Re: [Framers] preventing 2-word product name from line breaks ?
Here's an ancient trick - define and import a MIF Fragment that contains only what you want # Hand generated / edited as text ; save as ProdName.mif Super\x11 Widget'> > # end of VariableFormat # Repeat the VariableFormat block to define other variable names & values as needed > # end of VariableFormats # End of MIFFile – Les (long out of the FM / documentation game but still love it and use my FM7 copy as my main doc tool) From: "john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com" To: Monique Semp Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com; Framers Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 4:56 PM Subject: Re: [Framers] preventing 2-word product name from line breaks ? I'm on a closed regulated system...Everything I use has to go through an extended review and UAT process. I cannot install anything on my own. John X Posada SR AML Syst & Ops Supt Data Analyst | Global Risk Analytics | HSBC North America Holdings Inc 330 Madison Ave., NY NY __ Phone Int: 212-525-5483 Ext: 646-735-1857 Fax Conference Bridge - 877-304-0052, Code 74809254 Email john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com __ Protect our environment - please only print this if you have to! From: "Monique Semp" To: "Robert Lauriston" , John X Posada/HBUS/HSBC@HSBC02 Cc: , "Framers" Date: 04/06/2016 04:53 PM Subject: Re: [Framers] preventing 2-word product name from line breaks ? > You have to define it, you have to check it on a few files, you have to > load the three books, you have to replicate t to the books, you have to > copy to the files and you have to check that nothing went wrong. I've been using Leximation's BookVars utility, http://leximation.com/tools/info/bookvars.php, to easily change vars in all a book's files at once. -Monique ** SAVE PAPER - THINK BEFORE YOU PRINT! ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] preventing 2-word product name from line breaks ?
You could always make a "Product-Name-Var.fm" file from a utterly stripped MIF and then manage the BOOK-wide Import that way. Further, if my info design actually kept variables 'discrete' like that (i.e., a file NEVER has a variable it doesn't use) then I'd parse the variable-storage templates to match. That said, I do not see the benefit of chunking (or 'scoping') variable template files. Maybe there's a happy medium between "all variables in one FM" and "each variable in its own FM" approach, but lacking the energy (or confidence?) to find that medium, I'd go with a single file for all. Which is why a good variable-naming convention that's easy to rapidly type to insert (with CTRL+0) is as crucial as it is for conditional names (CTRL+4/5) and style names (CTRL+8/9): if all my variable names have their first two or three characters unique, it's super fast... and thus, I don't care if I have 50 variable definitions in every file. YMMV; and this, of course, doesn't cover situations where, due to reuse strategies, a variable value might not be identical for each FM file in the BOOK file (e.g., a compiled book of product specs where each chapter is a different product name). HTH; David ---- Original Message Subject: Re: [Framers] preventing 2-word product name from line breaks ? From: "Monique Semp" <[1]monique.s...@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, April 06, 2016 5:55 pm > You can update a variable in all .fm files in a .book with a single > import. Yes, but that presupposes that you want *all* the variables from the source file. But in my case, I have different variables in different FrameMaker templates (for frontmatter, ToC, chapters), with only some variables, such as the doc's part number, in all the templates. References 1. mailto:monique.s...@earthlink.net ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] preventing 2-word product name from line breaks ?
Damn...you mean I don't have to do a variable import process on each individual file, file by file? I knew there had to be a way better than doing it 500 times per book. Now you tell me . You do realize that my stated length of time is to to establish, define, and replicate it the first time, right? John X Posada SR AML Syst & Ops Supt Data Analyst | Global Risk Analytics | HSBC North America Holdings Inc 330 Madison Ave., NY NY __ Phone Int: 212-525-5483 Ext: 646-735-1857 Fax Conference Bridge - 877-304-0052, Code 74809254 Email john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com __ Protect our environment - please only print this if you have to! From: Robert Lauriston To: "framers@lists.frameusers.com" Date: 04/06/2016 05:42 PM Subject: Re: [Framers] preventing 2-word product name from line breaks ? Sent by:"Framers" You can update a variable in all .fm files in a .book with a single import. On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 1:14 PM, wrote: > You have to define it, you have to check it on a few files, you have to > load the three books, you have to replicate t to the books, you have to > copy to the files and you have to check that nothing went wrong. > > Each book has several hundred files > > From: Robert Lauriston > Why would changing a variable take half an hour for only three books? ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ** This message originated from the Internet. Its originator may or may not be who they claim to be and the information contained in the message and any attachments may or may not be accurate. ** - ** This E-mail is confidential. It may also be legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you may not copy, forward, disclose or use any part of it. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and all copies from your system and notify the sender immediately by return E-mail. Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be timely, secure, error or virus-free. The sender does not accept liability for any errors or omissions. ** SAVE PAPER - THINK BEFORE YOU PRINT! ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] preventing 2-word product name from line breaks ?
I was thinking that perhaps it would be possible to create rules that define the variable suitably for each doctype, and in each specific context, within a document set, if one was using structured FM. However, in an enterprise that prohibits all user-installed add-ons, even if structured FM were in use, customizing the EDD might be prohibited. So, in the end, manual search/replace might be the only practical solution. > (But if you're at a company that won't allow you to install such > utilities, as is the case with John I believe, you just have to do things > the manual way. I've been at places like that, and it's always a drag on my > productivity. I'm happy to be working on my own system now where I can use > any utility that I want :-). > ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] preventing 2-word product name from line breaks ?
If you don't want to update all the variables, create a file containing only the variable(s) you want to update and import that. On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 2:55 PM, Monique Semp wrote: >> You can update a variable in all .fm files in a .book with a single >> import. > > > Yes, but that presupposes that you want *all* the variables from the source > file. But in my case, I have different variables in different FrameMaker > templates (for frontmatter, ToC, chapters), with only some variables, such > as the doc's part number, in all the templates. So by using BookVars, I can > easily change/add only the desired variable, to all files in the book, > without affecting any other variables. > > So it depends on your setup which method is easier/quicker/applicable. > > (But if you're at a company that won't allow you to install such utilities, > as is the case with John I believe, you just have to do things the manual > way. I've been at places like that, and it's always a drag on my > productivity. I'm happy to be working on my own system now where I can use > any utility that I want :-). ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] preventing 2-word product name from line breaks ?
That is why BooKVars is essential ... my most used tool in FrameMaker! Z > > You can update a variable in all .fm files in a .book with a single import. > > Yes, but that presupposes that you want *all* the variables from the source > file. But in my case, I have different variables in different FrameMaker > templates (for frontmatter, ToC, chapters), with only some variables, such as > the doc's part number, in all the templates. So by using BookVars, I can > easily > change/add only the desired variable, to all files in the book, without > affecting any other variables. > > So it depends on your setup which method is easier/quicker/applicable. > > (But if you're at a company that won't allow you to install such utilities, > as is > the case with John I believe, you just have to do things the manual way. I've > been at places like that, and it's always a drag on my productivity. I'm happy > to be working on my own system now where I can use any utility that I want > :-). ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] preventing 2-word product name from line breaks ?
You can update a variable in all .fm files in a .book with a single import. Yes, but that presupposes that you want *all* the variables from the source file. But in my case, I have different variables in different FrameMaker templates (for frontmatter, ToC, chapters), with only some variables, such as the doc's part number, in all the templates. So by using BookVars, I can easily change/add only the desired variable, to all files in the book, without affecting any other variables. So it depends on your setup which method is easier/quicker/applicable. (But if you're at a company that won't allow you to install such utilities, as is the case with John I believe, you just have to do things the manual way. I've been at places like that, and it's always a drag on my productivity. I'm happy to be working on my own system now where I can use any utility that I want :-). -Monique ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] preventing 2-word product name from line breaks ?
You can update a variable in all .fm files in a .book with a single import. On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 1:14 PM, wrote: > You have to define it, you have to check it on a few files, you have to > load the three books, you have to replicate t to the books, you have to > copy to the files and you have to check that nothing went wrong. > > Each book has several hundred files > > From: Robert Lauriston > Why would changing a variable take half an hour for only three books? ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] preventing 2-word product name from line breaks ?
I'm on a closed regulated system...Everything I use has to go through an extended review and UAT process. I cannot install anything on my own. John X Posada SR AML Syst & Ops Supt Data Analyst | Global Risk Analytics | HSBC North America Holdings Inc 330 Madison Ave., NY NY __ Phone Int: 212-525-5483 Ext: 646-735-1857 Fax Conference Bridge - 877-304-0052, Code 74809254 Email john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com __ Protect our environment - please only print this if you have to! From: "Monique Semp" To: "Robert Lauriston" , John X Posada/HBUS/HSBC@HSBC02 Cc: , "Framers" Date: 04/06/2016 04:53 PM Subject: Re: [Framers] preventing 2-word product name from line breaks ? >You have to define it, you have to check it on a few files, you have to load the three books, you have to replicate t to the books, you have to copy to the files and you have to check that nothing went wrong. I've been using Leximation's BookVars utility, http://leximation.com/tools/info/bookvars.php, to easily change vars in all a book's files at once. -Monique ** This message originated from the Internet. Its originator may or may not be who they claim to be and the information contained in the message and any attachments may or may not be accurate. ** - ** This E-mail is confidential. It may also be legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you may not copy, forward, disclose or use any part of it. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and all copies from your system and notify the sender immediately by return E-mail. Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be timely, secure, error or virus-free. The sender does not accept liability for any errors or omissions. ** SAVE PAPER - THINK BEFORE YOU PRINT! ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] preventing 2-word product name from line breaks ?
You have to define it, you have to check it on a few files, you have to load the three books, you have to replicate t to the books, you have to copy to the files and you have to check that nothing went wrong. I've been using Leximation's BookVars utility, http://leximation.com/tools/info/bookvars.php, to easily change vars in all a book's files at once. -Monique ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] preventing 2-word product name from line breaks ?
You also have to include the process for searching for the string and accepting the search and replace. John X Posada SR AML Syst & Ops Supt Data Analyst | Global Risk Analytics | HSBC North America Holdings Inc 330 Madison Ave., NY NY __ Phone Int: 212-525-5483 Ext: 646-735-1857 Fax Conference Bridge - 877-304-0052, Code 74809254 Email john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com __ Protect our environment - please only print this if you have to! From: Robert Lauriston To: "framers@lists.frameusers.com" Date: 04/06/2016 04:02 PM Subject: Re: [Framers] preventing 2-word product name from line breaks ? Sent by:"Framers" Why would changing a variable take half an hour for only three books? On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 12:49 PM, wrote: > Our department has changed names 3 times. The first time, it took me almost > all day to make the change. After I made it into a variable, the next time > it took me about 45 minutes. > > I have two versions; one that gives the whole name with the iniialism in > bracket for first time use. The other vesion is just the iniiialism. 45 > minutes change 3 books with 2,000+ pages per book. ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ** This message originated from the Internet. Its originator may or may not be who they claim to be and the information contained in the message and any attachments may or may not be accurate. ** - ** This E-mail is confidential. It may also be legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you may not copy, forward, disclose or use any part of it. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and all copies from your system and notify the sender immediately by return E-mail. Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be timely, secure, error or virus-free. The sender does not accept liability for any errors or omissions. ** SAVE PAPER - THINK BEFORE YOU PRINT! ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] preventing 2-word product name from line breaks ?
You have to define it, you have to check it on a few files, you have to load the three books, you have to replicate t to the books, you have to copy to the files and you have to check that nothing went wrong. Each book has several hundred files John X Posada SR AML Syst & Ops Supt Data Analyst | Global Risk Analytics | HSBC North America Holdings Inc 330 Madison Ave., NY NY __ Phone Int: 212-525-5483 Ext: 646-735-1857 Fax Conference Bridge - 877-304-0052, Code 74809254 Email john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com __ Protect our environment - please only print this if you have to! From: Robert Lauriston To: "framers@lists.frameusers.com" Date: 04/06/2016 04:02 PM Subject: Re: [Framers] preventing 2-word product name from line breaks ? Sent by:"Framers" Why would changing a variable take half an hour for only three books? On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 12:49 PM, wrote: > Our department has changed names 3 times. The first time, it took me almost > all day to make the change. After I made it into a variable, the next time > it took me about 45 minutes. > > I have two versions; one that gives the whole name with the iniialism in > bracket for first time use. The other vesion is just the iniiialism. 45 > minutes change 3 books with 2,000+ pages per book. ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ** This message originated from the Internet. Its originator may or may not be who they claim to be and the information contained in the message and any attachments may or may not be accurate. ** - ** This E-mail is confidential. It may also be legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you may not copy, forward, disclose or use any part of it. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and all copies from your system and notify the sender immediately by return E-mail. Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be timely, secure, error or virus-free. The sender does not accept liability for any errors or omissions. ** SAVE PAPER - THINK BEFORE YOU PRINT! ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] preventing 2-word product name from line breaks ?
Why would changing a variable take half an hour for only three books? On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 12:49 PM, wrote: > Our department has changed names 3 times. The first time, it took me almost > all day to make the change. After I made it into a variable, the next time > it took me about 45 minutes. > > I have two versions; one that gives the whole name with the iniialism in > bracket for first time use. The other vesion is just the iniiialism. 45 > minutes change 3 books with 2,000+ pages per book. ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] preventing 2-word product name from line breaks ?
Our department has changed names 3 times. The first time, it took me almost all day to make the change. After I made it into a variable, the next time it took me about 45 minutes. I have two versions; one that gives the whole name with the iniialism in bracket for first time use. The other vesion is just the iniiialism. 45 minutes change 3 books with 2,000+ pages per book. John X Posada SR AML Syst & Ops Supt Data Analyst | Global Risk Analytics | HSBC North America Holdings Inc 330 Madison Ave., NY NY __ Phone Int: 212-525-5483 Ext: 646-735-1857 Fax Conference Bridge - 877-304-0052, Code 74809254 Email john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com __ Protect our environment - please only print this if you have to! From: Syed Zaeem Hosain To: Monique Semp , Art Campbell , John X Posada/HBUS/HSBC@HSBC02 Cc: Framers List , Framers Date: 04/06/2016 03:42 PM Subject:RE: [Framers] preventing 2-word product name from line breaks ? FWIW, for me, variables work best for this purpose ... that way, an occasional search and replace (perhaps at the end) works wonders. This makes the "product name change" problem _far_ less of an issue in the long run! Z Syed Zaeem Hosain | Chief Technical Officer Aeris Communications, Inc. syed.hos...@aeris.net o: +1 408 557-1905 | f: +1 408 557-1925 | twitter: @AerisCTO | blog: http://www.aeris.com/blog The information in this message may be confidential and legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, please inform the sender of the error immediately. The review, use, distribution or copying of any message not intended for you is prohibited, and we ask that you permanently delete the message along with any copies and attachments. > -Original Message- > From: Framers [mailto:framers- > bounces+syed.hosain=aeris@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of > Monique Semp > Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 12:37 PM > To: Art Campbell ; john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com > Cc: Framers List ; Framers bounces+john.x.posada=us.hsbc@lists.frameusers.com> > Subject: Re: [Framers] preventing 2-word product name from line breaks ? > > > Second this. Use the non-breaking space in the variable and do a search- > and-replace at the end of production or when you're bored and staring at the > screen. > > Thanks, everyone. That’s what I’ll do. And I’ll add this to my production > checklist. > > -Monique > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at > http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail- > archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ** This message originated from the Internet. Its originator may or may not be who they claim to be and the information contained in the message and any attachments may or may not be accurate. ** - ** This E-mail is confidential. It may also be legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you may not copy, forward, disclose or use any part of it. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and all copies from your system and notify the sender immediately by return E-mail. Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be timely, secure, error or virus-free. The sender does not accept liability for any errors or omissions. ** SAVE PAPER - THINK BEFORE YOU PRINT! ___
Re: [Framers] preventing 2-word product name from line breaks ?
FWIW, for me, variables work best for this purpose ... that way, an occasional search and replace (perhaps at the end) works wonders. This makes the "product name change" problem _far_ less of an issue in the long run! Z Syed Zaeem Hosain | Chief Technical Officer Aeris Communications, Inc. syed.hos...@aeris.net o: +1 408 557-1905 | f: +1 408 557-1925 | twitter: @AerisCTO | blog: http://www.aeris.com/blog The information in this message may be confidential and legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, please inform the sender of the error immediately. The review, use, distribution or copying of any message not intended for you is prohibited, and we ask that you permanently delete the message along with any copies and attachments. > -Original Message- > From: Framers [mailto:framers- > bounces+syed.hosain=aeris@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of > Monique Semp > Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 12:37 PM > To: Art Campbell ; john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com > Cc: Framers List ; Framers bounces+john.x.posada=us.hsbc@lists.frameusers.com> > Subject: Re: [Framers] preventing 2-word product name from line breaks ? > > > Second this. Use the non-breaking space in the variable and do a search- > and-replace at the end of production or when you're bored and staring at the > screen. > > Thanks, everyone. That’s what I’ll do. And I’ll add this to my production > checklist. > > -Monique > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at > http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail- > archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] preventing 2-word product name from line breaks ?
> Second this. Use the non-breaking space in the variable and do a > search-and-replace at the end of production or when you're bored and staring > at the screen. Thanks, everyone. That’s what I’ll do. And I’ll add this to my production checklist. -Monique ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] preventing 2-word product name from line breaks ?
Second this. Use the non-breaking space in the variable and do a search-and-replace at the end of production or when you're bored and staring at the screen. Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 I support www.TheGrotonLine.com, hyperlocal news for Groton MA. On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 12:29 PM, wrote: > Don't worry about remembering...at some point, just do a search and replace > and change all occurrences to a variable. You want to use a variable for > product names...sure as hell, at some point, marketing is going to change > product names. > > John X Posada > SR AML Syst & Ops Supt Data Analyst | Global Risk Analytics | HSBC North > America Holdings Inc > 330 Madison Ave., NY NY > > __ > > > > > > Phone > Int: 212-525-5483 Ext: 646-735-1857 > Fax > Conference Bridge - 877-304-0052, Code 74809254 > Email > john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com > > __ > Protect our environment - please only print this if you have to! > > > > > > > From: "Monique Semp" > To: > Date: 04/06/2016 12:24 PM > Subject:[Framers] preventing 2-word product name from line breaks ? > Sent by:"Framers"+john.x.posada=us.hsbc@lists.frameusers.com> > > > > Hello, Framers, > > (Using FrameMaker 2015, but I don’t think that matters.) > > I have a 2-word product name that I don’t want to break across lines. I > know that I could always use a non-breaking space between the words to > prevent line breaks. But that’s hard to remember to do all the time. And > the search function treats the spaces as a diff, so if I’ve got > inconsistent usage (some regular spaces, some non-breaking spaces), a > single search won’t find everything. > > Another idea is to use a variable, with the space entered as a non-breaking > space. But sure as the sky is blue on this gorgeous day in San Francisco, > at some point I’ll forget and just directly type the product name without a > space, and later edits will push it to the end of the line into a line > break situation. > > The Format > Document > Text Options lets you specify “Allow Line Breaks > After” chars, but doesn’t have a “Don’t Allow Line Breaks” option, which is > what I really want here. > > Any suggestions for other approaches or utilities I can try? > > -Monique > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > > ** > This message originated from the Internet. Its originator may or may not be > who they claim to be and the information contained in the message and any > attachments may or may not be accurate. > ** > > > - > ** > This E-mail is confidential. It may also be legally privileged. If > you are not the addressee you may not copy, forward, disclose or > use any part of it. If you have received this message in error, > please delete it and all copies from your system and notify the > sender immediately by return E-mail. > > Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be timely, secure, > error or virus-free. The sender does not accept liability for any > errors or omissions. > ** > SAVE PAPER - THINK BEFORE YOU PRINT! > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com &g
Re: [Framers] preventing 2-word product name from line breaks ?
What if you find and replace foo\x20bar with foo\x11bar? or foo|bar with foo\x11bar? If you can't trust yourself to use it 100% consistently, a variable would just add complexity. On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 9:23 AM, Monique Semp wrote: > I have a 2-word product name that I don’t want to break across lines. I know > that I could always use a non-breaking space between the words to prevent > line breaks. But that’s hard to remember to do all the time. And the search > function treats the spaces as a diff, so if I’ve got inconsistent usage (some > regular spaces, some non-breaking spaces), a single search won’t find > everything. ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] preventing 2-word product name from line breaks ?
Don't worry about remembering...at some point, just do a search and replace and change all occurrences to a variable. You want to use a variable for product names...sure as hell, at some point, marketing is going to change product names. John X Posada SR AML Syst & Ops Supt Data Analyst | Global Risk Analytics | HSBC North America Holdings Inc 330 Madison Ave., NY NY __ Phone Int: 212-525-5483 Ext: 646-735-1857 Fax Conference Bridge - 877-304-0052, Code 74809254 Email john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com __ Protect our environment - please only print this if you have to! From: "Monique Semp" To: Date: 04/06/2016 12:24 PM Subject:[Framers] preventing 2-word product name from line breaks ? Sent by:"Framers" Hello, Framers, (Using FrameMaker 2015, but I don’t think that matters.) I have a 2-word product name that I don’t want to break across lines. I know that I could always use a non-breaking space between the words to prevent line breaks. But that’s hard to remember to do all the time. And the search function treats the spaces as a diff, so if I’ve got inconsistent usage (some regular spaces, some non-breaking spaces), a single search won’t find everything. Another idea is to use a variable, with the space entered as a non-breaking space. But sure as the sky is blue on this gorgeous day in San Francisco, at some point I’ll forget and just directly type the product name without a space, and later edits will push it to the end of the line into a line break situation. The Format > Document > Text Options lets you specify “Allow Line Breaks After” chars, but doesn’t have a “Don’t Allow Line Breaks” option, which is what I really want here. Any suggestions for other approaches or utilities I can try? -Monique ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ** This message originated from the Internet. Its originator may or may not be who they claim to be and the information contained in the message and any attachments may or may not be accurate. ** - ** This E-mail is confidential. It may also be legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you may not copy, forward, disclose or use any part of it. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and all copies from your system and notify the sender immediately by return E-mail. Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be timely, secure, error or virus-free. The sender does not accept liability for any errors or omissions. ** SAVE PAPER - THINK BEFORE YOU PRINT! ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
[Framers] preventing 2-word product name from line breaks ?
Hello, Framers, (Using FrameMaker 2015, but I don’t think that matters.) I have a 2-word product name that I don’t want to break across lines. I know that I could always use a non-breaking space between the words to prevent line breaks. But that’s hard to remember to do all the time. And the search function treats the spaces as a diff, so if I’ve got inconsistent usage (some regular spaces, some non-breaking spaces), a single search won’t find everything. Another idea is to use a variable, with the space entered as a non-breaking space. But sure as the sky is blue on this gorgeous day in San Francisco, at some point I’ll forget and just directly type the product name without a space, and later edits will push it to the end of the line into a line break situation. The Format > Document > Text Options lets you specify “Allow Line Breaks After” chars, but doesn’t have a “Don’t Allow Line Breaks” option, which is what I really want here. Any suggestions for other approaches or utilities I can try? -Monique ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
