[RELEASE] No multimedia support in MacOSX

2014-05-02 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
Hi,

Please some native English speaker add this item in the Known Issues
section of the 4.1 Release Notes

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124800


Regards
-- 
Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina


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Re: [RELEASE] No multimedia support in MacOSX

2014-05-02 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
Hi,
On 02 May  2014, at 10:54, Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Please some native English speaker add this item in the Known Issues
 section of the 4.1 Release Notes
 
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124800
 
 
 Regards
 -- 
 Ariel Constenla-Haile
 La Plata, Argentina

I tried updating the page as you requested but, oddly, I seemed unable to edit 
the release notes. (Mankind can rest more peacefully tonight.) Given that my 
original account with Apache was made years and years ago it's entirely 
possible that my current ill-deserved status is not reflected in my BugZilla 
account. 

I'll contact Infra about my account. In the meantime, if someone more 
privileged wants to look at updating the Release Notes….

Louis


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Re: [RELEASE] No multimedia support in MacOSX

2014-05-02 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Louis Suárez-Potts wrote:

oddly, I seemed unable to edit the release notes


Your account has been whitelisted. You should now be able to edit

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1+Release+Notes

Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: [RELEASE] No multimedia support in MacOSX

2014-05-02 Thread Keith N. McKenna
Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Please some native English speaker add this item in the Known Issues
 section of the 4.1 Release Notes
 
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124800
 
 
 Regards
 

Hi Ariel;

I will gladly update the release notes, but first let me make sure that
I understand the issue. If I follow all your links back it appears that
the problem is directly related to the Quicktime API having been removed
in the MacOSX SDK 10.7 which is now the base for AOO. Is this
essentially correct? If it is then just some words around further
investigation needed for a fix.

Regards
Keith



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Re: [RELEASE] No multimedia support in MacOSX

2014-05-02 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts

On 02 May  2014, at 12:19, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:

 Louis Suárez-Potts wrote:
 oddly, I seemed unable to edit the release notes
 
 Your account has been whitelisted. You should now be able to edit
 
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1+Release+Notes
 
 Regards,
  Andrea.

Thanks.

Louis
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Re: [RELEASE] No multimedia support in MacOSX

2014-05-02 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
Hi Keith,

On Fri, May 02, 2014 at 02:02:17PM -0400, Keith N. McKenna wrote:
  Please some native English speaker add this item in the Known Issues
  section of the 4.1 Release Notes
  
  https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124800

 I will gladly update the release notes, but first let me make sure
 that I understand the issue. If I follow all your links back it
 appears that the problem is directly related to the Quicktime API
 having been removed in the MacOSX SDK 10.7 which is now the base for
 AOO. Is this essentially correct? If it is then just some words around
 further investigation needed for a fix.

Herbert sure can explain the technical details, what I could understand
is that the Quicktime API (QTKit framework) has been deprecated in favor
of the AV Foundation framework, see
https://developer.apple.com/quicktime/
https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/technotes/tn2300/_index.html
Deprecated does not mean removed, may be the plug-in can still be built;
but anyway let's keep it simple for the users, and don't give the
technical explanation why the feature has been removed, but explain the
consequences (the known issues):

- existing documents containing audio and/or video: the media cannot be
  played; the Media Playback toolbar appears when you select the
  media, but pressing the Play button does nothing
- it is imposible to insert new audio and/or video, you don't even get
  the grey image-placeholder
- logically, the sounds from the Gallery cannot be played nor inserted

In short, there is no support for inserting/playing back video/audio in
MacOSX with 4.1.0.


Regards
-- 
Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina


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Re: [RELEASE] No multimedia support in MacOSX

2014-05-02 Thread Keith N. McKenna
Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
 Hi Keith,
 
 On Fri, May 02, 2014 at 02:02:17PM -0400, Keith N. McKenna wrote:
 Please some native English speaker add this item in the Known Issues
 section of the 4.1 Release Notes

 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124800

 I will gladly update the release notes, but first let me make sure
 that I understand the issue. If I follow all your links back it
 appears that the problem is directly related to the Quicktime API
 having been removed in the MacOSX SDK 10.7 which is now the base for
 AOO. Is this essentially correct? If it is then just some words around
 further investigation needed for a fix.
 
 Herbert sure can explain the technical details, what I could understand
 is that the Quicktime API (QTKit framework) has been deprecated in favor
 of the AV Foundation framework, see
 https://developer.apple.com/quicktime/
 https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/technotes/tn2300/_index.html
 Deprecated does not mean removed, may be the plug-in can still be built;
 but anyway let's keep it simple for the users, and don't give the
 technical explanation why the feature has been removed, but explain the
 consequences (the known issues):
 
 - existing documents containing audio and/or video: the media cannot be
   played; the Media Playback toolbar appears when you select the
   media, but pressing the Play button does nothing
 - it is imposible to insert new audio and/or video, you don't even get
   the grey image-placeholder
 - logically, the sounds from the Gallery cannot be played nor inserted
 
 In short, there is no support for inserting/playing back video/audio in
 MacOSX with 4.1.0.
 
 
 Regards
 
Hi Ariel;

As usual your explanations are both succinct and cogent. The nuts and
bolts technical details I am sure would be far beyond my pay grade. As I
am not a programmer I just wanted to double check my reading of all the
links. I am off to the c-wiki to start a hopefully simple and
understanding statement of the problem.

Regards
Keith



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Re: [RELEASE] No multimedia support in MacOSX

2014-05-02 Thread Keith N. McKenna
Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Please some native English speaker add this item in the Known Issues
 section of the 4.1 Release Notes
 
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124800
 
 
 Regards
 
I have updated the 4.1.0 Release Notes on the c-wiki for this issue.
Only problem is that for whatever reason the c-wiki will not allow me to
create a link to the Bugzilla Issue. When I enter the address and the
link text in the boxes and press insert nothing happens. If someone else
could try and create the link it would be greatly appreciated.

Regards
Keith



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