Re: Upgrading to 64 bit from a 32 bit installation on FBSD 7

2008-09-18 Thread Kris Kennaway

Andrew Berry wrote:

On 18-Sep-08, at 2:37 AM, Kris Kennaway wrote:


Andrew Berry wrote:
Can I simply rebuild the world (or use freebsd-update), and 
portupgrade everything to rebuild for amd64? Or, will things break as 
libraries are upgraded which still have 32-bit dependancies on the 
system?


This is a pretty common question, did you try searching the archives 
or google for the answer?


Yes, I did, and was quite surprised when I didn't find a clear answer :)


Perhaps because it's not a simple operation ;)

Kris
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Re: Upgrading to 64 bit from a 32 bit installation on FBSD 7

2008-09-18 Thread Andrew Berry

On 18-Sep-08, at 2:37 AM, Kris Kennaway wrote:


Andrew Berry wrote:
Can I simply rebuild the world (or use freebsd-update), and  
portupgrade everything to rebuild for amd64? Or, will things break  
as libraries are upgraded which still have 32-bit dependancies on  
the system?


This is a pretty common question, did you try searching the archives  
or google for the answer?


Yes, I did, and was quite surprised when I didn't find a clear answer :)

Also, AFAIK upgrading to a 64 bit system allows access to  
additional registers on the CPU, leading to a performance increase.  
The system will only have 1.5 gigs of RAM, so that's not an issue,  
but are there any benchmarks out there comparing performance on <  
4GB hardware with 32 bit and 64 bit Freebsd?


Performance is not a single number.  Sometimes 64-bit systems can be  
slower, sometimes faster.  Run it on your own workload or look for a  
narrowly tailored benchmark and see what happens for you.


The main workload on this machine is SpamAssassin and gcc (for  
updating ports). So I guess I'll have to look into Perl specifically  
then.


Thanks,
--Andrew

Re: Upgrading to 64 bit from a 32 bit installation on FBSD 7

2008-09-17 Thread Kris Kennaway

Andrew Berry wrote:

Hi,

I've got a server which will be upgraded to my "castoff" parts which 
support amd64. This machine has been running Freebsd since the 5.0 RC's, 
starting on a P2 233Mhz, upgraded incrementally for a few years - a real 
testament to the stability of a FreeBSD install! What I've done in the 
past while upgrading is simply move the drive, and rebuild everything 
with an updated make.conf optimized for the new processor. Can I simply 
rebuild the world (or use freebsd-update), and portupgrade everything to 
rebuild for amd64? Or, will things break as libraries are upgraded which 
still have 32-bit dependancies on the system?


This is a pretty common question, did you try searching the archives or 
google for the answer?


Also, AFAIK upgrading to a 64 bit system allows access to additional 
registers on the CPU, leading to a performance increase. The system will 
only have 1.5 gigs of RAM, so that's not an issue, but are there any 
benchmarks out there comparing performance on < 4GB hardware with 32 bit 
and 64 bit Freebsd?


Performance is not a single number.  Sometimes 64-bit systems can be 
slower, sometimes faster.  Run it on your own workload or look for a 
narrowly tailored benchmark and see what happens for you.


Kris
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