Re: [Audyssey] An Idea for a Project

2008-03-10 Thread kelby carlson
Here's what I'M thinking the "book" would look like.  (The 
problem I see with having all the Audyssey issues lumped together 
is simply that there's a lot of extraneous stuff in there.  This 
book would be for the public and an introduction for others 
interested in the subject.)

--The book would be divided into sections chronologically 
ordered.  Such as: The first section would be "Precursors: 
Accessible Gaming Before 1996".  The second would be "Beginnings: 
The Birth of Audyssey and The Genesis of Gaming for the Blind, 
1996-1997".  The third (possibly), "Blazing The First Steps of 
the Trail: Accessible Gaming Rises Up, 1998-1999".  The fourth: 
"Interactive Sound: Bavisoft and the Growth of the Modern 
Accessible Game, 2000")

--Historical articles would be first.
--NEXT would follow articles of a theoretical or programming 
nature.
--Third would be two noted games that are significant preferably 
still being played today in some sort of way.
--And last in each section would be profiles, background 
information, and interviews with significant people of that year 
of accessible gaming.

Kelby

Doomed Dragon

"Tidings of death have many wings."

--J.  R.  R.  Tolkien

"For Venus smiles not in a house of tears."

--William Shakespeare

"I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow 
for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory.  I love only 
that which they defend: the city of the Men of Númenor."

--J.  R.  R.  Tolkien

Beautiful she is, sir! Lovely! Sometimes like a great tree in 
flower, sometimes like a white daffadowndilly, small and slender 
like.  Hard as diamonds, soft as moonlight.  Warm as sunlight, 
cold as frost in the stars.  Proud and far-off as a 
snow-mountain, and as merry as any lass   I ever saw with daisies 
in her hair in springtime."

--J.  R.  R.  Tolkien

"By the pricking of my thumbs, something wicked this way comes."

--William Shakespeare




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Re: [Audyssey] An Idea for a Project

2008-03-10 Thread Charles Rivard
That would be one heck of a long read!  I prefer separate issues because 
some were published around the Christmas season, geared toward what is out 
there for purchase as gifts.

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Jesus Christ, and the American Soldier.

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Hmmm, I got an idea, what if we put all the Audyssey issues in one file.
Meaning putting all the magazines in to one file. Let me know what you
think. I volunteer my time to do it. But it would have to be in the Summer.
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possibly, but I was really thinking more of a book (possibly
online and maybe available for free.)

Kelby

Doomed Dragon

"Tidings of death have many wings."

--J.  R.  R.  Tolkien

"For Venus smiles not in a house of tears."

--William Shakespeare

"I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow
for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory.  I love only
that which they defend: the city of the Men of Númenor."

--J.  R.  R.  Tolkien

Beautiful she is, sir! Lovely! Sometimes like a great tree in
flower, sometimes like a white daffadowndilly, small and slender
like.  Hard as diamonds, soft as moonlight.  Warm as sunlight,
cold as frost in the stars.  Proud and far-off as a
snow-mountain, and as merry as any lass   I ever saw with daisies
in her hair in springtime."

--J.  R.  R.  Tolkien

"By the pricking of my thumbs, something wicked this way comes."

--William Shakespeare



> - Original Message -
>From: shaun everiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: Gamers Discussion list Date sent: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 16:20:54 -0500 (CDT)
>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Idea for a Project

>Well if we pulled all the history articles from audyssey we would
have quite a load of things already pluss the inteviews.
>Pluss the online sources to other things if just linked to.
>I suppose we could have something that would be part of audyssey
or part of audyssey.org, I mean lets face it all that exists up
there is just email lists.
>No home page I have seen just has email lists.
>Maybe some sort of wiki or just the actual book.
>Hmm.
>At 03:29 a.m.  10/03/2008, you wrote:
>>Dear List,

>>This is only an idea, but I'd really like input on this as it
>>might end up involving the whole community's efforts.  I am
>>thinking how cool it would be if the community began an online
>>"book" that would basically span the history of accessible games.
>>It would mostly be a compilation effort (probably from Audyssey),
>>and would include history, theory, profiles of significant
>>developers, and reviews of big games.  People could obviously
>>write stuff for it that would be included.  I even thought of a
>>title.  "The Sound of the Screen: The Past, Present, and Future
>>of Accessible Gaming," penned by the Audyssey Community.  What do
>>you guys think of this? Maybe something we could all work on over
>>the summer?

>>Kelby

>>Doomed Dragon

>>"Tidings of death have many wings."

>>--J.  R.  R.  Tolkien

>>"For Venus smiles not in a house of tears."

>>--William Shakespeare

>>"I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow
>>for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory.  I love only
>>that which they defend: the city of the Men of Númenor."

>>--J.  R.  R.  Tolkien

>>Beautiful she is, sir! Lovely! Sometimes like a great tree in
>>flower, sometimes like a white daffadowndilly, small and slender
>>like.  Hard as diamonds, soft as moonlight.  Warm as sunlight,
>>cold as frost in the stars.  Proud and far-off as a
>>snow-mountain, and as merry as any lass   I ever saw with daisies
>>in her hair in springtime."

>>--J.  R.  R.  Tolkien

>>"By the pricking of my thumbs, something wicked this way comes."

>>--William Shakespeare




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Re: [Audyssey] An Idea for a Project

2008-03-10 Thread Charles Rivard
It would have to be updated every quarter.

--
Only two defining forces have ever  offered to die  for you,
Jesus Christ, and the American Soldier.

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Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Idea for a Project


Also to add to my previous message. That would be considered a book.
Jose Lomeli
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Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 6:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Idea for a Project


possibly, but I was really thinking more of a book (possibly
online and maybe available for free.)

Kelby

Doomed Dragon

"Tidings of death have many wings."

--J.  R.  R.  Tolkien

"For Venus smiles not in a house of tears."

--William Shakespeare

"I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow
for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory.  I love only
that which they defend: the city of the Men of Númenor."

--J.  R.  R.  Tolkien

Beautiful she is, sir! Lovely! Sometimes like a great tree in
flower, sometimes like a white daffadowndilly, small and slender
like.  Hard as diamonds, soft as moonlight.  Warm as sunlight,
cold as frost in the stars.  Proud and far-off as a
snow-mountain, and as merry as any lass   I ever saw with daisies
in her hair in springtime."

--J.  R.  R.  Tolkien

"By the pricking of my thumbs, something wicked this way comes."

--William Shakespeare



> - Original Message -
>From: shaun everiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: Gamers Discussion list Date sent: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 16:20:54 -0500 (CDT)
>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Idea for a Project

>Well if we pulled all the history articles from audyssey we would
have quite a load of things already pluss the inteviews.
>Pluss the online sources to other things if just linked to.
>I suppose we could have something that would be part of audyssey
or part of audyssey.org, I mean lets face it all that exists up
there is just email lists.
>No home page I have seen just has email lists.
>Maybe some sort of wiki or just the actual book.
>Hmm.
>At 03:29 a.m.  10/03/2008, you wrote:
>>Dear List,

>>This is only an idea, but I'd really like input on this as it
>>might end up involving the whole community's efforts.  I am
>>thinking how cool it would be if the community began an online
>>"book" that would basically span the history of accessible games.
>>It would mostly be a compilation effort (probably from Audyssey),
>>and would include history, theory, profiles of significant
>>developers, and reviews of big games.  People could obviously
>>write stuff for it that would be included.  I even thought of a
>>title.  "The Sound of the Screen: The Past, Present, and Future
>>of Accessible Gaming," penned by the Audyssey Community.  What do
>>you guys think of this? Maybe something we could all work on over
>>the summer?

>>Kelby

>>Doomed Dragon

>>"Tidings of death have many wings."

>>--J.  R.  R.  Tolkien

>>"For Venus smiles not in a house of tears."

>>--William Shakespeare

>>"I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow
>>for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory.  I love only
>>that which they defend: the city of the Men of Númenor."

>>--J.  R.  R.  Tolkien

>>Beautiful she is, sir! Lovely! Sometimes like a great tree in
>>flower, sometimes like a white daffadowndilly, small and slender
>>like.  Hard as diamonds, soft as moonlight.  Warm as sunlight,
>>cold as frost in the stars.  Proud and far-off as a
>>snow-mountain, and as merry as any lass   I ever saw with daisies
>>in her hair in springtime."

>>--J.  R.  R.  Tolkien

>>"By the pricking of my thumbs, something wicked this way comes."

>>--William Shakespeare




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Re: [Audyssey] An Idea for a Project

2008-03-10 Thread nicol
I'd say the Audyssey magazine will suffice.
If you put all 50 issues together you have a pretty neat book about game
accessibility.
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Subject: [Audyssey] An Idea for a Project

Dear List,

This is only an idea, but I'd really like input on this as it
might end up involving the whole community's efforts.  I am
thinking how cool it would be if the community began an online
"book" that would basically span the history of accessible games.
It would mostly be a compilation effort (probably from Audyssey),
and would include history, theory, profiles of significant
developers, and reviews of big games.  People could obviously
write stuff for it that would be included.  I even thought of a
title.  "The Sound of the Screen: The Past, Present, and Future
of Accessible Gaming," penned by the Audyssey Community.  What do
you guys think of this? Maybe something we could all work on over
the summer?

Kelby

Doomed Dragon

"Tidings of death have many wings."

--J.  R.  R.  Tolkien

"For Venus smiles not in a house of tears."

--William Shakespeare

"I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow
for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory.  I love only
that which they defend: the city of the Men of Númenor."

--J.  R.  R.  Tolkien

Beautiful she is, sir! Lovely! Sometimes like a great tree in
flower, sometimes like a white daffadowndilly, small and slender
like.  Hard as diamonds, soft as moonlight.  Warm as sunlight,
cold as frost in the stars.  Proud and far-off as a
snow-mountain, and as merry as any lass   I ever saw with daisies
in her hair in springtime."

--J.  R.  R.  Tolkien

"By the pricking of my thumbs, something wicked this way comes."

--William Shakespeare




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Re: [Audyssey] An Idea for a Project

2008-03-09 Thread shaun everiss
And again.
The mmag was never meant as a book.
Someone would have to rewrite some if not all of the mags to update them to the 
present day.
I'm happy to check every website from 1990 or whatever when the mag came out 
and every email address  to see if its valid as long as someone can send the 
load to me.
However I would know next to nothing about extraction of the info or writing 
the thing.
Its still a major job.
I suppose if you had a contents page with all the issues  as chapters and then 
just lump it that way.
It would work, however most of the stuff is invalid.
Right now it doesn't stuffing matter.
however if we are going to make a stuffing book  out of it then then for frag 
sake it better be right otherwise what is the stuffing point.
I just feel that if we are really going to do this then we need to do it 
properly.
And this imediately ilimonates all the game developers.
They have enough of a time developing the games for us and then we have the 
users.
Now we for the case of actually needing people to write things may have to cut 
out people that have not good english, not to saying that all people that have 
english as a second language should be cut out but those that are not good 
writers or whtever in english if englishes is a second language will have to be 
concidered.
This does not apply to people that are dumb spellers like myself.
Right so we have to cut out well a few I should imagine.
Now that we have done that.
has anyone got a number if we say for acodemic reasons cut out out all 
developers and every address that doesn't origionate in the us, uk or other 
english speaking country, or whatever.
How many do we have left.
Come to think of it how many members do we have, out of all those after we cut 
out everything we need to, we then have the hard issue about how many post, and 
how often.
And do we cut out those that don't post and just listen or what.
And then well we may just end up with a rather ibismal number of users.
Then we actually need time to do this.
I have time to kill.
So we cut all the people without jobs then everything that has some job has to 
go etc.

What the jist of it is that we need to research the how we will pull it off.
Weather we just write the entire thing from scratch or just cobble it from 
existing code means we still need to know how we will actually get it done.
At 04:24 p.m. 10/03/2008, you wrote:
>Also to add to my previous message. That would be considered a book.
>Jose Lomeli
>Email:
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>- Original Message - 
>From: "kelby carlson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
>Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 6:29 PM
>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Idea for a Project
>
>
>possibly, but I was really thinking more of a book (possibly
>online and maybe available for free.)
>
>Kelby
>
>Doomed Dragon
>
>"Tidings of death have many wings."
>
>--J.  R.  R.  Tolkien
>
>"For Venus smiles not in a house of tears."
>
>--William Shakespeare
>
>"I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow
>for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory.  I love only
>that which they defend: the city of the Men of Númenor."
>
>--J.  R.  R.  Tolkien
>
>Beautiful she is, sir! Lovely! Sometimes like a great tree in
>flower, sometimes like a white daffadowndilly, small and slender
>like.  Hard as diamonds, soft as moonlight.  Warm as sunlight,
>cold as frost in the stars.  Proud and far-off as a
>snow-mountain, and as merry as any lass   I ever saw with daisies
>in her hair in springtime."
>
>--J.  R.  R.  Tolkien
>
>"By the pricking of my thumbs, something wicked this way comes."
>
>--William Shakespeare
>
>
>
>> - Original Message -
>>From: shaun everiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>To: Gamers Discussion list >Date sent: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 16:20:54 -0500 (CDT)
>>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Idea for a Project
>
>>Well if we pulled all the history articles from audyssey we would
>have quite a load of things already pluss the inteviews.
>>Pluss the online sources to other things if just linked to.
>>I suppose we could have something that would be part of audyssey
>or part of audyssey.org, I mean lets face it all that exists up
>there is just email lists.
>>No home page I have seen just has email lists.
>>Maybe some sort of wiki or just the actual book.
>>Hmm.
>>At 03:29 a.m.  10/03/2008, you wrote:
>>>Dear List,
>
>>>This is only an idea, but I'd really like input on this as

Re: [Audyssey] An Idea for a Project

2008-03-09 Thread shaun everiss
that would be good.
One thing though.
The mag file would still need to be edited, eg there are now a load of invalid 
links in audyssey since its last revisions.
Ie developer sites have changed, pcsgames has had a new site for a while.
we don't use softcon, and or yahoogroups.
There are probably loads of email errors not to mention that the editors in 
several were not done by ron and even so a load of the older mags are 
compuserve addressed.
Its plorsable.
However I wouldn't just shove the entire mag list into 1 file.
someone needs to extract sall the links and such and check them out, someone 
needs to do all the emails to.
I could probably do the checking if someone sent me every link in audyssey 
email http, ftp, etc.
One major change is that ifarchive is no longer at gmd.
Even so I wouldn't use ifarchive.org anymore its to slow.
I think there is an ibiblio link thats real fast.
I also don't know how up to date all article info is.
Fine to store everything in the mags but even when I started to read them a few 
years back before I got the proper use of the net I found there were a few 
invalid links.

So the short answer is that yeah sounds good but lumping it all and sending it 
is not.
At 04:22 p.m. 10/03/2008, you wrote:
>Hmmm, I got an idea, what if we put all the Audyssey issues in one file. 
>Meaning putting all the magazines in to one file. Let me know what you 
>think. I volunteer my time to do it. But it would have to be in the Summer.
>Jose Lomeli
>Email:
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>- Original Message - 
>From: "kelby carlson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
>Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 6:29 PM
>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Idea for a Project
>
>
>possibly, but I was really thinking more of a book (possibly
>online and maybe available for free.)
>
>Kelby
>
>Doomed Dragon
>
>"Tidings of death have many wings."
>
>--J.  R.  R.  Tolkien
>
>"For Venus smiles not in a house of tears."
>
>--William Shakespeare
>
>"I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow
>for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory.  I love only
>that which they defend: the city of the Men of Númenor."
>
>--J.  R.  R.  Tolkien
>
>Beautiful she is, sir! Lovely! Sometimes like a great tree in
>flower, sometimes like a white daffadowndilly, small and slender
>like.  Hard as diamonds, soft as moonlight.  Warm as sunlight,
>cold as frost in the stars.  Proud and far-off as a
>snow-mountain, and as merry as any lass   I ever saw with daisies
>in her hair in springtime."
>
>--J.  R.  R.  Tolkien
>
>"By the pricking of my thumbs, something wicked this way comes."
>
>--William Shakespeare
>
>
>
>> - Original Message -
>>From: shaun everiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>To: Gamers Discussion list >Date sent: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 16:20:54 -0500 (CDT)
>>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Idea for a Project
>
>>Well if we pulled all the history articles from audyssey we would
>have quite a load of things already pluss the inteviews.
>>Pluss the online sources to other things if just linked to.
>>I suppose we could have something that would be part of audyssey
>or part of audyssey.org, I mean lets face it all that exists up
>there is just email lists.
>>No home page I have seen just has email lists.
>>Maybe some sort of wiki or just the actual book.
>>Hmm.
>>At 03:29 a.m.  10/03/2008, you wrote:
>>>Dear List,
>
>>>This is only an idea, but I'd really like input on this as it
>>>might end up involving the whole community's efforts.  I am
>>>thinking how cool it would be if the community began an online
>>>"book" that would basically span the history of accessible games.
>>>It would mostly be a compilation effort (probably from Audyssey),
>>>and would include history, theory, profiles of significant
>>>developers, and reviews of big games.  People could obviously
>>>write stuff for it that would be included.  I even thought of a
>>>title.  "The Sound of the Screen: The Past, Present, and Future
>>>of Accessible Gaming," penned by the Audyssey Community.  What do
>>>you guys think of this? Maybe something we could all work on over
>>>the summer?
>
>>>Kelby
>
>>>Doomed Dragon
>
>>>"Tidings of death have many wings."
>
>>>--J.  R.  R.  Tolkien
>
>>>"Fo

Re: [Audyssey] An Idea for a Project

2008-03-09 Thread Jose Lomeli
Also to add to my previous message. That would be considered a book.
Jose Lomeli
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- Original Message - 
From: "kelby carlson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 6:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Idea for a Project


possibly, but I was really thinking more of a book (possibly
online and maybe available for free.)

Kelby

Doomed Dragon

"Tidings of death have many wings."

--J.  R.  R.  Tolkien

"For Venus smiles not in a house of tears."

--William Shakespeare

"I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow
for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory.  I love only
that which they defend: the city of the Men of Númenor."

--J.  R.  R.  Tolkien

Beautiful she is, sir! Lovely! Sometimes like a great tree in
flower, sometimes like a white daffadowndilly, small and slender
like.  Hard as diamonds, soft as moonlight.  Warm as sunlight,
cold as frost in the stars.  Proud and far-off as a
snow-mountain, and as merry as any lass   I ever saw with daisies
in her hair in springtime."

--J.  R.  R.  Tolkien

"By the pricking of my thumbs, something wicked this way comes."

--William Shakespeare



> - Original Message -
>From: shaun everiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Idea for a Project

>Well if we pulled all the history articles from audyssey we would
have quite a load of things already pluss the inteviews.
>Pluss the online sources to other things if just linked to.
>I suppose we could have something that would be part of audyssey
or part of audyssey.org, I mean lets face it all that exists up
there is just email lists.
>No home page I have seen just has email lists.
>Maybe some sort of wiki or just the actual book.
>Hmm.
>At 03:29 a.m.  10/03/2008, you wrote:
>>Dear List,

>>This is only an idea, but I'd really like input on this as it
>>might end up involving the whole community's efforts.  I am
>>thinking how cool it would be if the community began an online
>>"book" that would basically span the history of accessible games.
>>It would mostly be a compilation effort (probably from Audyssey),
>>and would include history, theory, profiles of significant
>>developers, and reviews of big games.  People could obviously
>>write stuff for it that would be included.  I even thought of a
>>title.  "The Sound of the Screen: The Past, Present, and Future
>>of Accessible Gaming," penned by the Audyssey Community.  What do
>>you guys think of this? Maybe something we could all work on over
>>the summer?

>>Kelby

>>Doomed Dragon

>>"Tidings of death have many wings."

>>--J.  R.  R.  Tolkien

>>"For Venus smiles not in a house of tears."

>>--William Shakespeare

>>"I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow
>>for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory.  I love only
>>that which they defend: the city of the Men of Númenor."

>>--J.  R.  R.  Tolkien

>>Beautiful she is, sir! Lovely! Sometimes like a great tree in
>>flower, sometimes like a white daffadowndilly, small and slender
>>like.  Hard as diamonds, soft as moonlight.  Warm as sunlight,
>>cold as frost in the stars.  Proud and far-off as a
>>snow-mountain, and as merry as any lass   I ever saw with daisies
>>in her hair in springtime."

>>--J.  R.  R.  Tolkien

>>"By the pricking of my thumbs, something wicked this way comes."

>>--William Shakespeare




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Re: [Audyssey] An Idea for a Project

2008-03-09 Thread Jose Lomeli
Hmmm, I got an idea, what if we put all the Audyssey issues in one file. 
Meaning putting all the magazines in to one file. Let me know what you 
think. I volunteer my time to do it. But it would have to be in the Summer.
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From: "kelby carlson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 6:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Idea for a Project


possibly, but I was really thinking more of a book (possibly
online and maybe available for free.)

Kelby

Doomed Dragon

"Tidings of death have many wings."

--J.  R.  R.  Tolkien

"For Venus smiles not in a house of tears."

--William Shakespeare

"I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow
for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory.  I love only
that which they defend: the city of the Men of Númenor."

--J.  R.  R.  Tolkien

Beautiful she is, sir! Lovely! Sometimes like a great tree in
flower, sometimes like a white daffadowndilly, small and slender
like.  Hard as diamonds, soft as moonlight.  Warm as sunlight,
cold as frost in the stars.  Proud and far-off as a
snow-mountain, and as merry as any lass   I ever saw with daisies
in her hair in springtime."

--J.  R.  R.  Tolkien

"By the pricking of my thumbs, something wicked this way comes."

--William Shakespeare



> - Original Message -
>From: shaun everiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: Gamers Discussion list Date sent: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 16:20:54 -0500 (CDT)
>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Idea for a Project

>Well if we pulled all the history articles from audyssey we would
have quite a load of things already pluss the inteviews.
>Pluss the online sources to other things if just linked to.
>I suppose we could have something that would be part of audyssey
or part of audyssey.org, I mean lets face it all that exists up
there is just email lists.
>No home page I have seen just has email lists.
>Maybe some sort of wiki or just the actual book.
>Hmm.
>At 03:29 a.m.  10/03/2008, you wrote:
>>Dear List,

>>This is only an idea, but I'd really like input on this as it
>>might end up involving the whole community's efforts.  I am
>>thinking how cool it would be if the community began an online
>>"book" that would basically span the history of accessible games.
>>It would mostly be a compilation effort (probably from Audyssey),
>>and would include history, theory, profiles of significant
>>developers, and reviews of big games.  People could obviously
>>write stuff for it that would be included.  I even thought of a
>>title.  "The Sound of the Screen: The Past, Present, and Future
>>of Accessible Gaming," penned by the Audyssey Community.  What do
>>you guys think of this? Maybe something we could all work on over
>>the summer?

>>Kelby

>>Doomed Dragon

>>"Tidings of death have many wings."

>>--J.  R.  R.  Tolkien

>>"For Venus smiles not in a house of tears."

>>--William Shakespeare

>>"I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow
>>for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory.  I love only
>>that which they defend: the city of the Men of Númenor."

>>--J.  R.  R.  Tolkien

>>Beautiful she is, sir! Lovely! Sometimes like a great tree in
>>flower, sometimes like a white daffadowndilly, small and slender
>>like.  Hard as diamonds, soft as moonlight.  Warm as sunlight,
>>cold as frost in the stars.  Proud and far-off as a
>>snow-mountain, and as merry as any lass   I ever saw with daisies
>>in her hair in springtime."

>>--J.  R.  R.  Tolkien

>>"By the pricking of my thumbs, something wicked this way comes."

>>--William Shakespeare




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Re: [Audyssey] An Idea for a Project

2008-03-09 Thread kelby carlson
possibly, but I was really thinking more of a book (possibly 
online and maybe available for free.)

Kelby

Doomed Dragon

"Tidings of death have many wings."

--J.  R.  R.  Tolkien

"For Venus smiles not in a house of tears."

--William Shakespeare

"I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow 
for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory.  I love only 
that which they defend: the city of the Men of Númenor."

--J.  R.  R.  Tolkien

Beautiful she is, sir! Lovely! Sometimes like a great tree in 
flower, sometimes like a white daffadowndilly, small and slender 
like.  Hard as diamonds, soft as moonlight.  Warm as sunlight, 
cold as frost in the stars.  Proud and far-off as a 
snow-mountain, and as merry as any lass   I ever saw with daisies 
in her hair in springtime."

--J.  R.  R.  Tolkien

"By the pricking of my thumbs, something wicked this way comes."

--William Shakespeare



> - Original Message -
>From: shaun everiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: Gamers Discussion list Date sent: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 16:20:54 -0500 (CDT)
>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] An Idea for a Project

>Well if we pulled all the history articles from audyssey we would 
have quite a load of things already pluss the inteviews.
>Pluss the online sources to other things if just linked to.
>I suppose we could have something that would be part of audyssey 
or part of audyssey.org, I mean lets face it all that exists up 
there is just email lists.
>No home page I have seen just has email lists.
>Maybe some sort of wiki or just the actual book.
>Hmm.
>At 03:29 a.m.  10/03/2008, you wrote:
>>Dear List,

>>This is only an idea, but I'd really like input on this as it
>>might end up involving the whole community's efforts.  I am
>>thinking how cool it would be if the community began an online
>>"book" that would basically span the history of accessible games.
>>It would mostly be a compilation effort (probably from Audyssey),
>>and would include history, theory, profiles of significant
>>developers, and reviews of big games.  People could obviously
>>write stuff for it that would be included.  I even thought of a
>>title.  "The Sound of the Screen: The Past, Present, and Future
>>of Accessible Gaming," penned by the Audyssey Community.  What do
>>you guys think of this? Maybe something we could all work on over
>>the summer?

>>Kelby

>>Doomed Dragon

>>"Tidings of death have many wings."

>>--J.  R.  R.  Tolkien

>>"For Venus smiles not in a house of tears."

>>--William Shakespeare

>>"I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow
>>for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory.  I love only
>>that which they defend: the city of the Men of Númenor."

>>--J.  R.  R.  Tolkien

>>Beautiful she is, sir! Lovely! Sometimes like a great tree in
>>flower, sometimes like a white daffadowndilly, small and slender
>>like.  Hard as diamonds, soft as moonlight.  Warm as sunlight,
>>cold as frost in the stars.  Proud and far-off as a
>>snow-mountain, and as merry as any lass   I ever saw with daisies
>>in her hair in springtime."

>>--J.  R.  R.  Tolkien

>>"By the pricking of my thumbs, something wicked this way comes."

>>--William Shakespeare




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Re: [Audyssey] An Idea for a Project

2008-03-09 Thread shaun everiss
Well if we pulled all the history articles from audyssey we would have quite a 
load of things already pluss the inteviews.
Pluss the online sources to other things if just linked to.
I suppose we could have something that would be part of audyssey or part of 
audyssey.org, I mean lets face it all that exists up there is just email lists.
No home page I have seen just has email lists.
Maybe some sort of wiki or just the actual book.
Hmm.
At 03:29 a.m. 10/03/2008, you wrote:
>Dear List,
>
>This is only an idea, but I'd really like input on this as it 
>might end up involving the whole community's efforts.  I am 
>thinking how cool it would be if the community began an online 
>"book" that would basically span the history of accessible games.  
>It would mostly be a compilation effort (probably from Audyssey), 
>and would include history, theory, profiles of significant 
>developers, and reviews of big games.  People could obviously 
>write stuff for it that would be included.  I even thought of a 
>title.  "The Sound of the Screen: The Past, Present, and Future 
>of Accessible Gaming," penned by the Audyssey Community.  What do 
>you guys think of this? Maybe something we could all work on over 
>the summer?
>
>Kelby
>
>Doomed Dragon
>
>"Tidings of death have many wings."
>
>--J.  R.  R.  Tolkien
>
>"For Venus smiles not in a house of tears."
>
>--William Shakespeare
>
>"I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow 
>for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory.  I love only 
>that which they defend: the city of the Men of Númenor."
>
>--J.  R.  R.  Tolkien
>
>Beautiful she is, sir! Lovely! Sometimes like a great tree in 
>flower, sometimes like a white daffadowndilly, small and slender 
>like.  Hard as diamonds, soft as moonlight.  Warm as sunlight, 
>cold as frost in the stars.  Proud and far-off as a 
>snow-mountain, and as merry as any lass   I ever saw with daisies 
>in her hair in springtime."
>
>--J.  R.  R.  Tolkien
>
>"By the pricking of my thumbs, something wicked this way comes."
>
>--William Shakespeare
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Audyssey] An Idea for a Project

2008-03-09 Thread Charles Rivard
Good idea, and a very good source of info would be the former editor of 
Audyssey magazine.  HTH

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Jesus Christ, and the American Soldier.

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From: "kelby carlson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 7:29 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] An Idea for a Project


Dear List,

This is only an idea, but I'd really like input on this as it
might end up involving the whole community's efforts.  I am
thinking how cool it would be if the community began an online
"book" that would basically span the history of accessible games.
It would mostly be a compilation effort (probably from Audyssey),
and would include history, theory, profiles of significant
developers, and reviews of big games.  People could obviously
write stuff for it that would be included.  I even thought of a
title.  "The Sound of the Screen: The Past, Present, and Future
of Accessible Gaming," penned by the Audyssey Community.  What do
you guys think of this? Maybe something we could all work on over
the summer?

Kelby

Doomed Dragon

"Tidings of death have many wings."

--J.  R.  R.  Tolkien

"For Venus smiles not in a house of tears."

--William Shakespeare

"I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow
for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory.  I love only
that which they defend: the city of the Men of Númenor."

--J.  R.  R.  Tolkien

Beautiful she is, sir! Lovely! Sometimes like a great tree in
flower, sometimes like a white daffadowndilly, small and slender
like.  Hard as diamonds, soft as moonlight.  Warm as sunlight,
cold as frost in the stars.  Proud and far-off as a
snow-mountain, and as merry as any lass   I ever saw with daisies
in her hair in springtime."

--J.  R.  R.  Tolkien

"By the pricking of my thumbs, something wicked this way comes."

--William Shakespeare




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[Audyssey] An Idea for a Project

2008-03-09 Thread kelby carlson
Dear List,

This is only an idea, but I'd really like input on this as it 
might end up involving the whole community's efforts.  I am 
thinking how cool it would be if the community began an online 
"book" that would basically span the history of accessible games.  
It would mostly be a compilation effort (probably from Audyssey), 
and would include history, theory, profiles of significant 
developers, and reviews of big games.  People could obviously 
write stuff for it that would be included.  I even thought of a 
title.  "The Sound of the Screen: The Past, Present, and Future 
of Accessible Gaming," penned by the Audyssey Community.  What do 
you guys think of this? Maybe something we could all work on over 
the summer?

Kelby

Doomed Dragon

"Tidings of death have many wings."

--J.  R.  R.  Tolkien

"For Venus smiles not in a house of tears."

--William Shakespeare

"I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow 
for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory.  I love only 
that which they defend: the city of the Men of Númenor."

--J.  R.  R.  Tolkien

Beautiful she is, sir! Lovely! Sometimes like a great tree in 
flower, sometimes like a white daffadowndilly, small and slender 
like.  Hard as diamonds, soft as moonlight.  Warm as sunlight, 
cold as frost in the stars.  Proud and far-off as a 
snow-mountain, and as merry as any lass   I ever saw with daisies 
in her hair in springtime."

--J.  R.  R.  Tolkien

"By the pricking of my thumbs, something wicked this way comes."

--William Shakespeare




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