Re: [Freesurfer] Problem with visualising hippocampal subfield segmentation

2012-04-04 Thread Ed Gronenschild
Hi Koen,

As already mentioned, I'm using v5.1.0, Mac Intel
Leopard version.
The voxel values of posterior_left_CA2-3.mgz and
posterior_right_CA2-3.mgz are between 0 and 255,
if that is what you mean by results.
By the way: I always get the 8 lines with invalid
drawable messages from freeview.

Ed

On 3 Apr 2012, at 21:29, Koen Van Leemput wrote:

 Hi Ed,

 What version of the FreeSurfer build are you using?

 Also, could you please let me know what the result is of ls
 posterior_left_CA2*?

 Thanks,

 Koen



 On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 8:29 AM, Ed Gronenschild
 ed.gronensch...@np.unimaas.nl wrote:
 Hi,

 I followed the instructions to visualize the hippocampal subfield  
 segmentation
 by entering the command (in the subject's mri directory)

 freeview nu.mgz \
   -p-labels posterior_left_* posterior_Left-Hippocampus.mgz \
   -p-labels posterior_right_* posterior_Right-Hippocampus.mgz \
   -p-prefix posterior_ -p-lut $FREESURFER_HOME/ 
 FreeSurferColorLUT.txt

 and got the following messages:

 2012-03-27 11:54:37.043 freeview.bin[34414:907] invalid drawable
 2012-03-27 11:54:37.083 freeview.bin[34414:907] invalid drawable
 2012-03-27 11:54:37.154 freeview.bin[34414:907] invalid drawable
 2012-03-27 11:54:37.156 freeview.bin[34414:907] invalid drawable
 2012-03-27 11:54:37.168 freeview.bin[34414:907] invalid drawable
 2012-03-27 11:54:37.170 freeview.bin[34414:907] invalid drawable
 2012-03-27 11:54:37.182 freeview.bin[34414:907] invalid drawable
 2012-03-27 11:54:37.184 freeview.bin[34414:907] invalid drawable
 QObject::connect: Connecting from QAbstractButton::toggled(bool)  
 to COMPAT slot (QGroupBox::setShown(bool))
 QObject::connect: Connecting from QAbstractButton::toggled(bool)  
 to COMPAT slot (QGroupBox::setShown(bool))
 CTABrgbAtIndexi: index -1 was OOB
 CTABrgbAtIndexi: index -1 was OOB
 Can not find index for color name left_CA2-3
 CTABrgbAtIndexi: index -1 was OOB
 CTABrgbAtIndexi: index -1 was OOB
 CTABrgbAtIndexi: index -1 was OOB
 Can not find index for color name right_CA2-3
 CTABrgbAtIndexi: index -1 was OOB

 Nothing was shown on top of nu.mgz. All the left and righ  
 posterior files
 are present.

 (Mac OS X 10.6.8, FreeSurfer version 5.1.0)

 Cheers,
 Ed
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Re: [Freesurfer] Problem with visualising hippocampal subfield segmentation

2012-04-04 Thread Koen Van Leemput
OK, I see why this is not working. We've been changing some name
conventions in our internal FreeSurfer repository after the public
release of version 5.1, and somehow you managed to get an incompletely
updated version.

It appears from
ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/pub/dist/freesurfer/5.1.0 that some
versions for the Mac were updated *after* the release date (24 May
2011), so I'll check with the engineers what exactly happened. Do you
remember which file you downloaded?

Thanks,

Koen



On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 6:59 AM, Ed Gronenschild
ed.gronensch...@np.unimaas.nl wrote:
 Hi Koen,

 No worries.
 The result of grep is:

 500 right_CA2_3                 17 85 136 0
 550 left_CA2_3                  17 85 137 0

 Ed


 On 4 Apr 2012, at 12:41, Koen Van Leemput wrote:

 Hi Ed,

 Can you please do

 grep _CA2 $FREESURFER_HOME/FreeSurferColorLUT.txt

 and let me know what the result is?

 Thanks, and sorry this seems so difficult to sort out.

 Koen


 On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 6:14 AM, Ed Gronenschild
 ed.gronensch...@np.unimaas.nl wrote:

 Hi Koen,

 As already mentioned, I'm using v5.1.0, Mac Intel
 Leopard version.
 The voxel values of posterior_left_CA2-3.mgz and
 posterior_right_CA2-3.mgz are between 0 and 255,
 if that is what you mean by results.
 By the way: I always get the 8 lines with invalid
 drawable messages from freeview.

 Ed


 On 3 Apr 2012, at 21:29, Koen Van Leemput wrote:

 Hi Ed,

 What version of the FreeSurfer build are you using?

 Also, could you please let me know what the result is of ls
 posterior_left_CA2*?

 Thanks,

 Koen



 On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 8:29 AM, Ed Gronenschild
 ed.gronensch...@np.unimaas.nl wrote:


 Hi,

 I followed the instructions to visualize the hippocampal subfield
 segmentation
 by entering the command (in the subject's mri directory)

 freeview nu.mgz \


  -p-labels posterior_left_* posterior_Left-Hippocampus.mgz \
  -p-labels posterior_right_* posterior_Right-Hippocampus.mgz \
  -p-prefix posterior_ -p-lut $FREESURFER_HOME/FreeSurferColorLUT.txt



 and got the following messages:

 2012-03-27 11:54:37.043 freeview.bin[34414:907] invalid drawable
 2012-03-27 11:54:37.083 freeview.bin[34414:907] invalid drawable
 2012-03-27 11:54:37.154 freeview.bin[34414:907] invalid drawable
 2012-03-27 11:54:37.156 freeview.bin[34414:907] invalid drawable
 2012-03-27 11:54:37.168 freeview.bin[34414:907] invalid drawable
 2012-03-27 11:54:37.170 freeview.bin[34414:907] invalid drawable
 2012-03-27 11:54:37.182 freeview.bin[34414:907] invalid drawable
 2012-03-27 11:54:37.184 freeview.bin[34414:907] invalid drawable
 QObject::connect: Connecting from QAbstractButton::toggled(bool) to
 COMPAT slot (QGroupBox::setShown(bool))
 QObject::connect: Connecting from QAbstractButton::toggled(bool) to
 COMPAT slot (QGroupBox::setShown(bool))
 CTABrgbAtIndexi: index -1 was OOB
 CTABrgbAtIndexi: index -1 was OOB
 Can not find index for color name left_CA2-3
 CTABrgbAtIndexi: index -1 was OOB
 CTABrgbAtIndexi: index -1 was OOB
 CTABrgbAtIndexi: index -1 was OOB
 Can not find index for color name right_CA2-3
 CTABrgbAtIndexi: index -1 was OOB

 Nothing was shown on top of nu.mgz. All the left and righ posterior
 files
 are present.

 (Mac OS X 10.6.8, FreeSurfer version 5.1.0)

 Cheers,
 Ed
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Re: [Freesurfer] Problem with visualising hippocampal subfield segmentation

2012-04-04 Thread Ed Gronenschild
I have downloaded the file
freesurfer-Darwin-leopard-i686-stable-pub-v51.0..dmg,
date 26/05/2011.

Ed

On 4 Apr 2012, at 13:09, Koen Van Leemput wrote:

 OK, I see why this is not working. We've been changing some name
 conventions in our internal FreeSurfer repository after the public
 release of version 5.1, and somehow you managed to get an incompletely
 updated version.

 It appears from
 ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/pub/dist/freesurfer/5.1.0 that some
 versions for the Mac were updated *after* the release date (24 May
 2011), so I'll check with the engineers what exactly happened. Do you
 remember which file you downloaded?

 Thanks,

 Koen



 On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 6:59 AM, Ed Gronenschild
 ed.gronensch...@np.unimaas.nl wrote:
 Hi Koen,

 No worries.
 The result of grep is:

 500 right_CA2_3 17 85 136 0
 550 left_CA2_3  17 85 137 0

 Ed


 On 4 Apr 2012, at 12:41, Koen Van Leemput wrote:

 Hi Ed,

 Can you please do

 grep _CA2 $FREESURFER_HOME/FreeSurferColorLUT.txt

 and let me know what the result is?

 Thanks, and sorry this seems so difficult to sort out.

 Koen


 On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 6:14 AM, Ed Gronenschild
 ed.gronensch...@np.unimaas.nl wrote:

 Hi Koen,

 As already mentioned, I'm using v5.1.0, Mac Intel
 Leopard version.
 The voxel values of posterior_left_CA2-3.mgz and
 posterior_right_CA2-3.mgz are between 0 and 255,
 if that is what you mean by results.
 By the way: I always get the 8 lines with invalid
 drawable messages from freeview.

 Ed


 On 3 Apr 2012, at 21:29, Koen Van Leemput wrote:

 Hi Ed,

 What version of the FreeSurfer build are you using?

 Also, could you please let me know what the result is of ls
 posterior_left_CA2*?

 Thanks,

 Koen



 On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 8:29 AM, Ed Gronenschild
 ed.gronensch...@np.unimaas.nl wrote:


 Hi,

 I followed the instructions to visualize the hippocampal subfield
 segmentation
 by entering the command (in the subject's mri directory)

 freeview nu.mgz \


  -p-labels posterior_left_* posterior_Left-Hippocampus.mgz \
  -p-labels posterior_right_* posterior_Right-Hippocampus.mgz \
  -p-prefix posterior_ -p-lut $FREESURFER_HOME/ 
 FreeSurferColorLUT.txt



 and got the following messages:

 2012-03-27 11:54:37.043 freeview.bin[34414:907] invalid drawable
 2012-03-27 11:54:37.083 freeview.bin[34414:907] invalid drawable
 2012-03-27 11:54:37.154 freeview.bin[34414:907] invalid drawable
 2012-03-27 11:54:37.156 freeview.bin[34414:907] invalid drawable
 2012-03-27 11:54:37.168 freeview.bin[34414:907] invalid drawable
 2012-03-27 11:54:37.170 freeview.bin[34414:907] invalid drawable
 2012-03-27 11:54:37.182 freeview.bin[34414:907] invalid drawable
 2012-03-27 11:54:37.184 freeview.bin[34414:907] invalid drawable
 QObject::connect: Connecting from QAbstractButton::toggled 
 (bool) to
 COMPAT slot (QGroupBox::setShown(bool))
 QObject::connect: Connecting from QAbstractButton::toggled 
 (bool) to
 COMPAT slot (QGroupBox::setShown(bool))
 CTABrgbAtIndexi: index -1 was OOB
 CTABrgbAtIndexi: index -1 was OOB
 Can not find index for color name left_CA2-3
 CTABrgbAtIndexi: index -1 was OOB
 CTABrgbAtIndexi: index -1 was OOB
 CTABrgbAtIndexi: index -1 was OOB
 Can not find index for color name right_CA2-3
 CTABrgbAtIndexi: index -1 was OOB

 Nothing was shown on top of nu.mgz. All the left and righ  
 posterior
 files
 are present.

 (Mac OS X 10.6.8, FreeSurfer version 5.1.0)

 Cheers,
 Ed
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[Freesurfer] Mapping pf fsaverage surface to native volume

2012-04-04 Thread René Besseling
Dear Freesurfer users,

I've been trying to map a Qdec contrast sig.mgh to the native volume of a
subject using mri_surf2surf (to get from Qdec fsaverage surface to native
surface) and mri_surf2vol (to map from native surface to native volume
cortical ribbon). However, the last step goes wrong: I get a nii with the
same range of values as were in the surface, but the nonzero voxels are
scattered all over, so I guess there is something wrong with the
surface-to-voxel coordinate mapping. Below is my code, any ideas on what
goes wrong?

Best regards,

Rene

mri_surf2surf --hemi rh --srcsubject fsaverage --noreshape --sval sig.mgh
--trgsubject subj01 --tval sig_2subj01.mgh

mri_surf2vol --surfval sig_2subj01.mgh --hemi rh --fillribbon --identity
sub01 --template subj01/mri/orig.mgz --o sig_2subj01_volumetric.nii
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Re: [Freesurfer] Freesurfer base file question

2012-04-04 Thread Tina Jeon
Doug or any freesurfer experts can you please answer this question it is quite 
urgent:

I have created some manual cortical labels in freesurfer using tksurfer. The 
.labels file containing the vertices of the cortical labels does not correspond 
to the labels of the pial surface even though they were drawn on the pial. I 
noticed however, that they do correspond to the lh.base.mgh and rh.base.mgh 
file that was created with an older version of freesurfer. These files contain 
coordinates and their corresponding label in the look up table. My guess is 
that the base file is an intermediate surface between the white and gray. The 
question is why do the vertices in the manual labels not correspond to the 
those in the pial surface? Alternatively, since the lh.base.mgh and rh.base.mgh 
are no longer apart of the recon-all process is there another name in to which 
it is called?

The command to make the cortical label is:
mri_label2vol--label labelname.label --temp brainmask.mgz --o labelname.nii.gz 
--identity --proj frac 0 1 .1 --subject subject_id --hemi lh

The command(s) to make the base file an ascii file is:
mri_annotation2label --subject # --hemi *h --seg #/surf/*h.base.mgh --outdir 
junk mris_convert -c *h.base.mgh #/surf/*h.white #/surf/*h.base.asc


Thank you,
Tina Jeon

-Original Message-
From: Douglas N Greve [mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] 
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:50 PM
To: Tina Jeon; Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Subject: Re: Freesurfer base file question

Hi Tina, sorry no one got to your first email. Sometimes emails do fall through 
the cracks, so always feel free to repost. It is not clear to me what command 
you are running or what you are trying to do. Can you supply more detail?
doug

On 04/02/2012 11:55 AM, Tina Jeon wrote:

 Hi Doug could you please answer these questions that I posted on the 
 listserv. Your help would be much appreciated to an upcoming project 
 on cortical development. Thank you.

 I noticed that the newest version of freesurfer does not output a

 ?h.base.mgh file, which contains vertices, but no triangular meshes 
 and corresponding gyral labels from the color look up table.

 Question:

 1). Why does my cortical labels created using tksurfer correspond to 
 the vertices in the base.mgh file and not the pial surface that I drew 
 the surface on?

 2). Is there a file in place of the ?h.base.mgh file in the newer 
 version of freesurfer? i.e. called a different name?

 My goal is to figure out which surface aligns with my manually created 
 cortical labels for visualization.

 I am running version  FSv5.0.0 on Centos4_x86_64 bit.

 Many thanks,

 Tina Jeon


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Re: [Freesurfer] mri_label2vol cannot allocate memory

2012-04-04 Thread Anthony Dick
Hello Bruce,

Sorry--just getting back to this project. The basic problem is that I am 
trying to align a cerebellar parcellation with the underlay in tkmedit. 
I was working on this with Doug, and his suggestion actually worked, and 
now I can't get it to work again (see thread: 
http://www.mail-archive.com/freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/msg21209.html). 
Here is the information you requested.

Anthony


[miles:[PATH]] adick% mri_info chuman_1.mgz
Volume information for chuman_1.mgz
   type: MGH
 dimensions: 141 x 103 x 87
voxel sizes: 0.8083, 0.9715, 0.8214
   type: FLOAT (3)
fov: 113.976
dof: 0
 xstart: -57.0, xend: 57.0
 ystart: -50.0, yend: 50.0
 zstart: -35.7, zend: 35.7
 TR: 0.00 msec, TE: 0.00 msec, TI: 0.00 msec, flip angle: 
0.00 degrees
nframes: 1
PhEncDir: UNKNOWN
ras xform present
 xform info: x_r =   0.9997, y_r =  -0.0228, z_r =   0.0103, c_r 
= 4.4598
   : x_a =   0.0237, y_a =   0.9951, z_a =  -0.0965, c_a 
=15.3835
   : x_s =  -0.0080, y_s =   0.0967, z_s =   0.9953, c_s 
=-6.8289

talairach xfm :
Orientation   : RAS
Primary Slice Direction: axial

voxel to ras transform:
 0.8081  -0.0222   0.0084   -51.7364
 0.0191   0.9666  -0.0793   -32.3006
-0.0065   0.0939   0.8175   -46.7739
 0.   0.   0. 1.

voxel-to-ras determinant 0.645035

ras to voxel transform:
 1.2367   0.0293  -0.009964.4661
-0.0235   1.0243   0.099536.5272
 0.0125  -0.1175   1.211753.5256
 0.   0.   0. 1.

[miles:[PATH]] adick% mri_info orig.mgz
Volume information for orig.mgz
   type: MGH
 dimensions: 256 x 256 x 256
voxel sizes: 1., 1., 1.
   type: UCHAR (0)
fov: 256.000
dof: 0
 xstart: -128.0, xend: 128.0
 ystart: -128.0, yend: 128.0
 zstart: -128.0, zend: 128.0
 TR: 0.00 msec, TE: 0.00 msec, TI: 0.00 msec, flip angle: 
0.00 degrees
nframes: 1
PhEncDir: UNKNOWN
ras xform present
 xform info: x_r =  -1., y_r =   0., z_r =   0., c_r 
= 6.0377
   : x_a =   0., y_a =   0., z_a =   1., c_a 
=60.9280
   : x_s =   0., y_s =  -1., z_s =   0., c_s 
=-1.

talairach xfm : /[PATH]/subjects/01/mri/transforms/talairach.xfm
Orientation   : LIA
Primary Slice Direction: coronal

voxel to ras transform:
-1.   0.   0.   134.0377
 0.   0.   1.   -67.0720
 0.  -1.   0.   127.
 0.   0.   0. 1.

voxel-to-ras determinant -1

ras to voxel transform:
-1.   0.   0.   134.0377
-0.  -0.  -1.   127.
-0.   1.  -0.67.0720
 0.   0.   0. 1.

[miles:[PATH]] adick% mri_label2vol --seg chuman_1.mgz --temp orig.mgz 
--regheader  chuman_1.mgz --o chuman_1.conf.mgz
MRIalloc: could not allocate 975187978 frame

Cannot allocate memory

On 3/7/12 9:17 AM, Bruce Fischl wrote:
 Hi Anthony

 sounds like there is something wrong with one of your volumes. Can you 
 ru mri_info on them?

 Bruce
 On Wed, 7 Mar 2012, Anthony Dick wrote:

 Hello--I am giving this message a bump. Please let me know if there are
 any suggestions. Thanks!

 Anthony

 On 2/15/12 1:43 PM, Anthony Dick wrote:
 Hello,

 I have run the following successfully, but when I have moved on to 
 other
 brains I get:

 mri_label2vol --seg chuman_1.mgz --temp orig.mgz --regheader
 chuman_1.mgz --o chuman_1.conf.mgz
 MRIalloc: could not allocate 975187978 frame

 Cannot allocate memory

 I am running a Mac Pro with 8GB RAM.

 Anthony






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Re: [Freesurfer] Problem with visualising hippocampal subfield segmentation

2012-04-04 Thread Koen Van Leemput
Hi Ed,

It seems that the 5.1.0 release for the Mac was composed two days
after the one for Linux, and during exactly those two days one of us
made a change to the file $FREESURFER_HOME/FreeSurferColorLUT.txt.

To correct this issue, please make a back-up copy of your
FreeSurferColorLUT.txt file, and execute the following commands:

cd $FREESURFER_HOME
sed -i s/CA2_3/CA2\/3/g FreeSurferColorLUT.txt
sed -i s/CA4_DG/CA4\/DG/g FreeSurferColorLUT.txt

Thanks,

Koen




On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Ed Gronenschild
ed.gronensch...@np.unimaas.nl wrote:
 I have downloaded the file
 freesurfer-Darwin-leopard-i686-stable-pub-v51.0..dmg,
 date 26/05/2011.

 Ed


 On 4 Apr 2012, at 13:09, Koen Van Leemput wrote:

 OK, I see why this is not working. We've been changing some name
 conventions in our internal FreeSurfer repository after the public
 release of version 5.1, and somehow you managed to get an incompletely
 updated version.

 It appears from
 ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/pub/dist/freesurfer/5.1.0 that some
 versions for the Mac were updated *after* the release date (24 May
 2011), so I'll check with the engineers what exactly happened. Do you
 remember which file you downloaded?

 Thanks,

 Koen



 On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 6:59 AM, Ed Gronenschild
 ed.gronensch...@np.unimaas.nl wrote:

 Hi Koen,

 No worries.
 The result of grep is:

 500 right_CA2_3                 17 85 136 0
 550 left_CA2_3                  17 85 137 0

 Ed


 On 4 Apr 2012, at 12:41, Koen Van Leemput wrote:

 Hi Ed,

 Can you please do

 grep _CA2 $FREESURFER_HOME/FreeSurferColorLUT.txt

 and let me know what the result is?

 Thanks, and sorry this seems so difficult to sort out.

 Koen


 On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 6:14 AM, Ed Gronenschild
 ed.gronensch...@np.unimaas.nl wrote:


 Hi Koen,

 As already mentioned, I'm using v5.1.0, Mac Intel
 Leopard version.
 The voxel values of posterior_left_CA2-3.mgz and
 posterior_right_CA2-3.mgz are between 0 and 255,
 if that is what you mean by results.
 By the way: I always get the 8 lines with invalid
 drawable messages from freeview.

 Ed


 On 3 Apr 2012, at 21:29, Koen Van Leemput wrote:

 Hi Ed,

 What version of the FreeSurfer build are you using?

 Also, could you please let me know what the result is of ls
 posterior_left_CA2*?

 Thanks,

 Koen



 On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 8:29 AM, Ed Gronenschild
 ed.gronensch...@np.unimaas.nl wrote:



 Hi,

 I followed the instructions to visualize the hippocampal subfield
 segmentation
 by entering the command (in the subject's mri directory)

 freeview nu.mgz \



  -p-labels posterior_left_* posterior_Left-Hippocampus.mgz \
  -p-labels posterior_right_* posterior_Right-Hippocampus.mgz \
  -p-prefix posterior_ -p-lut $FREESURFER_HOME/FreeSurferColorLUT.txt




 and got the following messages:

 2012-03-27 11:54:37.043 freeview.bin[34414:907] invalid drawable
 2012-03-27 11:54:37.083 freeview.bin[34414:907] invalid drawable
 2012-03-27 11:54:37.154 freeview.bin[34414:907] invalid drawable
 2012-03-27 11:54:37.156 freeview.bin[34414:907] invalid drawable
 2012-03-27 11:54:37.168 freeview.bin[34414:907] invalid drawable
 2012-03-27 11:54:37.170 freeview.bin[34414:907] invalid drawable
 2012-03-27 11:54:37.182 freeview.bin[34414:907] invalid drawable
 2012-03-27 11:54:37.184 freeview.bin[34414:907] invalid drawable
 QObject::connect: Connecting from QAbstractButton::toggled(bool) to
 COMPAT slot (QGroupBox::setShown(bool))
 QObject::connect: Connecting from QAbstractButton::toggled(bool) to
 COMPAT slot (QGroupBox::setShown(bool))
 CTABrgbAtIndexi: index -1 was OOB
 CTABrgbAtIndexi: index -1 was OOB
 Can not find index for color name left_CA2-3
 CTABrgbAtIndexi: index -1 was OOB
 CTABrgbAtIndexi: index -1 was OOB
 CTABrgbAtIndexi: index -1 was OOB
 Can not find index for color name right_CA2-3
 CTABrgbAtIndexi: index -1 was OOB

 Nothing was shown on top of nu.mgz. All the left and righ posterior
 files
 are present.

 (Mac OS X 10.6.8, FreeSurfer version 5.1.0)

 Cheers,
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[Freesurfer] mri_label2vol enquiry

2012-04-04 Thread Johnson
Hi
Can anyone tell me please how  mri_label2vol works, I know what it does, 
but I need to know how it works to take the FS space to the original 
anatomy space: does it do registration or does it use a transformation 
matrix. If the latest which one, where can I find it?
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Re: [Freesurfer] Qdec issue

2012-04-04 Thread sonya kaur
Hi Nick,
Here's the error that I'm getting:
asegstats2table --meas volume --tablefile
/mnt/haley/Sonya/qdec/stats_tables/aseg.volume.stats.dat --subjects 1001
1002 1003 1004 1005 1006 1009 1010 1012 1013 1014 1015 1016 1017 1018 1020
1022 1023 1024 1025 1028 1029 1030 1031 1033 1034 1036 1037 1038 1039 1042
1045 1048 1050 1052 1054 1055 1056 1057 1058 1059 1061 1063 1066 1067 1070
1071 1072 1073 1074 1076 1079 1080 1082 1089 1098 1099 1100 1102 1103 1104
1106 1107 1108 1113 1115 1120 1121 1123 1124 1125 1127 1128 1129 1132 1133
1135 1136 1137 1138 1140 1144 1146 1147 1148 1151
Building the table..
SUBJECTS_DIR : /mnt/haley/Sonya
ERROR: cannot find /mnt/haley/Sonya/1005/stats/aseg.stats
Use --skip flag if you want to continue in such cases

[nsilab-07:/mnt/haley/Sonya] sk27829% ERROR: In
/usr/pubsw/packages/KWWidgets/CVS/src/KWWidgets/vtkKWTkUtilities.cxx, line
230
vtkKWQdecApp (0x6918ef0):
Script:
vtkTemp3 GenerateStatsDataTables
Returned Error on line 1:
Uncaught exception: command failed: asegstats2table --meas volume
--tablefile /mnt/haley/Sonya/qdec/stats_tables/aseg.volume.stats.dat
--subjects 1001 1002 1003 1004 1005 1006 1009 1010 1012 1013 1014 1015 1016
1017 1018 1020 1022 1023 1024 1025 1028 1029 1030 1031 1033 1034 1036 1037
1038 1039 1042 1045 1048 1050 1052 1054 1055 1056 1057 1058 1059 1061 1063
1066 1067 1070 1071 1072 1073 1074 1076 1079 1080 1082 1089 1098 1099 1100
1102 1103 1104 1106 1107 1108 1113 1115 1120 1121 1123 1124 1125 1127 1128
1129 1132 1133 1135 1136 1137 1138 1140 1144 1146 1147 1148 1151

Sonya

On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 11:26 PM, sonya kaur sonya.kau...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi everyone,
 I realize I'm quickly becoming an annoyance, but I'm having trouble
 loading my data file into qdec. I keep getting the error:
 QdecDataTable::Load failed to tokenize string: on line 88 of HTN_FMRI_Qdec.
 HTN_FMRI_Qdec is the name of my data file. I do not even have a line 88 as
 I have only 86 subjects and 4 variables.

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[Freesurfer] hippocampal segmentation

2012-04-04 Thread Rashmi Singh
Hello,
 I converted the aseg. mgz files to nii format and created a hippcampal mask 
with 3dcalc.
Using AFNI I opened the hippocampal mask as overlay on the brainmask .nii image 
 as underlay.  For some subjects the hippocampus is not at the correct position.
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Re: [Freesurfer] hippocampal segmentation

2012-04-04 Thread Bruce Fischl

Hi Rashmi

does it look correct in our visualization tools? If so, you'll need to talk 
to the AFNI folks.


cheers
Bruce


On Wed, 4 Apr 2012, Rashmi Singh wrote:


Hello,
 I converted the aseg. mgz files to nii format and created a hippcampal mask
with 3dcalc.
Using AFNI I opened the hippocampal mask as overlay on the brainmask .nii
image  as underlay.  For some subjects the hippocampus is not at the correct
position.
Please advise.
Thanks,
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[Freesurfer] Questions about recon-all process flow in build 5.0.0

2012-04-04 Thread Winter, Warren
Hi,

I have a few questions about the process flow for the last stable build 
(5.0.0).  After looking over http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/recon-all 
,  https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/ReconAllDevTable , and  
http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/OtherUsefulFlags , it looks like 
there's some inconsistency in the info on these pages that's left me a bit 
confused about what processing steps are and aren't invoked by autorecon2-wm, 
and autorecon-pial.

On the 'Other Useful Flags' page, it looks as though autorecon2-wm doesn't 
invoke maskbfs / mri_mask, but on the recon-all page as well as in the mailing 
list archives it's said that autorecon2-wm runs processes both prior to 
autorecon2-pial and including the processes called on by autorecon2-pial.  (By 
the way, is autorecon-pial a separate command from autorecon2-pial?  Is the 
only difference that the former runs all the autorecon3 steps whereas the 
latter ends at the last step of autorecon2?)  If autorecon2-wm doesn't run 
maskbfs / mri_mask, then wouldn't a subject who has both had pial edits done to 
their brainmask.mgz and wm edits done to their wm.mgz end up generating 
parcellation stats that don't reflect the pial edits?  If that's the case, then 
would adding a -maskbfs flag before autorecon2-wm and -autorecon3 solve the 
problem?

And autorecon2-cp starts with -normalization2, right?  On the 
http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/RecommendedReconstruction page it says 
that it starts running at -normalization, which would be far earlier in the 
pipeline.

Finally, should one always wait to make pial edits or WM edits after adding 
control points and reprocessing from autorecon2-cp?  It looks to me as though 
throwing control points and WM edits and/or pial edits simultaneously at a 
reprocessing stream wouldn't pose any problems for the file dependencies, but 
that you might be able to do better pial and/or WM edits after seeing the newly 
generated surfaces and the newly segmented wm.mgz after recon-all has 
incorporated the control points.

Thanks so much for your help!

Warren

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Re: [Freesurfer] Freesurfer base file question

2012-04-04 Thread Douglas N Greve
Hi Tina, sorry for the delay. Most of us are involved in the FS 
finishing up today. We don't know anything about a base file created by 
recon-all. It looks like your created it with mri_annotation2label? If 
so, then it is not a surface, and I'm not sure what mris_convert would 
do with it. I'm confused as to what you are trying to do. Can you give 
more detail?
doug




On 04/04/2012 10:52 AM, Tina Jeon wrote:
 Doug or any freesurfer experts can you please answer this question it is 
 quite urgent:

 I have created some manual cortical labels in freesurfer using tksurfer. The 
 .labels file containing the vertices of the cortical labels does not 
 correspond to the labels of the pial surface even though they were drawn on 
 the pial. I noticed however, that they do correspond to the lh.base.mgh and 
 rh.base.mgh file that was created with an older version of freesurfer. These 
 files contain coordinates and their corresponding label in the look up table. 
 My guess is that the base file is an intermediate surface between the white 
 and gray. The question is why do the vertices in the manual labels not 
 correspond to the those in the pial surface? Alternatively, since the 
 lh.base.mgh and rh.base.mgh are no longer apart of the recon-all process is 
 there another name in to which it is called?

 The command to make the cortical label is:
 mri_label2vol--label labelname.label --temp brainmask.mgz --o 
 labelname.nii.gz --identity --proj frac 0 1 .1 --subject subject_id --hemi lh

 The command(s) to make the base file an ascii file is:
 mri_annotation2label --subject # --hemi *h --seg #/surf/*h.base.mgh --outdir 
 junk mris_convert -c *h.base.mgh #/surf/*h.white #/surf/*h.base.asc


 Thank you,
 Tina Jeon

 -Original Message-
 From: Douglas N Greve [mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu]
 Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:50 PM
 To: Tina Jeon; Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Subject: Re: Freesurfer base file question

 Hi Tina, sorry no one got to your first email. Sometimes emails do fall 
 through the cracks, so always feel free to repost. It is not clear to me what 
 command you are running or what you are trying to do. Can you supply more 
 detail?
 doug

 On 04/02/2012 11:55 AM, Tina Jeon wrote:
 Hi Doug could you please answer these questions that I posted on the
 listserv. Your help would be much appreciated to an upcoming project
 on cortical development. Thank you.

 I noticed that the newest version of freesurfer does not output a

 ?h.base.mgh file, which contains vertices, but no triangular meshes
 and corresponding gyral labels from the color look up table.

 Question:

 1). Why does my cortical labels created using tksurfer correspond to
 the vertices in the base.mgh file and not the pial surface that I drew
 the surface on?

 2). Is there a file in place of the ?h.base.mgh file in the newer
 version of freesurfer? i.e. called a different name?

 My goal is to figure out which surface aligns with my manually created
 cortical labels for visualization.

 I am running version  FSv5.0.0 on Centos4_x86_64 bit.

 Many thanks,

 Tina Jeon


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Re: [Freesurfer] mri_label2vol enquiry

2012-04-04 Thread Douglas N Greve
If you pass it a registration (--reg) then it uses that. It can also 
compute a registration from the information about the geometry in the 
header (--regheader) (assuming that the two volumes share a coordinate 
system).
doug

On 04/04/2012 01:48 PM, Johnson wrote:
 Hi
 Can anyone tell me please how  mri_label2vol works, I know what it does,
 but I need to know how it works to take the FS space to the original
 anatomy space: does it do registration or does it use a transformation
 matrix. If the latest which one, where can I find it?
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Re: [Freesurfer] Mapping pf fsaverage surface to native volume

2012-04-04 Thread Douglas N Greve
How are you visualizing the results? Can you send a pic? You should be 
using tkmedit.
doug

On 04/04/2012 09:59 AM, René Besseling wrote:
 Dear Freesurfer users,

 I've been trying to map a Qdec contrast sig.mgh to the native volume 
 of a subject using mri_surf2surf (to get from Qdec fsaverage surface 
 to native surface) and mri_surf2vol (to map from native surface to 
 native volume cortical ribbon). However, the last step goes wrong: I 
 get a nii with the same range of values as were in the surface, but 
 the nonzero voxels are scattered all over, so I guess there is 
 something wrong with the surface-to-voxel coordinate mapping. Below is 
 my code, any ideas on what goes wrong?

 Best regards,

 Rene

 mri_surf2surf --hemi rh --srcsubject fsaverage --noreshape --sval 
 sig.mgh --trgsubject subj01 --tval sig_2subj01.mgh

 mri_surf2vol --surfval sig_2subj01.mgh --hemi rh --fillribbon 
 --identity sub01 --template subj01/mri/orig.mgz --o 
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Re: [Freesurfer] mri_label2vol cannot allocate memory

2012-04-04 Thread Douglas N Greve
Can you successfully run mri_convert on chuman_1.mgz, eg
mri_convert chuman_1.mgz junk.mgh

doug



On 04/04/2012 12:29 PM, Anthony Dick wrote:
 Hello Bruce,

 Sorry--just getting back to this project. The basic problem is that I am
 trying to align a cerebellar parcellation with the underlay in tkmedit.
 I was working on this with Doug, and his suggestion actually worked, and
 now I can't get it to work again (see thread:
 http://www.mail-archive.com/freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/msg21209.html).
 Here is the information you requested.

 Anthony


 [miles:[PATH]] adick% mri_info chuman_1.mgz
 Volume information for chuman_1.mgz
 type: MGH
   dimensions: 141 x 103 x 87
  voxel sizes: 0.8083, 0.9715, 0.8214
 type: FLOAT (3)
  fov: 113.976
  dof: 0
   xstart: -57.0, xend: 57.0
   ystart: -50.0, yend: 50.0
   zstart: -35.7, zend: 35.7
   TR: 0.00 msec, TE: 0.00 msec, TI: 0.00 msec, flip angle:
 0.00 degrees
  nframes: 1
  PhEncDir: UNKNOWN
 ras xform present
   xform info: x_r =   0.9997, y_r =  -0.0228, z_r =   0.0103, c_r
 = 4.4598
 : x_a =   0.0237, y_a =   0.9951, z_a =  -0.0965, c_a
 =15.3835
 : x_s =  -0.0080, y_s =   0.0967, z_s =   0.9953, c_s
 =-6.8289

 talairach xfm :
 Orientation   : RAS
 Primary Slice Direction: axial

 voxel to ras transform:
   0.8081  -0.0222   0.0084   -51.7364
   0.0191   0.9666  -0.0793   -32.3006
  -0.0065   0.0939   0.8175   -46.7739
   0.   0.   0. 1.

 voxel-to-ras determinant 0.645035

 ras to voxel transform:
   1.2367   0.0293  -0.009964.4661
  -0.0235   1.0243   0.099536.5272
   0.0125  -0.1175   1.211753.5256
   0.   0.   0. 1.

 [miles:[PATH]] adick% mri_info orig.mgz
 Volume information for orig.mgz
 type: MGH
   dimensions: 256 x 256 x 256
  voxel sizes: 1., 1., 1.
 type: UCHAR (0)
  fov: 256.000
  dof: 0
   xstart: -128.0, xend: 128.0
   ystart: -128.0, yend: 128.0
   zstart: -128.0, zend: 128.0
   TR: 0.00 msec, TE: 0.00 msec, TI: 0.00 msec, flip angle:
 0.00 degrees
  nframes: 1
  PhEncDir: UNKNOWN
 ras xform present
   xform info: x_r =  -1., y_r =   0., z_r =   0., c_r
 = 6.0377
 : x_a =   0., y_a =   0., z_a =   1., c_a
 =60.9280
 : x_s =   0., y_s =  -1., z_s =   0., c_s
 =-1.

 talairach xfm : /[PATH]/subjects/01/mri/transforms/talairach.xfm
 Orientation   : LIA
 Primary Slice Direction: coronal

 voxel to ras transform:
  -1.   0.   0.   134.0377
   0.   0.   1.   -67.0720
   0.  -1.   0.   127.
   0.   0.   0. 1.

 voxel-to-ras determinant -1

 ras to voxel transform:
  -1.   0.   0.   134.0377
  -0.  -0.  -1.   127.
  -0.   1.  -0.67.0720
   0.   0.   0. 1.

 [miles:[PATH]] adick% mri_label2vol --seg chuman_1.mgz --temp orig.mgz
 --regheader  chuman_1.mgz --o chuman_1.conf.mgz
 MRIalloc: could not allocate 975187978 frame

 Cannot allocate memory

 On 3/7/12 9:17 AM, Bruce Fischl wrote:
 Hi Anthony

 sounds like there is something wrong with one of your volumes. Can you
 ru mri_info on them?

 Bruce
 On Wed, 7 Mar 2012, Anthony Dick wrote:

 Hello--I am giving this message a bump. Please let me know if there are
 any suggestions. Thanks!

 Anthony

 On 2/15/12 1:43 PM, Anthony Dick wrote:
 Hello,

 I have run the following successfully, but when I have moved on to
 other
 brains I get:

 mri_label2vol --seg chuman_1.mgz --temp orig.mgz --regheader
 chuman_1.mgz --o chuman_1.conf.mgz
 MRIalloc: could not allocate 975187978 frame

 Cannot allocate memory

 I am running a Mac Pro with 8GB RAM.

 Anthony




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Re: [Freesurfer] mri_label2vol enquiry

2012-04-04 Thread Johnson
so how it is used here?

mri_label2vol --seg aseg.mgz --temp rawavg.mgz --o aseg-in-rawavg.mgz 
--regheader aseg.mgz


On 04/04/2012 3:38 PM, Douglas N Greve wrote:
 If you pass it a registration (--reg) then it uses that. It can also
 compute a registration from the information about the geometry in the
 header (--regheader) (assuming that the two volumes share a coordinate
 system).
 doug

 On 04/04/2012 01:48 PM, Johnson wrote:
 Hi
 Can anyone tell me please how  mri_label2vol works, I know what it does,
 but I need to know how it works to take the FS space to the original
 anatomy space: does it do registration or does it use a transformation
 matrix. If the latest which one, where can I find it?
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Re: [Freesurfer] mri_label2vol cannot allocate memory

2012-04-04 Thread Anthony Dick
No, but the conversion from the original .nii works...

[miles:[PATH]] adick% mri_convert chuman_1.mgz junk.mgh
mri_convert chuman_1.mgz junk.mgh
$Id: mri_convert.c,v 1.179.2.2 2011/05/16 20:53:47 greve Exp $
reading from chuman_1.mgz...
MRIallocIndices: could not allocate 1701979223 elt index array
Cannot allocate memory

[miles:[PATH]] adick% mri_convert chuman_1.nii chuman_1_new.mgz
mri_convert chuman_1.nii chuman_1_new.mgz
$Id: mri_convert.c,v 1.179.2.2 2011/05/16 20:53:47 greve Exp $
reading from chuman_1.nii...
TR=0.00, TE=0.00, TI=0.00, flip angle=0.00
i_ras = (0.999687, 0.0236858, -0.00800704)
j_ras = (-0.0228015, 0.995052, 0.0967044)
k_ras = (0.0102579, -0.0964916, 0.995281)
writing to chuman_1_new.mgz...


On 4/4/12 4:47 PM, Douglas N Greve wrote:
 Can you successfully run mri_convert on chuman_1.mgz, eg
 mri_convert chuman_1.mgz junk.mgh

 doug



 On 04/04/2012 12:29 PM, Anthony Dick wrote:
 Hello Bruce,

 Sorry--just getting back to this project. The basic problem is that I am
 trying to align a cerebellar parcellation with the underlay in tkmedit.
 I was working on this with Doug, and his suggestion actually worked, and
 now I can't get it to work again (see thread:
 http://www.mail-archive.com/freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/msg21209.html).
 Here is the information you requested.

 Anthony


 [miles:[PATH]] adick% mri_info chuman_1.mgz
 Volume information for chuman_1.mgz
  type: MGH
dimensions: 141 x 103 x 87
   voxel sizes: 0.8083, 0.9715, 0.8214
  type: FLOAT (3)
   fov: 113.976
   dof: 0
xstart: -57.0, xend: 57.0
ystart: -50.0, yend: 50.0
zstart: -35.7, zend: 35.7
TR: 0.00 msec, TE: 0.00 msec, TI: 0.00 msec, flip angle:
 0.00 degrees
   nframes: 1
   PhEncDir: UNKNOWN
 ras xform present
xform info: x_r =   0.9997, y_r =  -0.0228, z_r =   0.0103, c_r
 = 4.4598
  : x_a =   0.0237, y_a =   0.9951, z_a =  -0.0965, c_a
 =15.3835
  : x_s =  -0.0080, y_s =   0.0967, z_s =   0.9953, c_s
 =-6.8289

 talairach xfm :
 Orientation   : RAS
 Primary Slice Direction: axial

 voxel to ras transform:
0.8081  -0.0222   0.0084   -51.7364
0.0191   0.9666  -0.0793   -32.3006
   -0.0065   0.0939   0.8175   -46.7739
0.   0.   0. 1.

 voxel-to-ras determinant 0.645035

 ras to voxel transform:
1.2367   0.0293  -0.009964.4661
   -0.0235   1.0243   0.099536.5272
0.0125  -0.1175   1.211753.5256
0.   0.   0. 1.

 [miles:[PATH]] adick% mri_info orig.mgz
 Volume information for orig.mgz
  type: MGH
dimensions: 256 x 256 x 256
   voxel sizes: 1., 1., 1.
  type: UCHAR (0)
   fov: 256.000
   dof: 0
xstart: -128.0, xend: 128.0
ystart: -128.0, yend: 128.0
zstart: -128.0, zend: 128.0
TR: 0.00 msec, TE: 0.00 msec, TI: 0.00 msec, flip angle:
 0.00 degrees
   nframes: 1
   PhEncDir: UNKNOWN
 ras xform present
xform info: x_r =  -1., y_r =   0., z_r =   0., c_r
 = 6.0377
  : x_a =   0., y_a =   0., z_a =   1., c_a
 =60.9280
  : x_s =   0., y_s =  -1., z_s =   0., c_s
 =-1.

 talairach xfm : /[PATH]/subjects/01/mri/transforms/talairach.xfm
 Orientation   : LIA
 Primary Slice Direction: coronal

 voxel to ras transform:
   -1.   0.   0.   134.0377
0.   0.   1.   -67.0720
0.  -1.   0.   127.
0.   0.   0. 1.

 voxel-to-ras determinant -1

 ras to voxel transform:
   -1.   0.   0.   134.0377
   -0.  -0.  -1.   127.
   -0.   1.  -0.67.0720
0.   0.   0. 1.

 [miles:[PATH]] adick% mri_label2vol --seg chuman_1.mgz --temp orig.mgz
 --regheader   chuman_1.mgz --o chuman_1.conf.mgz
 MRIalloc: could not allocate 975187978 frame

 Cannot allocate memory

 On 3/7/12 9:17 AM, Bruce Fischl wrote:
 Hi Anthony

 sounds like there is something wrong with one of your volumes. Can you
 ru mri_info on them?

 Bruce
 On Wed, 7 Mar 2012, Anthony Dick wrote:

 Hello--I am giving this message a bump. Please let me know if there are
 any suggestions. Thanks!

 Anthony

 On 2/15/12 1:43 PM, Anthony Dick wrote:
 Hello,

 I have run the following successfully, but when I have moved on to
 other
 brains I get:

 mri_label2vol --seg chuman_1.mgz --temp orig.mgz --regheader
 chuman_1.mgz --o chuman_1.conf.mgz
 MRIalloc: could not allocate 975187978 frame

 Cannot allocate memory

 I am running 

Re: [Freesurfer] mri_label2vol cannot allocate memory

2012-04-04 Thread Douglas N Greve
What version are you using? One of our versions had a problem with 
creating bad mgzs. You probably don't need to convert it to mgz. Can you 
run mri_label2vol with the original nii and see if it works?
doug

On 04/04/2012 04:50 PM, Anthony Dick wrote:
 No, but the conversion from the original .nii works...

 [miles:[PATH]] adick% mri_convert chuman_1.mgz junk.mgh
 mri_convert chuman_1.mgz junk.mgh
 $Id: mri_convert.c,v 1.179.2.2 2011/05/16 20:53:47 greve Exp $
 reading from chuman_1.mgz...
 MRIallocIndices: could not allocate 1701979223 elt index array
 Cannot allocate memory

 [miles:[PATH]] adick% mri_convert chuman_1.nii chuman_1_new.mgz
 mri_convert chuman_1.nii chuman_1_new.mgz
 $Id: mri_convert.c,v 1.179.2.2 2011/05/16 20:53:47 greve Exp $
 reading from chuman_1.nii...
 TR=0.00, TE=0.00, TI=0.00, flip angle=0.00
 i_ras = (0.999687, 0.0236858, -0.00800704)
 j_ras = (-0.0228015, 0.995052, 0.0967044)
 k_ras = (0.0102579, -0.0964916, 0.995281)
 writing to chuman_1_new.mgz...


 On 4/4/12 4:47 PM, Douglas N Greve wrote:
 Can you successfully run mri_convert on chuman_1.mgz, eg
 mri_convert chuman_1.mgz junk.mgh

 doug



 On 04/04/2012 12:29 PM, Anthony Dick wrote:
 Hello Bruce,

 Sorry--just getting back to this project. The basic problem is that I am
 trying to align a cerebellar parcellation with the underlay in tkmedit.
 I was working on this with Doug, and his suggestion actually worked, and
 now I can't get it to work again (see thread:
 http://www.mail-archive.com/freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/msg21209.html).
 Here is the information you requested.

 Anthony


 [miles:[PATH]] adick% mri_info chuman_1.mgz
 Volume information for chuman_1.mgz
   type: MGH
 dimensions: 141 x 103 x 87
voxel sizes: 0.8083, 0.9715, 0.8214
   type: FLOAT (3)
fov: 113.976
dof: 0
 xstart: -57.0, xend: 57.0
 ystart: -50.0, yend: 50.0
 zstart: -35.7, zend: 35.7
 TR: 0.00 msec, TE: 0.00 msec, TI: 0.00 msec, flip angle:
 0.00 degrees
nframes: 1
PhEncDir: UNKNOWN
 ras xform present
 xform info: x_r =   0.9997, y_r =  -0.0228, z_r =   0.0103, c_r
 = 4.4598
   : x_a =   0.0237, y_a =   0.9951, z_a =  -0.0965, c_a
 =15.3835
   : x_s =  -0.0080, y_s =   0.0967, z_s =   0.9953, c_s
 =-6.8289

 talairach xfm :
 Orientation   : RAS
 Primary Slice Direction: axial

 voxel to ras transform:
 0.8081  -0.0222   0.0084   -51.7364
 0.0191   0.9666  -0.0793   -32.3006
-0.0065   0.0939   0.8175   -46.7739
 0.   0.   0. 1.

 voxel-to-ras determinant 0.645035

 ras to voxel transform:
 1.2367   0.0293  -0.009964.4661
-0.0235   1.0243   0.099536.5272
 0.0125  -0.1175   1.211753.5256
 0.   0.   0. 1.

 [miles:[PATH]] adick% mri_info orig.mgz
 Volume information for orig.mgz
   type: MGH
 dimensions: 256 x 256 x 256
voxel sizes: 1., 1., 1.
   type: UCHAR (0)
fov: 256.000
dof: 0
 xstart: -128.0, xend: 128.0
 ystart: -128.0, yend: 128.0
 zstart: -128.0, zend: 128.0
 TR: 0.00 msec, TE: 0.00 msec, TI: 0.00 msec, flip angle:
 0.00 degrees
nframes: 1
PhEncDir: UNKNOWN
 ras xform present
 xform info: x_r =  -1., y_r =   0., z_r =   0., c_r
 = 6.0377
   : x_a =   0., y_a =   0., z_a =   1., c_a
 =60.9280
   : x_s =   0., y_s =  -1., z_s =   0., c_s
 =-1.

 talairach xfm : /[PATH]/subjects/01/mri/transforms/talairach.xfm
 Orientation   : LIA
 Primary Slice Direction: coronal

 voxel to ras transform:
-1.   0.   0.   134.0377
 0.   0.   1.   -67.0720
 0.  -1.   0.   127.
 0.   0.   0. 1.

 voxel-to-ras determinant -1

 ras to voxel transform:
-1.   0.   0.   134.0377
-0.  -0.  -1.   127.
-0.   1.  -0.67.0720
 0.   0.   0. 1.

 [miles:[PATH]] adick% mri_label2vol --seg chuman_1.mgz --temp orig.mgz
 --regheaderchuman_1.mgz --o chuman_1.conf.mgz
 MRIalloc: could not allocate 975187978 frame

 Cannot allocate memory

 On 3/7/12 9:17 AM, Bruce Fischl wrote:
 Hi Anthony

 sounds like there is something wrong with one of your volumes. Can you
 ru mri_info on them?

 Bruce
 On Wed, 7 Mar 2012, Anthony Dick wrote:

 Hello--I am giving this message a bump. Please let me know if there are
 any suggestions. Thanks!

 Anthony

 On 

[Freesurfer] Stylus Input for Cortical Edits

2012-04-04 Thread Jeff Stout
Hi All,
We have a large number of subjects that need minor edits (orbital frontal 
cortex/eye issues subcortical parcellation etc.).  To speed up the process I 
was wondering if a stylus input would help with the editing.
Do the graphics tablets (stylus input) work with freesurfer editing?  Do they 
end up being useful or is it not worth investing in?  And if so, could someone 
recommend a brand (wacom?) that would work with Ubuntu 10.04 (or just linux in 
general).

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Re: [Freesurfer] Stylus Input for Cortical Edits

2012-04-04 Thread Emily Rogalski
We have found Wacom tablets are excellent for editing.
On Apr 4, 2012 4:40 PM, Jeff Stout jstout...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hi All,

 We have a large number of subjects that need minor edits (orbital frontal
 cortex/eye issues subcortical parcellation etc.).  To speed up the process
 I was wondering if a stylus input would help with the editing.

 Do the graphics tablets (stylus input) work with freesurfer editing?  Do
 they end up being useful or is it not worth investing in?  And if so, could
 someone recommend a brand (wacom?) that would work with Ubuntu 10.04 (or
 just linux in general).


 Thank you,
 Jeff Stout

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Re: [Freesurfer] lobar WM volumes

2012-04-04 Thread Irwin, William
Hi Doug-

I wanted to follow up on this procedure and ask for a bit of clarification. As 
an extension from Ines' efforts, I believe one can produce a ' lobe+aseg.mgz' 
lobar volume with both WM and GM for both RH and LH.

1:
mri_annotation2label --s subject  --hemi rh --lobesStrict lobe
mri_annotation2label --s subject  --hemi lh --lobesStrict lobe

2(a):
mri_aparc2aseg --s subject  --labelwm --annot lobe

2(b)
mri_aparc2aseg --s subject  --rip-unknown --ctxseg aparc+aseg.mgz --annot lobe
I'm not sure if this the correct syntax to be analogous to that for WM in 2(a).

What would be the correct syntax to combine 2(a) and 2(b) into one command?

3:
Per your suggestion for syntax, this can be found in recon-all.log following 
that for wmparc (and I have identified that). There is similar syntax for 
GM/ctx. I'm not sure if the following would need to be slightly modified for my 
objective:

mri_segstats --seg mri/aseg.mgz --sum stats/aseg.stats --pv mri/norm.mgz 
--empty --excludeid 0 --excl-ctxgmwm --supratent --subcortgray --in 
mri/norm.mgz --in-intensity-name norm --in-intensity-units MR --etiv 
--surf-wm-vol --surf-ctx-vol --totalgray --ctab 
/usr/local/freesurfer/ASegStatsLUT.txt --subject subject

But, before proceeding with the step 3, how can one determine the lobar label 
numbers assigned such that a custom LUT can be created. The output of the 2(b)  
(if the syntax is correct) indicates that 8 entries are read (Frontal, 
Temporal, Parietal, Occipital for LH and RH?).

Thanks for your help.

-Wil

|-Original Message-
|From: Douglas N Greve [mailto:gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu]
|Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 10:39 AM
|To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
|Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] lobar WM volumes
|
|use mri_segstats. You can look in subjid/scripts/recon-all.log for example
|command lines (look for the one with wmparc). The command will require a
|color table. The ones in the log file will use the default table,  but this  
will not
|have the numbers/names of your lobar regions, so you'll need to create a
|new color table (or add to the one that is there).
|doug
|
|On 04/02/2012 12:58 PM, Inês Violante wrote:
| Dear all,
|
| I need to obtain the white matter volume per lobe for a given numer of
|subjects.
| I started by using the following:
|
| mri_annotation2label --subjectsubjid  --hemi rh --lobesStrict lobe
|
| mri_aparc2aseg --ssubjid  --labelwm --annot lobe
|
| and now I have a lobe+aseg.mgz file.  How can I create a stats file
| containing the wm volume for each lobe?
|
| Thank you,
|
| ines
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[Freesurfer] white matter hyper intensities

2012-04-04 Thread Gregory Kirk
a collaborator just got a grant review that claimed 
















There's a possibility that changes in cortical thickness in
the insula might be a consequence of lesions (MR-hyperintensities) in the white
matter.


i would think that white matter hyper intensities would tend to enhance 
freesurfers ability
to detect the white matter/grey matter boundary rather than cause an error.


any comments as to the correctness of my thinking would be appreciated.


thank you


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Re: [Freesurfer] white matter hyper intensities

2012-04-04 Thread Matt Glasser
Hi Greg,

I would say there are a variety of possible confounds for cortical thickness
(e.g. changes in cortical myelin content, changes in the closeness of
opposition between grey matter and the dura from brain atrophy), but that
wouldn't be one of the ones I would think of.  White matter hyperintensities
tend to be most visible in T2w images (especially FLAIR), and not so much in
T1w images (in fact, they might actually make T1w images darker).  They also
tend to be in deep white matter away from the cortex.  

The insula tends to be a hard place to reconstruct surfaces because the
white matter is thin and not very bright (and has the grey matter claustrum
interposed between the external and extreme capsules).  A difference in the
white matter or claustrum could well create a problem reconstructing the
surface there, but I wouldn't expect a white matter hyperintensity there.  

Peace,

Matt.

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[mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] On Behalf Of Gregory Kirk
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 11:47 PM
To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Subject: [Freesurfer] white matter hyper intensities

a collaborator just got a grant review that claimed 
















There's a possibility that changes in cortical thickness in
the insula might be a consequence of lesions (MR-hyperintensities) in the
white
matter.


i would think that white matter hyper intensities would tend to enhance
freesurfers ability
to detect the white matter/grey matter boundary rather than cause an error.


any comments as to the correctness of my thinking would be appreciated.


thank you


greg

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