Re: Extend compliance document

2005-08-10 Thread Jeremias Maerki
Cool. Just yell if you need help.

On 10.08.2005 14:21:14 Patrick Paul wrote:
> Thank you for the tip !
> 
> I will follow your advice and start by familiarizing myself with the 
> layout engine and existing documentation in the next few days. Then I 
> will get down to work ;-)
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Patrick Paul
> 
> Jeremias Maerki wrote:
> 
> >A couple of additional things that could be investigated and documented
> >(in the compliance document and with test cases):
> >- keeps with .within-line (i.e. inline keeps)
> >- the amount of space resolution we do (probably not so much and not too
> >good, see space-before/after.conditionality)
> >
> >On 09.08.2005 17:14:55 Jeremias Maerki wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>Welcome!
> >>
> >>What I didn't tell you earlier today when you wrote to me was that
> >>Manuel Mall and I have already done most of that work during the last
> >>few days. There are still a few TODO items in the compliance document
> >>itself some of which Manuel already addressed by writing testcase. There
> >>are certainly a few other details left to be sorted out but I think
> >>we're almost fine. However, having test cases especially for certain
> >>properties (like baseline-shift and the whole whitespace-related set of
> >>properties) would be really good to have.
> >>
> >>What I would like to suggest to you is that you set up FOP Trunk (from
> >>SVN) on your machine together with the latest Forrest release.
> >>
> >>Docs on doc management are here:
> >>http://xml.apache.org/fop/dev/doc.html
> >>
> >>When you're done with that familiarize yourself with the layout engine
> >>test cases in the test/layoutengine directory. The following Wiki page
> >>will help you understand who that stuff works:
> >>http://wiki.apache.org/xmlgraphics-fop/HowToCreateLayoutEngineTests
> >>
> >>About how to find out about the capabilities of FOP trunk is not quite
> >>straight-forward because we obviously don't have too much documentation,
> >>yet? :-) Source of information are the layout engine test cases, the
> >>source code and us developers. Don't hesitate to ask questions. We're
> >>glad to have people around us to help us.
> >>
> >>I assume you're already a FOP user, so if you have FO documents to run
> >>through FOP, please do that and help us identify problem points.
> >>Creating isolated, minimal test cases out of these problems is a big
> >>step towards documenting and fixing them.
> >>
> >>On 09.08.2005 16:57:52 Patrick Paul wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Hi,
> >>>
> >>>My name is Patrick Paul and I just joined the fop-dev mailing list.
> >>>
> >>>As a first contribution to the project, I would like to extend the 
> >>>compliance document to show 1.0dev capabilities and allow comparison 
> >>>between 0.20.5 and 1.0dev.
> >>>
> >>>Afterwards I  hope to extend the documentation in general.
> >>>
> >>>For now, I have the following question: where do I get the information 
> >>>about the capabilities of FOP-1.0dev ?
> >>>
> >>>Patrick Paul
> >>>  
> >>>
> >>
> >>Jeremias Maerki
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >Jeremias Maerki
> >
> >
> >  
> >



Jeremias Maerki



Re: Extend compliance document

2005-08-10 Thread Patrick Paul

Thank you for the tip !

I will follow your advice and start by familiarizing myself with the 
layout engine and existing documentation in the next few days. Then I 
will get down to work ;-)


Regards,

Patrick Paul

Jeremias Maerki wrote:


A couple of additional things that could be investigated and documented
(in the compliance document and with test cases):
- keeps with .within-line (i.e. inline keeps)
- the amount of space resolution we do (probably not so much and not too
good, see space-before/after.conditionality)

On 09.08.2005 17:14:55 Jeremias Maerki wrote:
 


Welcome!

What I didn't tell you earlier today when you wrote to me was that
Manuel Mall and I have already done most of that work during the last
few days. There are still a few TODO items in the compliance document
itself some of which Manuel already addressed by writing testcase. There
are certainly a few other details left to be sorted out but I think
we're almost fine. However, having test cases especially for certain
properties (like baseline-shift and the whole whitespace-related set of
properties) would be really good to have.

What I would like to suggest to you is that you set up FOP Trunk (from
SVN) on your machine together with the latest Forrest release.

Docs on doc management are here:
http://xml.apache.org/fop/dev/doc.html

When you're done with that familiarize yourself with the layout engine
test cases in the test/layoutengine directory. The following Wiki page
will help you understand who that stuff works:
http://wiki.apache.org/xmlgraphics-fop/HowToCreateLayoutEngineTests

About how to find out about the capabilities of FOP trunk is not quite
straight-forward because we obviously don't have too much documentation,
yet? :-) Source of information are the layout engine test cases, the
source code and us developers. Don't hesitate to ask questions. We're
glad to have people around us to help us.

I assume you're already a FOP user, so if you have FO documents to run
through FOP, please do that and help us identify problem points.
Creating isolated, minimal test cases out of these problems is a big
step towards documenting and fixing them.

On 09.08.2005 16:57:52 Patrick Paul wrote:
   


Hi,

My name is Patrick Paul and I just joined the fop-dev mailing list.

As a first contribution to the project, I would like to extend the 
compliance document to show 1.0dev capabilities and allow comparison 
between 0.20.5 and 1.0dev.


Afterwards I  hope to extend the documentation in general.

For now, I have the following question: where do I get the information 
about the capabilities of FOP-1.0dev ?


Patrick Paul
 



Jeremias Maerki
   





Jeremias Maerki


 





Re: Extend compliance document

2005-08-10 Thread Jeremias Maerki
A couple of additional things that could be investigated and documented
(in the compliance document and with test cases):
- keeps with .within-line (i.e. inline keeps)
- the amount of space resolution we do (probably not so much and not too
good, see space-before/after.conditionality)

On 09.08.2005 17:14:55 Jeremias Maerki wrote:
> Welcome!
> 
> What I didn't tell you earlier today when you wrote to me was that
> Manuel Mall and I have already done most of that work during the last
> few days. There are still a few TODO items in the compliance document
> itself some of which Manuel already addressed by writing testcase. There
> are certainly a few other details left to be sorted out but I think
> we're almost fine. However, having test cases especially for certain
> properties (like baseline-shift and the whole whitespace-related set of
> properties) would be really good to have.
> 
> What I would like to suggest to you is that you set up FOP Trunk (from
> SVN) on your machine together with the latest Forrest release.
> 
> Docs on doc management are here:
> http://xml.apache.org/fop/dev/doc.html
> 
> When you're done with that familiarize yourself with the layout engine
> test cases in the test/layoutengine directory. The following Wiki page
> will help you understand who that stuff works:
> http://wiki.apache.org/xmlgraphics-fop/HowToCreateLayoutEngineTests
> 
> About how to find out about the capabilities of FOP trunk is not quite
> straight-forward because we obviously don't have too much documentation,
> yet? :-) Source of information are the layout engine test cases, the
> source code and us developers. Don't hesitate to ask questions. We're
> glad to have people around us to help us.
> 
> I assume you're already a FOP user, so if you have FO documents to run
> through FOP, please do that and help us identify problem points.
> Creating isolated, minimal test cases out of these problems is a big
> step towards documenting and fixing them.
> 
> On 09.08.2005 16:57:52 Patrick Paul wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > My name is Patrick Paul and I just joined the fop-dev mailing list.
> > 
> > As a first contribution to the project, I would like to extend the 
> > compliance document to show 1.0dev capabilities and allow comparison 
> > between 0.20.5 and 1.0dev.
> > 
> > Afterwards I  hope to extend the documentation in general.
> > 
> > For now, I have the following question: where do I get the information 
> > about the capabilities of FOP-1.0dev ?
> > 
> > Patrick Paul
> 
> 
> 
> Jeremias Maerki



Jeremias Maerki



Re: Extend compliance document

2005-08-09 Thread Jeremias Maerki
Welcome!

What I didn't tell you earlier today when you wrote to me was that
Manuel Mall and I have already done most of that work during the last
few days. There are still a few TODO items in the compliance document
itself some of which Manuel already addressed by writing testcase. There
are certainly a few other details left to be sorted out but I think
we're almost fine. However, having test cases especially for certain
properties (like baseline-shift and the whole whitespace-related set of
properties) would be really good to have.

What I would like to suggest to you is that you set up FOP Trunk (from
SVN) on your machine together with the latest Forrest release.

Docs on doc management are here:
http://xml.apache.org/fop/dev/doc.html

When you're done with that familiarize yourself with the layout engine
test cases in the test/layoutengine directory. The following Wiki page
will help you understand who that stuff works:
http://wiki.apache.org/xmlgraphics-fop/HowToCreateLayoutEngineTests

About how to find out about the capabilities of FOP trunk is not quite
straight-forward because we obviously don't have too much documentation,
yet? :-) Source of information are the layout engine test cases, the
source code and us developers. Don't hesitate to ask questions. We're
glad to have people around us to help us.

I assume you're already a FOP user, so if you have FO documents to run
through FOP, please do that and help us identify problem points.
Creating isolated, minimal test cases out of these problems is a big
step towards documenting and fixing them.

On 09.08.2005 16:57:52 Patrick Paul wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> My name is Patrick Paul and I just joined the fop-dev mailing list.
> 
> As a first contribution to the project, I would like to extend the 
> compliance document to show 1.0dev capabilities and allow comparison 
> between 0.20.5 and 1.0dev.
> 
> Afterwards I  hope to extend the documentation in general.
> 
> For now, I have the following question: where do I get the information 
> about the capabilities of FOP-1.0dev ?
> 
> Patrick Paul



Jeremias Maerki