Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?
The used Apples I bought had the classic programs taken off. I tried to add them again but couldn't . They only worked partially. Apple works was great though when it worked. -- From: Lawrence David Eden lde...@comcast.net Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2010 7:37 AM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs? For me, the answer is simple: My G4 PPC works perfectly and runs the software that I need at an acceptable speed. An added advantage is that my G4 can still boot into OS 9 when needed and I can connect my old SCSI hard drives easily too. I have several friends that insist on buying the latest and the greatest from Apple or various software vendors. I, on the other hand, am happy with what I have. My only complaint with my G4 is that it is a little jerky when I watch videos on the internet...voice and video are a little out of sync. My wife has a G5 iMac, and I have an Intel based laptop that one of my schools issued meboth are very fast and very slickbut neither Mac makes me envious. So, in short, I will upgrade when I have to but probably not before. Larry -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?
I have two older Macs with Panther and Tiger on them. I have a Quicksilver with Leopard. I plan on holding onto them. They all work well. I really like Apples. I only have the Quicksilver out though as there isn't room to put three desk tops on my desk. I have a new Dell with Windows 7 on my desk as well. The new Apples do not fit my budget. Before I bought the new Dell, I spent one month checking out Apples. There were no good deals anywhere and I am retired. I bought the Dell with all new technology, complete with lcd monitor, multi-function printer, mouse and keyboard for $599. For that same price I could buy a square box called a Mac Mini with nothing else. I bought the Dell and went on the internet for a used Quicksilver. I upgraded it and it is great. If Apple wants to sell more computers, they are going to have to realize that they will have to offer better deals. The competition is stiff. I Really wanted to buy a new Apple but didn't want what I could afford and couldn't afford what I wanted. There are a lot of people like me out there. A week ago my husband and I went to the Apple store to check new computers, desktop and laptops. If I could afford it ,I thought it might be interesting to add a Macintel to my collection. It was depressing to discover that I Still can only afford the Macmini, with nothing else. Back to the internet for a used one- -- From: ===( )8 yersi...@verizon.net Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 4:34 PM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs? Andreas writes, So you will be keeping the PowerPC once you'll finally buy an oldused Intel-Mac... MAYBE SOMEDAY I MIGHT buy one of those damned Macintels, but I don't know that YET. Please don't tell me what I'll be doing in the future, OK? Having seen a Mac Mini for 500 Euro (the prices should be 1:1 in Dollars, right?) I cannot really see the fuzz about it. You'll get a small Mac with a better speed and a new and supported operating system. You can continue to use whatever peripherials you may have, like the monitor and the USB keyboard and mouse. According to the currency converter in my Quicksilver's Dashboard, 500 Euro = 706.778 USD, which is WAY OVER my budget for anything that isn't essential, such as computers I don't need, such as Macintels. If you upgrade a Power Mac with RAM, maybe a processor upgrade too and a bigger hard drive, you'll get close to 500 bucks too. I do not need a processor upgrade. My Power Macs (G4 1.5 GHz Mini, G4 867 Quicksilver and G3/800 iBook) are also already maxed on RAM. They all make me happy exactly the way they are. I only need a couple of LITTLE stuffs at the moment (two items I can get for $0-$30 depending on what my boyfriend turns up), and once I get 'em I'll be done for YEARS AND YEARS. You won't be able to run Classic Mac OS applications though. So you will want to keep your Power Mac anyway. Geez! I KNOW what I need for my own computing, and that is PPC Macs running Tiger and lower, which I HAVE and LOVE, thankyouverymuch! Now will you please stop trolling about the goddamn future? Right now I don't GIVE a donkey's ass about the freakin' future! Listers in general -- I know, I'm kind of testy today, but I'm REALLY sick and tired of this push push push from Bleeding Edge people! I promise from now on I'll just ignore this Andreas person and all the other Bleeding Edgers. ~Yersinia. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?
I tried all three and find my preference for Os is Apple, Windows and Linux, in that order. perhaps I am just more used to the other two. I know Linux is great for old Windows computers. I didn't realize that it was just as good for Apples.. From: Kasey Smith Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 6:32 PM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs? On Jan 21, 2010, at 5:23 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jan 21, 2010, at 4:01 PM, Kasey Smith wrote: On Jan 21, 2010, at 1:08 PM, Mac User #330250 wrote: _But_ my perspective was always to run Linux on it, just like I did -and do- with all my x86-PCs. So for me it was mainly a new experience and to see if I could manage a difference hardware architecture with Linux. Don't put linux on an intel mac btw... it could kill it. WTF? Maybe it'll stop working in depression and despair from being saddled from such a poor imitation of OS X, but kill it, like in render non functional, bricked, pinin' for the fjords killed? No way. You can go a long way towards bricking your system doing stupid low-level computer tricks if you don't know what you're doing, but it's always recoverable. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs I AM NOT kidding. Linux does not know how two work the CPU voltage part of the SMC chip, which makes electrons jump the electron paths in the CPU, eventually boring new paths and shorting out the CPU. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?
I'm not cheap. I'm retired. please let me know where I can find an Apple for almost free. -- From: Paul Stamsen pjs...@bresnan.net Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 3:29 PM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs? Previously, at 3:31 pm -0500 1/21/10, graphics...@columbus.rr.com wrote: Mac User #330250 macuser330...@gmx.net wrote: = So, G-Group: Why are you (still) PowerPC-based Mac users? because I can't afford to upgrade for at least 2 more years. Besides, what's wrong with buying a new computer every 10 yrs? I'm so cheap I wait until they're almost free! P. -- The worst sin toward our fellow creatures is not to hate them, but to be indifferent to them: that's the essence of inhumanity. --George Bernard Shaw -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Thinking about a quicksilver...
Mine is 2002 with a 933 MHz and some added memory. It works well. I am not an expert though. -- From: Dana Collins dlcatft...@verizon.net Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 8:29 PM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Thinking about a quicksilver... On 1/19/10 8:18 PM, Jeffrey Engle of macgu...@gmail.com sent After adding up the dollars to put this MDD together, I'm wondering what the best quicksilver would be? I'm looking at 800mhz systems on ebay for around 100 dollars? sure they're only 800mhz single processor systems, but I can upgrade it later can't I? I just need a really good tiger/os9 machine for odds and ends what's the best q- silver to get? Jeff Hello Jeff, This is easy - shoot for any of the 2002 models (800MHz, 933MHz, or the best of them all, 1GHz DP). The 2002 models introduced native, on-the-board large drive support. Conversely, avoid the initial QS model, the 733Mz unit of 2001 - this was actually slower than the 733MHz Dig. Audio because it dropped the L3 cache on the CPU. HTH, Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Thinking about a quicksilver...
I don't know much about Quicksilvers,only my own whish is a desktop. Did they make quicksilver's in a laptop? -- From: Mac User #330250 macuser330...@gmx.net Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 10:20 AM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Thinking about a quicksilver... -- Original message -- Subject: Re: Thinking about a quicksilver... Date:Mittwoch 20 Januar 2010N From:Christopher Icha the_i...@yahoo.co.uk To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com I always advise people to avoid the Quicksilver. They seem to be the ones that suffer dead power supply problem. Particularly the 733mhz like I have which is now a door stop. Just go on ebay and see how many you find described as: parts only or won't power up or powers up then shuts down I've heard that before a lot from different sources. But why is that? I recieved a QS 2001 733 a year ago or so and upgraded it to be a Dual-800 with no problem at all. The system board is okay as is the power supply. At least until now. It was running regularly a few hours a day (with days off inbetween) for years, before that it was in an office where it was propably running all day during working hours. After such a long time I cannot imagine that there is a hidden weakness somewhere. IMHO if it hasn't broken down by now, it never will - at least not for the typical QuickSilver problem. Just for the record: mine was made in Cork, Ireland. That's where the european Macs are assembled... Cheers, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: receipt reply required for each message
I've been ignoring them as well. I just figured it was spam. -- From: Charles Lenington macso...@tds.net Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 9:50 AM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: receipt reply required for each message Is anyone else getting the acknowledgement message for all messages that nestami...@gmail.com sends to the list? It's starting to get a little annoying. I have been ignoring them but I think I'll start replying. Maybe the hint will cause him change his email settings. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: We accept Apple is moving on
I am not skilled at computers but I like that idea and would follow it. I am retired and would like to keep my older Apple going until I get a newer Apple computer in a few years.Once these new Apples grow older,they will be easier to afford. - Original Message - From: Nestamicky To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 9:02 AM Subject: We accept Apple is moving on ...But for those of us who're going to be holding onto our PPC machines, as did those who held onto theirs before PPC, could we start a resource useful to make these machines stay current, run smoothly and efficiently? For example, it just came out of the OSX10.4 on G3 thread that you can turn of indexing and spotlight to get a much faster machine, as well as, install a better video card that stock on G3s, and I presume G4s. These are three good tips that could change the life of these machines and their owners. Could we pitch in similar tips and bits, here; everyone, and I will offer to make a file and post it in the files section of the group? This way there's a centralised place one could go to get this information; so it's efficiency for machine and owner. You may also contribute links. Just an idea --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Rumor: Snow Leopard to support PPC !!
I agree. Who needs the intel? I just finished upgrading a Quicksilver G4 that has Leopard on it. I don't know how the original owner got that on but he did. I even have 10.5.8 on it. - Original Message - From: MacGuy macgu...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 6:20 PM Subject: Re: Rumor: Snow Leopard to support PPC !! On Aug 13, 2009, at 4:09 PM, Nikki Wraith wrote: Don't hold your breath. PowerPC is dead, as far as Apple is concerned. The day after that article was posted - June 8th - at wwdc it was announced 10.6 is intel o ly. Yes, power PC is dead BUT, the powermac G5 that I JUST bought is going to give me (knock on wood) years of great mac times ahead.. at least till the mac pro's are within my reach:-) Jeff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Should I upgrade to 10.5.8 on a G4 933 Quicksilver that already has 10.5.7 on it?
10.5.8 worked ok. I don't use Blue Ray or airport though. - Original Message - From: Al Poulin alfred.pou...@gmail.com To: G3-5 List g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 9:45 AM Subject: Re: Should I upgrade to 10.5.8 on a G4 933 Quicksilver that already has 10.5.7 on it? On Aug 7, 11:10 pm, ll mlitwin3...@att.net wrote: Will there be a problem? I just had this computer upgraded from 733 to 933 and added ram to total 1.3.I don't have 10.5 dvds to reinstall if there is a major problem. Yes, you should -- some time later. There is always a risk in making an OS version update. So it is always best to have the Leopard DVD on hand. Also, there have been a few problems reported by people making this update, but if your machine is pretty much plain vanilla with standard applications and no third-party geeky enhancements to the OS, things should go well. Check with the 933 hardware vendor for any problems with the OS update. Al Poulin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: help in upgrading powermac quick silver 733
I just received the processor board,a small fan and a rectangular thing with ridges that I am assuming is the heat sink. These were all taken out of the same machine by the seller . Thank you for the other instructions.Now all I have to do is call the guy who will do the upgrade. - Original Message - From: PeterH peterh5...@rattlebrain.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 3:40 PM Subject: Re: help in upgrading powermac quick silver 733 On Aug 5, 2009, at 12:23 PM, Mac User #330250 wrote: The three peaces for the QuickSilver should be: * the processor daughter card (riser card, processor module) * the cooling fan and * the heatsink. For the cooling fan you should be able to use the one that is still in your QuickSilver. I think it is the same for all the processors. This is true ... the Quicksilver fan units are all the same. This was not true of the Digital Audios, for example, as each processor type required its own fan module type. The processor daugther card and the heatsink are a unit when assembled, but the original apple processor cards are build so that you need to install the processor first, and then you are able to place the heatsink on it with the latches engaged. In a Quicksilver, as in a Digital Audio, the heatsink must meet several requirements: 1) the heat transfer pad must be directly above the processor die or dies, and 2) the cooling fins must accommodate the VRM (voltage regulator module) choke coil, and any other components which are above the seating plane of the processor. This means that a DA or QS processor should never be bought (nor sold) without the heatsink with which it originally came. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: help in upgrading powermac quick silver 733
Thanks for the article. The metal thing with ridges I received is definitely a heat sink. - Original Message - From: Mac User #330250 macuser330...@gmx.net To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 2:23 PM Subject: Re: help in upgrading powermac quick silver 733 On Tuesday, 4th of August 2009, Liam Proven wrote: 2009/8/4 mlitwin3797 mlitwin3...@att.net: This processor had three pieces to it,a vent looking thing,a processor board and one other.The ad said the Hs was included,whatever that is. H/S or HSF means heatsink and fan. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_sink It's probably the vent-looking thing. :¬) The three peaces for the QuickSilver should be: * the processor daughter card (riser card, processor module) * the cooling fan and * the heatsink. For the cooling fan you should be able to use the one that is still in your QuickSilver. I think it is the same for all the processors. The processor daugther card and the heatsink are a unit when assembled, but the original apple processor cards are build so that you need to install the processor first, and then you are able to place the heatsink on it with the latches engaged. I recently put a OWC Mercury Extreme 1.4 GHz processor upgrade into my QS2001 and had to place it on the connectors three times until the QS would boot correctly. So it might be a fuzzy work to get it done correctly the first time, since with the original processor you always need to place the heatsink on when the processor is in already. You may try to * connect the processor daughter card with the mainboard * place the heatsink *without* thermal compound -- !!! dangerous !!! * place and connect the fan THEN try to start the Power Mac. Check if it starts up correctly like this: * you just need to see the Apple logo, in case your hard drive is connected and Mac OS X is installed (check first with your current CPU), or * by pressing Command-Option-O-F you can enter the Open Firmware command prompt Keep the Mac running only as long as you really need to in order to verify the CPU is installed correctly and thus it is working in correct order. Otherwise you may overheat the CPU -- permanent damage may occur and destroy the CPU!!! THEN you place the heatsink the correct way: * remove the heatsink again * put thermal compound on the CPUs (refer to the instructions from the thermal compound you have bought) * place the heat sink on it and make sure it is engaged correctly. YOU'RE DONE! As for the thermal compound: I use Arctic Silver III and its quite good, kept my CPUs in my MDD Dual-1GHz even cooler than the original compound from Apple. On the other hand the original compound was a few years old already, and the Arctic Silver III was new... You may choose any thermal compound, just make sure it is suitable for the aluminium heat sink of the QuickSilver. I hope that helped. Mac User #330250 alias Andreas --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: help in upgrading powermac quick silver 733
This processor had three pieces to it,a vent looking thing,a processor board and one other.The ad said the Hs was included,whatever that is.I am hoping the thermal processor is one of the three items.I felt the price was reasonable so I took a chance.The parts had just been taken out of a Quicksilver 933 and were used.I can see I am going to have to learn more about this machine on the the internet. She came with Leopard. If I don't update the hard drive right now,I can wait to get a decent price on Leopard ppc.Ebay auctions always end up from $80 and up.I have a horror of paying too much for a program. I even just preordered Windows 7 for half price for my other omputer. - Original Message - From: Mac User #330250 macuser330...@gmx.net To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 4:02 PM Subject: Re: help in upgrading powermac quick silver 733 Hello and welcome to this group! You can replace the processor independently from whatever you wish to do with the hard drive. If you have Mac OS X installed already, just replace the processor first and see what you get. Get a fresh thermal compound so the processor won't overheat. Upgrading the hard drive is okay but might not be necessary at all. It depends if you need more space -- Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard requires a more than Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger needed. If you go for a new hard drive, just buy any standard IDE hard disk, also known as PATA (parallel ATA). To install a fresh Mac OS X you will then require a Mac OS X installation CD set or a DVD. I recommend a brand new hard disk, as you never know what happend to a used disk and a drive failure can happen at any time but is more likely if a drive is older. I think with the QuickSilver came either Mac OS X 10.2 Jaguar or 10.3 Panther -- I assume it was the first. Purchasing a copy of Tiger or Leopard will be a good choice, but bare in mind that support for Tiger is beeing dropped this year, and Leopard is then the only supported Mac OS that still runs on PowerPC based Macs. Hope that helped, Andreas alias Mac User #330250 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
