Re: [RFC 3/3] reset: Change the default behavior to use "--merge" during a merge

2014-03-10 Thread Andrew Wong
On 02/26/14 15:53, Junio C Hamano wrote:
>  - start warning against "reset" (no mode specifier) and "reset --mixed"
>when the index is unmerged *and* MERGE_HEAD exists; and then
Why do we also want to check if index is unmerged? This situation can
happen regardless of having conflicts or not (--no-commit, aborting the
editor, etc.). As long as the user is in the middle of a merge
(MERGE_HEAD exists), shouldn't they be warned if they used "git reset"?
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Re: [RFC 3/3] reset: Change the default behavior to use "--merge" during a merge

2014-02-26 Thread Andrew Wong
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 3:57 PM, Matthieu Moy
 wrote:
> If you were to design "git reset"'s interface from scratch, your
> proposal would make sense. But we're talking about a change, and you
> can't expect that users never use the current behavior. At the very
> least, there should be a warning telling the user that the behavior
> changed, and I'm really afraid that the warning goes along the lines of
> "I've thought you'd prefer me to discard your unsaved changes, please
> rewrite them if you actually didn't want me to".
>
>>> I'm not really convinced that this is such a good change, and if we go
>>> this way, there should be a transition to let users stop using
>>> argumentless "git reset" to reset the index during a merge.
>>
>> Yeah, this breaks compatibility, but like I said, during a merge, I don't
>> see a good reason to do "git reset --mixed",
>
> The point with backward compatibility is not to know whether users have
> a good reason to, but whether you can guarantee that no one ever does
> it.

Yeah, I do see what you mean. But the problem of using "git reset
--mixed" during a merge is problematic too. It leaves you with a mix
of merge changes and local changes. As Junio pointed out, new files
will also be left in the worktree. So users would have to clean all
that up manually. Perhaps what Junio suggested is a better approach.
Slowly phase out this behavior by printing out warnings. Then
eventually erroring out in this situation, and then finally switch to
a new behavior, whatever that may be.

Andrew
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Re: [RFC 3/3] reset: Change the default behavior to use "--merge" during a merge

2014-02-26 Thread Andrew Wong
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Jonathan Nieder  wrote:
> I really don't like the idea of making "git reset" modal, though.  I'd
> rather that reset --mixed print some advice about how to recover from
> the mistake, which would also have the advantage of allowing scripts
> that for whatever reason used "git reset" in this situation to
> continue to work.

In the case where user had unstaged changes before running "git
merge", there's no way to recover from the mistake. Their worktree is
left with a mix of both the merge changes and their original unstaged
changes. As Junio pointed out, new files will also be left in the
worktree, so the next attempt to "git merge" will fail until the files
are removed. There's no way to recover from it except to have the user
manually clean out the merge changes and new files manually. That's
why "git reset --mixed" doesn't seem sensible during a merge.

That said, I do feel it might not be a good idea to have the default
behavior of "git reset" change depending on the context. What Junio
suggested might be a better approach. To have "git reset" error out
instead may be a better alternative, since that doesn't silently do
something else and break compatibility.

Andrew
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Re: [RFC 3/3] reset: Change the default behavior to use "--merge" during a merge

2014-02-26 Thread Matthieu Moy
Andrew Wong  writes:

> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 1:21 PM, Matthieu Moy
>  wrote:
>> But this breaks backward compatibility.
>>
>> I sometimes run "git reset" during a merge to only reset the index and
>> then examine the changes introduced by the merge. With your changes,
>> someone doing so would abort the merge and discard the merge resolution.
>> I very rarely do this, but even rarely, I wouldn't like Git to start
>> droping data silently for me ;-).
>
> I don't think it's actually dropping data though, because your changes just
> come from "git merge". So you can also do the merge again.

But you can't repeat your merge conflicts resolution.

> To examine the changes, you're saying you'd do "git reset && git diff". But
> without doing "git reset", couldn't you do "git diff HEAD" to get the
> diff?

I could. The point is, sometimes I don't.

If you were to design "git reset"'s interface from scratch, your
proposal would make sense. But we're talking about a change, and you
can't expect that users never use the current behavior. At the very
least, there should be a warning telling the user that the behavior
changed, and I'm really afraid that the warning goes along the lines of
"I've thought you'd prefer me to discard your unsaved changes, please
rewrite them if you actually didn't want me to".

>> I'm not really convinced that this is such a good change, and if we go
>> this way, there should be a transition to let users stop using
>> argumentless "git reset" to reset the index during a merge.
>
> Yeah, this breaks compatibility, but like I said, during a merge, I don't
> see a good reason to do "git reset --mixed",

The point with backward compatibility is not to know whether users have
a good reason to, but whether you can guarantee that no one ever does
it.

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Re: [RFC 3/3] reset: Change the default behavior to use "--merge" during a merge

2014-02-26 Thread Junio C Hamano
Matthieu Moy  writes:

> Andrew Wong  writes:
>
>> If the user wants to do "git reset" during a merge, the user most likely
>> wants to do a "git reset --merge". This is especially true during a
>> merge conflict and the user had local changes, because "git reset" would
>> leave the merged changes mixed in with the local changes. This makes
>> "git reset" a little more user-friendly during a merge.
>
> But this breaks backward compatibility.
>
> I sometimes run "git reset" during a merge to only reset the index and
> then examine the changes introduced by the merge.

H, wouldn't it a better way to do this to run "git diff HEAD"
without any resetting of the index, though?  Having said that...

> With your changes,
> someone doing so would abort the merge and discard the merge resolution.
>
> I very rarely do this, but even rarely, I wouldn't like Git to start
> droping data silently for me ;-).

...this indeed may be a concern that deserves a bit more thought.

> I'm not really convinced that this is such a good change, and if we go
> this way, there should be a transition to let users stop using
> argumentless "git reset" to reset the index during a merge.

If the only reason somebody might want to "reset --mixed" is to make
the next "git diff" behave as if it were "git diff HEAD", I would be
willing to say that we should:

 - start warning against "reset" (no mode specifier) and "reset --mixed"
   when the index is unmerged *and* MERGE_HEAD exists; and then

 - after a few releases start erroring out when such a "reset" is
   given; and then

 - use this patch to intelligently choose the default mode.

Another downside of "reset --mixed" during a conflicted merge (or
other mergy operations, e.g. "am -3") is that new files are left in
the working tree, making the next attempt to redo the mergy
operation immediately fail until you remove them, so in practice,
the only mode I'd use with a conflicted index (be it from a
conflicted merge or any other mergy operation) is "reset --hard".

So forbidding "reset --mixed" when the index is unmerged (even when
there is no MERGE_HEAD) may be a good idea in the long run.
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Re: [RFC 3/3] reset: Change the default behavior to use "--merge" during a merge

2014-02-26 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Andrew Wong wrote:

> Yeah, this breaks compatibility, but like I said, during a merge, I don't
> see a good reason to do "git reset --mixed", and not "git reset --merge".

Yeah, in principle if it had a different behavior, then plain "git
reset" could be useful during a merge, but as is, I tend to use the
form with a path ("git reset -- .") to avoid losing MERGE_HEAD.

I really don't like the idea of making "git reset" modal, though.  I'd
rather that reset --mixed print some advice about how to recover from
the mistake, which would also have the advantage of allowing scripts
that for whatever reason used "git reset" in this situation to
continue to work.

Thanks,
Jonathan
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Re: [RFC 3/3] reset: Change the default behavior to use "--merge" during a merge

2014-02-26 Thread Andrew Wong
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 1:21 PM, Matthieu Moy
 wrote:
> But this breaks backward compatibility.
>
> I sometimes run "git reset" during a merge to only reset the index and
> then examine the changes introduced by the merge. With your changes,
> someone doing so would abort the merge and discard the merge resolution.
> I very rarely do this, but even rarely, I wouldn't like Git to start
> droping data silently for me ;-).

I don't think it's actually dropping data though, because your changes just
come from "git merge". So you can also do the merge again.

To examine the changes, you're saying you'd do "git reset && git diff". But
without doing "git reset", couldn't you do "git diff HEAD" to get the diff?
This also has the advantage of keeping git in the merging state, so you can
decide to continue/abort the merge later on.

> I'm not really convinced that this is such a good change, and if we go
> this way, there should be a transition to let users stop using
> argumentless "git reset" to reset the index during a merge.

Yeah, this breaks compatibility, but like I said, during a merge, I don't
see a good reason to do "git reset --mixed", and not "git reset --merge".
Especially when there are local changes, "--mixed" would actually cause
more headaches than "git reset --merge", because you would lose the
distinction between merge changes and unstaged changes.

Andrew
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Re: [RFC 3/3] reset: Change the default behavior to use "--merge" during a merge

2014-02-26 Thread Matthieu Moy
Andrew Wong  writes:

> If the user wants to do "git reset" during a merge, the user most likely
> wants to do a "git reset --merge". This is especially true during a
> merge conflict and the user had local changes, because "git reset" would
> leave the merged changes mixed in with the local changes. This makes
> "git reset" a little more user-friendly during a merge.

But this breaks backward compatibility.

I sometimes run "git reset" during a merge to only reset the index and
then examine the changes introduced by the merge. With your changes,
someone doing so would abort the merge and discard the merge resolution.
I very rarely do this, but even rarely, I wouldn't like Git to start
droping data silently for me ;-).

I'm not really convinced that this is such a good change, and if we go
this way, there should be a transition to let users stop using
argumentless "git reset" to reset the index during a merge.

The other 2 patches look good to me.

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[RFC 3/3] reset: Change the default behavior to use "--merge" during a merge

2014-02-26 Thread Andrew Wong
If the user wants to do "git reset" during a merge, the user most likely
wants to do a "git reset --merge". This is especially true during a
merge conflict and the user had local changes, because "git reset" would
leave the merged changes mixed in with the local changes. This makes
"git reset" a little more user-friendly during a merge.

Signed-off-by: Andrew Wong 
---
 builtin/reset.c | 7 ++-
 1 file changed, 6 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/builtin/reset.c b/builtin/reset.c
index 6004803..740263d 100644
--- a/builtin/reset.c
+++ b/builtin/reset.c
@@ -318,7 +318,12 @@ int cmd_reset(int argc, const char **argv, const char 
*prefix)
_(reset_type_names[reset_type]));
}
if (reset_type == NONE)
-   reset_type = MIXED; /* by default */
+   {
+   if(is_merge())
+   reset_type = MERGE;
+   else
+   reset_type = MIXED;
+   }
 
if (reset_type != SOFT && reset_type != MIXED)
setup_work_tree();
-- 
1.9.0.6.g16e5f9a

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