Re: [Felvtalk] Valentino Please add to the CLS :(
I'm so sorry, Sherry. t --- On Fri, 2/13/09, Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Valentino Please add to the CLS :( To: Felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, February 13, 2009, 8:34 PM We lost another one of our special Sids kids yesterday.Valentino was a BIG sweet loverboy who ALWAYS had a purr for us (and happy farts).He ended up blind about a month ago and was doing pretty good,but the virus took over and he just could not take anymore. May he enjoy all the kitty treats he can now. Sherry We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Valentino Please add to the CLS :(
I'm so sorry, Sherry. Valentino does sound a real lover boy. (How strange that he should pass away right before Valentine's day.) I'm glad that he was so loved and cared for, especially as his health deteriorated. You're an angel for all you do for our furbabes in need, Sherry. Happy Valentines Day. Kerry M. From: Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com To: Felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 7:34:05 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Valentino Please add to the CLS :( We lost another one of our special Sids kids yesterday.Valentino was a BIG sweet loverboy who ALWAYS had a purr for us (and happy farts).He ended up blind about a month ago and was doing pretty good,but the virus took over and he just could not take anymore. May he enjoy all the kitty treats he can now. Sherry We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey
AT WHAT AGE DID YOUR CAT BECOME FeLV POSITIVE? Diagnosed at 2.5 yo WHAT TREATMENTS DID YOU DO/ARE DOING? I didn't do anything until he became symptomatic at 4.5 yo, which is when I found this list WHAT FOOD DO/DID YOU FEED? Science Diet then; Innova Evo now WHAT LIFESTYLE DO YOUR CATS LEAD, E.G; INDOOR, OUTDOOR/BOTH? Mine are all indoor; I let them go in the backyard with me sometimes, but only under supervision LIVE WITH OTHER CATS OR NOT? My FeLV+ did live in the house with my 3 others, none of which became positive; they were vaccinated HAS YOUR CAT HAD/HAVE ANY OTHER ILLNESSES AND OR STRESS IN LIFE? At 2.5 yo, when he was diagnosed, he had all his nails ripped out from running from a dog, going up a brick column trying to get away. His nails got infected, and he got very sick, which the vet didn't catch. He just ran tests and said FeLV+, and gave up on him. I finally figured out what happened when the vet had tested him for FeLV and then just left him in his cage with no treatment, even after I asked him to give IV fluids if he wasn't taking water, which he wasn't. I had a horrible gut feeling, and left work to go check on him, and found him lying in his cage, almost lifeless, no fight left in him, and the vet wasn't taking care of him. Took him home with anti-biotics and nursed him back to health with fluids and assist feeding every hour or so, and antibiotics. I noticed his feet then, and realized what must have happened. He was fine for another two years, until a hurricane hit Texas and my ex-husband's family came to stay with us for a week (10 of them) and it stressed my kitty out and he developed anemia. He died about three weeks later. WHAT AGE IS YOUR CAT NOW? OR WHEN THEY DIED? 4.5 yo WHAT DID THEY DIE OF? anemia. I did not treat with doxycycline for hemobart at the time. Had I a do-over, I certainly would have. Strongly suspect he might have had hemobart, but at the time, I did not know about hemobart, and frankly was overwhelmed trying to help him and deal with his illness and quick demise. It was heartbreaking. ___ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] OT: My Mother went to the Rainbow Bridge
Terrie, I am so sorry to hear about your mother's passing. You have been such a kind and caring, not to mention valuable, member of this group. I pray that all your kindnesses are repaid in the way of comfort and peace for you while grieving the passing of your mother. She must have been some lady to have raised a woman like you. God bless you and your family, Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ From: tatorb...@aol.com tatorb...@aol.com To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 11:50:08 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] OT: My Mother went to the Rainbow Bridge Hello everyone, I'm letting everyone know this is part of my grieving and makes me feel little better. To let you know the situation if I don't respond right away to prior emails. Another email was sent to all the rescues groups of the same wording. Many of you have ask about my mother and sent many prayers by emails, phone calls, also in person to my mother and myself. With great sadness in my heart today my mother passed away this morning. As she wished she wants to be cremated and be buried with my father. I spent many hours with her the last few days only home long enough to feed and do litter boxes. She was an avid animal lover especially when it came to cats and kittens. She was a reputable breeder from the 60's to early 80's. Her breed was Siamese and Persian cats. In the last 20 years she chose to take homeless and rescue kitties into her home. They were given very much needed love and care. When she would come to visit me as she was in a convalescent home during the last year she would get her kitty fixes by coming to my home. She would call all of the rescue cats and kittens to her along with my personal kitties. So she could be around them all and give them plenty of love. She took such pleasure in this. She would spoil them greatly. Even feeding them such as turkey, chicken, and beef when she could get away with it. Her services will be at a later date. I will let you all know. My brother is putting article in the local newspaper about her within the next day or two. Thanks again for all your support in the past and present regarding my mother! Please vote! _http://www.care2.com/animalsheltercontest/69145_ (http://www.care2.com/animalsheltercontest/69145) Tazzys Animal Transports/Siamese and Collie Rescue Sultan, WA 98294 TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE _http://tazzys.org/_ (http://tazzys.org/index.html) Board Member for national rescue. _http://www.hurricanepetsrescue.org/_ (http://www.hurricanepetsrescue.org/) OTRA VERIFIED TRANSPORTER (On The Road Again) Terrie Mohr-Forker Copyright © 2007-2008 Tazzy's.org. All rights reserved. **From Wall Street to Main Street and everywhere in between, stay up-to-date with the latest news. (http://aol.com?ncid=emlcntaolcom0023) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Our scare with Maggie last night 2-10
I'm not sure i my other went out or not. I included a pic of our Maggie and it got bounced. Never heard back about it. So here it is again. So we adopted a kitten back in early August named Maggie. About 6 weeks or so after we brought her home she began having some problems with gingivitis, sneezing and swollen lymph nodes. We took her in and had her retested for feline leukemia. She tested positive, we then waited 12 weeks and tested again). We were heartbroken. We decided to keep her because we love her and she deserves to live even though most vets recommend euthanasia. As long as her quality of life is good she will always have a home with us! We had another test (IFA) done on her to see if she was one of the lucky kittens who can fight off the disease before it sets into the bone marrow, but no luck she had a very strong positive. Anyway we boostered our other cat Sasha's vaccines since it can be contagious and decided to let it be in God's hands. Yesterday 2-10 we had a terrible scare with her. She had been kind of hiding like she didn't feel well all weekend and then she stopped eating, drinking, and going to the bathroom Saturday night. Yesterday morning she was very lethargic and had really labored breathing so I took her to my work at the animal hospital. Her blood pressure was so low we barely got any blood for a panel and xrays showed heavy congestion around her lungs. Typical for a FELV cat. The doctor didn't give us much hope. She said that even if she could fight off the infection the hard part is getting the to eat and drink again. Around 9 pm we talked about taking her to the animal emergency center because her breathing was so bad but decided to see if she would make it through the night and if so take her first thing in the morning. I really thought she wouldn't make it through the night. We started her on Lasix last night and this morning she was bright, alert, and my normal happy little girl. She started eating and drinking again. She is using her litter box and her breathing is almost perfectly normal again. It is nothing short of a miracle, even her vet is amazed. Go Maggie!! God isn't ready for her to chase mice in heaven yet, she has plenty left to catch right here! I am so thankful that she is pulling through. She is too young for her life here on earth to be over. Tanya ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine as a supplement
I have personally witnessed Lysine clear up a corneal ulcer in my kitten that the meds the vet prescribed would not clear up. She was off all other meds, on the lysine for 10-14 days, and it started going away. Thank God because she'd already lost one eye to an ulcer before I adopted her. I assume, but can't say, that both ulcers were most likely caused by the herpes virus. Plus, lysine is an amino acid and does boost the immune system (or at the very least maintains it) in the way it operates in the body. It helps to build proteins, etc., as well as keep viruses from replicating. This is what I wrote back in August regarding this issue: There are 20 (or 21 depending on the source) different amino acids in our bodies. One of them is L-lysine. All cells in every organism (plants, animals, etc.) use these amino acids to make proteins. A single antibody molecule (PART OF THE IMMUNE SYSTEM) contains about 1,400 amino acids+. If our bodies are low in lysine (and remember, our bodies CANNOT make lysine {but plants can}), then a reduction in lysine would = a lowered immune system because the chain of proteins that make up the antibody molecules is weakened. Here is an article you can wade through that talks about antibodies: http://www.cehs.siu.edu/fix/medmicro/igs.htm This is why lysine is given to people to help recuperate after surgery or injury as it is necessary for tissue repair and growth. It's also necessary in the production of antibodies (used by the immune system to seek out and identify bacteria and viruses in our bodies). It's a building block of our very cells. And therefore it IS linked to the immune system, and I would assume, immune system boosting if the immune system is weak. Every health food company that sells lysine quips that it is an immune system boosting amino acid. Lysine deficiencies have been shown in HIV patients in Africa, so I think that it's possible that even though FeLV is not HIV, it is a virus, so maybe our furry friends may also be low in the essential amino acid because of the virus. I don't think the studies have been done on this particular issue. And if anyone knows of any, please post them. As I said before, I'm not a doctor, vet, or scientist. But I can research, read, and use my common sense to make logical inferences. I don't believe there are any studies to show that link lysine to the immune system because, from what I understand, it's common knowledge in the science/medical world. It would be like trying to find studies linking blood to the heart. :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ From: gary gcru...@centurytel.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, February 9, 2009 1:16:18 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine as a supplement I can't comment on the study as I haven't seen it, but lysine is recommended by many feline opthamologists for the treatment of herpes. It is also in the Merck Veterinary Manual. Also, I have 2 cats with this condition and lysine keeps their eyes clear. If I stop the lysine the eyes get runny again. Gary -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of patricia.a.elk...@gsk.com Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 10:32 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lysine as a supplement My vet opthamologist here in Philly, Dr. Glickstein, told me that he was aware of only one controlled study on the effects of L-lysine on herpes. He said that the study showed that L-lysine did keep cats from getting their first herpes infection but that it had absolutely no effect on subsequent infections or outbreaks. Apparently these are not the same results that are seen in human trials where it is belived to be effective on continuing outbreaks. I know that many many people believe that they have seen results with its use in cats however in ammeliorating a herpes outbreak. L-lysine is not a general immune booster, it is primarily effective against herpes virus (which sometimes causes URI like symptoms and runny eyes) by suppressing the L-arginine that herpes virus needs in order to replicate. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Interesting response from ASPCA vet
I am no fan of the ASPCA, but I heard this woman talk at a presentation and enjoyed her talk. I had a foster hold two pos kitties for transport to a sanctuary and she wanted to know about disinfecting the bathrooms, so I wrote to the ASPCA vet, Dr Miranda Spindel. It seems to be what we have been saying all along and not what Cornell says. She states: Feline leukemia virus is really an easy virus to kill in the environment. Not only that, the virus is what we call very labile...meaning it lives for only a short time (probably minutes) outside the cat. So my suggestion would be to clean with 1:32 bleach anyway (it can't hurt if there was another pathogen present) but not to worry very much about this virus when bringing in new rescues. Wood and wallpaper aren't ideal, but if the wood is sealed and painted (in a bathroom it probably is) it is usually pretty sanitizable. -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Help with medical expenses for two very special kitties! http://rescuties.chipin.com/medical-expenses Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org