Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP can induce De Quervain's disease
On Friday 07 July 2006 07:46, Raymon Van Wanrooij wrote: Yes it would, any program requiring precision control with the mouse can cause it cause you are really cramped controlling it then. A better solution is to use the right tool for the job, like using a tablet (from wacom or something) for painting an d photo retouching. Raymon On 7/6/06, Joey Cagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry to hear about this. However, would the same thing not happen if you were using Photoshop or Paint Shop Pro? Joey On Fri, 07 Jul 2006 11:13:41 +0800, Hector Noriega [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, This might be a common experience (or a well-known fact) among GIMP users. I just want to say that I just recovered from De Quervain's disease after an intensive week using GIMP. I'm not familiar with the new versions of this software, but mine requires keeping both my thumb and index finger pressed against the mouse while painting and retouching pictures. I did this for 4-5 days, 3-4 non-interrupted hours a day. I ended up with a strong pain in my wrist due to the inflammed tendons at the base of my thumb (De Quervain's disease). My right hand was practically inoperational for 2 1/2 months. A corticosteroid injection and a constant routine of ice and medication saved me from a wrist surgery. I could not believe a mouse could induce such damage to my hand while using GIMP. H. Noriega ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user Isn't there a possibility to remap the buttons on the mouse to the keyboard? That would relieve the stress on the mouse hand (if you learn to relax the wrist and arm while you use it) -- /Rikard - email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] web : http://www.rikjoh.com mob:: +46 (0)763 19 76 25 Public PGP fingerprint 15 28 DF 78 67 98 B2 16 1F D3 FD C5 59 D4 B6 78 46 1C EE 56 pgplpqEfb9g6r.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP can induce De Quervain's disease
On Friday 07 July 2006 12:13 am, Hector Noriega wrote: Hello, This might be a common experience (or a well-known fact) among GIMP users. I just want to say that I just recovered from De Quervain's disease after an intensive week using GIMP. I'm not familiar with the new versions of this software, but mine requires keeping both my thumb and index finger pressed against the mouse while painting and retouching pictures. I did this for 4-5 days, 3-4 non-interrupted hours a day. I ended up with a strong pain in my wrist due to the inflammed tendons at the base of my thumb (De Quervain's disease). My right hand was practically inoperational for 2 1/2 months. A corticosteroid injection and a constant routine of ice and medication saved me from a wrist surgery. I could not believe a mouse could induce such damage to my hand while using GIMP. H. Noriega Hi, as already replied, all known painting software require the mouse button to be pressed while painting. However very few users actually go painting 4-5 hours uninterrupted - of course, if that is a routine task, the first thing is to get an appropriate mouse that will be more anatomical. That should minimize things. The motive I am writing however is another one: Mr. Noriega, can you think of a better way of handling painting with the input devices found in most computers? (i.e. keyboard and mouse - maybe mic). The GIMP is comunity based, and you can help us build a better software Even one that gets ahead the commercial counterparts in some respects. What I ask of you is the following: use your experience and comunity discussion to get to a nice proposal of how the interface could be improved so that such an usage could be more pleasant. Then attach what you get to to a feature request to the gimp (this can be done at http://bugzilla.gimp.org) The GIMP is written and maintained by volunteers, so there is no guarantee that whatever you suggest will be veer implemented - but most likely, someone will be interested enough to take it ahead. Regards, JS -- ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP can induce De Quervain's disease
Joao S. O. Bueno Calligaris wrote: On Friday 07 July 2006 12:13 am, Hector Noriega wrote: Hello, This might be a common experience (or a well-known fact) among GIMP users. I just want to say that I just recovered from De Quervain's disease after an intensive week using GIMP. I'm not familiar with the new versions of this software, but mine requires keeping both my thumb and index finger pressed against the mouse while painting and retouching pictures. I did this for 4-5 days, 3-4 non-interrupted hours a day. I ended up with a strong pain in my wrist due to the inflammed tendons at the base of my thumb (De Quervain's disease). My right hand was practically inoperational for 2 1/2 months. A corticosteroid injection and a constant routine of ice and medication saved me from a wrist surgery. I could not believe a mouse could induce such damage to my hand while using GIMP. H. Noriega Hi, as already replied, all known painting software require the mouse button to be pressed while painting. However very few users actually go painting 4-5 hours uninterrupted - of course, if that is a routine task, the first thing is to get an appropriate mouse that will be more anatomical. That should minimize things. The motive I am writing however is another one: Mr. Noriega, can you think of a better way of handling painting with the input devices found in most computers? (i.e. keyboard and mouse - maybe mic). The GIMP is comunity based, and you can help us build a better software Even one that gets ahead the commercial counterparts in some respects. What I ask of you is the following: use your experience and comunity discussion to get to a nice proposal of how the interface could be improved so that such an usage could be more pleasant. Then attach what you get to to a feature request to the gimp (this can be done at http://bugzilla.gimp.org) The GIMP is written and maintained by volunteers, so there is no guarantee that whatever you suggest will be veer implemented - but most likely, someone will be interested enough to take it ahead. Regards, JS -- And make breaks once in a while. Exercise your wrists and eyes during breaks. Walk a bit. Practice yoga. GIMP as every other software is just a tool. And it can not be held responsible for wrong behaviour. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] GIMP can induce De Quervain's disease
Hello, This might be a common experience (or a well-known fact) among GIMP users. I just want to say that I just recovered from De Quervain's disease after an intensive week using GIMP. I'm not familiar with the new versions of this software, but mine requires keeping both my thumb and index finger pressed against the mouse while painting and retouching pictures. I did this for 4-5 days, 3-4 non-interrupted hours a day. I ended up with a strong pain in my wrist due to the inflammed tendons at the base of my thumb (De Quervain's disease). My right hand was practically inoperational for 2 1/2 months. A corticosteroid injection and a constant routine of ice and medication saved me from a wrist surgery. I could not believe a mouse could induce such damage to my hand while using GIMP. H. Noriega ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP can induce De Quervain's disease
Sorry to hear about this. However, would the same thing not happen if you were using Photoshop or Paint Shop Pro? Joey On Fri, 07 Jul 2006 11:13:41 +0800, Hector Noriega [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, This might be a common experience (or a well-known fact) among GIMP users. I just want to say that I just recovered from De Quervain's disease after an intensive week using GIMP. I'm not familiar with the new versions of this software, but mine requires keeping both my thumb and index finger pressed against the mouse while painting and retouching pictures. I did this for 4-5 days, 3-4 non-interrupted hours a day. I ended up with a strong pain in my wrist due to the inflammed tendons at the base of my thumb (De Quervain's disease). My right hand was practically inoperational for 2 1/2 months. A corticosteroid injection and a constant routine of ice and medication saved me from a wrist surgery. I could not believe a mouse could induce such damage to my hand while using GIMP. H. Noriega ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP can induce De Quervain's disease
Yes it would, any program requiring precision control with the mouse cancause it cause you are really cramped controlling it then. A better solutionis to use the right tool for the job, like using a tablet (from wacom or something) for painting an d photo retouching.RaymonOn 7/6/06, Joey Cagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry to hear about this. However, would the same thing not happen if you were using Photoshop or Paint Shop Pro? Joey On Fri, 07 Jul 2006 11:13:41 +0800, Hector Noriega [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, This might be a common experience (or a well-known fact) among GIMP users. I just want to say that I just recovered from De Quervain's disease after an intensive week using GIMP. I'm not familiar with the new versions of this software, but mine requires keeping both my thumb and index finger pressed against the mouse while painting and retouching pictures. I did this for 4-5 days, 3-4 non-interrupted hours a day. I ended up with a strong pain in my wrist due to the inflammed tendons at the base of my thumb (De Quervain's disease). My right hand was practically inoperational for 2 1/2 months. A corticosteroid injection and a constant routine of ice and medication saved me from a wrist surgery. I could not believe a mouse could induce such damage to my hand while using GIMP. H. Noriega ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
