Re: [gentoo-dev] fltk version 1.1 is the one to go for

2010-03-25 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 03/25/2010 11:01 PM, li...@gabriel-striewe.de wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I wanted to report that cinepaint (which as of today is not in
> portage) compiles fine on my gentoo box which has been emerge-synced
> only yesterday. It uses however not the fltk-2.0 which is emerged by
> default but the version fltk-1.1.10. 
> 
> On the fltk website they say however that actually 1.1 is the stable
> version, whereas fltk-2.0 is an experimental version which is not as
> much maintained as 1.1. By the way, 1.3 is the development version.
> 
> In case anybody would like to take care of this, I won't be able to do
> so during the next few weeks.
> 
> Regards, 
> 
> Gabriel
> 
> P.S.: I actually only tested the latest cvs version. I will test the
> latest stable tarball and then see whether cinepaint is fully
> functional, and will report back any problems I might encounter.
> 
> 

http://bugs.gentoo.org/278375 is for cinepaint, not the mailinglist, but
thanks anyway.

- samuli



[gentoo-dev] fltk version 1.1 is the one to go for

2010-03-25 Thread linux
Hello,

I wanted to report that cinepaint (which as of today is not in
portage) compiles fine on my gentoo box which has been emerge-synced
only yesterday. It uses however not the fltk-2.0 which is emerged by
default but the version fltk-1.1.10. 

On the fltk website they say however that actually 1.1 is the stable
version, whereas fltk-2.0 is an experimental version which is not as
much maintained as 1.1. By the way, 1.3 is the development version.

In case anybody would like to take care of this, I won't be able to do
so during the next few weeks.

Regards, 

Gabriel

P.S.: I actually only tested the latest cvs version. I will test the
latest stable tarball and then see whether cinepaint is fully
functional, and will report back any problems I might encounter.




[gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs

2010-03-25 Thread Michal Januszewski
Hi,

I have a bunch of packages that I no longer use and have little to no
motivation to maintain. I will be replacing myself with
maintainer-needed in their metadata.xml in a few days.  If you want to
take them, feel free to edit metadata.xml directly -- no need to ask
for permission :)

> app-accessibility/powiedz
> app-i18n/man-pages-pl
> app-text/clara
> net-analyzer/chaosreader
> net-analyzer/gspoof
> net-im/ekg
> net-im/gnugadu
> net-im/tleenx2
> net-libs/libtlen

These are all low maintenance packages with no open bugs, the
exception being ekg, for which there is an open request for a live
ebuild (bug 300017).

Thanks,
-- 
Michal Januszewski
http://people.gentoo.org/spock



Re: [gentoo-dev] Python 3.1: Stabilization and news item

2010-03-25 Thread Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2010-03-25 19:34:24 Roy Bamford napisał(a):
> On 2010.03.24 21:12, William Hubbs wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 09:36:52PM +0100, Ben de Groot wrote:
> > > On 24 March 2010 21:25, William Hubbs  wrote:
> > > > If we make it clear in the news item that python-3 cannot be used
> > as the
> > > > default python, so if users do not want it they should mask it, 
> > we
> > have
> > > > done our job imho.  In other words, this is just a matter of
> > informing
> > > > users.
> > > 
> > > We agree that this is the minimum that should be done. But our
> > > Python lead stubbornly refuses to honor this reasonable request.
> >  
> >  On the other hand, I can see his point as well.  The news item makes
> > it
> >  very clear that python-3 cannot be the default python and that
> > python-2
> >  needs to be installed.
> > 
> > It could be argued that he is just assuming that users are 
> > intelligent
> > enough to figure out  that they need to mask python-3 if they
> > do not want it on their systems.
> > 
> > Basically this is a case of "how much hand-holding do we want to do"?
> > 
> > William
> > 
> > 
> 
> The case where Python-3 cannot be used as the default Python is 
> transitory (it may be a long time).

Gentoo Python Project will soon start supporting setting Python 3 as main
active version of Python. Currently about 57% of our packages from dev-python
category are prepared.

-- 
Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Python 3.1: Stabilization and news item

2010-03-25 Thread Roy Bamford
On 2010.03.24 21:12, William Hubbs wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 09:36:52PM +0100, Ben de Groot wrote:
> > On 24 March 2010 21:25, William Hubbs  wrote:
> > > If we make it clear in the news item that python-3 cannot be used
> as the
> > > default python, so if users do not want it they should mask it, 
> we
> have
> > > done our job imho.  In other words, this is just a matter of
> informing
> > > users.
> > 
> > We agree that this is the minimum that should be done. But our
> > Python lead stubbornly refuses to honor this reasonable request.
>  
>  On the other hand, I can see his point as well.  The news item makes
> it
>  very clear that python-3 cannot be the default python and that
> python-2
>  needs to be installed.
> 
> It could be argued that he is just assuming that users are 
> intelligent
> enough to figure out  that they need to mask python-3 if they
> do not want it on their systems.
> 
> Basically this is a case of "how much hand-holding do we want to do"?
> 
> William
> 
> 

The case where Python-3 cannot be used as the default Python is 
transitory (it may be a long time). Should we advise users of stable to 
mask it, we will get a lot of pleas for help when Python-3 is required 
because many users will have forgotten all about package.mask

In my view, its better to avoid these future unmasking issues as stable 
users tend to be very wary of unmasking things and let them have 
Python-3 unless they are already comfortable with the contents of /etc/
portage ... in which case they are not using stable anyway. 
 
-- 
Regards,

Roy Bamford
(Neddyseagoon) a member of
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: MinGW for windows - creating dlls

2010-03-25 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 25 March 2010 13:53:29 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> On 03/25/2010 07:43 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > On Thursday 25 March 2010 12:57:21 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> >> On 03/17/2010 03:38 PM, Mansour Al Akeel wrote:
> >>> I am not sure if this is the best list to ask, but I will ask here
> >>> since it's related to development and cross compilation.
> >>> 
> >>> I have setup a 32 bit chroot environment to be able to cross develop
> >>> for windows. I followed this guide:
> >>> 
> >>> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/embedded/cross-development.xml
> >> 
> >> You should be better off using this instead:
> >> 
> >> http://www.nongnu.org/mingw-cross-env
> > 
> > mingw + dlls + etc... works just fine under crossdev/Gentoo
> 
> It's just a bit difficult to work with.  It needs a lot of effort to set
> everything up.

it'll stay that way unless someone improves things.  it works for my needs, so 
i have no vested interest here.

> 64-bit Windows apps also easy to build.

and it's trivial with crossdev too.  i build 64bit windows JTAG/USB apps.

> Btw, does anyone intent to put an ebuild of mingw-cross-env in Portage? :P

i only spend time on crossdev.  anything else is a waste.
-mike


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[gentoo-dev] Re: MinGW for windows - creating dlls

2010-03-25 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

On 03/25/2010 07:43 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote:

On Thursday 25 March 2010 12:57:21 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:

On 03/17/2010 03:38 PM, Mansour Al Akeel wrote:

I am not sure if this is the best list to ask, but I will ask here since
it's related to development and cross compilation.

I have setup a 32 bit chroot environment to be able to cross develop for
windows. I followed this guide:

http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/embedded/cross-development.xml


You should be better off using this instead:

http://www.nongnu.org/mingw-cross-env


mingw + dlls + etc... works just fine under crossdev/Gentoo
-mike


It's just a bit difficult to work with.  It needs a lot of effort to set 
everything up.  I recommend mingw-cross-env because it simply works out 
of the box and you can even compile stuff like Qt and build Windows Qt 
applications without any effort.  64-bit Windows apps also easy to build.


So all things considered, it's the better solution.  crossdev of course 
has other virtues and is universal.  It's really just the MS Windows 
special case that makes mingw-cross-env worth looking at, since it's 
specialized for just this, while crossdev is a generic solution.


Btw, does anyone intent to put an ebuild of mingw-cross-env in Portage? :P




Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: MinGW for windows - creating dlls

2010-03-25 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 25 March 2010 12:57:21 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> On 03/17/2010 03:38 PM, Mansour Al Akeel wrote:
> > I am not sure if this is the best list to ask, but I will ask here since
> > it's related to development and cross compilation.
> > 
> > I have setup a 32 bit chroot environment to be able to cross develop for
> > windows. I followed this guide:
> > 
> > http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/embedded/cross-development.xml
> 
> You should be better off using this instead:
> 
> http://www.nongnu.org/mingw-cross-env

mingw + dlls + etc... works just fine under crossdev/Gentoo
-mike


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[gentoo-dev] Re: MinGW for windows - creating dlls

2010-03-25 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

On 03/17/2010 03:38 PM, Mansour Al Akeel wrote:

Hello all,
I am not sure if this is the best list to ask, but I will ask here since
it's related to development and cross compilation.

I have setup a 32 bit chroot environment to be able to cross develop for
windows. I followed this guide:

http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/embedded/cross-development.xml


You should be better off using this instead:

http://www.nongnu.org/mingw-cross-env




Re: [gentoo-dev] Python 3.1: Stabilization and news item

2010-03-25 Thread Richard Freeman

On 03/24/2010 11:47 PM, Joshua Saddler wrote:

Even then, it'll likely get
installed first, as users will probably learn about p.masking it only
*after* they install it.


I don't have strong feelings on whether having v3 installed by default 
is a big problem, but the last bit here probably should be addressed.


The current news item only shows up for people with python 3.1 already 
installed.  Would it make sense to have it show up for anybody with any 
version of python installed?  Otherwise it is news after-the-fact.


Rich