Re: [libreoffice-design] Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2019-DEC-12
Dear Paul, 12 дек. 2019 г. 17:30 пользователь paul hofseth написал: Sirs, please do not waste scarce coding resources on thoroughly trivial matters like colours and signage, but rather on making the programs more practical to use - such as for instance having the choice of typeface as a sdeparate item, not hidden inside the multiple format choices. Risking ostracism fro monotounous suggestions, I repeat my wish for sequential views of single pages with as little jumbling as possible of text and illsustrations when proofreading long documents Please do not waste scarce coding resources on thoroughly trivial matters like telling others what to do, but rather on making the programs more practical to use! Why do I write this rather harsh statement? Not in the hope that you would start doing what I wrote, but to show you one important aspect that you seem to overlook. What would you do if you actually be denied of a way to contribute by expressing your opinions and wishes, and demanded to do something entirely different for the project? For most, such requirement would not mean they started contributing differently; that would mean they stopped contributing at all. Most people here contribute for one of two reasons: either being paid for the work by their employers/customers, or doing things they *can* for own enjoyment. Not everyone here likes or is able to do what you'd want them to do to fix your pet bug; and your expectation that if you deny someone of doing what *you* consider "trivial" would free the resources for a different task, are just plain wrong: instead of improving the areas you are interested in, we would simply loose those who love and able to contribute in areas *others* are interested in, nothing else. By the way, I actually deem the importance of *your* contriburion (expressing your opinion about LibreOffice and its future, feeling for it, and proposing something) wery high. So please don't take the initial statement seriously, but just as a way to illustrate my point. Best regards, Mike Kaganski -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-design] Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2019-DEC-12
Sirs, please do not waste scarce coding resources on thoroughly trivial matters like colours and signage, but rather on making the programs more practical to use - such as for instance having the choice of typeface as a sdeparate item, not hidden inside the multiple format choices. Risking ostracism fro monotounous suggestions, I repeat my wish for sequential views of single pages with as little jumbling as possible of text and illsustrations when proofreading long documents yours ph --- Paul Hofseth Vestgrensa 11 Oslo N 0851 t: +47 90890521 Den 2019-12-12 14:37, skrev Heiko Tietze: Present: Heiko Comments from: Dieter, Bogdan, Mike, Stuart Tickets * Repeat shortcut (Ctrl+Shift+Y) is too far for short-finger users using en (qwerty) keyboard + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=129058 + WFM (Heiko) + perhaps alt+Y (Stuart) + I always use TWO hands for that keyboard shortcuts =) (Roman) + keyboard issue for English, see also bug 115052 for other than English + Excel (or all MSO) uses F4 (or ctrl+Y) for "repeat last action" (but the same key also for redo) + shift+ctrl+r - cannot press it without hurting myself, ctrl+at+r works + alt+ should be reserved for hotkeys + keep it - common, usable (maybe not for everyone), consistent (Heiko) + more opinions needed (Roman) => no further input, WF * Page sidebar: "Same Content" on header/footer sections is absolutely illogical + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=129200 + make it similar to the page dialog with checkboxes (Dieter) => go for it * PRINTING: Change The Color of Print Preview Active Page Border + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=129235 + greenish background, triangles or printer icons in the background, light blue frame, different shadow... => let's try * Draw menu entry: Shape or Shapes? + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=129288 + -1 (Heiko, Bogdan) + +1 (Stuart) + Shape --> Shapes, Sheet --> Sheets, Form --> Forms, Page (singular) + change all singular at once => trust the native speaker and do as Stuart suggest -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy