Re: Beating a dead horse? - Flashing "PC" video cards for a Power Mac
On Dec 4, 2010, at 12:04 AM, Justin The Cynical wrote: It's been a while since I looked into this, and I'm not finding much now. . So, does anyone know of an active site, IRC channel, or even still have the info for doing this? I'd be interested in what folks have to offer, too. I'd like an AGP PC card to flash for my AGP Macs that would allow support for a 30" LCD monitor at 2560x1600. I have a Quicksilver 2002 Dual 1GHz and a Digital Audio Dual 533. I believe it would need to have a Dual Link DVI port. One site reference for flashing cards I have is: http://themacelite.wikidot.com/compatibility and its links within the site. Another refers to itself as the Golden Guide: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=877441 See here for DVI discussion: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Visual_Interface and http://www.pacificcable.com/DVI_Tutorial.htm Another, somewhat difficult to read: http://xenomorph.net/apple/flashpccards/ Yet another: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=398935 Graphicaccelerator is located here: http://thomas.perrier.name/graphiccelerator.html Hope this isn't too much at once ... I'm still trying to read through it once in awhile. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 933 quicksilver
OS is 10.4.11 User log in items shows HP scan jet manager, iTunes helper, palm desktop background, and iCalAlarmScheduler. I have not used palm desktop in a very long time I will try booting in safe mode tonight and let you know. Console log shows lots of stuff but Im not sure what to look for. Shows lots of "incompatible applications" System log shows lots of "local host kernel ..." On Dec 3, 2010, at 9:46 PM, Dan wrote: At 10:57 AM -0800 12/3/2010, Barney Guzzo wrote: G4 933 1 gig ram, 250 gb Seagate 7200 .8 hard drive (ata), WD 128 drive (ata), internal 500 Gb Seagate 7200.12 sata drive with pci sata card, Gigabit ethernet card, Sonnet 4 port pci usb 2.0 card. OS? hangs when I try to run any kind of maintenance program (TTP, Onyx, Disk utility, etc etc). It just goes blank when I try to switch a user or shut down and have to restart constantly. Does Disk Utility hang if you first boot into Safe Mode (shift key held down)? My question is when I open activity monitor I always see "notifier" highlighted, "not responding", and red. What is "Notifier" and could it be my problem or part of my problem? Could be. There is the system notification manager, notifyd. But you say "Notifier" - that name is not part of the OS... and Google shows me half a dozen products that use that name. Check your system and console logs for error messages. Check your user login items list to see if it's there. (System Preferences, Accounts) - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Beating a dead horse? - Flashing "PC" video cards for a Power Mac
It's been a while since I looked into this, and I'm not finding much now. I recently brought my old 733 Digital Audio back to life. Currently it's sporting a modified 5200 from a G5, but after digging in my parts pile, I've found a 9600XT from Sapphire. Looking around on google, I'm only finding old and apparently abandoned web sites, if they even exist any longer and not much in the way of archives on archive.org So, does anyone know of an active site, IRC channel, or even still have the info for doing this? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: pic
On Dec 3, 2010, at 8:05 PM, John Callahan wrote: That's great, wonder how it got there? When you install OS X on any Mac that has a built-in webcam it takes a photo of the person sitting at the computer and uses that photo as the ~user login icon, which is also copied into Address Book along with the name, address, phone, info that was provided during the setup process. It's strange that Apple places small arrows beside some of the setup/registration info fields and seems to indicate that these fields are "required", but in reality you can skip or leave everything blank except the "short name", which is the only requirement (yes, you can not have a password, i.e. password field, but it still requires you to hit a or rather than just skipping the password process). I think the installer actually asks about taking a picture, but the default state is to take the photo, and it happens when you press "Continue", so some people probably don't notice when it happens. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 933 quicksilver
At 10:57 AM -0800 12/3/2010, Barney Guzzo wrote: G4 933 1 gig ram, 250 gb Seagate 7200 .8 hard drive (ata), WD 128 drive (ata), internal 500 Gb Seagate 7200.12 sata drive with pci sata card, Gigabit ethernet card, Sonnet 4 port pci usb 2.0 card. OS? hangs when I try to run any kind of maintenance program (TTP, Onyx, Disk utility, etc etc). It just goes blank when I try to switch a user or shut down and have to restart constantly. Does Disk Utility hang if you first boot into Safe Mode (shift key held down)? My question is when I open activity monitor I always see "notifier" highlighted, "not responding", and red. What is "Notifier" and could it be my problem or part of my problem? Could be. There is the system notification manager, notifyd. But you say "Notifier" - that name is not part of the OS... and Google shows me half a dozen products that use that name. Check your system and console logs for error messages. Check your user login items list to see if it's there. (System Preferences, Accounts) - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: pic
On Dec 3, 2010, at 6:52 PM, Tina K. wrote: Thanks Tina, got it. I'm not as young as I used to be But I'm not as old as I'm going to be! SO WATCH IT!!! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: pic
On Dec 3, 2010, at 6:18 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: John, simply remove the picture from your address book. done. Jeff That's great, wonder how it got there? Thank you I'm not as young as I used to be But I'm not as old as I'm going to be! SO WATCH IT!!! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: pic
On 2010/12/03 16:11, John Callahan so eloquently wrote: I'm using Mail Version 2.1.3 The pictures appear on my copy of outbound , my Cc: The picture is of a very good friend of mine, myself. The picture is at the top right of the text portion of the message. Thanks for remarking on my eloquence, it pleases my Irish heritage. I suspect that is Mail showing your and your friends pictures from Address Book.app. If that is the case, they are not being sent, they just appear there on your Mac. Again if it is pics from Address Book and you really don't want to see them, delete the pics from Address Book. Let us know if that solves the mystery. :-) Tina -- iMac 20" USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB DDR Gnome/Ubuntu 10.10 Power Mac June 04 2GHz G5DP 8GB RAM GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256MB Leopard 10.5.8 PowerBook G4 15" HiRes DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB DDR Leopard 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: pic
John, simply remove the picture from your address book. done. Jeff -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: pic
On Dec 3, 2010, at 5:08 PM, Tina K. wrote: That's not really enough information to be of help. What application are you using? Is this picture on inbound or outbound messages? Is the picture of you or someone you know? Is it at the very top of the message with the headers, or is it in the body of the message? We need specific information to know what is going on. Tina Thank you Tina, I'll try to be more specific. I'm using Mail Version 2.1.3 The pictures appear on my copy of outbound , my Cc: The picture is of a very good friend of mine, myself. The picture is at the top right of the text portion of the message. Thanks for remarking on my eloquence, it pleases my Irish heritage. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list I'm not as young as I used to be But I'm not as old as I'm going to be! SO WATCH IT!!! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Help! External HD vanished from desktop
On Dec 3, 2010, at 3:57 PM, iJohn wrote: > I wonder, does the $2500 cover the cost of one of their techs > disassembling the drive in a clean room and trying to tease bits off > the bare platters? (Do they even still use that approach or has the > retrieval technology moved on to other approaches?) Yes, the $2500 end is doing things like disassembling drives, cleaning smoke or flood residue off the platters and reading them. Go to the Drive Saver's web site, they have a 'Hall of Fame' showing some of the extreme cases they've handled. Fires, floods, backing over the computer with a truck, tornadoes, etc. -- Bruce Johnson "Wherever you go, there you are" B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Help! External HD vanished from desktop
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 4:00 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: > What CAN be done is sending it off to a drive recovery place like DriveSavers. > It's quite pricey, though: last time I checked, Drive Savers starts at $750 > for > recovery, and goes on up to about $2500 for normal jobs. Hence that old quip, "Only YOU know how valuable your data is". I wonder, does the $2500 cover the cost of one of their techs disassembling the drive in a clean room and trying to tease bits off the bare platters? (Do they even still use that approach or has the retrieval technology moved on to other approaches?) -irrational john, whose data is mostly probably not even worth the cost of the drives I buy ;-) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Fwd: pic
On 2010/12/03 14:29, John Callahan so eloquently wrote: Somehow I have gotten a picture on my e-mails, I do not know how it got there and I do not know how to get it off. Can anyone help? That's not really enough information to be of help. What application are you using? Is this picture on inbound or outbound messages? Is the picture of you or someone you know? Is it at the very top of the message with the headers, or is it in the body of the message? We need specific information to know what is going on. Tina -- iMac 20" USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB DDR Gnome/Ubuntu 10.10 Power Mac June 04 2GHz G5DP 8GB RAM GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256MB Leopard 10.5.8 PowerBook G4 15" HiRes DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB DDR Leopard 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Help! External HD vanished from desktop
On Dec 3, 2010, at 9:42 AM, Tom wrote: > Thanks for the freezer suggestion, Al. I've heard of that treatment, > too. Freezing things shrinks them and frees up stuck parts > temporarily. It also causes broken electronics to not overheat as fast. > My drive isn't stuck, though; it spins up freely, but it > just can't read the data anymore. I was able to recover some data off of a crashed laptop drive in this fashion. I used a USB-ATA adapter cable, and put the drive in a ziplock baggie on top of a pile of ice. If you do this, put the electronics side down. However, if your drive is matching one of the 'Disk Drive Death rattles' like you said, this will likely not work. What CAN be done is sending it off to a drive recovery place like DriveSavers. It's quite pricey, though: last time I checked, Drive Savers starts at $750 for recovery, and goes on up to about $2500 for normal jobs. But if it's the only copy of the video and pictures of juniors first steps and first birthday party, or the business plan and accounting data for your business, or something equally valuable, it's cheap at the cost. This is one place where I would would not shop around, just go to DS. If the data is retrievable, they can retrieve it. (for the record, we do know that they cannot retrieve data off a disk that some idiot has thought he knew much more about Solaris than he did and done 'rm -rf /' on...) -- Bruce Johnson "Wherever you go, there you are" B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Fwd: pic
Somehow I have gotten a picture on my e-mails, I do not know how it got there and I do not know how to get it off. Can anyone help? Thanks -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Help! External HD vanished from desktop
On Dec 3, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Tom wrote: > Yes, John, the drive was a fairly new one and OWC may well replace it > if I can find the receipt and warranty among my mounds of paperwork. > But replacing the drive is a minor issue to me compared to retrieving > the data on the dead one. I don't blame OWC for the current state of > computer technology; they are no worse and probably better than most > companies, though their tech support can stink at times; the owner is > not hiring very knowledgeable geeks anymore, probably to save money. > But I've got an account with them and it's a lot more convenient for > me to buy a drive online with a few mouse clicks than it is to get in > my car and go off to town to buy one at a computer store, which can > waste a good part of a day. Don't forget to check on line at OWC for a record of your purchase > > Thanks for the freezer suggestion, Al. I've heard of that treatment, > too. Freezing things shrinks them and frees up stuck parts > temporarily. My drive isn't stuck, though; it spins up freely, but it > just can't read the data anymore. I'll try it, though (I'll try > anything) if Disk Warrior doesn't do any good. I'm still waiting for > DW to arrive in the (snail) mail, since they don't deliver the > upgrades online. The spindle motor isn't stuck but the head positioner might be. Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting "I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway" -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Help! External HD vanished from desktop
On 03-12-2010 01:30, Tom, tba...@nmia.com, wrote: > With that established, what to do now, if anything? Bash the drive > with a hammer, freeze it in the freezer--anything at all--to somehow > make it show on the desktop, at least long enough to get the data off > it? Ask . He is a very wellknown specialist in these. I know him from . HTH, Jo Hissel -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
G4 933 quicksilver
Im following some threads because my quicksilver 933 is acting up. It hangs when I try to run any kind of maintenance program (TTP, Onyx, Disk utility, etc etc). It just goes blank when I try to switch a user or shut down and have to restart constantly. My question is when I open activity monitor I always see "notifier" highlighted, "not responding", and red. What is "Notifier" and could it be my problem or part of my problem? G4 933 1 gig ram, 250 gb Seagate 7200 .8 hard drive (ata), WD 128 drive (ata), internal 500 Gb Seagate 7200.12 sata drive with pci sata card, Gigabit ethernet card, Sonnet 4 port pci usb 2.0 card. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: how do i stop these emails its been a year now!!
An unsubscribe request will likely require a confirmation in the form of a reply to an email which will be sent from the list owner. After doing a proper request be sure to watch for a confirmation message that might not make it through your spam filters because it won't match the list address exactly. Listers would be quite unhappy if anyone could request a termination for someone else! -- --> Halloween == Oct 31 == Dec 25 == Christmas <-- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Changing the subject: WAS: Ungrateful Apple abandons older Mac service
OK then, to finish it off my 2¢ worth :-) If your car got hit by lightning, it will probably hold a charge. But you can drive it close to a lamppost or something, and open the door a bit to just touch that thing. That should discharge the car, and you have saved Sparky’s life!!! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Quicksilver Freezes during software update
Thanks for all the replies so far! Just to be clear, it didn't go to sleep DURING the software update, only after the updates were finished and the computer was idle. There aren't any extra PCI devices, and I'm pretty sure the video card is stock. It's an NVidia Geforce 2MX. I just checked to see what the computer was doing, not having done anything with it since it froze when it woke up. It had gone back to sleep, and upon waking it up, and waiting a minute the computer seemed fine! I'm running software update just to see what it does. Next thing will be testing the ram again. I really need it to be able to sleep. Thanks! -Jonas -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Ungrateful Apple abandons older Mac service
At 4:28 PM -0800 12/2/2010, Clark Martin wrote: The tires are not made of pure rubber. They are made from a blend of rubber, synthetics, metallics, etc. Then there are those pesky steel belts. IOW, your tires are *great* conductors. They are (luckily!) NOT insulators. Incorrect, tires are not "great" conductors, they are POOR conductors, what we in the trade would call "Resistors". Back in the day, in electronics class in HS, we did some, um, tests, firing up things like CRTs and flourescent tubes from various sources. Tires do have some resistance... but not that much really. Slap a wire on a tire and it will fire a CRT right up. Yea, me made some big tesla coils too... - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Help! External HD vanished from desktop
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Tom wrote: > Yes, John, the drive was a fairly new one and OWC may well replace it > if I can find the receipt and warranty among my mounds of paperwork. Your receipt should be available online as part of your ordering information for your account with OWC. I expect you don't need any paper, just to talk with someone at OWC. They should be able to find everything they need to know about your purchase in their online records. I suggest calling now to beat the Christmas rush. > But I've got an account with them and it's a lot more convenient for > me to buy a drive online with a few mouse clicks than it is to get in > my car and go off to town to buy one at a computer store, which can > waste a good part of a day. When I'm ordering an OEM drive and I want to get what I consider a reasonable price on it I tend to wait for something that looks reasonable to me to go on sale at newegg.com. I think the last time I bought a drive from a retail store was in 2003. Maybe 2002. -irrational john -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Help! External HD vanished from desktop
Yes, John, the drive was a fairly new one and OWC may well replace it if I can find the receipt and warranty among my mounds of paperwork. But replacing the drive is a minor issue to me compared to retrieving the data on the dead one. I don't blame OWC for the current state of computer technology; they are no worse and probably better than most companies, though their tech support can stink at times; the owner is not hiring very knowledgeable geeks anymore, probably to save money. But I've got an account with them and it's a lot more convenient for me to buy a drive online with a few mouse clicks than it is to get in my car and go off to town to buy one at a computer store, which can waste a good part of a day. Thanks for the freezer suggestion, Al. I've heard of that treatment, too. Freezing things shrinks them and frees up stuck parts temporarily. My drive isn't stuck, though; it spins up freely, but it just can't read the data anymore. I'll try it, though (I'll try anything) if Disk Warrior doesn't do any good. I'm still waiting for DW to arrive in the (snail) mail, since they don't deliver the upgrades online. Tom -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Help! External HD vanished from desktop
One possible trick to retrieve data, place unit in freezer overnight and try again. Also, look at this thread in the leopardlist: http://groups.google.com/group/leopardlist/browse_thread/thread/38989eeb976f41fa Disk Warrior or Drive Genius? Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Quicksilver Freezes during software update
On Dec 2, 2010, at 9:29 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: Ok. So I ran disk utility, and left the machine unattended. It fell asleep after the verification came back OK. When I woke it up, it froze the same way it did before. I'm realizing that every time I ran the software update, the computer fell asleep at the end, and it froze when I woke it. So maybe it has a problem waking up? I agree with others ... having a machine Sleep while something like a Software Update is in progress, is asking for trouble. I usually stop everything I'm doing, and only do the update ... keeping it simple. The other thing I thought of: I was told once it was a good idea to put the original video card in when doing a software update and/or re- installation of OS X. In my case, a Quicksilver 2002 Dual 1GHz with a GeForce4 MX. Then, after all updates are complete and the machine is running acceptibly, replace the video card with any upgrade I had done (ATI Radeon 9800 Pro Mac Edition). Any PCI card is suspect of causing problems with waking from Sleep. Unless it states it supports Sleep ... The only solution is to set the machine to Never Sleep. I think unused HDs can spin down safely IMO. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Question about Quicksilver
On 11/30/10 4:42 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: Twice in one day my G4 Quicksilver shut down snip--- Also, any ideas where I can get a DC5V power cord for a USB 4-Port Hub? It is a Belkin Model F5U014-OE So far Radio (Rat) Shack and Walmart are a bust for a power cord with changeable tips (Walmart sells them for use in your car's cigarette lighter though) specs http://www.belkin.com/support/kb/kb.asp?a=3108&langid= Google search gave a long list of generic ps. http://www.google.com/search?q=5v+dc+power+supply&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a also netgear has a %v one for their 110/100 hubs. (Ask for PN if u need it) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Ungrateful Apple abandons older Mac service
On Dec 3, 2010, at 3:05 AM, Ted Treen wrote: On Dec 2, 2010, at 7:10 PM, Yersinia wrote: > On 12/2/10 7:54 PM, James Therrault wrote: >> > > Yesh. Personally, I think I'll just stay indoors during a thunder-and-lightning storm! :-O Hiding under the bed might offer even more "security." JT _But what about the monsters that lurk under the bed? (I know it's true - I read it in "Calvin & Hobbes) Ted The only monster that would scare the belivin' daylights outta me is a sudden appearance of a Banana II PC! JT (Who sometimes yearns for the simplicity of yesteryear) How to Stay Asleep Cambridge Researchers have developed an all natural sleep aid just for you. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/4cf8e61de94e94abcbfst04duc -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Word list Generator???
> I need a generator that could give me a txt file of, for example, every > possible combination of the numbers 1234567890, or letters abcdefg. I might > be dreaming here. (One Jonas ate up the other’s topic, but it all comes back:) This thing may be doing what you want, but you need to have Python installed for it to work: http://mac.softpedia.com/get/Utilities/Word-Permutations.shtml You could also program it yourself, e.g. in AppleScript, but I guess it’ll take forever to execute. Note that the output files get real big for longer strings: For "abcdefg" it’s about 40k, but for "1234567890" it’s 40MB (3.628.800 permutations). -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Ungrateful Apple abandons older Mac service
From: James Therrault To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, 3 December, 2010 2:19:22 Subject: Re: Ungrateful Apple abandons older Mac service On Dec 2, 2010, at 7:10 PM, Yersinia wrote: > On 12/2/10 7:54 PM, James Therrault wrote: >> >> On Dec 2, 2010, at 2:44 PM, Dan wrote: >> >>> At 8:44 PM -0800 12/1/2010, Jonas Lopez wrote: a minor wise point here - if you are ever in your car and a storm causes electric overhead wires to fall on the car and you can see sparks outside -- DO NOT MOVE, DO NOT GET OUT OF YOUR CAR - you are in no real danger provided your not a part of the ELECTRIC CIRCUIT >>> >>> Correct. >>> - the metal of your car is ELECTRIFIED but the tires will prevent it from burning since they act as a nice insulator. >>> >>> Incorrect. The tires are not made of pure rubber. They are made from a >>> blend >>>of rubber, synthetics, metallics, etc. Then there are those pesky steel >>>belts. >>>IOW, your tires are *great* conductors. They are (luckily!) NOT insulators. >>> >>> You don't get electrocuted, as long as you're inside the car, because the >>>current is passing thru the metal chassis, thru the tires, to ground. Some >>>of >>>the current is going thru you, but it's a trivial amount, as electricity >>>prefers >>>the better route - thru the tires to ground. >> >> It might be worth mentioning that the car acts as a Faraday (sp?) box >> whereas >>most of the voltage/current remains on the outer perimeter. >> >> >>> The way out of this is NOT TO STEP OUT as that will complete the electrical circuit and you will be toast. >>> >>> Correct. If you were to step out of the car, while still in contact with >>> the >>>chasis, then the current would use you as the better route to ground. That >>>would be bad. >>> BUT if you can jump out BEING SURE YOUR TOTALLY IN THE AIR then you can exit the car with no problems. >>> >>> But to take that flying leap... Current jumps at the rate of about 10,000 >>>volts per inch. You better clear the car completely, *and* all the wet >>>pavement, by quite a bit... This is totally not recommended. The best >>>thing to >>>do is just sit tight until the power is turned off. > > Yesh. Personally, I think I'll just stay indoors during a >thunder-and-lightning storm! :-O Hiding under the bed might offer even more "security." JT _But what about the monsters that lurk under the bed? (I know it's true - I read it in "Calvin & Hobbes) Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list