Re: Is it possible to run i386 only, on a amd64 freebsd 7?

2008-08-19 Thread Oliver Fromme
Christopher Joyner wrote:
  Is there some way of doing that?  Running i386 software on amd64 machine?

Yes.  FreeBSD/amd64 contains a compatibility facility
for i386 binaries.  It should just work out of the box,
unless disabled explicitly.

Best regards
   Oliver

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RE: Is it possible to run i386 only, on a amd64 freebsd 7?

2008-08-19 Thread Sean Cavanaugh




 Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:05:06 +0200 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 
 freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC:  Subject: Re: Is it 
 possible to run i386 only, on a amd64 freebsd 7?  Christopher Joyner 
 wrote:  Is there some way of doing that? Running i386 software on amd64 
 machine?  Yes. FreeBSD/amd64 contains a compatibility facility for i386 
 binaries. It should just work out of the box, unless disabled explicitly.  
 Best regards Oliver
he was asking about ports that are labled as i386 
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Re: Is it possible to run i386 only, on a amd64 freebsd 7?

2008-08-19 Thread Oliver Fromme
Sean Cavanaugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  he was asking about ports that are labled as i386 only

Well, he didn't mention building ports.  He only said
*running* i386 software on amd64, which is certainly
possible.

Whether i386 only packages will run on amd64 depends
on the reason why they're marked as such.  If they
contain kernel code (such as the nvidia binary driver),
then it won't work.  Otherwise it should work.

However, it is important to know that i386 binaries can
only be linked with i386 libraries.  So if you need to
run an third-party i386 binary that requires a third-
party library, then that library must be i386, too.

Best regards
   Oliver

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Re: Is it possible to run i386 only, on a amd64 freebsd 7?

2008-08-19 Thread Christopher Joyner
Christopher Joyner wrote:
 Is there some way of doing that?  Running i386 software on amd64 machine?

Yes.  FreeBSD/amd64 contains a compatibility facility
for i386 binaries.  It should just work out of the box,
unless disabled explicitly.

Best regards
   Oliver



Ok I see, I understand that I am able to run i386 software on my amd64 (Pentium 
D).

Because of the error message i386 only, how do I make it install?
Do I use a force switch?  
I am going to try some things after posting this.


  
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Re: Is it possible to run i386 only, on a amd64 freebsd 7?

2008-08-19 Thread Oliver Fromme
Christopher Joyner wrote:
  Ok I see, I understand that I am able to run i386 software on my amd64 
  (Pentium D).
  
  Because of the error message i386 only, how do I make it install?
  Do I use a force switch?  
  I am going to try some things after posting this.

You didn't mention that you want to build a i386-only port.
The easiest way to circumvent that restriction is to down-
load the i386 package of that port and install it.

Whether you can make that work depends on what kind of port
it is.

If you tell us *what* software you're actualy trying to
install, we might be able to provide further assistance.

Best regards
   Oliver

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Re: Is it possible to run i386 only, on a amd64 freebsd 7?

2008-08-19 Thread Christopher Joyner
Christopher Joyner wrote:
 Ok I see, I understand that I am able to run i386 software on my amd64 
 (Pentium D).
 
 Because of the error message i386 only, how do I make it install?
 Do I use a force switch?  
 I am going to try some things after posting this.

You didn't mention that you want to build a i386-only port.
The easiest way to circumvent that restriction is to down-
load the i386 package of that port and install it.

Whether you can make that work depends on what kind of port
it is.

If you tell us *what* software you're actualy trying to
install, we might be able to provide further assistance.

Best regards
   Oliver


O.K. the software I want to install is wine.
Another one I want to install is zsnes or snes9x.
I have attempted to install it from source, and also the ports.

Sorry for the misunderstanding, I was wanting to install i386 only software on 
my amd64 FreeBSD build.
Not run i386 code on amd64.

Here is details about my system:
I am using a PentiumD 2.6 in dual core mode.
I have a old old pci vga display.  (might upgrade very soon, expecting some new 
hardware.)
A sblive sound card.

FreeBSD  7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #1: Mon Aug 18 20:50:41 EDT 
2008 :/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/amdcustom  amd64

the  is me marking out that information.


  
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Re: Is it possible to run i386 only, on a amd64 freebsd 7?

2008-08-19 Thread Christopher Joyner
Sean Cavanaugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 he was asking about ports that are labled as i386 only

Well, he didn't mention building ports.  He only said
*running* i386 software on amd64, which is certainly
possible.

Whether i386 only packages will run on amd64 depends
on the reason why they're marked as such.  If they
contain kernel code (such as the nvidia binary driver),
then it won't work.  Otherwise it should work.

However, it is important to know that i386 binaries can
only be linked with i386 libraries.  So if you need to
run an third-party i386 binary that requires a third-
party library, then that library must be i386, too.

Best regards
   Oliver


O.K I understand that.  So I can see that unless I have an i386 FreeBSD build, 
I really cannot
install those i386 only software titles.

In that situation I assume I can only use amd64 ports and software. 

I have an idea though, would it be possible to build a i386 FreeBSD on an 
another partition.  And use it to run i386 software while using the amd64 
FreeBSD?


Christopher Wesley,


  
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Re: Is it possible to run i386 only, on a amd64 freebsd 7?

2008-08-19 Thread Josh Carroll
 O.K I understand that.  So I can see that unless I have an i386 FreeBSD 
 build, I really cannot
 install those i386 only software titles.

 In that situation I assume I can only use amd64 ports and software.

 I have an idea though, would it be possible to build a i386 FreeBSD on an 
 another partition.  And use it to run i386 software while using the amd64 
 FreeBSD?

I tried something similar using an i386 chroot, but wine failed to run
(SIGABRT). If you need these i386-only ports/software, you should
probably just run the i386 version of FreeBSD. Do you have a
compelling reason for using the amd64 release (e.g.  4GB of RAM)?

Josh
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Is it possible to run i386 only, on a amd64 freebsd 7?

2008-08-18 Thread Christopher Joyner
Is there some way of doing that?  Running i386 software on amd64 machine?



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