Re: [Framers] Text inset links in PDFs in FM 2017 and no updates to purchased version

[Robert Lauriston]

Your friend could get a free trial and see if it has been fixed.

I think I first encountered the bug that made cross-references in text
insets not work in FM6. It was definitely in FM7 since I covered the
workaround in an in-house tech writers' guide I wrote at an old job:

The workaround is to use gotolink and newlink markers instead.

On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 12:34 PM, LGLists  wrote:
> ... According to FM support,
> the bug that caused x-refs from text insets to not be working links in PDFs
> was reported in FM 10 and does not now show up on the list of bugs. This
> makes is sound like it's been fixed. Has anyone has tested this in FM 2017
> to see if links work without having to run a script in FM to get them to
> work? ...
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Re: [Framers] Text inset links in PDFs in FM 2017 and no updates to purchased version

[David Spreadbury]

Tested with FrameMaker 2015
Importing, by reference, a text inset into a FrameMaker file.Text inset had a 
cross reference to a paragraph in another chapter.Created a PDFCross references 
in the PDF worked just fine.The only gotcha would be that the cross-reference 
target must always be present and in the same chapter, otherwise it would have 
to be changed each time. A reference to say a contact page that appears in each 
document and is always in the same chapter, otherwise it will be broken or 
require changing each time.


On Friday, February 3, 2017 2:56 PM, David Spreadbury  
wrote:
 

 Can't answer your first question right now, but i have a few insets i could 
try and see if it works.

On the other issue, I have purchased version of Framemaker 2015 and you need to 
go to the help menu and select Updates. Frame will go out and see check. If 
there are, Frame will let you know.

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
 On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 2:34 PM, LGLists wrote:  Hi All!

 

I'm posting on behalf of someone else who is contemplating taking on some of
my projects. She's getting info from FM support that I'm a little skeptical
about. Sorry to repeat the one item, but I've not heard back. 

 

 

.      I got this a bit wrong the first time, too. According to FM support,
the bug that caused x-refs from text insets to not be working links in PDFs
was reported in FM 10 and does not now show up on the list of bugs. This
makes is sound like it's been fixed. Has anyone has tested this in FM 2017
to see if links work without having to run a script in FM to get them to
work?




.      She was also told that if you purchased a license (not the monthly
subscription) that you did not get an updates or bug fixes. I know that
didn't used to be true. Is it the case that if you purchase a license
without the monthly subscription that you don't get even bug fixes? No a
point releases? Nothing?

 

 

I appreciate any info you folks can share. I've been out of the loop on the
latest and greatest for a while.

 

Thanks for any info you have on this!!

 

~
Linda G. Gallagher


 

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Re: [Framers] Text inset links in PDFs in FM 2017 and no updates to purchased version

[Carol J. Elkins]

At 05:13 PM 2/3/2017, Syed Zaeem Hosain wrote:

Lin Sims said:
> ... and if you stop paying the subscription, you will not be able 
to open or edit your files in Frame anymore.
And right there is the reason for why subscription purchases simply 
cannot be a good idea! IMHO.


Agreed. I was badly caught by not know this when I cancelled my CC 
subscription a few years ago. My licensed versions of Photoshop and 
Illustrator didn't care that the files were created in a newer 
version (other than alerting me to possible consequences) and opened 
them just fine. However, none of my InDesign files would open in my 
older licensed version. I was (at the time) able to find an online 
service that would convert, for free, the files to a format that I 
COULD open, but it was a laborious and irritating waste of time. 
(Plus Rick Q generously helped me out with files that I caught after 
the free service shut down.) How much effort would it have cost Adobe 
to make it abundantly clear that there was no backward compatibility 
to the files created with CC? It would not have taken me long to open 
each of my InDesign files while my subscription was still working and 
downsave them.


Carol


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Re: [Framers] Text inset links in PDFs in FM 2017 and no updates to purchased version

[Syed Zaeem Hosain]

Lin Sims said:
> ... and if you stop paying the subscription, you will not be able to open or 
> edit your files in Frame anymore.

And right there is the reason for why subscription purchases simply cannot be a 
good idea! IMHO.

Z
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Re: [Framers] Text inset links in PDFs in FM 2017 and no updates to purchased version

[LGLists]

David,

 

If you’d be able to test it out without too much bother, we’d appreciate it. 
The new person needs to know for sure if she needs to purchase a script to get 
the links to work.

 

All,

 

If anyone else knows about the text inset links in PDFs, much obliged if you’d 
let us know to save David from having to test it out.

 

Thanks for the answers on the updates. Seems like the perpetual licenses work 
as they always have. I was hard-pressed to believe that you couldn’t get bug 
fixes and general updates. I have FM12 (TCS 5, I think) and have no need to 
upgrade.

 

Thanks all!!

 

~
Linda G. Gallagher


 

From: David Spreadbury [mailto:dspre...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2017 1:57 PM
To: LGLists; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] Text inset links in PDFs in FM 2017 and no updates to 
purchased version

 

Can't answer your first question right now, but i have a few insets i could try 
and see if it works.

 

 

On the other issue, I have purchased version of Framemaker 2015 and you need to 
go to the help menu and select Updates. Frame will go out and see check. If 
there are, Frame will let you know.

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 

 

On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 2:34 PM, LGLists

 wrote:

Hi All!



I'm posting on behalf of someone else who is contemplating taking on some of
my projects. She's getting info from FM support that I'm a little skeptical
about. Sorry to repeat the one item, but I've not heard back. 





.  I got this a bit wrong the first time, too. According to FM support,
the bug that caused x-refs from text insets to not be working links in PDFs
was reported in FM 10 and does not now show up on the list of bugs. This
makes is sound like it's been fixed. Has anyone has tested this in FM 2017
to see if links work without having to run a script in FM to get them to
work?




.  She was also told that if you purchased a license (not the monthly
subscription) that you did not get an updates or bug fixes. I know that
didn't used to be true. Is it the case that if you purchase a license
without the monthly subscription that you don't get even bug fixes? No a
point releases? Nothing?





I appreciate any info you folks can share. I've been out of the loop on the
latest and greatest for a while.



Thanks for any info you have on this!!



~
Linda G. Gallagher




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Re: [Framers] Text inset links in PDFs in FM 2017 and no updates to purchased version

[David Spreadbury]

Can't answer your first question right now, but i have a few insets i could try 
and see if it works.

On the other issue, I have purchased version of Framemaker 2015 and you need to 
go to the help menu and select Updates. Frame will go out and see check. If 
there are, Frame will let you know.

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 2:34 PM, LGLists wrote:   Hi 
All!

 

I'm posting on behalf of someone else who is contemplating taking on some of
my projects. She's getting info from FM support that I'm a little skeptical
about. Sorry to repeat the one item, but I've not heard back. 

 

 

.      I got this a bit wrong the first time, too. According to FM support,
the bug that caused x-refs from text insets to not be working links in PDFs
was reported in FM 10 and does not now show up on the list of bugs. This
makes is sound like it's been fixed. Has anyone has tested this in FM 2017
to see if links work without having to run a script in FM to get them to
work?




.      She was also told that if you purchased a license (not the monthly
subscription) that you did not get an updates or bug fixes. I know that
didn't used to be true. Is it the case that if you purchase a license
without the monthly subscription that you don't get even bug fixes? No a
point releases? Nothing?

 

 

I appreciate any info you folks can share. I've been out of the loop on the
latest and greatest for a while.

 

Thanks for any info you have on this!!

 

~
Linda G. Gallagher


 

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Re: [Framers] Text inset links in PDFs in FM 2017 and no updates to purchased version

[Lin Sims]

I can't speak to the text insets, but as far as the subscription versus
outright license is concerned, I believe the differences are that the
updates/bug fixes are automatically pushed for the subscription, but you
have to download and install for the license; and if you stop paying the
subscription, you will not be able to open or edit your files in Frame
anymore.

On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 3:34 PM, LGLists  wrote:

> Hi All!
>
>
>
> I'm posting on behalf of someone else who is contemplating taking on some
> of
> my projects. She's getting info from FM support that I'm a little skeptical
> about. Sorry to repeat the one item, but I've not heard back.
>
>
>
>
>
> .   I got this a bit wrong the first time, too. According to FM
> support,
> the bug that caused x-refs from text insets to not be working links in PDFs
> was reported in FM 10 and does not now show up on the list of bugs. This
> makes is sound like it's been fixed. Has anyone has tested this in FM 2017
> to see if links work without having to run a script in FM to get them to
> work?
>
>
>
>
> .   She was also told that if you purchased a license (not the monthly
> subscription) that you did not get an updates or bug fixes. I know that
> didn't used to be true. Is it the case that if you purchase a license
> without the monthly subscription that you don't get even bug fixes? No a
> point releases? Nothing?
>
>
>
>
>
> I appreciate any info you folks can share. I've been out of the loop on the
> latest and greatest for a while.
>
>
>
> Thanks for any info you have on this!!
>
>
>
> ~
> Linda G. Gallagher
> 
>
>
>
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[Framers] Text inset links in PDFs in FM 2017 and no updates to purchased version

[LGLists]

Hi All!

 

I'm posting on behalf of someone else who is contemplating taking on some of
my projects. She's getting info from FM support that I'm a little skeptical
about. Sorry to repeat the one item, but I've not heard back. 

 

 

.   I got this a bit wrong the first time, too. According to FM support,
the bug that caused x-refs from text insets to not be working links in PDFs
was reported in FM 10 and does not now show up on the list of bugs. This
makes is sound like it's been fixed. Has anyone has tested this in FM 2017
to see if links work without having to run a script in FM to get them to
work?




.   She was also told that if you purchased a license (not the monthly
subscription) that you did not get an updates or bug fixes. I know that
didn't used to be true. Is it the case that if you purchase a license
without the monthly subscription that you don't get even bug fixes? No a
point releases? Nothing?

 

 

I appreciate any info you folks can share. I've been out of the loop on the
latest and greatest for a while.

 

Thanks for any info you have on this!!

 

~
Linda G. Gallagher


 

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