Open letter to TDF

2023-12-12 Thread Yury Tarasievich
IMO, not much hope in such letters, and not much 
potential good from people 'possibly to be 
lured' from there.


The LO folks have already played the MS kind of 
game, when jumping to the 1.3 file format ahead 
of everybody. And our icon sets and menus 
structure do need daily reorganising, thank you.


Also, you'd entice people to migrate with what? 
Frankly, LO has progressed in some areas beyond 
the AOO current level. Of what's noticeable to 
me there are build system, fonts support, 
graphics toolkits support. I guess xml security 
component is outdated in AOO, too.
If one's not a programmer, one's stuck with some 
unconvenient modes of behaviour.


-Yury

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Re: Open letter to TDF

2023-12-11 Thread Matthias Seidel

Hi All,

Am 11.12.23 um 13:14 schrieb Pedro Lino:

+1
More important than which Office people prefer, it would be really good if the 
ODF file format is more widely adopted instead of the increasingly proprietary 
MS Office XML.
In that sense, implementation of ODF 1.3 in OpenOffice would be a real progress!


A real progress would be to release a new version (AOO42X) where we 
would be able to integrate such changes in the future.


At the "moment" we are stuck with 4.1.x.

We have our own problems to solve...

Matthias


Best,
Pedro


On 12/11/2023 11:02 AM WET Jim Jagielski  wrote:

  
Maybe new leadership at TDF will encourage cooperation between LO and AOO instead of still harboring ill-will between the 2 efforts.



On Dec 11, 2023, at 2:28 AM, Bidouille  wrote:


For some months now, the libreoffice community has been in turmoil.
A new committee is set to oust the existing members[1].
Perhaps it would be a good idea to write an open letter urging everyone to join 
OpenOffice.


:-)


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Re: Open letter to TDF

2023-12-11 Thread Pedro Lino
+1
More important than which Office people prefer, it would be really good if the 
ODF file format is more widely adopted instead of the increasingly proprietary 
MS Office XML.
In that sense, implementation of ODF 1.3 in OpenOffice would be a real progress!

Best,
Pedro

> On 12/11/2023 11:02 AM WET Jim Jagielski  wrote:
> 
>  
> Maybe new leadership at TDF will encourage cooperation between LO and AOO 
> instead of still harboring ill-will between the 2 efforts.
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> > On Dec 11, 2023, at 2:28 AM, Bidouille  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > For some months now, the libreoffice community has been in turmoil. 
> > A new committee is set to oust the existing members[1]. 
> > Perhaps it would be a good idea to write an open letter urging everyone to 
> > join OpenOffice.
> > 
> > 
> > :-)
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Re: Open letter to TDF

2023-12-11 Thread Jim Jagielski
Maybe new leadership at TDF will encourage cooperation between LO and AOO 
instead of still harboring ill-will between the 2 efforts.

> On Dec 11, 2023, at 2:28 AM, Bidouille  wrote:
> 
> 
> For some months now, the libreoffice community has been in turmoil. 
> A new committee is set to oust the existing members[1]. 
> Perhaps it would be a good idea to write an open letter urging everyone to 
> join OpenOffice.
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> 
> :-)
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Re: Open letter to TDF

2023-12-11 Thread DaveB

+1

In fact it might be counter productive for Apache OpenOffice to be seen 
as interfering in the democratic process of another project.


Leave LibreOffice to resolve whatever problems they may or may not have 
and concentrate on attracting new developers and contributors to Apache 
OpenOffice.


Regards
Dave

On 11/12/2023 09:08, Dr. Michael Stehmann wrote:

Hello,

I don't think an open letter is a good idea. Maybe we would get public 
attention. But IMO it is better to get it for our product.


I don't think, we'll get more developers in that way. All developers of 
LibreOffice know very well, were and how hey can find and contact us.


Kind regards
Michael

Am 11.12.23 um 08:28 schrieb Bidouille:


For some months now, the libreoffice community has been in turmoil.
A new committee is set to oust the existing members[1].
Perhaps it would be a good idea to write an open letter urging 
everyone to join OpenOffice.



:-)


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Re: Open letter to TDF

2023-12-11 Thread Dr. Michael Stehmann

Hello,

I don't think an open letter is a good idea. Maybe we would get public 
attention. But IMO it is better to get it for our product.


I don't think, we'll get more developers in that way. All developers of 
LibreOffice know very well, were and how hey can find and contact us.


Kind regards
Michael

Am 11.12.23 um 08:28 schrieb Bidouille:


For some months now, the libreoffice community has been in turmoil.
A new committee is set to oust the existing members[1].
Perhaps it would be a good idea to write an open letter urging everyone to join 
OpenOffice.


:-)


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Open letter to TDF

2023-12-10 Thread Bidouille


For some months now, the libreoffice community has been in turmoil. 
A new committee is set to oust the existing members[1]. 
Perhaps it would be a good idea to write an open letter urging everyone to join 
OpenOffice.


:-)


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