wl.ko > driver included in the net_modules. works excellent and was after a > couple of years an excellent rehearsel/training. > Glad for that. [This whole thread, for reasons unbeknownst to me, just assembled correctly coherently in mutt for the first time.] So, if you find a way to get Wireless and LAN working together with the xxx-STA driver running, I'd be happy to hear of it. Other than, of course, changing the broadcom module blacklist and rebooting. Happy mini-neting! -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110613190905.GA7493@Europa.office
Re: hard drive configuration
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 02:28:26PM +0200, Andrej Kacian wrote: > On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 16:28:32 -0700 > Freeman wrote: > > >The disadvantage is wasted space, since each partition has some expansion > >room that equals lost contiguous bulk space. (Reading up on LVM's is on my > >todo list.) > > You really should, there's no reason not to use LVM, especially for wacky > setup like yours. :) > Thanx. On this list, that is quite a complement! ;) I'll assign a higher priority to the LVM todo. -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110611220625.GB4954@Deneb.office
Re: broadcom
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 03:32:00PM +0200, steef wrote: > > hi list, > > bought my self a hp mini-netbook, included windoze7 and a very > strong accu, 10 hours of life. > > i put sid on an usb-stick, included fluxbox and wicd(-curses). > > wifi = (lspci) brcm4313. (type 5.60.350.6) > > loaded/installed the according the debian broadcom- (broadcom 43xx > wireless drivers) -wiki convenient driver_firmware. the driver > should be included in the sid_kernel, so i understood. however: this > wifi_driver does not work. > > my questions: what did i do wrong if anything (1) ? > > and > > broadcom assued a so-called xxx-STA driver (by google) somebody with > some experience with this brcm4313 driver for linux (tar.gz) does > this one work for my mini_netbook (2) ? > > if i find a working driver i can get rid of w7. > You need broadcom-sta. Read here http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=broadcom-sta # apt-get install broadcom-sta-common broadcom-sta-source module-assistant +make debhelper quilt bzip2 I don't remember how much of the install dpkg does automatically. But I believe you will be using module-assistant. So don't forget sta-source and do all the preliminary steps and downloads within module-assistant. Then select the broadcom-sta module, build and install. Broadcom-STA is an imperfect solution. It's performance has been knonw to vary. It will blacklist a number of modules, disabling your LAN connection. The blacklist will be under /etc/modprob.d/broadcom-sta-common.conf . To use the LAN, I had an alias that moved /etc/modprob.d/broadcom-sta-common.conf to /root then rebooted. And visa-versa. I do have an alternate blacklist file that, in addition, blacklists broadcom but I don't think that was necessary to use the LAN. (It has been awhile.) -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110611215132.GA4954@Deneb.office
Re: hard drive configuration
On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 09:23:08AM -0700, prad wrote: > in the past we've had two partitions: > / > /data > into the latter went home, www, mail and we'd softlink from the > appropriate places. the nice thing about this setup has always been that > when we upgraded or tried a different system there wasn't any data > copying to do. > > now we've been experimenting with xfs on which there will be openvs > containers to run the web/mail servers. containers go into /var/lib/vz > and we're thinking of keeping them in a separate partition > too. additionally, we've split things up so there are partitions for > /usr /usr/local /tmp /home and so on. > > so i'm musing over whether to have a /data partition as before - it > doesn't seem to make quite the same sense at this stage. however, when > it comes time to change to the next debian, i keep thinking having the > data separate may be an advantage. > > do people have favorite partitioning schemes with appropriate > justifications for them? > I take it to the extreme. /home includes a lot of potentially obsolete or wrong configs during a move to a new system. And there can still be important configs and tweaks in /etc and /usr. And I have lot so data in srv. So I break it up into 7 or 8 partitions. Extra advantages: 1. easily staggered backups according to priorities 2. quick disk checks at boot. Each partition is set to a disk check interval with a unique prime number so partition checks rarely overlap. The disadvantage is wasted space, since each partition has some expansion room that equals lost contiguous bulk space. (Reading up on LVM's is on my todo list.) These are about to burst because I am downloading big files. sda1, 2 & 4 are primaries. 3 is the extended. FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sda5 3.3G 2.6G 475M 85% / tmpfs 505M 0 505M 0% /lib/init/rw udev 504M 228K 504M 1% /dev tmpfs 505M 0 505M 0% /dev/shm /dev/sda2 77M 46M 27M 64% /boot /dev/sda6 2.9G 2.7G 118M 96% /usr /dev/sda7 4.1G 3.3G 625M 85% /usr/share /dev/sda8 9.2G 7.8G 900M 90% /home /dev/sda112.2G 1.7G 363M 83% /var /dev/sda124.9G 2.8G 1.9G 60% /srv /dev/sda101.6G 104K 1.5G 1% /tmp /dev/sda4 65G 65G 253M 100% /mnt/Library /dev/sda1 18G 17G 400M 98% /mnt/XP -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110610232832.GA5532@Europa.office
Re: [Debian 6] - unexpected issue with iso images
On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 09:29:31AM +0100, Lisi wrote: > On Tuesday 07 June 2011 02:27:26 Bret Busby wrote: > > First thing - I think that it would be a good idea for each version to > > have its own mailing list, > > Please, no! We can surely all benefit from the issues that people are > having, > even in versions which we are not using? I know that I do. And although I > am currently using Lenny, I want to know about issues in Squeeze and Wheezy > for when I upgrade. Indeed, they can help me decide when to upgrade. > > Not to mention the fact that some of us for one reason or another are using > an > obsolute version (I had to recently for a course that I was doing.) An e.g. > Etch mailing list would have virtually no traffic, but by going to this more > general list, I was able to get help. And how many back mailing lists would > you keep? How far back would these separate lists go? Woody? Potato? the > beginning? > Not to mention the test posts and subscription issues and the arduous and redundant associated threads that would plague the newest list for at least a year every alternate year. And to which list would users post OT? They'd be forced to use D-community-offtopic! Moreover, to which would Ubuntu users post? They'd have to figure the closest equivalent release. But they might get frustrated and forgo posting. Wait a minute . . . -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110607194401.GC25478@Europa.office
Re: multi-boot mess: have I destroyed Windows 7 ?
an_theme ###
>
> ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/10_linux ###
> menuentry 'Debian GNU/Linux, with Linux 2.6.32-5-amd64' --class debian
> --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os {
> insmod part_msdos
> insmod ext2
> set root='(hd0,msdos5)'
> search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set d487742e-ad50-4347-8d9a-b8d0f1908c13
> echo'Loading Linux 2.6.32-5-amd64 ...'
> linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-5-amd64
> root=UUID=d487742e-ad50-4347-8d9a-b8d0f1908c13 ro quiet
> echo'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
> initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-5-amd64
> }
> menuentry 'Debian GNU/Linux, with Linux 2.6.32-5-amd64 (recovery mode)'
> --class debian --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os {
> insmod part_msdos
> insmod ext2
> set root='(hd0,msdos5)'
> search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set d487742e-ad50-4347-8d9a-b8d0f1908c13
> echo'Loading Linux 2.6.32-5-amd64 ...'
> linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-5-amd64
> root=UUID=d487742e-ad50-4347-8d9a-b8d0f1908c13 ro single
> echo'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
> initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-5-amd64
> }
. . .
--
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Freeman
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Re: 0 years 1st programmed computer? - Re: Poll Summary & Poll 1b - What Smartphone do you use?
On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 11:19:19AM +0530, Mihira Fernando wrote: > On 05/27/2011 08:55 AM, Freeman wrote: > >and a habit of attempting to impress attractive young women with it all. > > Did this ever work ? :D > Most are patient but, outside of a couple of diversions to youtube, . . . no. :) I think of it as similar to when M$ first came out with their portable music player (the whatchamacallit) with some sort of bluetooth or some feature that the ipod had not. Apple made the hilarious response that they weren't worried because the feature was so slow that by time it was running the girls had left the table. But I still have the assumption that there are "nurdettes" (pretty hot these days) out there someplace that would appreciate my Debian installs. -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110527190620.GB4022@Deneb.office
Re: 0 years 1st programmed computer? - Re: Poll Summary & Poll 1b - What Smartphone do you use?
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 10:19:29PM -0700, giovanni_re wrote: > On Thu, 26 May 2011 20:25:32 -0700, "Freeman" said: > > But, not a programmer, just an enthusiast/hobbiest with a love of Debian, > > > :) > > If that's the way you want to read my question, fine by me. ;) > > > The way _I_ read my question: > >> > > 2) How many years ago did you 1st program a computer? 0 to #, > >> > > or N=Never > > is "How many years ago did you 1st program a computer?" > > ;) :) > > > If you wish, please let me know if that # is different from "0". > :) > OK, I think I see. I have a slightly different definition of "programming". I was writing batch files on my Win95 machine in '96. I first installed and began configuring Red Hat around 2001. So I will go with corrected response of *10* . :) -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110527185149.GA4022@Deneb.office
Re: 0 years 1st programmed computer? - Re: Poll Summary & Poll 1b - What Smartphone do you use?
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 04:48:25PM -0700, giovanni_re wrote: > On Tue, 17 May 2011 19:07:09 -0700, "Freeman" said: > > On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 09:48:23PM -0700, giovanni_re wrote: > > > > . . . > > > OK: What Smartphone do you use? > > > Manufacturer name, Model name, OS name, Cell Carrier name, Country you > > > live in. > > > > Treo, Palm, Verizon, US. I still hate it after 4 years. > > > > > What is the # of years in your Age, Programming, Debian? > > > > 50-something, 0, 7 > > > > P.S. The Treo, a replacement already, lost its screen since the last > > pole. > > :) I checked the cable but cleaning connections didn't fix it. > > > > Rather than spend money on new parts, or a new contract with Verizon over > > new equipment, I went to a second-hand electronics store and bought the > > cheapest Verizon phone I could find with a good battery and switched my > > number to it. I am putting all the phone budget I can toward a simmed > > Android, I think. And I'll get some Debian going on it. > > Hi Freeman :) > > I got a laugh out of your reply here - in a nice way. > > I'm thinking perhaps you didn't press on some key hard enough. > > Are you sure your answer to #2 is "0"? ;) > > (Please reply to the list - I'm "to"ing you cause this reply is to a > message from last week. ;) ) > No stubborn/sticky keys. :) At this juncture I would like to reference another post to the thread: "This fascinates me. You think everyone on this list is a programmer?" Excepting myself, looks like your expectation was correct, at least regarding thread respondents. debian-users is where the best info with the best signal-to-noise ratio is so here I am. I've done lots of html, plenty of bash, some perl and a little php. I have a special backup for all the system files in /etc and /usr/share that I have tweaked so as to ease the carry-forward to new releases. But, not a programmer, just an enthusiast/hobbiest with a love of Debian, a high error rate, a strong penchant for having the best customized old laptops possible, a soar butt at times, and a habit of attempting to impress attractive young women with it all. Thanks. -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110527032531.GA3120@Deneb.office
Re: Problematic Acroread Install in Squeeze
On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 10:14:29AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Jo, 19 mai 11, 18:07:44, Freeman wrote: > ... > > 18 trying to overwrite '/usr/share/man/man1/acroread.1.gz', which is > > also in > > 19 /package adobereader-enu 9.3.2 > > Get rid of this package > > > 121 root@Europa:/home/freeman# cd /usr/share/man/man1 > > 122 root@Europa:/usr/share/man/man1# mv acroread.1.gz > > acroread.1.gz.bak > > 123 root@Europa:/usr/share/man/man1# stat acroread* > > 124 File: acroread.1.gz.bak' -> > > 125 /opt/Adobe/Reader9/Resource/Shell/acroread.1.gz' > > 126 Size: 47 Blocks: 0 IO Block: 4096 > > symbolic link > > 127 Device: 807h/2055d Inode: 10078 Links: 1 > > 128 Access: (0777/lrwxrwxrwx) Uid: (0/root) Gid: (0/ > > root) > > 129 Access: 2010-05-15 17:32:09.0 -0700 > > 130 Modify: 2010-05-15 17:32:09.0 -0700 > > 131 Change: 2011-05-19 17:27:38.0 -0700 > > (Re)moving the file is not enough, since dpkg has it's internal database > about what's installed where. Get rid of the package (using apt or > dpkg), not of the files. > Thanks Andrei. dpkg -P did it. Looks like I got Adobereader-enu off of their site and forgot about it. Therefore, no conflict listed in the deb. -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110520204046.GA14328@Europa.office
Problematic Acroread Install in Squeeze
Wanted to try Acroread. The package acroread-debian-files would not install. There are no dependency problems. I switched to apt-get at the prompt. About line 111 below I dpkg-configure says it can't overwrite a man file. So I try to move that file in line 122 to no avail. Now aptitude refuses to uninstall Adobe Reader. :) Haven't tried uninstalling Acroread yet. Any insights appreciated! 1 root@Europa:/home/freeman# aptitude install acroread-debian-files 2 The following NEW packages will be installed: 3 acroread-debian-files 4 The following partially installed packages will be configured: 5 acroread acroread-data acroread-dictionary-en acroread-escript 6 acroread-l10n-en acroread-plugins mozilla-acroread 7 0 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 9 not upgraded. 8 Need to get 0 B/18.7 kB of archives. After unpacking 152 kB will be used. 9 Reading package fields... Done 10 Reading package status... Done 11 Retrieving bug reports... Done 12 Parsing Found/Fixed information... Done 13 (Reading database ... 229884 files and directories currently installed.) 14 Unpacking acroread-debian-files (from 15 .../acroread-debian-files_9.4.2_i386.deb) ... 16 dpkg: error processing 17 /var/cache/apt/archives/acroread-debian-files_9.4.2_i386.deb (--unpack): 18 trying to overwrite '/usr/share/man/man1/acroread.1.gz', which is also in 19 /package adobereader-enu 9.3.2 20 configured to not write apport reports 21 Processing triggers for menu ... 22 Processing triggers for man-db ... 23 Errors were encountered while processing: 24 /var/cache/apt/archives/acroread-debian-files_9.4.2_i386.deb 25 E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) 26 A package failed to install. Trying to recover: 27 dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of acroread: 28 acroread depends on acroread-debian-files (>= 0.2.12); however: 29 Package acroread-debian-files is not installed. 30 dpkg: error processing acroread (--configure): 31 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured 32 dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of mozilla-acroread: 33 mozilla-acroread depends on acroread (= 9.4.2-0.0); however: 34 Package acroread is not configured yet. 35 dpkg: error processing mozilla-acroread (--configure): 36 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured 37 dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of acroread-l10n-en: 38 acroread-l10n-en depends on acroread (= 9.4.2-0.0); however: 39 Package acroread is not configured yet. 40 dpkg: error processing acroread-l10n-en (--configure): 41 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured 42 dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of acroread-plugins: 43 acroread-plugins depends on acroread (= 9.4.2-0.0); however: 44 Package acroread is not configured yet. 45 dpkg: error processing acroread-plugins (--configure): 46 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured 47 dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of acroread-dictionary-en: 48 acroread-dictionary-en depends on acroread (= 9.4.2-0.0); however: 49 Package acroread is not configured yet. 50 dpkg: error processing acroread-dictionary-en (--configure): 51 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured 52 dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of acroread-data: 53 acroread-data depends on acroread (= 9.4.2-0.0); however: 54 Package acroread is not configured yet. 55 dpkg: error processing acroread-data (--configure): 56 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured 57 dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of acroread-escript: 58 acroread-escript depends on acroread (= 9.4.2-0.0); however: 59 Package acroread is not configured yet. 60 dpkg: error processing acroread-escript (--configure): 61 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured 62 Errors were encountered while processing: 63 acroread 64 mozilla-acroread 65 acroread-l10n-en 66 acroread-plugins 67 acroread-dictionary-en 68 acroread-data 69 acroread-escript 70 71 root@Europa:/home/freeman# dpkg-reconfigure acroread 72 /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: acroread is broken or not fully installed 73 root@Europa:/home/freeman# dpkg-reconfigure acroread-escript 74 /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: acroread-escript is broken or not fully 75 /installed 76 root@Europa:/home/freeman# apt-get install acroread 77 Reading package lists... Done 78 Building dependency tree 79 Reading state information... Done 80 acroread is already the newest version. 81 acroread set to manually installed. 82 You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these: 83 The following packages have unmet dependencies: 84 acroread : Depends: acroread-debian-files (>= 0.2.12) but it is not going 85 to be installed 86 E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify 87 a solution). 88 root@Europa:/home/freeman
Re: What is the recommended way to handle squeeze-proposed-updates?
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 04:05:20PM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > In <20110519195909.GA8991@Europa.office>, Freeman wrote: > >Proposed-updates replaces the volatile archive. > > No, that's stable-updates, not stable-proposed-updates. Ugh. True this is. So stable-proposed-updates specifically regards the next point release. While stable-updates regards situations like the classic ClamAV example. And there is overlap from stable-updates packages also included in point releases. http://wiki.debian.org/StableUpdates -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110519221233.GA31263@Europa.office
Re: What is the recommended way to handle squeeze-proposed-updates?
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 12:59:09PM -0700, evenso wrote: > On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 08:15:33PM -0700, Mark wrote: > >After apt-get update and apt-get upgrade, 13 > > packages were updated/upgraded including apt. Am I supposed to keep the > > proposed updates repos active in sources.list for the life of squeeze, or do > > something else? What if I comment it out now? I want this to be a stable > > system. This is a brand new area for me so any help is appreciated. Also, > > after doing this, the bug in Squeeze is fixed, but after I boot into Windows > > 7 on the dual-boot machine and reboot into Squeeze, it passes the Grub > > splash screen and then some tests until it gets to the section dealing with > > the drives/devices and completely freezes with blinking cursor and no > > activity. A hard shut down is required. Anyone else experienced this? > > > > Run > > apt-cache policy > > If squeeze-proposed-updates is a priority of 100, it should update if > necessary any of the packages installed without adding packages from that > archive > unless you manually install. To clarify: 100 would only update packages specifically from that release if there any squeeze-proposed-updates specific packages and if they are installed. But I would guess that most squeeze-proposed-updates packages will show up in squeeze eventually. > > If squeeze is a priority of 500, you might consider making squeeze your > default in your /etc/apt/apt.conf file. > > As root: > > echo 'APT::Default-Release "stable";' >> /etc/apt/apt.conf > That should give squeeze a priority of 990, which would insure squeeze updates and security updates only to squeeze packages. -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110519201719.GB8991@Europa.office
Re: What is the recommended way to handle squeeze-proposed-updates?
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 08:15:33PM -0700, Mark wrote: > Hi, > > I had to add the squeeze-proposed-updates repos to my sources.list after > learning about the intel 855gm bug in squeeze that requires a fix from the > proposed updates section. Proposed-updates replaces the volatile archive. They are packages that are being expedited into the release update process. Stable, for example, would not normally update at all outside of security, bugs such as you mention. Another purpose is packages that sometimes require more frequent upgrades such as ClamAV. Although I don't see why one would want to upgrade their anti-virus from anything less than testing-proposed-updates or unstable--excepting compatibility problems with the release. >After apt-get update and apt-get upgrade, 13 > packages were updated/upgraded including apt. Am I supposed to keep the > proposed updates repos active in sources.list for the life of squeeze, or do > something else? What if I comment it out now? I want this to be a stable > system. This is a brand new area for me so any help is appreciated. Also, > after doing this, the bug in Squeeze is fixed, but after I boot into Windows > 7 on the dual-boot machine and reboot into Squeeze, it passes the Grub > splash screen and then some tests until it gets to the section dealing with > the drives/devices and completely freezes with blinking cursor and no > activity. A hard shut down is required. Anyone else experienced this? > Run apt-cache policy If squeeze-proposed-updates is a priority of 100, it should update if necessary any of the packages installed without adding packages from that archive unless you manually install. If squeeze is a priority of 500, you might consider making squeeze your default in your /etc/apt/apt.conf file. As root: echo 'APT::Default-Release "stable";' >> /etc/apt/apt.conf -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110519195909.GA8991@Europa.office
Re: Avoid POP3
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 11:42:58AM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > >But that's what IMAP is for. POP is specifically designed as a > >temporary holding area (like a Post Office Box). > > > >> There are some way to read the mails from POP3 account without > >>download...maybe a gateway to IMAP...some idea? > > > >Who goes to the Post Office, reads their mail and then puts it > >back in the PO Box? POP is aptly named. > > Actually, I've been known to :-) [most of my mail goes to a PO Box > - usually I make a trip to pick it up, but there are times where > I'll be walking by the post office, take a quick look for anything > important, and leave the bulk of stuff to deal with at another time] > Likewise. I also sometimes ignore mail I don't want to open. Recently, I found a large check hidden under one of those "someday later" mails. > re. electronic mail: I'm all IMAP now, but if you're stuck with a > POP only account, it's fairly common to read mail from multiple > machines (say a laptop, smartphone, and desktop), but want to > download and retain it on only one machine (e.g., one's desktop) > There was a great windows program for checking a POP3 box. POP3 ScanMail. It allowed one to check their box headers, read selected mails in plain text, download as a file, set all the flags for deletion, new, read, unread. The OP may be interested. It is still around, although I wonder what kind of development/support it has because it was neglected when I was on Win98. Of course, most of these Linux CLI clients we use now were originally used to browse POP3 boxes from shell accounts in the day. -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110518022920.GA24285@Deneb.office
Re: Poll Summary & Poll 1b - What Smartphone do you use?
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 09:48:23PM -0700, giovanni_re wrote: . . . > = > = Poll 1b: 3 Additional Poll questions now: > Age, Programming years, Debian years > > As I was reading over the poll responses, I thought > "It would be useful to know something about the smartphone users. > Specifically, in years: > 1) How old are you? > 2) How many years ago did you 1st program a computer? 0 to #, > or N=Never > 3) How many years ago did you 1st install a debian system? 0 to #, > or N=Never " > . . . > = > OK: What Smartphone do you use? > Manufacturer name, Model name, OS name, Cell Carrier name, Country you > live in. Treo, Palm, Verizon, US. I still hate it after 4 years. > What is the # of years in your Age, Programming, Debian? 50-something, 0, 7 P.S. The Treo, a replacement already, lost its screen since the last pole. :) I checked the cable but cleaning connections didn't fix it. Rather than spend money on new parts, or a new contract with Verizon over new equipment, I went to a second-hand electronics store and bought the cheapest Verizon phone I could find with a good battery and switched my number to it. I am putting all the phone budget I can toward a simmed Android, I think. And I'll get some Debian going on it. -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110518020709.GA13970@Deneb.office
Re: backports updates
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 02:47:30PM -0700, evenso wrote: > On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 02:05:29PM -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: > > According to the backports instructions site in order to get updates in > > Lenny it's necessary to add pinning. There's another statement that > > this isn't required for Squeeze. Does Squeeze backports get updated > > along with the other repos via "apt-get update"? > > > > My squeeze-backports priority drops to 100 without pinning, while squeeze is > 990--apparently the /etc/apt/apt.conf Default-Release setting. > > I believe 990 is necessary to prioritize a package above an equal version of > the target release or the installed version. > P.S. I took out /etc/apt/apt.conf to double check. squeeze-backports remains at 100 but squeeze drops down to 500. -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110515215100.GB3375@Deneb.office
Re: backports updates
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 02:05:29PM -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: > According to the backports instructions site in order to get updates in > Lenny it's necessary to add pinning. There's another statement that > this isn't required for Squeeze. Does Squeeze backports get updated > along with the other repos via "apt-get update"? > My squeeze-backports priority drops to 100 without pinning, while squeeze is 990--apparently the /etc/apt/apt.conf Default-Release setting. I believe 990 is necessary to prioritize a package above an equal version of the target release or the installed version. -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110515214730.GA3375@Deneb.office
Re: how do i report a bug in reportbug ?
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 10:27:58AM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > On 20110514_135701, Freeman wrote: > > On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 05:10:18PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: . . . > > I like the gui on reportbug-ng. Speeds things up over reportbug IMHO. Also > > uses color coding nicely for clarity. > > > > Still works. :) > > The situation that I was experiencing was seg fault or FP exception > during execution of reportbug with my report never being transmitted. > > I discovered the problem when I was trying to report a wish that > others might consider trivial, and I have not actually found time to > revisit reporting it. I realized that some day I might actually need > help on something that was important to me, and I should prepare for > that day. > > People have different perceptions of color. For me, the standard > Debian choices for ls, mutt, and aptitude, don't really work. > Without some adjustments in gnome-terminal preferences, I can not > read much important detail on the screen at all. And the changes > needed are different for each of the three. so I have four > gnome-terminal profiles, Default, aptitude, ls, and mutt. Sometimes > I pipe ls output through less just to quickly get rid of the > coloring. And, yes, it would be silly for me to advocate that > others adopt my color perception system. Actually, if you haven't, you might look at reportbug-ng. The color coding of bug levels is configurable, which might be helpful for you. The general display is html. Maybe it uses the default web browser and its gui settings? No python probs. Uses Qt. P.S. Looks like I have to prepare for visual access probs in the future. (Pun intended.) Wasn't happy to get the news on that. Then again, a lit screen, well adjusted, might make some things clearer. -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110515194128.GA3867@Deneb.office
Re: how do i report a bug in reportbug ?
On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 05:10:18PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > I tried to use reportbug to report a bug (wishlist) in approx. I > didn't succeed because first i got a segmentation fault and on second > try i got floating point exception. My computer is running Squeeze > i386 and so far as I know the installation is totally unexceptional > result of using businesscard pointed to an approx server that points > to ftp.us.debian.org . > > It appears to be a python problem. I don't know python at all. I have, > in the past, successfully followed instructions to submit debug > information. but debug reportbug??? I need help. > I like the gui on reportbug-ng. Speeds things up over reportbug IMHO. Also uses color coding nicely for clarity. Still works. :) -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110514205701.GA23594@Deneb.office
Re: Fwd: Re: [OT] Re: Defending yourself
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 02:15:55PM -0700, evenso wrote: > On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 11:24:30PM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > On 2011-05-11 17:35:20 Freeman wrote: > > >On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 08:30:49PM +, Camaleón wrote: > > >> On Wed, 11 May 2011 11:55:48 -0700, Jeroen van Aart wrote: > > >> > Lisi wrote: > > >> >> It is list policy not to send private replies to list mail. And I > > >> >> thought that it was rude of you to email me privately, not to mention > > >> >> unpleasant. > > >> > > > >> > What you say is untrue. The code of conduct clearly states the > > >> > following: > > >> > > > >> > http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct > > >> > > > >> > "Do not quote messages that were sent to you by other people in private > > >> > mail, unless agreed beforehand." > > >> > > >> IMHO, that rule lacks the following preface: "Should a user states his/ > > >> her desire to keep a private conversation..." > > > > > >+1 > > > > -1 > > > > >Unless the user states that it is a private email, or it is obviously > > >discrete, the most expeditious thing is to forward it to the list. > > > > It's nearly impossible to infer whether the sender meant the message to be > > private or not. > > Judgement doesn't have anything to do with it? > > An email containing > > only information, > pertaining to a thread in progress, > from a _public_ list, > > that does _not_ contain > > extreme opinions, > personal information or comments, > glaring errors, > > belongs on the list. > > The sole stated purpose of the list and the reason users registers is > information for public use. > > There is an element of trust in placing your email address on a public > list. There is a policy in place to further respect for that trust. > > There is an element of misaddressed emails. I did it and I use mutt with > Mail-FollowUp-To: enabled. I also sent a private apology when I saw what > happened. > > >Making the reply public and cause significant and > > irreversible damage. Whereas, keeping the reply private causes, at most, > > temporary and reversible damage. > > I've only reposted one of the private emails that shows up from the list. I > understand that some are just being friendly and, lord knows, I can use all > the friends I can get. (Especially being a minnow out of water in the big > tank.) > > I reposted it with the disclaimer on top: "Assuming this was intended for > the list." > > That disclaimer came from occasional examples on the list. The only issue > arisen until now is the reverse: users aggravated at private mail sent to > their INBOX. > > When private email was not a friendly comment, and would have been > embarrassing > or revealing, I simply sent scathing email back privately--actually, just > instructive, stating policy. > > I am under the impression that it is not just a policy but a point of > netiquette. > > Nevertheless, there is nothing wrong with the assumption that list users > have read the policy. In fact that may be the best enforcement of list > policy. > > > > > Replies to private messages should be kept private. It is easy enough to > > prompt the sender to use the list for future correspondence and > > simultaneously > > give you permissions for your private message to be quoted in a public > > forum. > > Everything is easy enough until it gets added to a busy day. =:0 > > A piece of a progressing public discussion has no business in my INBOX. I > don't really want a back-and forth regarding its purpose or the possibly > result of a late posting to the thread. > > In registering I trusted my fellow users not to use my email address on a > whim. > > Being respectful of others can be an absolute without abdicating judgement. > > If there is nothing personal in an inappropriate email--only information and > points of view--and there is a possibility that it is misaddressed, putting > it where it belongs with appropriate disclaimer is practical. > > Yes, there are people with bad judgement. And once they convince us to > eliminating judgement from all solutions, we will have completed our > transition into cyborgs. > P.S. I've reread the code of conduct. A shocker to me: it doesn't address private emails. I must have taken the item stating don't Cc: OPs to
Re: Fwd: Re: [OT] Re: Defending yourself
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 11:24:30PM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > On 2011-05-11 17:35:20 Freeman wrote: > >On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 08:30:49PM +, Camaleón wrote: > >> On Wed, 11 May 2011 11:55:48 -0700, Jeroen van Aart wrote: > >> > Lisi wrote: > >> >> It is list policy not to send private replies to list mail. And I > >> >> thought that it was rude of you to email me privately, not to mention > >> >> unpleasant. > >> > > >> > What you say is untrue. The code of conduct clearly states the > >> > following: > >> > > >> > http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct > >> > > >> > "Do not quote messages that were sent to you by other people in private > >> > mail, unless agreed beforehand." > >> > >> IMHO, that rule lacks the following preface: "Should a user states his/ > >> her desire to keep a private conversation..." > > > >+1 > > -1 > > >Unless the user states that it is a private email, or it is obviously > >discrete, the most expeditious thing is to forward it to the list. > > It's nearly impossible to infer whether the sender meant the message to be > private or not. Judgement doesn't have anything to do with it? An email containing only information, pertaining to a thread in progress, from a _public_ list, that does _not_ contain extreme opinions, personal information or comments, glaring errors, belongs on the list. The sole stated purpose of the list and the reason users registers is information for public use. There is an element of trust in placing your email address on a public list. There is a policy in place to further respect for that trust. There is an element of misaddressed emails. I did it and I use mutt with Mail-FollowUp-To: enabled. I also sent a private apology when I saw what happened. >Making the reply public and cause significant and > irreversible damage. Whereas, keeping the reply private causes, at most, > temporary and reversible damage. I've only reposted one of the private emails that shows up from the list. I understand that some are just being friendly and, lord knows, I can use all the friends I can get. (Especially being a minnow out of water in the big tank.) I reposted it with the disclaimer on top: "Assuming this was intended for the list." That disclaimer came from occasional examples on the list. The only issue arisen until now is the reverse: users aggravated at private mail sent to their INBOX. When private email was not a friendly comment, and would have been embarrassing or revealing, I simply sent scathing email back privately--actually, just instructive, stating policy. I am under the impression that it is not just a policy but a point of netiquette. Nevertheless, there is nothing wrong with the assumption that list users have read the policy. In fact that may be the best enforcement of list policy. > > Replies to private messages should be kept private. It is easy enough to > prompt the sender to use the list for future correspondence and > simultaneously > give you permissions for your private message to be quoted in a public forum. Everything is easy enough until it gets added to a busy day. =:0 A piece of a progressing public discussion has no business in my INBOX. I don't really want a back-and forth regarding its purpose or the possibly result of a late posting to the thread. In registering I trusted my fellow users not to use my email address on a whim. Being respectful of others can be an absolute without abdicating judgement. If there is nothing personal in an inappropriate email--only information and points of view--and there is a possibility that it is misaddressed, putting it where it belongs with appropriate disclaimer is practical. Yes, there are people with bad judgement. And once they convince us to eliminating judgement from all solutions, we will have completed our transition into cyborgs. -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110512211555.GA15109@Europa.office
Re: Fwd: Re: [OT] Re: Defending yourself
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 04:54:05PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 05/11/2011 06:40 AM, consul tores wrote: > [snip] > > > >Could you please explain which concept of "terrorists" are you referring to? > >Real or political? > > > > Do any terrorists have (in the broad sense of the term) non-political aims. > > -- > "Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure > the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally > corrupt." > Samuel Adams, essay in The Public Advertiser, 1749 > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a > subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4dcb057d.2050...@cox.net > In the end, after decades of observing terrorists as they change from one cause and culture to another, after meeting two or three known "terrorists," and after discussions with terrorist supporters (possibly terrorist not disclosing) I am left with my original impression from high school days. That is, terrorists are primarily in the business of being terrorists. Although they may be too far into rage to see it themselves, politics is the secondary consideration and/or rational. Although politics may have created the environment spawning the love of terror. So that might include some spammers, on the lighter, disruptive rather than violent, end of the terror spectrum. -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110511224702.GB16659@Europa.office
Re: Fwd: Re: [OT] Re: Defending yourself
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 08:30:49PM +, Camaleón wrote: > On Wed, 11 May 2011 11:55:48 -0700, Jeroen van Aart wrote: > > > Lisi wrote: > >> It is list policy not to send private replies to list mail. And I > >> thought that it was rude of you to email me privately, not to mention > >> unpleasant. > > > > What you say is untrue. The code of conduct clearly states the > > following: > > > > http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct > > > > "Do not quote messages that were sent to you by other people in private > > mail, unless agreed beforehand." > > IMHO, that rule lacks the following preface: "Should a user states his/ > her desire to keep a private conversation..." > +1 Unless the user states that it is a private email, or it is obviously discrete, the most expeditious thing is to forward it to the list. > > I did not agree beforehand for you to quote my message. > > As a rule of thumb I always *reply* to the list and *resend* to the list > all the messages I receive, unless: > > 1/ I know beforehand the person is replying me and can easily see the > user wants to go private. > > 2/ The own nature of the message (i.e., it contains sensitive data). > > 3/ The user that replies to me *explicitly* states that he/she wants to > keep an off-list conversation. > > > It would be kind of you to apologise. > I don't see the point. Given the choice of either assuming you simply misaddressed or assuming you didn't bother reading list policy, why assume the latter? The former seems more respectful. > I hope you also did so when you sent the message to Lisi... > > > It is generally considered bad > > nettiquette to send private emails to a mailing list and this list does > > not appear to be an exception. > > No, it's the opposite. It is also nettiquette to read list policy. > > > In addition when replying the person's private email is copied in the > > "To:" not the list's address. In my experience this generally means a > > conscious decision was made to encourage replies to go to the individual > > instead of the list. > > Sadly, that's not true at all. > > There are plenty of "broken" webmail services (i.e., Gmail) that by > default reply to the user's e-mail address instead to the e-mail address > of the mailing list and the user is not aware of this fact. > ergo the Mail-Followup-To: header. -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110511223520.GA16659@Europa.office
Re: Defending yourself
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 02:47:40PM -0700, Jeroen van Aart wrote: ... > I'd gladly volunteer and take over administration of this list in > order to help prevent its abuse and make sure it runs as smoothly as > possible. > I'd also make available resources, for free, in order to run it, if > necessary. http://www.debian.org/devel/join/ http://www.debian.org/intro/help http://lists.debian.org/devel.html -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110510223821.GA6233@Europa.office
Re: I am not receiving my discussion mail.
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 08:53:14PM +0530, Narendra Sisodiya wrote: > Please reply me, let me test, whether I am getting reply of email or not.. > Compare your INBOX to http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2011/05/thrd2.html -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110510214940.GA15003@Europa.office
Re: Trying to reinstall exim4
On Sun, May 08, 2011 at 05:55:27PM -0700, Carl Johnson wrote: > I was trying out postfix but I was unable to get it working the way I > wanted, so I tried to purge postfix and reinstall exim4. I used > aptitude to select postfix to purge and to install exim4, exim4-base, > exim4-config, and exim4-daemon-light. It seems to accept the > selections, but when it actually tries to install it, it gives the error > message: > > E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'exim4'. Please see > man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2) > > I dropped the statement 'APT::Immediate-Configure "off";' into a file > in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d, but it still won't install exim4. Does anybody > have any idea what I am doing wrong, and what I can do to install exim? > I am running this on a squeeze system. > > Thanks for any ideas. What happens when you run # dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config ? -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110509185016.GA8063@Europa.office
Re: Need /etc/apt/sources.list
nd.com/linux/debian/rep/ # deb http://debian.replica9000.net/ unstable main beta # deb-src http://debian.replica9000.net/ unstable main beta # Logilab Debian Repository - # http://www.logilab.org/card/LogilabDebianRepository?vtitle=Logilab%20Debian%20Repository # Debian Sid # deb http://ftp.logilab.org/dists sid/ # Debian Squeeze # deb http://ftp.logilab.org/dists squeeze/ # Debian Lenny # deb http://ftp.logilab.org/dists lenny/ # Jens' unofficial debian-repository for the Code::Blocks - IDE - # http://apt.jenslody.de/ #Secure APT - apt-get install jens-lody-debian-keyring #deb http://apt.jenslody.de/ any main #deb-src http://apt.jenslody.de/ any main # wxWidgets/wxPython repository at apt.wxwidgets.org # Secure APT - wget -q http://apt.wxwidgets.org/key.asc -O- | apt-key add # - #deb http://apt.wxwidgets.org/ lenny-wx main #deb-src http://apt.wxwidgets.org/ lenny-wx main # NTP-Dev Debian Package Repository - http://packages.ntp.org/debian/ # Secure APt - gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-key 2260E098 # gpg --armor --export 2260E098 | apt-key add - # deb http://packages.ntp.org/debian lenny main # deb-src http://packages.ntp.org/debian lenny main # http://cairographics.org/download/ #deb http://cairographics.org/packages/debian/ unstable/ #deb-src http://cairographics.org/packages/debian/ unstable/ # current development Cairo snapshots: #deb http://cairographics.org/packages/debian/ experimental/ #deb-src http://cairographics.org/packages/debian/ experimental/ # jEdit - Programmer's Text Editor - download - # http://www.jedit.org/index.php?page=download # JEdit is in the Debian unstable repo. # deb http://switch.dl.sourceforge.net/project/jedit / # Joey Hess's bleeding edge repository ( only contains a few new packages) # deb http://kitenet.net/~joey/debian/unstable/ ./ # Ekiga snapshot http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Snapshots #deb http://snapshots.ekiga.net/snapshots/debian/ ./ # Esmska - http://code.google.com/p/esmska/ #Secure APT - wget -q -O - http://repo.palatinus.cz/repo.key | apt-key add #- #deb http://repo.palatinus.cz/stable / # Phoronix Test Suite #deb http://www.phoronix-test-suite.com/releases/repo pts.debian/ # OpenedHand Debian/Ubuntu Packages http://debian.o-hand.com/ # deb http://debian.o-hand.com unstable/ # Unofficial Maintainers http://unofficial.debian-maintainers.org/ # Secure APT - apt-get install dmo-archive-keyring # Unofficial Maintainers (lenny/stable releases) #deb http://unofficial.debian-maintainers.org/ lenny main contrib non-free # restricted #deb-src http://unofficial.debian-maintainers.org/ lenny main contrib # non-free restricted # Unofficial Maintainers (squeeze/testing releases) # Note: This repository is not yet populated. # deb http://unofficial.debian-maintainers.org/ squeeze main contrib # non-free restricted # deb-src http://unofficial.debian-maintainers.org/ squeeze main contrib # non-free restricted # Unofficial Maintainers (sid/unstable releases) #deb http://unofficial.debian-maintainers.org/ sid main contrib non-free # restricted #deb-src http://unofficial.debian-maintainers.org/ sid main contrib non-free # restricted # Frostwire http://apt.debianchile.org/frostwire/ #deb http://apt.debianchile.org/frostwire version main #deb-src http://apt.debianchile.org/frostwire version main #Twitim is a Twitter client for GNOME http://code.google.com/p/twitim/ # deb http://www.tsurukawa.org/debian/ ./ # http://www.nanolx.org/index.php #deb http://www.nanolx.org/apt/ speedwave main #deb-src http://www.nanolx.org/apt/ speedwave main #gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-key 22455895 #gpg --armor --export 22455895 | sudo apt-key add - # Orange - Data Mining Fruitful & Fun - http://www.ailab.si/orange/ # deb http://www.ailab.si/orange/debian lenny main # deb-src http://www.ailab.si/orange/debian lenny main # Unofficial Debian packages from Kirya.net http://packages.kirya.net/ # wget -O - # http://packages.kirya.net/Kirya.netDebianpackagesVerificationKey.asc | # apt-key add - #Stable/Lenny #deb http://packages.kirya.net/debian/ lenny main contrib non-free #deb-src http://packages.kirya.net/debian/ lenny main contrib non-free # Unstable #deb http://packages.kirya.net/debian/ sid main contrib non-free #deb-src http://packages.kirya.net/debian/ sid main contrib non-free -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110507045001.GA5362@Europa.office
Re: Elegant and Amazing Apps
On Fri, May 06, 2011 at 11:00:49AM +, Camaleón wrote: > On Thu, 05 May 2011 20:18:25 -0700, David wrote: > > > I may be out of the loop on this. But I just discovered kupfer and was > > duly impressed. > > > > I generally stay away from launchers because, with the exception of > > gmrun, I find them over-stuffed and awkward. > > > > Although I can't get kupfer completely working in openbox (I am > > perfectly happy with gmrun and a long .gmrunrc file there) it is an > > amazing addition to Gnome. Puts Gnome-do to shame--as far as I can > > remember. > > > > It is fast, highly intuitive, out of the way, very configurable with > > about 89 plugins, easy to learn, gives great visual feedback to input, > > can launch or find just about anything, looks good. > > > > Any other recommendations for amazing apps that reduce work with > > elegance? > > If you find useful those tools I think you'll like the upcoming "gnome- > shell" :-P > > I'm more used to a menu-like-tree static-way system to find files, apps > and interact with them so besides "gnome-do", "docky" and "avant window > navigator" I don't know of any other launchers :-? > I am also menu-esque. It's a wait-and-see, but I am already preparing to move completely into openbox, where my menu has years of growth, when escaping Gnome 3. I actually ran into kupfer while looking for more openbox compatible apps. The Gnome 2 fork project, EXDE, is dead before it got started. :) http://www.exde.org/ I am not an XFCE fan although I agree it is closest to Gnome 2 and a reliable, well designed desktop. But kupfer is a useful addition to a menu driven desktop. On URLs or bookmarks for example, hit a keyboard shortcut, start typing a site, filename, path or address, have it completed, and hit enter to go there with the appropriate client. Saves some clicks and seconds. Out of all the configs in kupfer, most users should likely find some chore expedited on their system. Also there is a separate history and favs file (down arrow) that is less obvious than browser and document histories, were one concerned about casual discoveries, since kupfer doesn't have to be on the menu or in the tray. -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110506202630.GB24460@Europa.office
Re: Poll - What Smartphone do you use?
On Fri, May 06, 2011 at 01:45:38AM -0400, shawn wilson wrote: > On May 5, 2011 11:19 PM, "Freeman" wrote: > > > > On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 08:35:39PM -0700, giovanni_re wrote: > > > > > > = > > > So, today's poll is: > > > > > > What Smartphone do you use? > > > > > > > Android maybe just got a few points against it in my estimation. > > > > Ya know, I see commercials when I surf the web, solicitations in my mailbox, > and crap on the news. I try to scrutinize what I see as much as possible. > > The point is that Google put Android out as an open source mobile operating > system (great marketing). This is sorta true - there's an open source kernel > and components. However, this ain't linux, bsd, xfree86 or anything else you > might think of as floss. > > It would be sorta dickish to say 'you don't have to use it' and sorta untrue > (Android has most of the smartphone market in the us and soon the world, so > you'll probably run into Android like Windows on a pc). Instead, I would > advise that you look at your options. I moved from a flip phone to a palm to > an iPhone to an Android. I never thought that any of them would be open. > Maybe next I'll get a windows phone - that's as open as Android imo. > > Ps - how is Android related to debian anyway?... just curious if this is > still topical. Well, there are discussions about bash and nano on d-community-offto...@lists.debian.org . So maybe we are going to do a polar reversal like the magnetic poles of Earth have occasionally done. -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110506194416.GA24460@Europa.office
Re: Poll - What Smartphone do you use?
On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 08:35:39PM -0700, giovanni_re wrote: > Isn't it great to get to know your Debian community members, & things > about them, like what kind of stuff they use? Maybe that would be good > stuff for _you_ to get at some point. :) > > > = > So, today's poll is: > > What Smartphone do you use? > Android maybe just got a few points against it in my estimation. http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/05/03/2335254/Google-Allows-Carriers-To-Ban-Tethering-Apps?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Slashdot%2Fslashdot+%28Slashdot%29>Google Allows Carriers to Ban Tethering Apps -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110504020130.GA22540@Europa.office
Re: Poll - What Smartphone do you use?
On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 08:35:39PM -0700, giovanni_re wrote: > Isn't it great to get to know your Debian community members, & things > about them, like what kind of stuff they use? Maybe that would be good > stuff for _you_ to get at some point. :) > > > = > So, today's poll is: > > What Smartphone do you use? > > Please reply to this message with: > > Manufacturer name Model name, OS name, Cell Carrier name, Country you > live in. > > > = > For example, I'll start first: > Samsung Intercept, Android (Debian I Wish - DIW), Virgin Mobil > (=Sprint), USA. > > > = > So, what Smartphone do _you_ use? > > Treo, Palm, Verizon, US. I still hate it after 4 years. Kept it for the 2 year contract. Then started waiting for the right Android so I could have Debian and because some of my favorite apps authors actually anticipated the Palm-to-Android conversion and for helpers for it. I started with Palm at the beginning and bought smart phones loaded with Palm from the outset. Had a really good one from Verizon, so I upgraded to the Treo when it died and began years of disappointment. Now I want a simmed phone with no contract to boot at a price that seems reasonable for carrying a highly breakable electronic distraction in my pocket. Furthermore, legal issues are dawning. There is a case going into the Oregon Supreme Court regarding search and seizure of cell phones by police. Some people point out that much of their most valuable communications records, browsing records, travel records and more are on their pocket rather than in their home. Yet their smartphones are hard to impossible to secure while being more subject to searches. This issue will eventually reach the U.S. Supreme Court. However, by then, the technological specifics of the issues may be obsolete and already replaced by new ones. I am thinking of moving to the simplest, cheapest thing that is dependable and allows one to turn off tracking--dumping even texting! I have no idea what that is. -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110503201935.GB21288@Europa.office
Re: Tripwire can't send report by email??????
On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 04:47:39PM +, Camaleón wrote: > On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 16:28:09 +, Cedric DC wrote: > > >> 1/ Instruct tripwire to use a real e-mail sender (whether possible) > > I have read the "man tripwire". It's not possible to specify the > > sender email address. > > Recheck "man 8 tripwire" (test mode), it seems you can configure some e- > mailing options... > > > > 2/ Configure your MTA/MDA to go out with a real/routeable e-mail > > > address. > > I try to translate the email address @proxy by @mydomain.com > > > >> I had in the file /etc/exim4.conf.template this one and restart exim4 > > # TEST > > *@*proxytest* $1...@mydomain.com > > > > And it's doesn't work > > Exim (which I hardly know) is a bit "sui-generis", there are some pre- > configuration options that setup the daemon to act differently (as > smarthost, localhost...), maybe someone in the know can give you more > accurate steps to properly set it up. > I wouldn't call myself "in the know," but I run Exim4. An ISP's SMTP server would be a smarthost. Smarthost is the SMTP server that mail is sent to by localhost for delivery elsewhere. This is to prevent mail sent directly by the localhost SMTP from being rejected for a dynamic IP address. -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110426182252.GA19491@Europa.office
Re: Tripwire can't send report by email??
On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 07:28:42AM +, Cedric DC wrote: > > Hello, > > I repost my question because I don't have posted it in the right way. I'm > sorry, it's my first post in the Debian mailing list. > > I have setup tripwire on a Debian 6. I have tripwire integrity reports (pwr > files) in the directory /var/lib/tripwire/report/ > With the following command I can read the report. > twprint --print-report --twrfile proxytest-20110421-135326.twr > test-log > > I would like send the report by email. > . . . To Cedric regarding email that may have been intended as a list reply: I think the safest way to edit Exim4 configs to mask the local domain would be to run # dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config Since Exim4 is behaving as you would like otherwise, "OK" through all the options until you hit "Hide local mail name in outgoing mail?" Then hit yes and enter the domain.xxx you want mail to be ostensibly sent from. Then continue as before. You can cancel out if anything goes amiss. Probably a good idea to think through the ramifications this might have on any existing email configurations. -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110425185534.GA18536@Europa.office
Re: Tripwire can't send report by email
On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 07:45:37AM +, Cedric DC wrote: > > I don't find how to change this "" by a FQDN the > > If I try to launch hostname -v, I have the FQDN of my server. > root@proxytest:/etc/tripwire# hostname -f > proxytest.subdomain.mydomain.com > > Can I specify the "From address" in twcfg.txt ? > root@proxytest:/etc/tripwire# hostname -f > proxytest.intra.ville-issy.fr > > Here my twcfg.txt file > > root@proxytest:/etc/tripwire# more twcfg.txt > ROOT =/usr/sbin > POLFILE =/etc/tripwire/tw.pol > DBFILE=/var/lib/tripwire/$(HOSTNAME).twd > REPORTFILE=/var/lib/tripwire/report/$(HOSTNAME)-$(DATE).twr > SITEKEYFILE =/etc/tripwire/site.key > LOCALKEYFILE =/etc/tripwire/$(HOSTNAME)-local.key > EDITOR=/usr/bin/editor > LATEPROMPTING =false > LOOSEDIRECTORYCHECKING =false > MAILNOVIOLATIONS =true > EMAILREPORTLEVEL =3 > REPORTLEVEL =3 > SYSLOGREPORTING =true > MAILMETHOD=SMTP > SMTPHOST =localhost > #SMTPHOST =smtp.altitudetelecom.fr > SMTPPORT =25 > Can you send other mail successfully from this machine through smtp.altitudetelecom.fr using your MTA (maybe exim4?)? -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110424193617.GA10280@Deneb.office
Re: Tripwire can't send report by email?
On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 02:21:01PM -0700, evenso wrote: > It is far more appropriate to ask your question with a new thread rather > than piggy back a question onto someone else's question. > > You can ask your own question by addressing your mail to > > debian-user@lists.debian.org > > with a > > Subject: > > Don't use Cc: or address to any individuals. > P.S. Oh, maybe your hotmail address is getting bounced. -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110423212531.GC4977@Europa.office
Re: Tripwire can't send report by email?
On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 08:18:50PM +, Cedric DC wrote: > > Hello, > > I have setup tripwire on a Debian 6. I have tripwire integrity reports (pwr > files) in the directory /var/lib/tripwire/report/ > With the following command I can read the report. > twprint --print-report --twrfile proxytest-20110421-135326.twr > test-log > > I would like send the report by email. > > In the file /etc/cron.daily/tripwire > there is the command tripwire --check --quiet --email-report > > If I try to launch this in command line I have this message : > root@proxytest:/etc/cron.daily# /usr/sbin/tripwire --test --email > t...@mydomain.com > Sending a test message to: t...@mydomain.com > ### Error: The SMTP server returned an error. > ### Error Number:504 5.5.2 : Sender address rejected: need > ### fully-qualified address > ### Exiting... > Email test failed. > > proxytest is the hostname of my server > > Do you have an idea to solve this issue ? > I > tried to change in the twcfg the variable SMTPHOST by > smtp.altitudetelecom.fr (my ISP SMTP relay) instead of localhost. But it > doesn't work... > > Thank you in advance for your help. > It is far more appropriate to ask your question with a new thread rather than piggy back a question onto someone else's question. You can ask your own question by addressing your mail to debian-user@lists.debian.org with a Subject: Don't use Cc: or address to any individuals. -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110423212101.GB4977@Europa.office
Re: I don't want mrxvt to consume the Alt + keystrokes
On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 01:24:40AM +0530, Disc Magnet wrote: > I run irssi on mrxvt. When I press Alt+1, Alt+2, etc. it changes mrxvt > tab and not the irssi win. > > How can I configure mrxvt such that it does not consume the Alt > key-stroke. It also intereferes with emacs style Alt+ > keystroke for repeating command that readline can understand. > > So, please help me to configure mrxvt such that it does not consume > the Alt keystroke? > The key bindings are in the GNOME TERMINAL STYLE DEFAULT MACROS section of the /etc/mrxvt/mrxvtrc , they are the "GotoTab _" macros. I don't have such a section in my home directory .mrxvtrc . You could edit the /etc/mrxvt/mrxvtrc as root or you could probably override it by copying the relevant section to an .mrxvtrc in your home directory and edit there. Haven't tried it. -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110423211353.GA4977@Europa.office
Re: Mediawiki extensions for Debian
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 06:51:23PM -0500, John W Foster wrote: > I'm looking for more Mediawiki extensions packaged for Debian..stable > Mediawiki 1.1xxx > > Any suggestions? And of course I know I can install them myself, just > lazy & want to keep the system all Debian. > TIA: > John > > p mediawiki-extensions- Extensions for MediaWiki -- Meta package p mediawiki-extensions-base - Extensions for MediaWiki -- Base package p mediawiki-extensions-collection - Extensions for MediaWiki -- Collection ext p mediawiki-extensions-confirmedi - Extensions for MediaWiki -- ConfirmEdit ex p mediawiki-extensions-fckeditor - Extensions for MediaWiki -- FCKeditor exte p mediawiki-extensions-geshi - Extensions for MediaWiki -- SyntaxHighligh p mediawiki-extensions-graphviz - Extensions for MediaWiki -- GraphViz exten p mediawiki-extensions-ldapauth - Extensions for MediaWiki -- LdapAuthentica p mediawiki-extensions-openid - Extensions for MediaWiki -- OpenID extensi p mediawiki-math - math rendering plugin for MediaWiki p mediawiki-metavidwiki - A MediaWiki extension for associative temp p mediawiki-semediawiki - Semantic MediaWiki helps to organise and s -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110421185411.GA4334@Europa.office
Re: changing my e-mail address
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 10:25:35AM +0200, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > On Sun, 17 Apr 2011, Freeman wrote: > > >Nice skit but there is misinformation in the "what if." The Debian list page > >has a form for unsubscribing/subscribing multiple lists. Confirming a > >subscription/unsubscription is a one-click proportion and would be > >necessary for a address change function too, were there one. > > did you check that? I did it, i.e subscribing for 11 lists: > - I needed not 1 click, but 12 > - after that, I received 11 "confirm" mail requests > - after that, I received 22 acknowledgment mails > !!! > which makes, for subscribe/unsubscribe: 24 clicks, 11 replying mails, > and 66 received mails. > > to compare with Ubuntu, or Firefox > > Changing your support-firefox membership information You can change the > address that you are subscribed to the mailing list with by entering > the new address in the fields below. Note that a confirmation email will > be sent to the new address, and the change must be confirmed before it > is processed. > > Confirmations time out after about 3 days. > > You can also optionally set or change your real name (i.e. John Smith). > > If you want to make the membership changes for all the lists that you are > subscribed to at lists.mozilla.org, turn on the Change globally check box. > ^ > OK, looks like I am unfamiliar with subscribing to multiple lists on a contemporary list server other than list.debian.org. Stuck in the past. Still am delighted with Smartlist. Content with 11 confirmation replies. Even feel assured by the meticulous 22 acknowledgements. What can I say. -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110418201011.GA5964@Europa.office
Re: changing my e-mail address
On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 10:19:30AM -0400, sal migondis wrote: > >>> "how to modify my address without doing unsubscribe/subscribe?" > >> > >> The answer to your question is: unsubscribe the old address. Subscribe > >> the new one. > > That's not what he asked, is it...?!!! > > OP: > > "how do I MODIFY my address WITHOUT doing > unsubscribe/subscribe" > > Wise guy: > > "The answer is... unsubscribe.. subscribe" > > HElloooOO...??? Anybody home...??? > > I took a quick look, and I did not see any way you can > do it. > > And I think this is about as lame as it gets. So basically > you have to fill out the subscription form again, reply to > the email to confirm your subscription... etc. > > Wise guy: > > "That's not too hard" > > Yeah, right.. Imagine for a second the OP is subscribed > to .. TEN.. TWENTY.. different debian mailing lists... > > Or is there a recommendation somewhere that says that > it is foolish to subscribe to more than one (two?) debian > list(s) at the same time... > Nice skit but there is misinformation in the "what if." The Debian list page has a form for unsubscribing/subscribing multiple lists. Confirming a subscription/unsubscription is a one-click proportion and would be necessary for a address change function too, were there one. > The GNU mailing lists for instance have an easy to access > option where you can edit your subscription options, > including specifying a new email address. > Everyone in cyberspace allocates their resources toward the features that meet their unique criteria. Nothing new there. We choose according to the aggregation of features, priories and objectives that fit us best. > > I'm afraid your logic is not mine! > > The correct answer to my question is: "that's not possiblë with debian > > lists" > > Apparently, there are people here who can't read. > > If they cannot provide anything more positive such as > indicating how this situation could be improved, maybe > they should have simply said 'sorry, debian uses lousy > mailing list management software or is not set up properly > and there's nothing our volunteers can do about it.' > Smartlist is great and very Debian. > The latter would probably not make the OP happy, but > I'm sure he would have been OK with that.. and that > answer would certainly be preferable than half a dozen > messages that only show that the their authors did not > even bother to read his post. > It's the weekend. > Maybe the famous 'how to ask smart questions' document > needs to be complemented by 'how to avoid posting dumb > replies'. > Jumping newbies and non-geeks is particularly distasteful in my opinion. -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110417190938.GA1930@Europa.office
[ranging OT] Re: changing my e-mail address
On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 09:44:38PM +0200, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > On Sat, 16 Apr 2011, Freeman wrote: > > >Somewhere between "we don't talk to idiots" (not really) to "you'll figure > >it out," on the one axis; between "I am fighting with my significant other" > >(probably not) to "I got as many of the most important tasks and responses > >done as I could" on the other axis; and between "try, try, try again" (if > >you think it that important) to it's in the queue, on the third axis. > > Only 3 dimensions? You forgot some parallel universes? > Oh, right. Cyberspace, somewhere between "I was tweeting to my constituency," to "who me? I was minimizing my browser anyway when you walked up!" -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110416222915.GA11187@Europa.office
Re: changing my e-mail address
On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 09:25:25AM +0200, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > hi, > I want to change the address used for my subscription to this list. > On other lists, there is generally an option to modify the e-mail address > used for subscribing, but I didn't find that for debian lists. > Otherwise, I can of course unsubscribe, and subscribe with the new one > > PS: what bothers me is that I wrote several times to > listow...@lists.debian.org, > for a problem with bounces and for the present question, > and never got any answer, although they say: > You are welcome to contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > it seems that this address is just managed by a robot... > One of the sticker parts of getting the best OS in the world for free. When the overworked, understaffed, volunteers don't reply to pleas for help, that means: Somewhere between "we don't talk to idiots" (not really) to "you'll figure it out," on the one axis; between "I am fighting with my significant other" (probably not) to "I got as many of the most important tasks and responses done as I could" on the other axis; and between "try, try, try again" (if you think it that important) to it's in the queue, on the third axis. I have always just subscribed my new address, then unsubscribed my old. I don't think there is a change address function. List help reply below: From listmas...@lists.debian.org Sat Apr 16 10:32:51 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: freeman@localhost Delivery-date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 10:32:51 -0700 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=Deneb.office) by deneb.office with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QB9MZ-0003md-3C for freeman@localhost; Sat, 16 Apr 2011 10:32:51 -0700 Delivered-To: hew...@gmail.com Received: from gmail-pop.l.google.com [74.125.155.109] by Deneb.office with POP3 (fetchmail-6.3.18) for (single-drop); Sat, 16 Apr 2011 10:32:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.113.8 with SMTP id iu8cs129886vdb; Sat, 16 Apr 2011 10:31:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.1.69 with SMTP id 45mr1052491eec.7.1302975110242; Sat, 16 Apr 2011 10:31:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from liszt.debian.org (liszt.debian.org [82.195.75.100]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w51si8939981eeh.96.2011.04.16.10.31.49 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 16 Apr 2011 10:31:50 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: manual fallback record for domain of listmas...@lists.debian.org designates 82.195.75.100 as permitted sender) client-ip=82.195.75.100; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: manual fallback record for domain of listmas...@lists.debian.org designates 82.195.75.100 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=listmas...@lists.debian.org Received: by liszt.debian.org (Postfix, from userid 38) id A8B6F13A5418; Sat, 16 Apr 2011 17:31:49 + (UTC) To: hew...@gmail.com From: majord...@lists.debian.org Sender: listmas...@lists.debian.org Subject: Reply to your HELP request In-Reply-To: <20110416173130.GA10071@Deneb.office> References: <20110416173130.GA10071@Deneb.office> Precedence: junk Message-Id: <20110416173149.a8b6f13a5...@liszt.debian.org> Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 17:31:49 + (UTC) Status: RO Content-Length: 1350 Lines: 50 Hi! I'm your MajorSmart! I'm translating Majordomo-like commands to SmartList-commands. Commands are written in the mail body, not in the subject, you've probably already guessed it. The following commands are available. Text in brackets [] are optional. approve Add anybody to the given list. Only valid for list administrators. approve subscribe approve unsubscribe approve who help Send this help text lists Send a comprehensive list of providest mailing list subscribe Add yourself to the given list. subscribe [] unsubscribe Remove yourself from the given list. unsubscribe [] which Return a list of mailing-lists the given address is subscribed to. This command will only be executed if the address queried has some connection to the From: or Reply-To: address. which who Send back a list of who is subscribed to the given list. This will only be done for people who are subscribed to the list. who The commands are not case sensitive. If you experience problems, please discuss them with the Debian listmasters . -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110416174935.GB10071@Deneb.office
File a Bug Against GlobalMenu or Guayadeque?
In Guayadeque 0.2.9, the file menu is not present when gnome globalmenu 0.7.9 packages are installed. How can I decide or diagnose which package has the bug? -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110413210851.GA6539@Deneb.office
Re: New user questions
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 01:38:47PM -0700, Dr. Ed Morbius wrote: > on 10:15 Mon 11 Apr, Michael (mmorse...@gmail.com) wrote: > > I used Debian about four years ago and enjoyed it. The computer I > > had it on died and my wife wouldn't let me put it on our shared > > computer. Well, I have another hand-me-down (laptop) that I've put > > Debian on but am having some issues. > > aptitude upgrade wife is slated for the 10.0 release. > No need for it if you have this: http://en.tiraecol.net/modules/comic/comic.php?content_id=88 > > First, is this the correct newsgroup for such "newbies"? > As advanced as this list may seem, the only other good source of consistent, live info that I know of is http://forums.debian.net. -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110412200323.GA31937@Deneb.office
Re: Disable a service
On Sat, Apr 09, 2011 at 11:05:33AM -1000, Joel Roth wrote: > On Sat, Apr 09, 2011 at 11:04:52AM -0400, Dan wrote: > > Hi, > > I would like to know which is the standard way to disable services. I > > thought that the standard way is just to delete the link of the > > service from rc*.d > > > > For example to disable bluetooth I would just delete the link > > /etc/rc3.d/S20bluetooth that points to ../init.d/bluetooth > > Some may disagree (and I've made this point before) > a standard way to prevent a script from > executing in Unixlike system is to set the > permissions. > > chmod a-x /etc/init.d/bluetooth > > Good enough if it works without issue. But I am a little curious about your definition of "a standard." -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110409214132.GA8214@Deneb.office
Re: Disable a service
On Sat, Apr 09, 2011 at 01:27:18PM -0400, Dan wrote: > On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Camaleón wrote: > > On Sat, 09 Apr 2011 11:04:52 -0400, Dan wrote: > > > >> I would like to know which is the standard way to disable services. I > >> thought that the standard way is just to delete the link of the service > >> from rc*.d > > > > I wondered the same in this thread: > > > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2010/12/msg00424.html > > > > (that was a very interesting thread were people pointed out several ways > > to achieve the same goal) > > > >> For example to disable bluetooth I would just delete the link > >> /etc/rc3.d/S20bluetooth that points to ../init.d/bluetooth > >> > >> But then I used service manager from gnome to disable bluetooth. It > >> disabled the service but it didn't delete the link. So I guess that > >> there is a standard procedure to disable the service without deleting > >> the link. Which is that procedure? > > > > I finally disabled the service by issuing "update-rc.d service_name > > disable". Full story here: > > > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2010/12/msg00505.html > > > > update-rc.d disable seems to be the best way. It renames the service > so that it starts with K instead with S. But I still do not know how > the gnome service manager is able to disable the service. It does not > make any change in the links in rc*.d and it does not make any change > in /etc/default/bluetooth > I have an Admin menu item called services that starts "services-admin," and X app that shows all the init.d services. Is this what you are referring to? There is a check box list of services. However, if I right click on the listed service, I get a dialog box. There I can authenticate as root, then click on Status to change between start, stop and ignore, or Priority to edit the priotiry. This does edit the rc*.d links. -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110409202854.GA2826@Deneb.office
Re: Ubuntu Versions
On Tue, Apr 05, 2011 at 06:15:26PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/05/2011 05:37 PM, Mark wrote: > [snip] > >upgrading. For all its flaws, one nice thing about Windows is that it > >has a 10-year (14-year for XP) support cycle, so while there may be > >service packs, etc., to the end user, the interface is virtually the > >same for 10 years. I realize that not upgrading/getting more > >goodies/etc. is not the preference of most people on the list, but for > >some Debian users it might be. It's an "if it ain't broke, don't fix > >it" type thing. > > > > You need to mention that to GNOME. Not that they'd list. "We're > the experts. We know best." > I installed the gnome-shell package a year or so ago and have yet to look at it. It wants upgraded in experimental but that isn't going to happen from my now stable system. I may be switching to Openbox when the time comes. -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110406001141.GB4802@Europa.office
Re: Ubuntu Versions (was: Re: Let's say you never want to upgrade from Lenny...)
On Tue, Apr 05, 2011 at 03:37:16PM -0700, Mark wrote: > On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Freeman wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 05, 2011 at 03:03:41PM -0400, Matt Harrison wrote: > > > > > > > > All fine pointshere you go: > > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > > > > > > > > > As regards Debian users, the pros and cons of another distro vis-a-vis > > their > > system is legit. > > > > As regards Ubuntu users seeking Debian advice, I think they should > > establish > > a debuntu-users list. But that is irrelevant to this thread. > > > > Well, there is no interest in me or the people I provide support for, to > move to Ubuntu, although I can see where this conversation would have merit > to someone. I received a few responses answering my original question, so > thank you for those. Guess the way to go is with upgrading. For all its > flaws, one nice thing about Windows is that it has a 10-year (14-year for > XP) support cycle, so while there may be service packs, etc., to the end > user, the interface is virtually the same for 10 years. I realize that not > upgrading/getting more goodies/etc. is not the preference of most people on > the list, but for some Debian users it might be. It's an "if it ain't > broke, don't fix it" type thing. > I am feeling your pain. :( After 1.5 testing cycles, I have tried to follow squeeze into stable. But now I am remembering that my testing cycle idea was to have a sort of rolling release. I would put off upgrades of touchy sounding packages until I was sure of negotiating a good outcome. I would store versions with apt-cacher so I wouldn't have to go looking for packages to back out of problems. I wouldn't let myself feel inclined to immediately upgrade everything that presented. But I still hit bumps in the road with my old Radeon and some sound issues. I still found myself under upgrade pressure from the shear number of packages migrating to testing. I still had to analyze dependency knots from being spread all over the release schedule. Now I have sid & unstable creeping more and more into my "stable" system that was only suppose to diversify to the extent of stable-updates, backports, multimedia and a few choice packages. If I stay with squeeze to the bitter end, I will have 5 years. But, 2 of them, I spent more time working on my system than using it. And, in 3 years I am looking at a big upgrade, potentially with issues I have become unfamiliar with, and an undetermined learning period, possibly with a switch away from Gnome. My lack of decision on this is netting me a stable system with increasing amounts of sid and unstable, not to mention a little oldstable. -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110405235112.GA4802@Europa.office
Re: Ubuntu Versions (was: Re: Let's say you never want to upgrade from Lenny...)
On Tue, Apr 05, 2011 at 03:03:41PM -0400, Matt Harrison wrote: > On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. > wrote: > > On 2011-04-05 12:24:39 Matt Harrison wrote: > >> > >>Are we seriously going to argue about which version of Ubuntu is > >>supported for how long? > > > > I think it is reasonable to discuss, if a little OT. > > > >>Who cares? > > > > Someone that doesn't necessarily want to upgrade on Debian's schedule. With > > Ubuntu, you can get 5 years, as opposed to Debian's ~3 years. With SLE* you > > can get 10 years. I'm not sure about RHEL, but I think it is roughly a SLE* > > timeframe. > > . . . > > All fine pointshere you go: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users > > As regards Debian users, the pros and cons of another distro vis-a-vis their system is legit. As regards Ubuntu users seeking Debian advice, I think they should establish a debuntu-users list. But that is irrelevant to this thread. -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110405201433.GA11627@Europa.office
Re: Debian was hacked: The Canterbury Distribution
On Fri, Apr 01, 2011 at 10:06:24AM -0400, Frank McCormick wrote: > On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 05:31:33 +0200 > Jerome BENOIT wrote: > > > > > > > On 01/04/11 05:24, Freeman wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 01, 2011 at 05:16:37AM +0200, Jerome BENOIT wrote: > > >> Hello List, > > >> > > >> right now, the Official Debian site seems hacked by The Canterbury > > >> Distribution. > > >> > > >> I guess it is a joke. > > >> > > > > > > 04/01/11 ! > > > > > > > Indeed :-) > > > > >try http://gmail.com/motion > > LOL! -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110401192040.GB10291@Europa.office
Re: Debian was hacked: The Canterbury Distribution
On Fri, Apr 01, 2011 at 05:35:27AM -0700, Kelly Clowers wrote: > On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 20:24, Freeman wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 01, 2011 at 05:16:37AM +0200, Jerome BENOIT wrote: > >> Hello List, > >> > >> right now, the Official Debian site seems hacked by The Canterbury > >> Distribution. > >> > >> I guess it is a joke. > >> > > > > 04/01/11 ! > > January 11th, 2004? huh? > Well, ISO dates are the best. And *all* the cultures of the world are magnificent. But it was, after all, April Fools Day. Just tryin' to be a little coy for the occasion. I figured (correctly) the truth would be quickly outed on this group. -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110401191808.GA10291@Europa.office
Re: Debian was hacked: The Canterbury Distribution
On Fri, Apr 01, 2011 at 05:16:37AM +0200, Jerome BENOIT wrote: > Hello List, > > right now, the Official Debian site seems hacked by The Canterbury > Distribution. > > I guess it is a joke. > 04/01/11 ! -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110401032424.GA7086@Europa.office
Re: aptitude upgrade
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 04:54:36PM -0400, Chris Brennan wrote: > On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Freeman wrote: > > Maybe > > > > apt-cache rdepends --installed apache2 > > > > All this does is list the 4 MPM types repeatedly ... > > [snip] > root@Blackdragon:~# apt-cache rdepends --installed apache2 > ... > apache2-mpm-itk > apache2-mpm-event > apache2-mpm-prefork > apache2-mpm-worker > ... > root@Blackdragon:~# apt-cache rdepends --installed apache2 | wc -l > 543 > root@Blackdragon:~# > freeman@Europa:~$ apt-cache rdepends --installed apache2 | grep -v mpm apache2 Reverse Depends: |javascript-common wwwconfig-common |dwww |javascript-common |dwww |javascript-common |info2www |dwww |dpkg-www -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110331185411.GA5212@Europa.office
Re: aptitude upgrade
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 04:17:52PM -0400, Chris Brennan wrote: > My laptop was off for about a week and when I fired it up today, I ran an > update and then an upgrade on my squeeze install and today I noticed this > > [snip] > root@Blackdragon:~# aptitude upgrade > The following packages will be upgraded: > apache2.2-bin bind9-host dnsutils gdm3 google-chrome-stable host > libbind9-60 libdns69 libisc62 libisccc60 libisccfg62 liblwres60 libmozjs2d > libnss3-1d xulrunner-1.9.1 > 15 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. > Need to get 36.1 MB of archives. After unpacking 1,000 kB will be freed. > Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?] n > Abort. > root@Blackdragon:~# > [/snip] > > So why the hell is apache being installed/upgraded on a desktop install w/ > no "server" services? Maybe apt-cache rdepends --installed apache2 -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110330204703.GA9236@Europa.office
Re: Console news aggregator: snownews with atom2rss
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 07:27:58PM -0700, Kelly Clowers wrote: > > Why is that? I never used it, but I use Newsbeuter, and they seem pretty > comparable. > Newsbeuter had been my second choice but I don't remember it 4 years ago so I installed. Lunch break is well over and I haven't read a single thing but here are some usage points that are key-press options I like in snownews. *Not* a criticism of Newsbeuter, just an impression. 1. Newsbeuter comes up asking for a URL file or an OPML import. Snownews just opens the first time and one can start adding and deleting with key-press commands. 2. Newsbeuter doesn't show me a key-press way to categorize. Evidently I must edit the URL file with tags. 3. Newsbeuter doesn't show me a way to edit the title so maybe I have to trust the source to not send BS or long titles. 4. Newsbeuter doesn't show me a way to arrange things into the exact order I want to read them, just sort by criteria. 5. Newsbeuter doesn't show me a headlines *only* view. In snownews, my news feeds are arranged by preference in descending order. The headlines only view then displays in that same order, making a very fast news hit for on the fly. -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110330195521.GA4527@Europa.office
Re: Console news aggregator: snownews with atom2rss
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 07:27:58PM -0700, Kelly Clowers wrote: > On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 14:27, Freeman wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 02:02:51PM -1000, Joel Roth wrote: > >> > >> I'm having trouble getting snownews to accept an atom feed. > >> I found an atom-to-rss converter here: > >> > >> http://kiza.kcore.de/software/snownews/snowscripts/extensions/script/atom2rss/ > >> > >> Here is test code for a filter: > >> > >> curl http://blogs.perl.org/atom.xml | xsltproc > >> ~/.snownews/atom2rss.xml - > >> > >> This gives me an RDF document (see below, items pruned to one) > >> > >> Now I try to do this in snownews entry for the URL using > >> the 'e' command. Re-reading the feed with 'r' shows nothing, > >> although there's a delay that suggests content was > >> downloaded, if nothing else. > >> > > > > It has been years and I only have one atom feed left > > Left? I have more Atom feeds than ever. And if you add in those weird > RSS+Atom feeds that feedburner and other produce, I hardly have any > RSS feeds left (thank goodness). Such it is. I had thought, from a brief exchange with the author about a feed which never worked, that a filter is needed for any atom feed. But I only applied filters to problem feeds and never looked farther into it. > > > > I won't be switching from snownews till I have to pry my cold dead fingers > > off of it. > > Why is that? I never used it, but I use Newsbeuter, and they seem pretty > comparable. Mainly, I have been highly satisified for 4 years with its fast, minimal intereface and light resource usage. e.g., you can issue a command when you find it in the help menu rather than quiting the help menu first. The whole interface seems to work in that clean, minimal-key-presses way. Midori and elinks supliment it well and I have it switching between them on whether I am in X. I find it sensible too. Probably a personal predisposition. For example, there is something about the logic of Opera's interface that forever defies me (even though I was using it on Win98 when it debued at a price around $29 plus upgrade charges.) So I use a plethora of other options that work along the lines I am anticipating. > > Cheers, > Kelly Clowers > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: > http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTin@yeyfmjtajh0auk+9p0bd9cgpqy7y-r0...@mail.gmail.com > -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110330192151.GA30959@Europa.office
Re: iceweasel 4 on squeeze?
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 11:58:47AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 03/29/2011 08:49 AM, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > >Freeman wrote: > >> > > > >I missed that. But I wonder if the industry listened... > > > > MSFT sure didn't. But they still use it as a FUD bludgeon against > switching away from Windows. > Ah yes, "the most secure OS in the world." I haven't seen 7, but Vista impresses me as having the most confounding rip-off of the Linux security model imaginable, or more than imaginable. -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110329213705.GB3044@Deneb.office
Re: Console news aggregator: snownews with atom2rss
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 02:02:51PM -1000, Joel Roth wrote: > > I'm having trouble getting snownews to accept an atom feed. > I found an atom-to-rss converter here: > > http://kiza.kcore.de/software/snownews/snowscripts/extensions/script/atom2rss/ > > Here is test code for a filter: > > curl http://blogs.perl.org/atom.xml | xsltproc ~/.snownews/atom2rss.xml - > > This gives me an RDF document (see below, items pruned to one) > > Now I try to do this in snownews entry for the URL using > the 'e' command. Re-reading the feed with 'r' shows nothing, > although there's a delay that suggests content was > downloaded, if nothing else. > It has been years and I only have one atom feed left (which hasn't had new articles in a year since they changed to xml, as it turns out (how much I read conservative blogs)). My line in ~/.snownews/urls : http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/atom.xml||Blog|xsltproc /home/freeman/.snownews/xsltproc - Also, http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/atom.xml||Blog|xsltproc seems to work now although I don't think it did when I set it up. I won't be switching from snownews till I have to pry my cold dead fingers off of it. -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110329212737.GA3044@Deneb.office
Re: iceweasel 4 on squeeze?
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 09:52:08AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 03/23/2011 07:01 AM, Brad Alexander wrote: > >Too soon? > > > >I had thought about grabbing the one from experimental (rc2?), but decided > >against that for a squeeze system. > > > > Because of the radical changes in v4.0, I *strongly* urge that you > install FF 4.0 to /usr/local/bin or ~/bin, since you or your wife > might (as I do) dislike the way that v4 works. > > Even using separate profiles for iceweasel 3.5 and Ff 4.0, I accidentally brought Ff 4.0 in iceweasel's profile once (before making a special menu item for it) and so Ff 4.0 disabled an addon (a harder to get one) which I had to reinstall because I couldn't get it re-enabled in iceweasel. Didn't Bill Gates convene the "industry" about 10 years ago on the problem of upgrade shock, defined as when users, particularly employees, refuse to upgrade because they don't want to spend more of their limited time learning to do the same thing yet again, like when the UI changes? -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110328214157.GA7890@Deneb.office
Re: mutt, exim, sender's email address
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 12:15:43PM -0700, evenso wrote: > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:20:11AM -0700, Mike McClain wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 12:29:04AM +, Brian wrote: > > > On Thu 24 Mar 2011 at 14:53:29 -0700, Mike McClain wrote: > > > > > > > Is there any automatic way to have the sender's email address > > > > changed depending on whether or not the mail is going to a list? > > >> > > > > > In my mutt configuration file I have: > > > send-hook . 'unmy_hdr From:' > > > send-hook '~t debian-user@lists\.debian\.org' 'my_hdr From: Brian > > > ' > > > > > > Would that be anything like what you are looking for? > > > > Well, I don't know but I'll try it and see, from re-reading the docs > > it surely looks like it, guess I just missed it. > > Thanks, > > Mike > > -- > > As of 1.5, mut can deliver directly to a remote SMTP but I don't know > whether or not the Debian package is compiled for that, probably. > > Otherwise, exim4 will edit those "from:" headers to respect the local > domain or to what has been configured for a standard rewrite. > > Brian's link look about good for conditional rewrite but I haven't read or > tried it. > P.S. Link to configuring mutt to send direct to remote SMTP (so exim4 doesn't rewrite the "from:" header. http://wiki.mutt.org/?MuttFaq/Sendmail You could make a macro in muttrc that sources that config and turn it on/off depending on whether you wanted to send from your basic domain with exim4. -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110325192122.GB6755@Deneb.office
Re: mutt, exim, sender's email address
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:20:11AM -0700, Mike McClain wrote: > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 12:29:04AM +, Brian wrote: > > On Thu 24 Mar 2011 at 14:53:29 -0700, Mike McClain wrote: > > > > > Is there any automatic way to have the sender's email address > > > changed depending on whether or not the mail is going to a list? > >> > > > In my mutt configuration file I have: > > send-hook . 'unmy_hdr From:' > > send-hook '~t debian-user@lists\.debian\.org' 'my_hdr From: Brian > > ' > > > > Would that be anything like what you are looking for? > > Well, I don't know but I'll try it and see, from re-reading the docs > it surely looks like it, guess I just missed it. > Thanks, > Mike > -- As of 1.5, mut can deliver directly to a remote SMTP but I don't know whether or not the Debian package is compiled for that, probably. Otherwise, exim4 will edit those "from:" headers to respect the local domain or to what has been configured for a standard rewrite. Brian's link look about good for conditional rewrite but I haven't read or tried it. -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110325191543.GA6755@Deneb.office
Re: boot loader
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 02:25:44PM -0700, Mark wrote: > On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 2:22 PM, shawn wilson wrote: > > > > > now, that's pretty cool. bad part is now i have to go to the store and > > get more cds (or probably better, a thumb drive). however, at least i > > have an easy way to get this system up and probably use one of the > > boot loaders Bob's suggested or figure out if windows can revive its > > own mbr (probably not). > > > > for windows, booting into rescue mode (pending you get your hands on a CD), > it's just 2 commands: > > fixmbr > fixboot c: > > and you will be booting windows again. > Brings back numerous memories. Super grub disk is nice to have on hand for general booting issues. It does that windows fix also. -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110324213255.GA22932@Europa.office
Re: boot loader
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 12:30:39PM -0400, shawn wilson wrote: > not sure of the topicality of this here but... > > i've got a computer with ntldr messing up. since i don't have a windows xp > disk, i have no way of fixing this (besides torrent). so, i was hoping to > find some sort of quick install that just shoved grup on the system and made > a minimal partition for /boot (and whatever else is required for grub). > > as it is, i can't find anything that does this. so i'm curious of everything > that grub depends on? just /boot or do i need some config files in /etc and > do i need any binaries for it? i'm not interested in maintaining grub from > the system (it would just be maintained from a boot cd if at all). i just > need it to boot and work. i'm going to use gparted to make a ~10 meg > partition (i think that's all i should need). > > ... unless anyone knows of a system that does all of this for me, then i'll > just let it ride and not worry about anything? I've always used super grub disk . I don't think it will make partitions, maybe subdirectories. It can probably install grub without new partitions. But it might also restore a windows boot. -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110324205405.GA12889@Europa.office
Re: Lots of Stable Upgrades
On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 01:27:25AM +0100, Andreas Rönnquist wrote: > On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 16:41:06 -0700 > freeman wrote: > > > Not counting security updates, I expected some ketchup when I followed > > squeeze into stable. But now I am wondering how long will it continue? > > > > An upgrade to Squeeze (6.0) called 6.0.1 was recently released, > containing all security updates that previously has been released, and > some fixes to important bugs in stable. This is the cause to the big > amount of updates right now. See > > http://www.debian.org/News/2011/20110319 > > for the announcements. I believe some updates are allowed in stable to > fix serious bugs, even if they are not security-related. > Oops. And there it is in debian-announce too. Duh! Should have caught up in my reading. Just wasn't thinking on terms of a point release yet. -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110322010444.GA4722@Europa.office
Lots of Stable Upgrades
Not counting security updates, I expected some ketchup when I followed squeeze into stable. But now I am wondering how long will it continue? Running squeeze/mixed; started 100% uptodate; installed some upgrades; most of these upgradeables showed up within the past three days: freeman@Europa:~$ apt-show-versions | grep upgradeable | grep squeeze base-files/stable upgradeable from 6.0 to 6.0squeeze1 clamav-docs/stable upgradeable from 0.96.5+dfsg-1.1 to 0.97+dfsg-2~squeeze1 console-setup/stable upgradeable from 1.68 to 1.68+squeeze2 dbconfig-common/stable upgradeable from 1.8.46 to 1.8.46+squeeze.0 debootstrap/stable upgradeable from 1.0.26 to 1.0.26+squeeze1 desktop-base/stable upgradeable from 6.0.5 to 6.0.5squeeze1 gedit/stable upgradeable from 2.30.4-1 to 2.30.4-1squeeze1 gedit-common/stable upgradeable from 2.30.4-1 to 2.30.4-1squeeze1 gnome-screensaver/stable upgradeable from 2.30.0-2 to 2.30.0-2squeeze1 kdelibs-bin/stable upgradeable from 4:4.4.4-2 to 4:4.4.5-2+squeeze1 kdelibs5/stable upgradeable from 4:4.4.4-2 to 4:4.4.5-2+squeeze1 kdelibs5-data/stable upgradeable from 4:4.4.4-2 to 4:4.4.5-2+squeeze1 kdelibs5-plugins/stable upgradeable from 4:4.4.4-2 to 4:4.4.5-2+squeeze1 kdoctools/stable upgradeable from 4:4.4.4-2 to 4:4.4.5-2+squeeze1 keyboard-configuration/stable upgradeable from 1.68 to 1.68+squeeze2 libclamav6/stable upgradeable from 0.97+dfsg-1 to 0.97+dfsg-2~squeeze1 libkde3support4/stable upgradeable from 4:4.4.4-2 to 4:4.4.5-2+squeeze1 libkdecore5/stable upgradeable from 4:4.4.4-2 to 4:4.4.5-2+squeeze1 libkdesu5/stable upgradeable from 4:4.4.4-2 to 4:4.4.5-2+squeeze1 libkdeui5/stable upgradeable from 4:4.4.4-2 to 4:4.4.5-2+squeeze1 libkdnssd4/stable upgradeable from 4:4.4.4-2 to 4:4.4.5-2+squeeze1 libkfile4/stable upgradeable from 4:4.4.4-2 to 4:4.4.5-2+squeeze1 libkhtml5/stable upgradeable from 4:4.4.4-2 to 4:4.4.5-2+squeeze1 libkimproxy4/stable upgradeable from 4:4.4.4-2 to 4:4.4.5-2+squeeze1 libkio5/stable upgradeable from 4:4.4.4-2 to 4:4.4.5-2+squeeze1 libkjsapi4/stable upgradeable from 4:4.4.4-2 to 4:4.4.5-2+squeeze1 libkjsembed4/stable upgradeable from 4:4.4.4-2 to 4:4.4.5-2+squeeze1 libkmediaplayer4/stable upgradeable from 4:4.4.4-2 to 4:4.4.5-2+squeeze1 libknewstuff2-4/stable upgradeable from 4:4.4.4-2 to 4:4.4.5-2+squeeze1 libknotifyconfig4/stable upgradeable from 4:4.4.4-2 to 4:4.4.5-2+squeeze1 libkntlm4/stable upgradeable from 4:4.4.4-2 to 4:4.4.5-2+squeeze1 libkparts4/stable upgradeable from 4:4.4.4-2 to 4:4.4.5-2+squeeze1 libkpty4/stable upgradeable from 4:4.4.4-2 to 4:4.4.5-2+squeeze1 libkrosscore4/stable upgradeable from 4:4.4.4-2 to 4:4.4.5-2+squeeze1 libkrossui4/stable upgradeable from 4:4.4.4-2 to 4:4.4.5-2+squeeze1 libktexteditor4/stable upgradeable from 4:4.4.4-2 to 4:4.4.5-2+squeeze1 libkutils4/stable upgradeable from 4:4.4.4-2 to 4:4.4.5-2+squeeze1 libnautilus-extension1/stable upgradeable from 2.30.1-2 to 2.30.1-2squeeze1 libnepomuk4/stable upgradeable from 4:4.4.4-2 to 4:4.4.5-2+squeeze1 libnm-glib2/stable upgradeable from 0.8.1-6 to 0.8.1-6+squeeze1 libnm-util1/stable upgradeable from 0.8.1-6 to 0.8.1-6+squeeze1 libpulse-browse0/stable upgradeable from 0.9.21-3 to 0.9.21-3+squeeze1 libpulse-mainloop-glib0/stable upgradeable from 0.9.21-3 to 0.9.21-3+squeeze1 libpulse0/stable upgradeable from 0.9.21-3 to 0.9.21-3+squeeze1 libquicktime1/stable upgradeable from 3:1.2.2-0.1squeeze1 to 3:1.2.2-0.3squeeze1 libsolid4/stable upgradeable from 4:4.4.4-2 to 4:4.4.5-2+squeeze1 libthreadweaver4/stable upgradeable from 4:4.4.4-2 to 4:4.4.5-2+squeeze1 nautilus/stable upgradeable from 2.30.1-2 to 2.30.1-2squeeze1 nautilus-data/stable upgradeable from 2.30.1-2 to 2.30.1-2squeeze1 pulseaudio-utils/stable upgradeable from 0.9.21-3 to 0.9.21-3+squeeze1 python/stable upgradeable from 2.6.6-3+squeeze5 to 2.6.6-3+squeeze6 python-minimal/stable upgradeable from 2.6.6-3+squeeze5 to 2.6.6-3+squeeze6 sudo/stable upgradeable from 1.7.4p4-2.squeeze.1 to 1.7.4p4-2.squeeze.2 sun-java6-bin/stable upgradeable from 6.22-1 to 6.24-1~squeeze1 sun-java6-jre/stable upgradeable from 6.22-1 to 6.24-1~squeeze1 sun-java6-plugin/stable upgradeable from 6.22-1 to 6.24-1~squeeze1 ttf-liberation/stable upgradeable from 1.05.2.20091019-4 to 1.05.2.20091019-4squeeze1 tzdata/stable upgradeable from 2010o-1 to 2011c-0squeeze1 tzdata-java/stable upgradeable from 2010o-1 to 2011c-0squeeze1 -- Regards, Freeman -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110321234106.GA4699@Europa.office
Re: sources.list
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 10:09:41PM -0400, Chris Brennan wrote: > On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Freeman wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 04:59:11PM -0700, evenso wrote: > > > On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 07:25:43PM -0400, Chris Brennan wrote: > > > > While I am not new to Linux/*BSD, I am new to the Debian way of things. > > What > > > > is the proper way of modifying /etc/apt/sources.list. As it stands, I > > am > > > > running with the basic sources.list and am curious as to what gets > > added > > > > where to sources.list? > > > > > > > > > > > P.S. If you're looking for fun and danger with your sources.list: > > > > https://sites.google.com/site/mydebiansourceslist/ > > > > > Thank you, this is actually what I was looking for (in a way). It gave me an > idea of what I can/cannot do with sources.list. > I don't know whether you've used apt in previous experience. If you are going to have a colorful sources list is a good idea to create /etc/apt/apt.conf : APT::Default-Release "stable"; or whatever your default-release is. Then you won't get potentially destructive upgrade suggestions from lines left open on your sources.list . Also, if you use aptitude, make sure preferences is set to *not* upgrade automatically and to prompt in advance, so you can review what it intends to do. To specify a release to install from, check the man on the -t switch for apt and aptitude. -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110315190427.GA5230@Europa.office
[OT] Japanese Members of Debian User List
Cross-posted to d-community-offto...@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/d-community-offtopic/2011-March/82.html -- Regards, Freeman -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110315011741.GA19137@Europa.office
Re: sources.list
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 04:59:11PM -0700, evenso wrote: > On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 07:25:43PM -0400, Chris Brennan wrote: > > While I am not new to Linux/*BSD, I am new to the Debian way of things. What > > is the proper way of modifying /etc/apt/sources.list. As it stands, I am > > running with the basic sources.list and am curious as to what gets added > > where to sources.list? > > > P.S. If you're looking for fun and danger with your sources.list: https://sites.google.com/site/mydebiansourceslist/ -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110315001231.GA11967@Europa.office
Re: sources.list
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 07:25:43PM -0400, Chris Brennan wrote: > While I am not new to Linux/*BSD, I am new to the Debian way of things. What > is the proper way of modifying /etc/apt/sources.list. As it stands, I am > running with the basic sources.list and am curious as to what gets added > where to sources.list? > Have you read http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html#_debian_archive_basics One of the many strong points of this distro is how great a read the Debian Reference Manual is. If you don't want to use a text editor as root, there is something in the Gnome menu under Admin. Also in Synaptic > Settings > Repository. -- Regards, Freeman "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer." --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110314235911.GA4944@Europa.office
