Re: Alternatives to iTunes
Songbird is unfortunately only for Intel Macs [?] On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 2:26 AM, Peter peter1...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 7:12 PM, Ralph sfrea...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Howdy, On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 13:50 -0500, Dan wrote: In the thread iTunes and duplicating songs, on 12/3/2008, Ralph wrote: [...] I have no interest in iTunes. It just does not work well enough to merit use. So what don't you like about iTunes? iTunes has a bad license. It is not the worst license I have seen, but the worst part is it got annoying having to read the license and agree to it so often. It seems like it is updated often enough that this became tiresome. One of the worst aspects to me is how Apple just removes capability from iTunes and and there is no recourse. That is the problem with depending on a closed source proprietary application for something that matters to me like the front end of my media collection. iTunes also poorly supports the format of most of my audio collection and that is what I mean about it not working well. I use ogg vorbis for most files. I tested a couple of plugins that added ogg support, but I did not think they worked well. What app(s) are you using instead? I have tried several audio programs, and none seem very close to ideal. I am writing my own program and I'll probably move to that in 2009. My program is more than a simple player, but that is one niche it will fill. Most often now a days, I find myself using vlc. - Dan. Good day, Ralph There is an application called Songbird but I'm not sure which formats it will support. It is Open Source. http://getsongbird.com/ Peter M. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- inline: 323.gif
Re: Alternatives to iTunes
On 13-Dec-08, at 4:48 AM, Brian Durant wrote: Songbird is unfortunately only for Intel Macs Actually, it turns out there is a PPC port available here: http://wiki.songbirdnest.com/Developer/Articles/Builds/Contributed_Builds - Tony --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Alternatives to iTunes
At 9:53 AM -0500 12/13/2008, Tony Gamble wrote: On 13-Dec-08, at 4:48 AM, Brian Durant wrote: Songbird is unfortunately only for Intel Macs Actually, it turns out there is a PPC port available here: http://wiki.songbirdnest.com/Developer/Articles/Builds/Contributed_Builds Interesting. Starting to play with this now! :) - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Alternatives to iTunes
(Yes, Bruce, I know. But I just couldn't resist). At 6:12 PM -0600 12/12/2008, Ralph wrote: On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 13:50 -0500, Dan wrote: In the thread iTunes and duplicating songs, on 12/3/2008, Ralph wrote: [...] I have no interest in iTunes. It just does not work well enough to merit use. So what don't you like about iTunes? iTunes has a bad license. I think I'll leave good vs bad args for elsewhen. I'm looking for on-point tech info here. One of the worst aspects to me is how Apple just removes capability from iTunes and and there is no recourse. Specifics? iTunes also poorly supports the format of most of my audio collection and that is what I mean about it not working well. I use ogg vorbis for most files. I tested a couple of plugins that added ogg support, but I did not think they worked well. iTunes seems to play my ogg albums quite well, using Xiph QuickTime decoders 0.1.8. What exactly do you mean by poorly supports the format? What app(s) are you using instead? I have tried several audio programs, and none seem very close to ideal. What do you consider ideal? I am writing my own program and I'll probably move to that in 2009. My program is more than a simple player, but that is one niche it will fill. Looking forward to seeing a beta, I guess. Most often now a days, I find myself using vlc. hum. Never occurred to me to use VLC as an audio player. Isn't that about as feature-full as using Finder and QuickTime Player? - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Alternatives to iTunes
In the thread iTunes and duplicating songs, on 12/3/2008, Ralph wrote: [...] I have no interest in iTunes. It just does not work well enough to merit use. So what don't you like about iTunes? What app(s) are you using instead? - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Alternatives to iTunes
Howdy, On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 13:50 -0500, Dan wrote: In the thread iTunes and duplicating songs, on 12/3/2008, Ralph wrote: [...] I have no interest in iTunes. It just does not work well enough to merit use. So what don't you like about iTunes? iTunes has a bad license. It is not the worst license I have seen, but the worst part is it got annoying having to read the license and agree to it so often. It seems like it is updated often enough that this became tiresome. One of the worst aspects to me is how Apple just removes capability from iTunes and and there is no recourse. That is the problem with depending on a closed source proprietary application for something that matters to me like the front end of my media collection. iTunes also poorly supports the format of most of my audio collection and that is what I mean about it not working well. I use ogg vorbis for most files. I tested a couple of plugins that added ogg support, but I did not think they worked well. What app(s) are you using instead? I have tried several audio programs, and none seem very close to ideal. I am writing my own program and I'll probably move to that in 2009. My program is more than a simple player, but that is one niche it will fill. Most often now a days, I find myself using vlc. - Dan. Good day, Ralph --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Alternatives to iTunes
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 7:12 PM, Ralph sfrea...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Howdy, On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 13:50 -0500, Dan wrote: In the thread iTunes and duplicating songs, on 12/3/2008, Ralph wrote: [...] I have no interest in iTunes. It just does not work well enough to merit use. So what don't you like about iTunes? iTunes has a bad license. It is not the worst license I have seen, but the worst part is it got annoying having to read the license and agree to it so often. It seems like it is updated often enough that this became tiresome. One of the worst aspects to me is how Apple just removes capability from iTunes and and there is no recourse. That is the problem with depending on a closed source proprietary application for something that matters to me like the front end of my media collection. iTunes also poorly supports the format of most of my audio collection and that is what I mean about it not working well. I use ogg vorbis for most files. I tested a couple of plugins that added ogg support, but I did not think they worked well. What app(s) are you using instead? I have tried several audio programs, and none seem very close to ideal. I am writing my own program and I'll probably move to that in 2009. My program is more than a simple player, but that is one niche it will fill. Most often now a days, I find myself using vlc. - Dan. Good day, Ralph There is an application called Songbird but I'm not sure which formats it will support. It is Open Source. http://getsongbird.com/ Peter M. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
