Re: Nvidia chipset problems on Presario

2009-10-03 Thread Richard Lyons
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 02:01:25PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:

 On Thu, 2009-09-10 at 09:44 +0100, Richard Lyons wrote:
  I have an HP Compaq Presario CQ60 laptop.  Having no high-speed
  connection,
  I have installed Debian 5.0.2 from the dvd set.  This gives me kernel·
  2.6.26-2-686.  The Presario has an nvidia chipset (see output of lspci

[...]
Update: I took the laptop to London where I have broadband, downloaded the
nvidia drivers and things got better.  Since then I've upgraded to squeeze,
now with 2.6.30.  All's well (except for gnumeric -- but that is another
story, and very irritating as I cannot access any of my gnumeric files any
more).

 I'm really upset with the all around crap handling nvidia has given
 Linux in the last couple of years.  Sure, they were first out the door
 with some decent video drivers for Linux, but that was 10 years ago.
 Today, their drivers tend to be stale, poorly maintained, and buggy at
 best (hell, antialiasing doesn't even work right in their current
 drivers).

 If you want decent support, avoid nvidia.

Thanks for that advice, though as I usually buy whatever is available cheap,
I often don't have any choice.  It's a pity to see a firm that tried to
accept the presence of Linux letting things slip, though.

richard


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Re: Nvidia chipset problems on Presario

2009-09-13 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, 2009-09-10 at 09:44 +0100, Richard Lyons wrote:
 I have an HP Compaq Presario CQ60 laptop.  Having no high-speed connection,
 I have installed Debian 5.0.2 from the dvd set.  This gives me kernel·
 2.6.26-2-686.  The Presario has an nvidia chipset (see output of lspci
 below).  The installer evidently fails to recognise this or doesn't have
 the right drivers.  Console writes to screen in a manner reminiscent of an
 old teletype terminal.  I installed the nvidia driver so that X now runs
 acceptably fast and at the correct resolution (1366 x 768).  But the console
 remains slow.  Also there is no sound.  Presumably both these are driver
 issues.  For the sound, it seems clear the wrong modules are loaded, see
 output of 'lsmod | grep snd' below.·

I'm really upset with the all around crap handling nvidia has given
Linux in the last couple of years.  Sure, they were first out the door
with some decent video drivers for Linux, but that was 10 years ago.
Today, their drivers tend to be stale, poorly maintained, and buggy at
best (hell, antialiasing doesn't even work right in their current
drivers).

If you want decent support, avoid nvidia.



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Nvidia chipset problems on Presario

2009-09-10 Thread Richard Lyons
I have an HP Compaq Presario CQ60 laptop.  Having no high-speed connection,
I have installed Debian 5.0.2 from the dvd set.  This gives me kernel·
2.6.26-2-686.  The Presario has an nvidia chipset (see output of lspci
below).  The installer evidently fails to recognise this or doesn't have
the right drivers.  Console writes to screen in a manner reminiscent of an
old teletype terminal.  I installed the nvidia driver so that X now runs
acceptably fast and at the correct resolution (1366 x 768).  But the console
remains slow.  Also there is no sound.  Presumably both these are driver
issues.  For the sound, it seems clear the wrong modules are loaded, see
output of 'lsmod | grep snd' below.·

A further problem which may be connected is that the keyboard regularly
freezes.  This appears to happen always after the ppp connection (to a
mobile phone acting as a GPRS modem) has been dropped by the supplier, but
this may be a coincidence.  When it happens, it is impossible to give
keyboard input to any X-window, or to jump to a console.  It does not appear
to be a sleep issue, as it does not occur after closing the lid and
leaving the laptop overnight, for example.

How do I correct these, given that I cannot do a major upgrade as there is
only a slow internet connection here?

TIA

richard



$ lspci
00:00.0 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation MCP78S [GeForce 8200] Memory
Controller (rev a2)
00:01.0 ISA bridge: nVidia Corporation Device 075e (rev a2)
00:01.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation MCP78S [GeForce 8200] SMBus (rev a1)
00:01.3 Co-processor: nVidia Corporation MCP78S [GeForce 8200] Co-Processor
(rev a2)
00:01.4 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation MCP78S [GeForce 8200] Memory
Controller (rev a1)
00:02.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP78S [GeForce 8200] OHCI USB
1.1 Controller+ (rev a1)
00:02.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP78S [GeForce 8200] EHCI USB
2.0 Controller+ (rev a1)
00:04.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP78S [GeForce 8200] OHCI USB
1.1 Controller+ (rev a1)
00:04.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP78S [GeForce 8200] EHCI USB
2.0 Controller+ (rev a1)
00:06.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP78S [GeForce 8200] IDE (rev a1)
00:07.0 Audio device: nVidia Corporation Device 0774 (rev a1)
00:08.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP78S [GeForce 8200] PCI Bridge (rev
a1)
00:09.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation Device 0ad0 (rev a2)
00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: nVidia Corporation MCP78S [GeForce 8200]
Ethernet (rev a2)
00:0b.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP78S [GeForce 8200] PCI Express
Bridge (rev a1)
00:14.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation Device 077a (rev a1)
00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 11h HyperTransport
Configuratio+n (rev 40)
00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 11h Address Map
00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 11h DRAM Controller
00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 11h Miscellaneous
Control
00:18.4 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 11h Link Control
02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Device 0845 (rev a2)
07:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg
Wireless PCI E+xpress Adapter (rev 01)

$ lsmod | grep snd
snd_hda_intel 325688  0·
snd_pcm_oss32832  0·
snd_mixer_oss  12320  1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_pcm62596  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss
snd_seq_dummy   2660  0·
snd_seq_oss24992  0·
snd_seq_midi5728  0·
snd_rawmidi18528  1 snd_seq_midi
snd_seq_midi_event  6432  2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi
snd_seq41456  6
snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_even+t
snd_timer  17800  2 snd_pcm,snd_seq
snd_seq_device  6380  5
snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_s+eq
snd45604  9
snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_seq_+oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device
soundcore   6368  1 snd
snd_page_alloc  7816  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm


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RE: Nvidia chipset problems on Presario

2009-09-10 Thread Kevin Ross
 From: Richard Lyons [mailto:rich...@the-place.net]
 Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 1:45 AM
 
 I have an HP Compaq Presario CQ60 laptop.  Having no high-speed
 connection,
 I have installed Debian 5.0.2 from the dvd set.  This gives me kernel·
 2.6.26-2-686.  The Presario has an nvidia chipset (see output of lspci
 below).  The installer evidently fails to recognise this or doesn't
 have
 the right drivers.  Console writes to screen in a manner reminiscent of
 an
 old teletype terminal.  I installed the nvidia driver so that X now
 runs
 acceptably fast and at the correct resolution (1366 x 768).  But the
 console
 remains slow.  Also there is no sound.  Presumably both these are
 driver
 issues.  For the sound, it seems clear the wrong modules are loaded,
 see
 output of 'lsmod | grep snd' below.·
 
 A further problem which may be connected is that the keyboard regularly
 freezes.  This appears to happen always after the ppp connection (to a
 mobile phone acting as a GPRS modem) has been dropped by the supplier,
 but
 this may be a coincidence.  When it happens, it is impossible to give
 keyboard input to any X-window, or to jump to a console.  It does not
 appear
 to be a sleep issue, as it does not occur after closing the lid and
 leaving the laptop overnight, for example.
 
 How do I correct these, given that I cannot do a major upgrade as there
 is
 only a slow internet connection here?
 
 TIA
 
 richard
 
 
 
 $ lspci
 00:00.0 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation MCP78S [GeForce 8200] Memory
 Controller (rev a2)
 00:01.0 ISA bridge: nVidia Corporation Device 075e (rev a2)
 00:01.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation MCP78S [GeForce 8200] SMBus (rev a1)
 00:01.3 Co-processor: nVidia Corporation MCP78S [GeForce 8200] Co-
 Processor
 (rev a2)
 00:01.4 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation MCP78S [GeForce 8200] Memory
 Controller (rev a1)
 00:02.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP78S [GeForce 8200] OHCI
 USB
 1.1 Controller+ (rev a1)
 00:02.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP78S [GeForce 8200] EHCI
 USB
 2.0 Controller+ (rev a1)
 00:04.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP78S [GeForce 8200] OHCI
 USB
 1.1 Controller+ (rev a1)
 00:04.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP78S [GeForce 8200] EHCI
 USB
 2.0 Controller+ (rev a1)
 00:06.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP78S [GeForce 8200] IDE
 (rev a1)
 00:07.0 Audio device: nVidia Corporation Device 0774 (rev a1)
 00:08.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP78S [GeForce 8200] PCI Bridge
 (rev
 a1)
 00:09.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation Device 0ad0 (rev a2)
 00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: nVidia Corporation MCP78S [GeForce 8200]
 Ethernet (rev a2)
 00:0b.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP78S [GeForce 8200] PCI
 Express
 Bridge (rev a1)
 00:14.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation Device 077a (rev a1)
 00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 11h
 HyperTransport
 Configuratio+n (rev 40)
 00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 11h Address
 Map
 00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 11h DRAM
 Controller
 00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 11h
 Miscellaneous
 Control
 00:18.4 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 11h Link
 Control
 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Device 0845 (rev
 a2)
 07:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x
 802.11abg
 Wireless PCI E+xpress Adapter (rev 01)
 
 $ lsmod | grep snd
 snd_hda_intel 325688  0·
 snd_pcm_oss32832  0·
 snd_mixer_oss  12320  1 snd_pcm_oss
 snd_pcm62596  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss
 snd_seq_dummy   2660  0·
 snd_seq_oss24992  0·
 snd_seq_midi5728  0·
 snd_rawmidi18528  1 snd_seq_midi
 snd_seq_midi_event  6432  2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi
 snd_seq41456  6
 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_even+t
 snd_timer  17800  2 snd_pcm,snd_seq
 snd_seq_device  6380  5
 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_s+eq
 snd45604  9
 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_seq_+oss,snd_rawmid
 i,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device
 soundcore   6368  1 snd
 snd_page_alloc  7816  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm

snd_hda_intel is the correct audio driver.  I don't have the same laptop 
as you, but I have a desktop motherboard with integrated GeForce 8200 
graphics and HD Audio.  In my case, to get audio working properly, I had 
to upgrade to the latest ALSA.  Try going to alsa-project.org and getting 
the latest drivers.  You'll need to install the kernel headers to build
the ALSA kernel modules.

Hope this helps!
-- Kevin



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Re: Nvidia chipset problems on Presario

2009-09-10 Thread Richard Lyons
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 11:31:40AM -0700, Kevin Ross wrote:

  From: Richard Lyons [mailto:rich...@the-place.net]
  Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 1:45 AM
  
  I have an HP Compaq Presario CQ60 laptop.  Having no high-speed
  connection,
  I have installed Debian 5.0.2 from the dvd set.  This gives me kernel·
  2.6.26-2-686.  The Presario has an nvidia chipset (see output of lspci
  below).  The installer evidently fails to recognise this or doesn't
[...]
  $ lspci
[...]
  00:07.0 Audio device: nVidia Corporation Device 0774 (rev a1)
[...]
  
  $ lsmod | grep snd
  snd_hda_intel 325688  0·
[...]
 snd_hda_intel is the correct audio driver.  I don't have the same laptop 
 as you, but I have a desktop motherboard with integrated GeForce 8200 
 graphics and HD Audio.  In my case, to get audio working properly, I had 
 to upgrade to the latest ALSA.  Try going to alsa-project.org and getting 
 the latest drivers.  You'll need to install the kernel headers to build
 the ALSA kernel modules.
[...]
Thanks Kevin.  I'll look at that.

richard


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