Re: FVWM: New Fvwm-Nightshade release 0.6.5 is out!

2013-06-11 Thread Dominique Michel
Le Sun, 09 Jun 2013 17:38:02 +0200,
Thomas Funk t.f...@web.de a écrit :

 This minor release of Fvwm-Nightshade includes the following:
 
 - Localization support for German, French and Spanish
 - Tab cycling in both directions with Alt-Tab (forward) and
Alt-Shift-Tab (backwards)
 - Included Python scripts work now with Python 2 and 3
 - Many Bugfixes
 
 It's not a big release but it makes 0.6 more stable :-)
 
 It can be downloaded from our website
 http://fvwm-nightshade.github.io/Fvwm-Nightshade
 or from Box-look.org
 http://box-look.org/content/show.php?content=156697
 
 If anyone wants to contribute, we need translations for the following
 languages: Russian, Italian and Swedish.
 
 I want to thank all people who helped us. Especially Jesús J. Guerrero
 Botella for proofreading of the Spanish translation.
 
 Best,
 Thomas Funk
 - Fvwm-Nightshade -
 

Hi,

I try it with the code from the git. I hope it is in sync.

I get the same problem than before with the application menu: it
doesn't exist, all I can do is to launch its configuration script,
which remain desperately empty.

The only messages I get are:

[FvwmForm-Form][FlocaleGetFontSet]: (9x15bold) Missing font charsets:
ISO8859-2, ISO8859-3, ISO8859-4, ISO8859-5, KOI8-R, ISO8859-7,
ISO8859-9, ISO8859-13, ISO8859-14, ISO8859-15, JISX0208.1983-0,
KSC5601.1987-0, GB2312.1980-0, JISX0201.1976-0, ISO10646-1
[FNS-BaseSetup][FlocaleGetFontSet]: (9x15bold) Missing font charsets:
ISO8859-2, ISO8859-3, ISO8859-4, ISO8859-5, KOI8-R, ISO8859-7,
ISO8859-9, ISO8859-13, ISO8859-14, ISO8859-15, JISX0208.1983-0,
KSC5601.1987-0, GB2312.1980-0, JISX0201.1976-0, ISO10646-1 ls:
impossible d'accéder à /home/dom/.fvwm-nightshade/themes/: Aucun
fichier ou dossier de ce type ls: impossible d'accéder
à /home/dom/.fvwm-nightshade/layouts/: Aucun fichier ou dossier de ce
type

I think some additional steps are needed in order to make the
applications menu to work. On gentoo, fvwm-menu-desktop is just
installed at the same time than fvwm, but no configuration at all is
made.
I think it can be the same issue with most distributions at the
exception of Debian, which have always been talking care of the menu
integration in all wm/dekstops.

If I run 'fvwm-menu-desktop', it output nothing.
If I run the examples in the man page and try other options, fvwm
tell me they are obsolete.

$ fvwm-menu-desktop
$ fvwm-menu-desktop --desktop kde-user --enable-mini-icons WARNING:
Argument desktop obsolete.  Ignored. 
$ fvwm-menu-desktop --type gtk WARNING: Argument type obsolete.
Ignored.

Best,
Dominique

-- 
We have the heroes we deserve.



Re: FVWM: New Fvwm-Nightshade release 0.6.5 is out!

2013-06-11 Thread Thomas Funk

Hi Dominique,


I think some additional steps are needed in order to make the
applications menu to work.On gentoo, fvwm-menu-desktop is just



installed at the same time than fvwm, but no configuration at all is
made.

It works only with fvwm 2.6.6 and only from CVS. the latest snapshot

is buggy - fvwm-menu-desktop-config.fpl isnt available there. This file 

creates theconfig gui. You can test it within a Fvwm-Console:

Module FvwmPerl -l fvwm-menu-desktop-config.fpl


I think it can be the same issue with most distributions at the
exception of Debian, which have always been talking care of the menu
integration in all wm/dekstops.

I have tested it on several distributions -Fedora, Arch, OpenSuse,

Debian and Ubuntu and on all it works correctly.



If I run fvwm-menu-desktop, it output nothing.
If I run the examples in the man page and try other options, fvwm
tell me they are obsolete.

 fvwm-menu-desktop
 fvwm-menu-desktop --desktop kde-user --enable-mini-icons WARNING:
Argument desktop obsolete. Ignored.
 fvwm-menu-desktop --type gtk WARNING: Argument type obsolete.
Ignored.

Thats right. These are options from the old perl script. Which version is installed?

 fvwm-menu-desktop --version

If it is 2.0 or higher than one thing could be ...

Have a look in /etc/xdg/menus. Are there any .menu files especially applications.menu?

If not than it is clear that no menu appears. These files are mandatory. Without them

nothing happens. Iffvwm-menu-desktop-config.fpl is available and you see no menu

listed at the top of the gui ...



What output comes with this command:

 fvwm-menu-desktop --insert-in-menu menuRoot


Best,

Thomas



--
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and Im not sure about the the universe. -- Albert Einstein




Gesendet:Dienstag, 11. Juni 2013 um 14:18 Uhr
Von:Dominique Michel dominique.mic...@vtxnet.ch
An:Thomas Funk t.f...@web.de
Betreff:Re: FVWM: New Fvwm-Nightshade release 0.6.5 is out!

Le Sun, 09 Jun 2013 17:38:02 +0200,
Thomas Funk t.f...@web.de a crit :



Hi,

I try it with the code from the git. I hope it is in sync.

I get the same problem than before with the application menu: it
doesnt exist, all I can do is to launch its configuration script,
which remain desperately empty.

The only error or warning messages I get are:

[FvwmForm-Form][FlocaleGetFontSet]: (9x15bold) Missing font charsets:
ISO8859-2, ISO8859-3, ISO8859-4, ISO8859-5, KOI8-R, ISO8859-7,
ISO8859-9, ISO8859-13, ISO8859-14, ISO8859-15, JISX0208.1983-0,
KSC5601.1987-0, GB2312.1980-0, JISX0201.1976-0, ISO10646-1
[FNS-BaseSetup][FlocaleGetFontSet]: (9x15bold) Missing font charsets:
ISO8859-2, ISO8859-3, ISO8859-4, ISO8859-5, KOI8-R, ISO8859-7,
ISO8859-9, ISO8859-13, ISO8859-14, ISO8859-15, JISX0208.1983-0,
KSC5601.1987-0, GB2312.1980-0, JISX0201.1976-0, ISO10646-1 ls:
impossible daccder  /home/dom/.fvwm-nightshade/themes/: Aucun
fichier ou dossier de ce type ls: impossible daccder
 /home/dom/.fvwm-nightshade/layouts/: Aucun fichier ou dossier de ce
type

I think some additional steps are needed in order to make the
applications menu to work. On gentoo, fvwm-menu-desktop is just
installed at the same time than fvwm, but no configuration at all is
made.
I think it can be the same issue with most distributions at the
exception of Debian, which have always been talking care of the menu
integration in all wm/dekstops.

If I run fvwm-menu-desktop, it output nothing.
If I run the examples in the man page and try other options, fvwm
tell me they are obsolete.

 fvwm-menu-desktop
 fvwm-menu-desktop --desktop kde-user --enable-mini-icons WARNING:
Argument desktop obsolete. Ignored.
 fvwm-menu-desktop --type gtk WARNING: Argument type obsolete.
Ignored.

Best,
Dominique

--
We have the heroes we deserve.







Re: FVWM: New Fvwm-Nightshade release 0.6.5 is out!

2013-06-11 Thread Dan Espen
Dominique Michel dominique.mic...@vtxnet.ch writes:

 Le Sun, 09 Jun 2013 17:38:02 +0200,
 Thomas Funk t.f...@web.de a écrit :

 This minor release of Fvwm-Nightshade includes the following:
 
 - Localization support for German, French and Spanish
 - Tab cycling in both directions with Alt-Tab (forward) and
Alt-Shift-Tab (backwards)
 - Included Python scripts work now with Python 2 and 3
 - Many Bugfixes
 
 It's not a big release but it makes 0.6 more stable :-)
 
 It can be downloaded from our website
 http://fvwm-nightshade.github.io/Fvwm-Nightshade
 or from Box-look.org
 http://box-look.org/content/show.php?content=156697
 
 If anyone wants to contribute, we need translations for the following
 languages: Russian, Italian and Swedish.
 
 I want to thank all people who helped us. Especially Jesús J. Guerrero
 Botella for proofreading of the Spanish translation.
 
 Best,
 Thomas Funk
 - Fvwm-Nightshade -
 

 Hi,

 I try it with the code from the git. I hope it is in sync.

 I get the same problem than before with the application menu: it
 doesn't exist, all I can do is to launch its configuration script,
 which remain desperately empty.

 The only messages I get are:

 [FvwmForm-Form][FlocaleGetFontSet]: (9x15bold) Missing font charsets:
 ISO8859-2, ISO8859-3, ISO8859-4, ISO8859-5, KOI8-R, ISO8859-7,
 ISO8859-9, ISO8859-13, ISO8859-14, ISO8859-15, JISX0208.1983-0,
 KSC5601.1987-0, GB2312.1980-0, JISX0201.1976-0, ISO10646-1
 [FNS-BaseSetup][FlocaleGetFontSet]: (9x15bold) Missing font charsets:
 ISO8859-2, ISO8859-3, ISO8859-4, ISO8859-5, KOI8-R, ISO8859-7,
 ISO8859-9, ISO8859-13, ISO8859-14, ISO8859-15, JISX0208.1983-0,
 KSC5601.1987-0, GB2312.1980-0, JISX0201.1976-0, ISO10646-1 ls:
 impossible d'accéder à /home/dom/.fvwm-nightshade/themes/: Aucun
 fichier ou dossier de ce type ls: impossible d'accéder
 à /home/dom/.fvwm-nightshade/layouts/: Aucun fichier ou dossier de ce
 type

 I think some additional steps are needed in order to make the
 applications menu to work. On gentoo, fvwm-menu-desktop is just
 installed at the same time than fvwm, but no configuration at all is
 made.
 I think it can be the same issue with most distributions at the
 exception of Debian, which have always been talking care of the menu
 integration in all wm/dekstops.

 If I run 'fvwm-menu-desktop', it output nothing.
 If I run the examples in the man page and try other options, fvwm
 tell me they are obsolete.

 $ fvwm-menu-desktop
 $ fvwm-menu-desktop --desktop kde-user --enable-mini-icons WARNING:
 Argument desktop obsolete.  Ignored. 
 $ fvwm-menu-desktop --type gtk WARNING: Argument type obsolete.
 Ignored.

Start by trying:

fvwm-menu-desktop  -v
then
fvwm-menu-desktop  --version

post results.

-- 
Dan Espen



Re: FVWM: New Fvwm-Nightshade release 0.6.5 is out!

2013-06-11 Thread Dominique Michel
Le Tue, 11 Jun 2013 14:56:13 +0200 (CEST),
Thomas Funk t.f...@web.de a écrit :

 Hi Dominique,
 
 I think some additional steps are needed in order to make the
 applications menu to work. On gentoo, fvwm-menu-desktop is just
  
 installed at the same time than fvwm, but no configuration at all is
 made.
 It works only with fvwm 2.6.6 and only from CVS. the latest snapshot
 is buggy - fvwm-menu-desktop-config.fpl isn't available there. This
 file creates the config gui. You can test it within a Fvwm-Console:
 Module FvwmPerl -l fvwm-menu-desktop-config.fpl

I updated to fvwm-2.6.6(cvs), and the menu configurator is still empty
with Nkghshade, but this command work, even if I get no menu in
$FVWM_USERDIR/.menu

 
 I think it can be the same issue with most distributions at the
 exception of Debian, which have always been talking care of the menu
 integration in all wm/dekstops.
 I have tested it on several distributions - Fedora, Arch, OpenSuse, 
 Debian and Ubuntu and on all it works correctly.

 That's right. These are options from the old perl script. Which
 version is installed? #36; fvwm-menu-desktop --version
 If it is 2.0 or higher than one thing could be ...

It is 2.1 now.

 Have a look in /etc/xdg/menus. Are there any .menu files especially
 applications.menu? If not than it is clear that no menu appears.

$ ls -R /etc/xdg/menus
/etc/xdg/menus:
applications-merged  kde-information.menu
xfce-applications.menu gnome-applications.menu
lxde-applications.menuxfce-settings-manager.menu
kde-4-applications.menu  lxlauncher-applications.menu

/etc/xdg/menus/applications-merged:
electronics.menu  zeroinstall.menu

 These files are mandatory. Without them nothing happens. If
 fvwm-menu-desktop-config.fpl is available and you see no menu listed
 at the top of the gui ... 
 What output comes with this command:
 #36; fvwm-menu-desktop --insert-in-menu menuRoot

$ fvwm-menu-desktop --insert-in-menu menuRoot
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/bin/fvwm-menu-desktop, line 556, in module
main()
  File /usr/bin/fvwm-menu-desktop, line 203, in main
menulist, desktop_temp = getmenulist(desktop, menu_type)
  File /usr/bin/fvwm-menu-desktop, line 228, in getmenulist
config_dirs = xdg_config_dirs # xdg_config_dirs is a built-in list
from python-xdg NameError: global name 'xdg_config_dirs' is not defined


Cheers,
Dominique

 
 Best,
 Thomas  
 -- Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and
 I'm not sure about the the universe. -- Albert Einstein 
  
 Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. Juni 2013 um 14:18 Uhr Von: Dominique
 Michel dominique.mic...@vtxnet.ch An: Thomas Funk
 t.f...@web.de Betreff: Re: FVWM: New Fvwm-Nightshade release 0.6.5
 is out! Le Sun, 09 Jun 2013 17:38:02 +0200, Thomas Funk
 t.f...@web.de a écrit :  Hi, I try it with the code from the git.
 I hope it is in sync. I get the same problem than before with the
 application menu: it doesn't exist, all I can do is to launch its
 configuration script, which remain desperately empty. The only error
 or warning messages I get are: [FvwmForm-Form][FlocaleGetFontSet]:
 (9x15bold) Missing font charsets: ISO8859-2, ISO8859-3, ISO8859-4,
 ISO8859-5, KOI8-R, ISO8859-7, ISO8859-9, ISO8859-13, ISO8859-14,
 ISO8859-15, JISX0208.1983-0, KSC5601.1987-0, GB2312.1980-0,
 JISX0201.1976-0, ISO10646-1 [FNS-BaseSetup][FlocaleGetFontSet]:
 (9x15bold) Missing font charsets: ISO8859-2, ISO8859-3, ISO8859-4,
 ISO8859-5, KOI8-R, ISO8859-7, ISO8859-9, ISO8859-13, ISO8859-14,
 ISO8859-15, JISX0208.1983-0, KSC5601.1987-0, GB2312.1980-0,
 JISX0201.1976-0, ISO10646-1 ls: impossible d'accéder
 à /home/dom/.fvwm-nightshade/themes/: Aucun fichier ou dossier de ce
 type ls: impossible d'accéder à /home/dom/.fvwm-nightshade/layouts/:
 Aucun fichier ou dossier de ce type I think some additional steps are
 needed in order to make the applications menu to work. On gentoo,
 fvwm-menu-desktop is just installed at the same time than fvwm, but
 no configuration at all is made. I think it can be the same issue
 with most distributions at the exception of Debian, which have always
 been talking care of the menu integration in all wm/dekstops. If I
 run 'fvwm-menu-desktop', it output nothing. If I run the examples in
 the man page and try other options, fvwm tell me they are obsolete.
 #36; fvwm-menu-desktop #36; fvwm-menu-desktop --desktop kde-user
 --enable-mini-icons WARNING: Argument desktop obsolete. Ignored.
 #36; fvwm-menu-desktop --type gtk WARNING: Argument type obsolete.
 Ignored. Best, Dominique -- We have the heroes we deserve.


-- 
We have the heroes we deserve.



Re: FVWM: New Fvwm-Nightshade release 0.6.5 is out!

2013-06-11 Thread Dominique Michel
Le Tue, 11 Jun 2013 09:30:52 -0400,
Dan Espen des...@verizon.net a écrit :

 Dominique Michel dominique.mic...@vtxnet.ch writes:
 
  Le Sun, 09 Jun 2013 17:38:02 +0200,
  Thomas Funk t.f...@web.de a écrit :
 
  This minor release of Fvwm-Nightshade includes the following:
  
  - Localization support for German, French and Spanish
  - Tab cycling in both directions with Alt-Tab (forward) and
 Alt-Shift-Tab (backwards)
  - Included Python scripts work now with Python 2 and 3
  - Many Bugfixes
  
  It's not a big release but it makes 0.6 more stable :-)
  
  It can be downloaded from our website
  http://fvwm-nightshade.github.io/Fvwm-Nightshade
  or from Box-look.org
  http://box-look.org/content/show.php?content=156697
  
  If anyone wants to contribute, we need translations for the
  following languages: Russian, Italian and Swedish.
  
  I want to thank all people who helped us. Especially Jesús J.
  Guerrero Botella for proofreading of the Spanish translation.
  
  Best,
  Thomas Funk
  - Fvwm-Nightshade -
  
 
  Hi,
 
  I try it with the code from the git. I hope it is in sync.
 
  I get the same problem than before with the application menu: it
  doesn't exist, all I can do is to launch its configuration script,
  which remain desperately empty.
 
  The only messages I get are:
 
  [FvwmForm-Form][FlocaleGetFontSet]: (9x15bold) Missing font
  charsets: ISO8859-2, ISO8859-3, ISO8859-4, ISO8859-5, KOI8-R,
  ISO8859-7, ISO8859-9, ISO8859-13, ISO8859-14, ISO8859-15,
  JISX0208.1983-0, KSC5601.1987-0, GB2312.1980-0, JISX0201.1976-0,
  ISO10646-1 [FNS-BaseSetup][FlocaleGetFontSet]: (9x15bold) Missing
  font charsets: ISO8859-2, ISO8859-3, ISO8859-4, ISO8859-5, KOI8-R,
  ISO8859-7, ISO8859-9, ISO8859-13, ISO8859-14, ISO8859-15,
  JISX0208.1983-0, KSC5601.1987-0, GB2312.1980-0, JISX0201.1976-0,
  ISO10646-1 ls: impossible d'accéder
  à /home/dom/.fvwm-nightshade/themes/: Aucun fichier ou dossier de
  ce type ls: impossible d'accéder
  à /home/dom/.fvwm-nightshade/layouts/: Aucun fichier ou dossier de
  ce type
 
  I think some additional steps are needed in order to make the
  applications menu to work. On gentoo, fvwm-menu-desktop is just
  installed at the same time than fvwm, but no configuration at all is
  made.
  I think it can be the same issue with most distributions at the
  exception of Debian, which have always been talking care of the menu
  integration in all wm/dekstops.
 
  If I run 'fvwm-menu-desktop', it output nothing.
  If I run the examples in the man page and try other options, fvwm
  tell me they are obsolete.
 
  $ fvwm-menu-desktop
  $ fvwm-menu-desktop --desktop kde-user --enable-mini-icons WARNING:
  Argument desktop obsolete.  Ignored. 
  $ fvwm-menu-desktop --type gtk WARNING: Argument type obsolete.
  Ignored.
 
 Start by trying:
 
 fvwm-menu-desktop  -v

$ fvwm-menu-desktop  -v
Parameters for creating menu list:
 XDG_MENU_PREFIX:  ''
 --install-prefix: ''
 --desktop:''
 --menu-type:  ''

Start search ...
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/bin/fvwm-menu-desktop, line 556, in module
main()
  File /usr/bin/fvwm-menu-desktop, line 203, in main
menulist, desktop_temp = getmenulist(desktop, menu_type)
  File /usr/bin/fvwm-menu-desktop, line 228, in getmenulist
config_dirs = xdg_config_dirs # xdg_config_dirs is a built-in list
from python-xdg NameError: global name 'xdg_config_dirs' is not defined

 then
 fvwm-menu-desktop  --version

$ fvwm-menu-desktop  --version
fvwm-menu-desktop version 2.1

 
 post results.
 


-- 
We have the heroes we deserve.



Re: FVWM: New Fvwm-Nightshade release 0.6.5 is out!

2013-06-11 Thread Thomas Funk

Dominique Michel wrote:
 $ fvwm-menu-desktop --insert-in-menu menuRoot
 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File /usr/bin/fvwm-menu-desktop, line 556, in module
 main()
   File /usr/bin/fvwm-menu-desktop, line 203, in main
 menulist, desktop_temp = getmenulist(desktop, menu_type)
   File /usr/bin/fvwm-menu-desktop, line 228, in getmenulist
 config_dirs = xdg_config_dirs # xdg_config_dirs is a built-in list
 from python-xdg NameError: global name 'xdg_config_dirs' is not defined
I have guessed it ... you have python-xdg  0.19 installed, right?

I have had the same problem on an Arch test system. There was 0.25
installed. They have changed something but I haven't had the time to
analyze it. I will look over it at the weekend hopefully.

Thanks,
Thomas



Re: FVWM: New Fvwm-Nightshade release 0.6.5 is out!

2013-06-11 Thread Dominique Michel
Le Tue, 11 Jun 2013 23:29:48 +0200,
Thomas Funk t.f...@web.de a écrit :

 Dominique Michel wrote:
   $ fvwm-menu-desktop --insert-in-menu menuRoot
   Traceback (most recent call last):
 File /usr/bin/fvwm-menu-desktop, line 556, in module
   main()
 File /usr/bin/fvwm-menu-desktop, line 203, in main
   menulist, desktop_temp = getmenulist(desktop, menu_type)
 File /usr/bin/fvwm-menu-desktop, line 228, in getmenulist
   config_dirs = xdg_config_dirs # xdg_config_dirs is a built-in
   list from python-xdg NameError: global name 'xdg_config_dirs' is
   not defined
 I have guessed it ... you have python-xdg  0.19 installed, right?

Right, it is pyxdg-0.25

 
 I have had the same problem on an Arch test system. There was 0.25
 installed. They have changed something but I haven't had the time to
 analyze it. I will look over it at the weekend hopefully.
 
 Thanks,
 Thomas
 


-- 
We have the heroes we deserve.