Re: [FairfieldLife] Ramana Maharshi's 4 Technologies of Evolution (was: The New Advaitins)
on 1/3/06 12:16 PM, Michael Dean Goodman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Sometimes people criticize Maharishi for putting attention on these very > relative, very "material" practices. But my take is that his compassion > for, and attention to, the whole population is incredible. He could have > merely sat on the peak, waiting for the cream to rise and come to him, > and given them the Self-inquiry and final strokes of mahavakyas (which is > what some neo-advaitins do today). That would make him a rishi. But > what makes him a maha-rishi, a great rishi, is that he makes the know- > ledge available to everyone, not just the spiritually elite; that he > takes into account the welfare of all the people of the world, not just > the spiritual few; that he dives down into the mud, rather than sitting > in the Himalayas in serene, pure obscurity. Thanks for the discussion and commentary, Michael. Very helpful. My only comment is on the above. He may not have made things available just to the spiritually elite, but he certainly has restricted most of what he has offered in recent years to the financially elite. For that he loses compassion brownie points. A while back you sent me a list of your posts, with post numbers, so that I could include them in the FFL index I was working on. I gave up on that project because it was too time-consuming and instead started an index that everyone could work on. I started adding your posts to it. If you would like to continue, it's at http://tinyurl.com/9olk9 Thanks. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Ramana Maharshi's 4 Technologies of Evolution (was: The New Advaitins)
--- Michael Dean Goodman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [Michael's commentary: > This is where many long-term TM meditators are at, > in my experience. > They have had so much meditative experience that > they are There. But > they hold onto the belief that they are still on the > path, due to so > many years or decades of commitment to seeking. So > many meditators > that I've met have made it, are Self-realized, but > they are mistakenly > waiting for some special experience, or some > relative sign or symptom, > that they've gotten into their head will be the > special sign of en- > lightenment. They believe that experience, which is > in the relative, > which comes and goes, will somehow herald the > non-experience, non-rel- > ative, continuum of the Self. Self-inquiry, for > just a few minutes, > reveals to them that they are There. They laugh, > they cry, they re- > joice to see how simple it is and how complicated > they were making it. > It is a remarkable moment to witness, when > understanding catches up > to experience and becomes whole. Great post, Michael. Just wanted to add my two rupees. All the decades of meditation lead to incredible sattva, but not yet enlightenment because of the thinnest thread of attachment to a concept of enlightenment (i.e., enlightenment is some thing/experience). I believe this is why so many longtime TMer's just explode open when they have conntact with other gurus. If I was to critique MMY, it would only be his lack of direct contact with us, the rank-and-file meditators. Maharishi! We needed you around, man! We needed that darshan of Brahman. __ Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year. http://brand.yahoo.com/cybergivingweek2005/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Ramana Maharshi's 4 Technologies of Evolution (was: The New Advaitins)
On Jan 3, 2006, at 1:16 PM, Michael Dean Goodman wrote:So I (Ramana) do Self-inquiry (Atma-vichara = inquiry into the Self, At- man) with them. Ah, he does it WITH them. There it is. There's the transmission of the state. That's his "pointing out instruction".Thanks for sharing that.Did he really call these "technologies"? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
