[fossil-users] Segfaults on Solaris when serving a directory

2011-02-21 Thread Petr Man 
Hello,
I have been successfully using Fossil on SunOS 5.10/sparc for over six
months. I wanted to set up a permanent cgi server this morning, but I
am getting core dumps when I try to serve a directory with fossil
files. With a separate cgi script for each repo, everything works
flawlessly. I would like to debug the problem, but unfortunately I
don't have a debugger on the machine. Is anyone able to help?
Petr
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Re: [fossil-users] Segfaults on Solaris when serving a directory

2011-02-21 Thread Mark Janssen 
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Petr Man  wrote:
> Hello,
> I have been successfully using Fossil on SunOS 5.10/sparc for over six
> months. I wanted to set up a permanent cgi server this morning, but I
> am getting core dumps when I try to serve a directory with fossil
> files. With a separate cgi script for each repo, everything works
> flawlessly. I would like to debug the problem, but unfortunately I
> don't have a debugger on the machine. Is anyone able to help?
> Petr
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Do the fossil repos have the extension .fossil? If not then you will
get a segfault.

Regards,
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Re: [fossil-users] Segfaults on Solaris when serving a directory

2011-02-21 Thread Petr Man 
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 11:34, Mark Janssen  wrote:
> Do the fossil repos have the extension .fossil? If not then you will
> get a segfault.

Hello Mark,
the repos have .fossil extension. I have just tried on my Linux laptop
and I am experiencing the same issue.
My setup looks exactly as the wiki page says. I am running [6502627a3e].
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Re: [fossil-users] Wiki index pages

2011-02-21 Thread Carlo A. Bertelli (Charta s.r.l.) 
Well, the real subject should be "fossil is not a CMS and, by the way,
not a blog".
Anyway, there is no "wiki" table; in a previous version I was able to
modify the title of one of the wiki pages via sql, but I don't
remember how (maybe I dreamed of doing it!).
As I said, suggesting to change the subject, maybe this is only due to
misunderstanding the concepts behind the design of fossil, but I'm not
able to produce a meaningful documentation out of fossil.
The subject I'm working on (more of a generic research effort than a
software project per se) does not have a "plan of the documentation"
which grows by several "threads" (resources, tools, methods,
activities -- and code is under resources and tools) so I should
manage a work-in-progress that is very difficult to manage by itself.
Someone could suggest to let fossil alone and use another tool, but
maybe my questions could be useful for others who are writing
documentation for very chaotic development processes.
There are several issues:

* handling of wiki pages by tag or hierarchical structure
Based on SQLite, so being intrinsically relational, fossil is a good
candidate for hypertextual and structured web pages.
Usually CMSs have a hierarchical structure, so the pathway to one
content is stictly:
home/vegetables/potatoes/chips
on a relational/tag based structure you could have branches:
home/vegetables/potatoes/chips
  +recipes/fried/--+
so that the user could choose a different path.
CMS solve this issue with adjacency lists, fossil could use the same
type of structure used for handling branches, but in another way (and
with another meaning).
Unfortunately using tags to handle contents which are mainly
hierarchical or ask for a multiple hierarchical structure is not a
simple task.

* events (and tags)
 The same is true on events, which could be used for news/blogs on
advancement of the project.
Use of tags here is not a substitute for a title. A title as "artifact
xxyy..." is not very friendly. If you announce something you usually
say with a bold title and than explain what's happening...
Maybe it's only my fault, but the web interface does not help to add
any title afterwords.

* timeline and metadata
Timeline is not your friend if you correct typos or change the
formatting of your pages. It seems you are changing something
important and you are only adding a comma or changing the case of one
letter. Fossil doesn't know, so it diligently records all your acts.
There should be a way to tell it not to care for this sort of things
or maybe help it to filter out this sort of events. Am I missing
something?
Metadata (comment, tags) are easily added when you checkin new files,
it's not the same on web. I would like to add metadata later and maybe
delete or hide the timeline items which are due to minor corrections.
Is it possibile? Could it become easier?

* search by tag (and order)
Obviously having things organized by tag and even hierarchically,
there is an order in content, so it could be useful (and for me it's
useful indeed) to be able to set the order of the tagged/hierarchical
content. Obviously some table is needed that handles the recursive
relation inside content, one of the columns imho should help to keep
order, an order which is not a chronological one, usually, as in web
content, you work on detail and then link details with a statement of
more general value. Isn't it?


I'm sorry for the very long message, any of these items could as well
become a message by itself, but I had to keep all together to explain
the experience and, maybe, give suggestions for future develompents on
these issues.
As I said the first time, I'm not sure if all this mess is only due to
a misunderstanding on my side. After looking at the documentation it
seems that these issues really exist, but still I'm not sure.
What is sure is that the repository for www.fossil-scm.org mainly use
wiki files and not the internal wiki, so the structure is somehow
indipended and could be versioned as in a standard scm.
I need to have some content on the first page, optimally with an sql
query (a view?) and maybe with a th macro that shows the main pages
for any of the four areas of documentation and the list of a few
timeline events, and I need to handle the pages with the internal wiki
structure, because the members of the group are not able to do
otherwise.


On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 Stephen De Gabrielle wrote:
> Sorry I don't know the answer, but I note that the fossil site does
> have a list of all pages. I don't know if that is manual or automatic.
>
> Another thing I noticed recently is the tickets report authoring can
> query arbitrary tables, but I don't know if there is a 'wiki' table.
>
> Cheers,
> Stephen
>
>
> On Thursday, February 10, 2011, Carlo A. Bertelli
>  wrote:
> > Hello,
> > maybe it's my fault, but I haven't found a way to build indexes of
> > wiki pages by tag or subject.
> > Is there a built-in faciity, a suggested th1 way or it's better to

Re: [fossil-users] Segfaults on Solaris when serving a directory

2011-02-21 Thread Richard Hipp 
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 5:50 AM, Petr Man  wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 11:34, Mark Janssen  wrote:
> > Do the fossil repos have the extension .fossil? If not then you will
> > get a segfault.
>
> Hello Mark,
> the repos have .fossil extension. I have just tried on my Linux laptop
> and I am experiencing the same issue.
>

Please run it in a debugger and let me know where the segfault is occurring.



> My setup looks exactly as the wiki page says. I am running [6502627a3e].
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Re: [fossil-users] Segfaults on Solaris when serving a directory

2011-02-21 Thread Petr Man 
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 07:29:35AM -0500, Richard Hipp wrote:
> Please run it in a debugger and let me know where the segfault is occurring.
> 

Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault.
#0  0x004207aa in process_one_web_page (zNotFound=0x0) at 
./bld/main_.c:896
896 while( zPathInfo[i] && zPathInfo[i]!='/' ){ i++; }

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Re: [fossil-users] eclipse plugin for fossil

2011-02-21 Thread Remigiusz Modrzejewski 

On Feb 21, 2011, at 05:05 , Will West wrote:

> I'm thinking about writing an Eclipse plugin for Fossil, any
> interested collaborators, already started projects, or philosophical
> objections? The third category will be ignored :)

I was thinking about that a few times, but never felt like I have that kind of 
free time.
If you ever get started, I might happen to contribute a little, but don't rely 
on me to seriously push the project forward :/


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Re: [fossil-users] Segfaults on Solaris when serving a directory

2011-02-21 Thread Petr Man 
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 02:00:28PM +0100, Mark Janssen wrote:
> 
> I really does look like your fossil files are not found. I had exactly
> the same crash when my files were called *.fsl. Are the fossil files
> readable by the process running the CGI? Try by making the files and
> containing directory world rw.

I have tripple checked everything, the files have .fossil extension, they are
in very ordinary path and the cgi is running under the same user that owns the
files. In any case, it should not segfault.

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Re: [fossil-users] Segfaults on Solaris when serving a directory

2011-02-21 Thread Richard Hipp 
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 7:46 AM, Petr Man  wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 07:29:35AM -0500, Richard Hipp wrote:
> > Please run it in a debugger and let me know where the segfault is
> occurring.
> >
>
> Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault.
> #0  0x004207aa in process_one_web_page (zNotFound=0x0) at
> ./bld/main_.c:896
> 896 while( zPathInfo[i] && zPathInfo[i]!='/' ){ i++; }
>

Is zPathInfo NULL?  (That would mean that your web server is not setting the
PATH_INFO environment variable.  It is unclear what Fossil ought to do in
that case - print an error message screen of some kind, I suppose.)




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Re: [fossil-users] Segfaults on Solaris when serving a directory

2011-02-21 Thread Richard Hipp 
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 8:05 AM, Petr Man  wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 02:00:28PM +0100, Mark Janssen wrote:
> >
> > I really does look like your fossil files are not found. I had exactly
> > the same crash when my files were called *.fsl. Are the fossil files
> > readable by the process running the CGI? Try by making the files and
> > containing directory world rw.
>
> I have tripple checked everything, the files have .fossil extension, they
> are
> in very ordinary path and the cgi is running under the same user that owns
> the
> files. In any case, it should not segfault.
>

Perhaps http://www.fossil-scm.org/fossil/ci/88383d8d4a will resolve the
segfault.  It is unclear that it will get your site working, though.  Maybe
without the segfault, you'll get an error message that helps pin down the
problem.


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Re: [fossil-users] 3-way merge likely to happen anytime soon?

2011-02-21 Thread Richard Hipp 
Just to clearify, by "3-way merge", you mean a graphical merging tool?  I
ask because Fossil always has done a 3-way merge behind the scenes - it just
doesn't show you what it is doing or give you the opportunity to intervene.

On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Matt Welland  wrote:

> I saw a prior thread on this topic but I am not clear on if any action was
> planned. Not sure yet why but I'm getting a lot more merge conflicts than I
> did with Monotone. If nothing is being worked on I'll make a perl script
> helper as fixing merges by editing the files with markers is really tedious.
> FYI, my preferred three way merge tool is kdiff3 with xxdiff being a close
> follower.
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Re: [fossil-users] 3-way merge likely to happen anytime soon?

2011-02-21 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell 
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 08:23:42AM -0500, Richard Hipp wrote:
> Just to clearify, by "3-way merge", you mean a graphical merging tool?  I
> ask because Fossil always has done a 3-way merge behind the scenes - it just
> doesn't show you what it is doing or give you the opportunity to intervene.

I imagine he refers to add the possibility of launching the user favourite
3-way-merge program in case of conflicts, to avoid the laterresolution through
'<<<' marks.

> On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Matt Welland  wrote:
> 
> > I saw a prior thread on this topic but I am not clear on if any action was
> > planned. Not sure yet why but I'm getting a lot more merge conflicts than I
> > did with Monotone. If nothing is being worked on I'll make a perl script
> > helper as fixing merges by editing the files with markers is really tedious.
> > FYI, my preferred three way merge tool is kdiff3 with xxdiff being a close
> > follower.
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Re: [fossil-users] 3-way merge likely to happen anytime soon?

2011-02-21 Thread Petr Man 
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 08:23:42AM -0500, Richard Hipp wrote:
> Just to clearify, by "3-way merge", you mean a graphical merging tool?  I
> ask because Fossil always has done a 3-way merge behind the scenes - it just
> doesn't show you what it is doing or give you the opportunity to intervene.

I think he means what I asked for about a year ago. Simply an option to skip
the fossil's internal merge and write out the files to merge using external
tools (common ancestor, my revision, remote revision, target file).

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Re: [fossil-users] 3-way merge likely to happen anytime soon?

2011-02-21 Thread Matt Welland 
Yes, sorry to be unclear. As another listee posted, when the internal 3-way
merge fails with conflicts save the three needed files and call the diff
tool of the users preference. Even saving the three files with a clear
naming convention would be fine.

On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 6:23 AM, Richard Hipp  wrote:

> Just to clearify, by "3-way merge", you mean a graphical merging tool?  I
> ask because Fossil always has done a 3-way merge behind the scenes - it just
> doesn't show you what it is doing or give you the opportunity to intervene.
>
> On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Matt Welland  wrote:
>
>> I saw a prior thread on this topic but I am not clear on if any action was
>> planned. Not sure yet why but I'm getting a lot more merge conflicts than I
>> did with Monotone. If nothing is being worked on I'll make a perl script
>> helper as fixing merges by editing the files with markers is really tedious.
>> FYI, my preferred three way merge tool is kdiff3 with xxdiff being a close
>> follower.
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Re: [fossil-users] Segfaults on Solaris when serving a directory

2011-02-21 Thread Petr Man 
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 08:19:19AM -0500, Richard Hipp wrote:
> 
> Perhaps http://www.fossil-scm.org/fossil/ci/88383d8d4a will resolve the
> segfault.  It is unclear that it will get your site working, though.  Maybe
> without the segfault, you'll get an error message that helps pin down the
> problem.

Hello Richard,

that change indeed prevents the segfault. It seems, that lighttpd does not set
this variable. What is fossil expecting there? I guess, that either fossil is
missing something in PATH_INFO, because it now gives me 404 or it still can't
find the files. My cgi:

#!/sa-home/manpetr/bin/fossil
directory: /sa-home/manpetr/fossils

One little thing. When building on SunOS, I always have to add "-ldl -lsocket
-lnsl" to the LIB variable, when I put it in the LIB.SunOS, it does not work
and linking fails.

Regards,
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Re: [fossil-users] 3-way merge likely to happen anytime soon?

2011-02-21 Thread Richard Hipp 
Please let me know if http://www.fossil-scm.org/fossil/info/9b7a6f80b2 works
for you.

On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Matt Welland  wrote:

> Yes, sorry to be unclear. As another listee posted, when the internal 3-way
> merge fails with conflicts save the three needed files and call the diff
> tool of the users preference. Even saving the three files with a clear
> naming convention would be fine.
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 6:23 AM, Richard Hipp  wrote:
>
>> Just to clearify, by "3-way merge", you mean a graphical merging tool?  I
>> ask because Fossil always has done a 3-way merge behind the scenes - it just
>> doesn't show you what it is doing or give you the opportunity to intervene.
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Matt Welland wrote:
>>
>>>  I saw a prior thread on this topic but I am not clear on if any action
>>> was planned. Not sure yet why but I'm getting a lot more merge conflicts
>>> than I did with Monotone. If nothing is being worked on I'll make a perl
>>> script helper as fixing merges by editing the files with markers is really
>>> tedious. FYI, my preferred three way merge tool is kdiff3 with xxdiff being
>>> a close follower.
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Re: [fossil-users] 3-way merge likely to happen anytime soon?

2011-02-21 Thread Petr Man 
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 11:35:03AM -0500, Richard Hipp wrote:
> Please let me know if http://www.fossil-scm.org/fossil/info/9b7a6f80b2 works
> for you.
> 
I guess this closes ticket [427938e2f6].

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Re: [fossil-users] eclipse plugin for fossil

2011-02-21 Thread Steve Dalton 
I'm not an eclipse user any more, but I'd quite like to write an
intellij plugin - I'm sure there are probably some commonalities
between them. Is there currently any sort of java API for fossil?

I notice

http://code.google.com/p/jurassic-fossil/

is Java and is open source, I might pull the source later today and
look at how it's done.

I have another idea for a client for Android which is on a similar
vein - but maybe I'll ask about that in a different thread so as not
to pollute this one.

Will - with your eclipse plugin, maybe a start might be to start up a
fossil repo where people can throw some ideas in (or even just a page
on the main fossil wiki).

Steve


On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 10:53 PM, Remigiusz Modrzejewski
 wrote:
>
> On Feb 21, 2011, at 05:05 , Will West wrote:
>
>> I'm thinking about writing an Eclipse plugin for Fossil, any
>> interested collaborators, already started projects, or philosophical
>> objections? The third category will be ignored :)
>
> I was thinking about that a few times, but never felt like I have that kind 
> of free time.
> If you ever get started, I might happen to contribute a little, but don't 
> rely on me to seriously push the project forward :/
>
>
> Kind regards,
> Remigiusz Modrzejewski
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[fossil-users] Fossil - a sweet spot in the VCS space

2011-02-21 Thread Richard Hipp 
http://blog.mired.org/2011/02/fossil-sweet-spot-in-vcs-space.html

Thanks for the kind review, Mike!
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Re: [fossil-users] eclipse plugin for fossil

2011-02-21 Thread paolo lulli 
I would like to help ...

P.

2011/2/21 Will West 

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Re: [fossil-users] eclipse plugin for fossil

2011-02-21 Thread Bill Whiting 
I can help with testing.  I would very much like to see this done.

//Bill
On 02/21/2011 05:16 PM, paolo lulli wrote:
> I would like to help ...
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> 2011/2/21 Will West mailto:will.o.w...@gmail.com>>
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> I'm thinking about writing an Eclipse plugin for Fossil, any
> interested collaborators, already started projects, or philosophical
> objections? The third category will be ignored :)
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[fossil-users] Restricting trunk checkins

2011-02-21 Thread Ron Aaron 
One feature "missing" from Fossil is a way to restrict checkins on the 'trunk' 
(or other branch) to certain people.

This is necessary in a group where the methodology is for a "gatekeeper" to 
approve integration into the main line of development.

Has there been any thought along those lines?  In my perfect scenario, a 
branch (including trunk) may have an ACL list which would restrict who could 
do what operations on it.

The way I envision it working is that if a branch has an ACL, it would get 
checked against the current user and kind of access, which would be approved 
accordingly.

In current practice, I have two repositories, one with "golden" code and 
another to which any developer can contribute.  This is a little bit painful, 
as you can imagine.

Thoughts?
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[fossil-users] Convert private branch to public?

2011-02-21 Thread Twylite 
Hi,

While experimenting with private branches, I made private a bunch of 
commits that, in retrospect, need to be synced with other repositories.  
Is there any way to convert a private checkin to a regular one that will 
be synced?

Regards,
Twylite



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