Re: [Felvtalk] for Melinda

2010-09-19 Thread Lorrie
Hi Melinda,

I know how difficult, if not impossible, it is to keep cats
inside.  We have 13 rescued cats who had all been outside cats
before we rescued them.

We moved where we are because our house is on a dead end street with
no traffic and we are surrounded by woods.  Therefore, when our cats
escape, which they often do I don't worry as much. In other words I
think it all depends on your area. If it's safe, and Fuji is unhappy
being confined inside. I'd let her have some freedom outside.  I know
a lot of people in the group won't agree with me, but this works for
me, and my cats are always inside at night.  I don't feed them after 
about 3:00 pm so they are hungry and come dashing in before dark.

Lorrie


On 09-18, Melinda Kerr wrote:

 I forgot to add that on our very small base there are no wild
 animals, most strays are caught almost immediately ( Fuji is
 collared and chipped) and the likelihood of Fuji coming across and
 getting into a confrontation with another cat are very slim.  Most
 people who have cats brought them from the states and have already
 had them vaccinated.  Again, very few are actually let out.  The
 speed limit on most of the base is less than 40 kilometers per hour
 (about 25 mph.) I know there are a lot of things she can come
 across if she goes outside.  I'll probably keep trying to sit out
 with her as I have done since she got sick.  However, if she
 occasionally manages to escape my clutches, I won't worry too much! 
 She stays pretty close and always comes home in a couple of hours. 
 I really am trying to do my best to keep her healthy and happy.
 
 Thanks again for your input and concern.  
 
 Melinda and Fuji  
 On Sep 18, 2010, at 6:49 AM, Cougar Clan wrote:
 
  Suggestion:  Fix her a secure kennel outside.  I put up a 12x12x6 foot 
  kennel with a topper (anything, including a tarp, will work.  I used left 
  over chain link).  Daddy had a piece of ductwork fixed so Ebony and Mi Tu 
  could go to a window in a bath, go through a pet door, walk out in the 
  ductwork and down a ramp into a kennel fitted with plastic milk crates and 
  other toys.   Both cats were FeLV-, healthy and wonderful.  Ebony had 
  been a street cat until about age 3 +.  He became a yard cat then an inside 
  outside cat then he and I moved and he needed to be an inside cat with a 
  play area.  The cost was less than $300 and I rested secure in the 
  knowledge that Ebony (who was getting older) and Mi Tu (who had never lived 
  inside) had a safe place to go.
  
  If you just let her go you are endangering other cats she may come into 
  contact with.  You may be subjecting her to a painful death too.  If she 
  becomes sick, other animals will prey on her.  I'll leave the details to 
  you.  I don't tell you this to scare you but to be sure you realize what 
  you may be doing.  Dixie was grown when she can into my life.  She was 
  FeLV+ and very alone.  She became a garage cat then a house trailer cat 
  then a two house cat who had everything.  I thought about just letting her 
  go but could not do that to the other cats that depended on me...nor 
  could I face what might happen to her.  We live in the country with dogs, 
  coyotes, hawks and.well, you get the idea.
  
  With a lot of stress-reducers, your little one will adjust.  Actually, 
  getting a companion who is FELV+ may be the best answer.
  
  
  On Sep 17, 2010, at 4:33 PM, Melinda Kerr wrote:
  
  Hello all,
  
  I haven't really posted much and I've never actually shared my story.  I 
  will be brief now and say that I have a 15 month young kitty who is FeLV 
  positive and receiving Chemo for mediastinal lymphoma.  The problem is, 
  she doesn't know that she is supposed to be sick.  At this time there are 
  no outward signs of illness.  She was allowed outside for a couple of 
  hours at a time, never overnight and always staying close to home.  Now, I 
  try to limit her to outside time with close supervision.  However, she has 
  started to push the boundaries and is running and hiding from me.  I know 
  she is trying to play with me and alleviate some of her boredom.  She 
  spends the day begging to go out, crying meee u, all day long.  
  She races us to the door and bites at our ankles to try to get out.  I'm 
  faced with the decision of just letting her go because her quality of 
  life seems to depend on it.  She is otherwise quite content.  I am leaning 
  toward giving her more outside time and
   dealing with the consequences.  Her chances at a long life are very limited 
 anyway and I feel that I should try to make her happy.
  
  Am I wrong to feel this way?
  
  Melinda and Fuji
  
  On Sep 18, 2010, at 2:52 AM, Bonnie Hogue wrote:
  
  Yes, Natalie.  I have one little lady who is a rehabilitated feral.  
  She raised a litter of kittens down by the creek.  Some kind people 
  trapped them and found homes for thekittens, but no one wanted mama cat.  
  She's a lovely brushed coat 

Re: [Felvtalk] for Melinda

2010-09-19 Thread Belinda Sauro
You can always build an enclosure to let them have some outside time.  
After 3 of ours all indoor all of their lives pushed out a screen and 
got out, one Bailey kept wanting to go out, so after him driving us nuts 
for a month or so rolling in front of the door and trying to get out 
every chance he had we decided to build an enclosure.  It is off out 
back door and we have a pet door in the kitchen window that they use.  
It is 21 feet by 22 feet in size and 8 feet high, our back door opens 
out to it and we and the kitties can spend time outside anytime they 
want, the top is covered with chicken wire to keep them in and the hawks 
out.  They love it!!!


Here are some pictures, this is before we added the pet door in the 
kitchen window and the steps leading up to it.


http://www.bemikitties.com/cgi-bin/photo/index.cgi?mode=viewalbum=/Kitty-Play-Pen

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Re: [Felvtalk] for Melinda

2010-09-19 Thread Cougar Clan
I put a 10 x 10 x 6 foot tall kennel on the side porch for Dixie  
Louise Doodle Katt JP as a reward for being very wonderful when Mom  
was in the hospital.  We went out and sat together.  It was a  
wonderful time.  I wish she was still here.

On Sep 19, 2010, at 3:36 PM, Belinda Sauro wrote:

You can always build an enclosure to let them have some outside  
time.  After 3 of ours all indoor all of their lives pushed out a  
screen and got out, one Bailey kept wanting to go out, so after him  
driving us nuts for a month or so rolling in front of the door and  
trying to get out every chance he had we decided to build an  
enclosure.  It is off out back door and we have a pet door in the  
kitchen window that they use.  It is 21 feet by 22 feet in size and  
8 feet high, our back door opens out to it and we and the kitties  
can spend time outside anytime they want, the top is covered with  
chicken wire to keep them in and the hawks out.  They love it!!!


Here are some pictures, this is before we added the pet door in the  
kitchen window and the steps leading up to it.


http://www.bemikitties.com/cgi-bin/photo/index.cgi?mode=viewalbum=/Kitty-Play-Pen

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Re: [Felvtalk] for Melinda

2010-09-19 Thread Bonnie Hogue
What a wonderful structure!  I've always dreamed of having something like 
that for my cats.  But they are all older now and don't ask to go out so 
much.  My one girl, Stormy, does dash out every now and then.  She goes 
directly under the deck...how much fun is that?  She comes out covered in 
cobwebs after about 20 minutes!

~Bonnie
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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] for Melinda


You can always build an enclosure to let them have some outside time. 
After 3 of ours all indoor all of their lives pushed out a screen and got 
out, one Bailey kept wanting to go out, so after him driving us nuts for a 
month or so rolling in front of the door and trying to get out every 
chance he had we decided to build an enclosure.  It is off out back door 
and we have a pet door in the kitchen window that they use.  It is 21 feet 
by 22 feet in size and 8 feet high, our back door opens out to it and we 
and the kitties can spend time outside anytime they want, the top is 
covered with chicken wire to keep them in and the hawks out.  They love 
it!!!


Here are some pictures, this is before we added the pet door in the 
kitchen window and the steps leading up to it.


http://www.bemikitties.com/cgi-bin/photo/index.cgi?mode=viewalbum=/Kitty-Play-Pen

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