Re: [gentoo-user] recommendation sought for external disk

2014-01-02 Thread Helmut Jarausch

On 01/01/2014 11:07:22 PM, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
My home desktop has had a seagate external 750GB drive ST3750640cbrk  
for

a number of years and the disk is starting to fail.  The system gets
only modest usage.  It is powered on about 1/2 the time and the disk
often goes significant periods without activity so it spins down.

I was considering what seagate calls an expansion hard drive.  They
are USB 3, but I will be using only USB 2.


If you have a free expansion slot I'd install a (very cheap) USB 3  
adapter.

There is a tremendous difference in speed compared to USB 2.

Data transfer to my (quite recent) external USB 3 drives is about 130  
MB/s

(measured by iotop) which is faster than for my built in SATA 3 drives.

Helmut





Re: [gentoo-user] recommendation sought for external disk

2014-01-02 Thread gottlieb
On Thu, Jan 02 2014, Helmut Jarausch wrote:

 On 01/01/2014 11:07:22 PM, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
 My home desktop has had a seagate external 750GB drive ST3750640cbrk  
 for
 a number of years and the disk is starting to fail.  The system gets
 only modest usage.  It is powered on about 1/2 the time and the disk
 often goes significant periods without activity so it spins down.
 
 I was considering what seagate calls an expansion hard drive.  They
 are USB 3, but I will be using only USB 2.

 If you have a free expansion slot I'd install a (very cheap) USB 3  
 adapter.
 There is a tremendous difference in speed compared to USB 2.

 Data transfer to my (quite recent) external USB 3 drives is about 130  
 MB/s
 (measured by iotop) which is faster than for my built in SATA 3 drives.

 Helmut

Thanks for the advice (and numbers).  I do have a slot and may follow
your suggestion.  My only reluctance is that the disk gets such light
usage that I don't notice its slowdown compared to my internal faster
disk.  So I have pause if opening the case is justified.

But again, thanks for your helpful msg.
allan



[gentoo-user] recommendation sought for external disk

2014-01-01 Thread gottlieb
My home desktop has had a seagate external 750GB drive ST3750640cbrk for
a number of years and the disk is starting to fail.  The system gets
only modest usage.  It is powered on about 1/2 the time and the disk
often goes significant periods without activity so it spins down.

I was considering what seagate calls an expansion hard drive.  They
are USB 3, but I will be using only USB 2.  The desktop is gentoo-only
and I don't need any backup software from seagate.

The models are STBVx000100 for x=1,2,3,4 TB.

I understand the price capacity trade-off, but wonder if anyone has any
experience with these drives.

Thanks in advance,
allan



Re: [gentoo-user] recommendation sought for external disk

2014-01-01 Thread Daniel Frey
On 01/01/2014 02:07 PM, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
 I was considering what seagate calls an expansion hard drive.  They
 are USB 3, but I will be using only USB 2.  The desktop is gentoo-only
 and I don't need any backup software from seagate.
 
 The models are STBVx000100 for x=1,2,3,4 TB.
 
 I understand the price capacity trade-off, but wonder if anyone has any
 experience with these drives.
 
 

Hi Allan,

I am currently using 11 of these drives (1TB model; STBV1000100)
connected via USB doing daily/weekly backups of infrastructure at work.
They're specifically used on mostly Windows servers via WSB.

They're written to quite often and have been on 24x7 since last January.
I did have a problem with one drive a month in but it was replaced and
have had no issues since.

Keep in mind these have no on/off switch and are literally an expansiond
drive, meant to be on all the time.

I've performed test restores to a VM and no issues. Performance is OK
even on USB2.

I have no complaints on these particular models (other than the lack of
a power switch), although I really should have purchased the 2TB models.
Oh well.

Dan



Re: [gentoo-user] recommendation sought for external disk

2014-01-01 Thread gottlieb
On Wed, Jan 01 2014, Daniel Frey wrote:

 On 01/01/2014 02:07 PM, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
 I was considering what seagate calls an expansion hard drive.  They
 are USB 3, but I will be using only USB 2.  The desktop is gentoo-only
 and I don't need any backup software from seagate.
 
 The models are STBVx000100 for x=1,2,3,4 TB.
 
 I understand the price capacity trade-off, but wonder if anyone has any
 experience with these drives.

 Hi Allan,

 I am currently using 11 of these drives (1TB model; STBV1000100)
 connected via USB doing daily/weekly backups of infrastructure at work.
 They're specifically used on mostly Windows servers via WSB.

 They're written to quite often and have been on 24x7 since last January.
 I did have a problem with one drive a month in but it was replaced and
 have had no issues since.

 Keep in mind these have no on/off switch and are literally an expansiond
 drive, meant to be on all the time.

 I've performed test restores to a VM and no issues. Performance is OK
 even on USB2.

 I have no complaints on these particular models (other than the lack of
 a power switch), although I really should have purchased the 2TB models.
 Oh well.

 Dan

Thank you dan.  I didn't realize there was no on-off switch.  But I
assume it (or the driver/controller) will spin it down after prolonged
idleness.

Also from seagate are back plus drives.  The documentation I found on
the seagate site was scanty, but I am guessing they are the same as the
expansion plus some windows/mac software that I won't use so I was
planing on saving the $10.  I wonder if they have power switches.

Here are the prices seagate lists for some stores (cheapest shown).

 Backup
  Expansion   Plus

1TB 8090
2TB100   110
3TB120   130
4TB170   180

I am leaning toward the 2TB.

Again thanks for the information.

allan