Re: Now what's going on and how do I fix it?

2002-11-21 Thread Chris
I think I know what I did...   I copied my old /etc directory over the
new one thereby
screwing up the mount tab and vfstab and any other files related to the
mount table

doh!!!

Ben Boulanger wrote:

 On Wed, 2002-11-20 at 21:56, Chris wrote:
  Activating swap partitions:  swapon: /dev/hda7: Invalid argument

 Sounds like /dev/hda7 isn't set as type 82?  Can you get an output of
 what fdisk says (fdisk /dev/hda, p)?

 Ben

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Re: log-reader

2002-11-21 Thread Michael O'Donnell


tail -f yourLogFileHere

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RE: Contivity VPN woes

2002-11-21 Thread Kenneth E. Lussier
On Wed, 2002-11-20 at 20:58, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   For those who are wondering: In IPsec automatic keying with IKE (Internet
 Key Exchange), each peer has to have an identity.  With X.509 certificates,
 the ID is almost always the DN (Distinguished Name) of the certificate of
 that peer.  When using Pre-Shared Keys for authentication, though, the most
 popular choice of ID is the peer's own IP address.  Obviously, NAT is going
 to mess with that.
 
   I've never tried it, but I imagine PSKs would still work with NAT if you
 used aggressive mode and (e.g.) an FQDN ID.  Anyone know?

I believe that (again, in theory), aggressive mode used in conjunction
with oppertunistic encryption fixes the PSK through NAT problems.
However, I have to say that I have done IPSec through NAT using PSK's
and it works fine. IKE isn't the real trouble spot, usually. The real
trouble is AH. If you're using ESP, then things should be fine
(depending on the NAT implimentation). If you're using AH, you're dead
in the water. In the AH spec, it clearly states that it cannot be NAT'd
due to the nature of header munging.
 
  there could be some other issues involving ike-through-nat as well ...
 
   Oh, there are.  This is all in theory.  Everything works in theory.  In
 practice, NAT tends to screw up everything.  :-)  Just today, I was
 trouble-shooting an IPsec-through-NAT configuration that appears to be
 causing the FreeS/WAN node at the other end to think the NAT'ed node is
 another network, instead of a single node.  I haven't had a chance to figure
 that one out yet.

Someone forgot to comment out the right/leftsubnet maybe? 

C-Ya,
Kenny
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Re: Subject: RE: log-reader

2002-11-21 Thread Michael O'Donnell


I wrote:
 prettyMuchEverybody wrote:
  tail -f logfile
 
 Sheesh.  I hereby certify us all as Linux Professionals.

Erik wrote:
Fine by me.  It makes me look less stupid for not knowing. ;)
That would at least make me a Linux User, as opposed to a Linux Luser.


Since I'm not sure how you took that, let me say that
no ill-will should be read into my msg because it
certainly wasn't written with any, and I didn't mean
to imply that you're a Luser.  I was just amused at
how many of us piled on to answer that little query...

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RE: Subject: RE: log-reader

2002-11-21 Thread Price, Erik


 -Original Message-
 From: Michael O'Donnell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 10:45 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Subject: RE: log-reader 
 
 
 
 
 I wrote:
  prettyMuchEverybody wrote:
   tail -f logfile
  
  Sheesh.  I hereby certify us all as Linux Professionals.
 
 Erik wrote:
 Fine by me.  It makes me look less stupid for not knowing. ;)
 That would at least make me a Linux User, as opposed to a 
 Linux Luser.
 
 
 Since I'm not sure how you took that, let me say that
 no ill-will should be read into my msg because it
 certainly wasn't written with any, and I didn't mean
 to imply that you're a Luser.  I was just amused at
 how many of us piled on to answer that little query...

No, none was taken!  I assure you.  Hence the smiley,
which was consciously placed.

No implication was assumed, either, it was just self-beratement.


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Re: Subject: RE: log-reader

2002-11-21 Thread Michael O'Donnell


FYI, another way to monitor changing events
is via the watch command, though it's used
in slightly different circumstances than the
OP asked about; it's prepared to repeatedly
execute some command and keep the screen
updated with the results.  Example:

   watch ifconfig

...will show the changing Tx/Rx counts
associated w/your Enets.

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Re: Subject: RE: log-reader

2002-11-21 Thread Kevin D. Clark

As an alternate solution, if the original poster is an Emacs user, he
could have used live-find-file.

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Re: Subject: RE: log-reader

2002-11-21 Thread Bayard R. Coolidge
I was amused by this whole discussion, since the trick of
using 'tail -f filename' is fairly universal amongst the
various UNIX implementations. I used it for years on Tru64
UNIX and its antecedants while monitoring my testing (I did
TruCluster software QC for several years before my retirement).

It is a very, simple, straightforward way to do it. I submit
that firing up an entire editor (e.g. emacs, as suggested by
Kevin Clark) is an unworthy consumption of valuable system
resources, however fun it might be.

Be that as it may, it then becomes an interesting problem of
what to do about the information as it rolls in. In my case,
I do a 'tail -f /var/log/messages' as part of my ppp startup,
and I can monitor real time any attempts to hit my system.
But, realistically, that particular window is buried below
(er, behind) my Netscape Navigator browser window, my Netscape
e-mail window, and a couple of others, sometimes for hours,
so I frequently don't notice when someone overseas decides to
telnet or ftp my dial-up node.

So, I'd love to have an audible beep and/or (*gasp*) a pop-up
window telling me when I'm being, er, groped over the network.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Bayard
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RE: Contivity VPN woes

2002-11-21 Thread bscott
On 21 Nov 2002, at 8:30am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 However, I have to say that I have done IPSec through NAT using PSK's and
 it works fine.  IKE isn't the real trouble spot, usually.

  Except that I have noticed that IKE using an ID type of IP_ADDR, PSKs, and
aggressive mode is a lot more popular then an objective analysis of the
protocols would warrant.  I suspect the reason is that particular
combination is probably the easiest to implement (although I'm just
guessing).  In any event, the ID type of ID_ADDR doesn't get along with NAT,
either.

 The real trouble is AH.

  Yes, AH and NAT are fundamentally incompatible.

  Just today, I was trouble-shooting an IPsec-through-NAT configuration
 that appears to be causing the FreeS/WAN node at the other end to think
 the NAT'ed node is another network, instead of a single node.
 
 Someone forgot to comment out the right/leftsubnet maybe?

  The other peer isn't running FreeS/WAN, it's running SafeNet's SoftRemote
for Windows.  The configuration checks out, and works just fine if I remove
the NAT box.  This is a dynamic, road warrior config -- FreeS/WAN gateway
on one end, %any for the other end (no subnet).  The error I'm seeing is
that FreeS/WAN is thinking the connection is a gateway, with the public IP
address of the router being the gateway address, and the private IP address
of the Windows box being behind it -- which is, in a sense, correct, I
guess.  But since there is no subnet configured in FreeS/WAN, Pluto kicks
out the IKE attempt as not matching any configured connection.  I suspect I
need to tweak FreeS/WAN's config slightly, or maybe add a patch.  Like I
said, I haven't had a chance to really look into it yet.

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Re: Subject: RE: log-reader

2002-11-21 Thread Bayard R. Coolidge
OK great - 

Both Tom and Ben Boulanger nominated 'swatch', which goes to
show that you can teach an old dog like me new tricks.

The capability of triggering a sound event is fairly routine
nowadays, both under Linux as well as under certain MS products.
Back when I started with DEC in '78, I was told that a certain
large, well-known customer had a bunch of PDP-11/70's for
some critical functions. The PDP-11 architecture had a very
nice (IMNSHO) interrupt architecture, so that various events
could be properly dispatched to their handler routines. There
was even one for when the interrupt stacks themselves were
corrupted. (Anyone remember the yellow-zone/red-zone stuff?).
Well, this customer, well-known for its technology and its
geek humor, set up their systems so that a trap to the
system crash vector would close a relay contact and set off
an audible alarm. In their case, it was a tape recording of
a human death scream. Rather unnerving for service personnel
on their first service calls to this particular facility,
but at least everyone knew when the system died.

Thanks,

Bayard
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Re: [gnhlug-announce] My apologies...

2002-11-21 Thread Michael O'Donnell


Paul's misconduct is indeed a serious matter;
his resignation is hereby accepted.

Since punishment must fit the crime, we must
devise something truly heinous; some fate so
awful that we can barely contemplate it.

Done.  Paul is hereby sentenced to...


   REINSTATEMENT!


BwaaAAHH!  HAHAHAHAHAHA


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Tech Brew in Manchester tonight

2002-11-21 Thread Travis Roy
Thought some of you might be interested:

http://www.nh.com/ftp/techbrew/
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Re: [gnhlug-announce] My apologies...

2002-11-21 Thread numberwhun
I fully agree with the punishment.  Everyone makes mistakes, but the punishment
must fit the crime.  But I believe Paul should know, that if he doesn't accept
his punishment, we will hunt him down and force him to use Windows 2.0 until he
does.  :)


 
 
 Paul's misconduct is indeed a serious matter;
 his resignation is hereby accepted.
 
 Since punishment must fit the crime, we must
 devise something truly heinous; some fate so
 awful that we can barely contemplate it.
 
 Done.  Paul is hereby sentenced to...
 
 
REINSTATEMENT!
 
 
 BwaaAAHH!  HAHAHAHAHAHA
 
 
  .
 
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RE: [gnhlug-announce] My apologies...

2002-11-21 Thread Tilly, Lawrence
Actually, wasn't 2.0 the last stable version of Windows?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 1:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [gnhlug-announce] My apologies... 


I fully agree with the punishment.  Everyone makes mistakes, but the punishment must 
fit the crime.  But I believe Paul should know, that if he doesn't accept his 
punishment, we will hunt him down and force him to use Windows 2.0 until he does.  :)


 
 
 Paul's misconduct is indeed a serious matter;
 his resignation is hereby accepted.
 
 Since punishment must fit the crime, we must
 devise something truly heinous; some fate so
 awful that we can barely contemplate it.
 
 Done.  Paul is hereby sentenced to...
 
 
REINSTATEMENT!
 
 
 BwaaAAHH!  HAHAHAHAHAHA
 
 
  .
 
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Re: log-reader

2002-11-21 Thread bscott
On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, at 9:59am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I seem to recall that there is a way to interactively read logfiles
 (as they are being generated) from the command line, but I completely
 forget what utility that is.  A quick reminder, anyone?

  tail -f filename

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Re: log-reader

2002-11-21 Thread Kenneth E. Lussier
tail -f /var/log/whatever.

C-Ya,
Kenny

On Thu, 2002-11-21 at 09:59, Price, Erik wrote:
 Folks,
 
 I seem to recall that there is a way to interactively read logfiles
 (as they are being generated) from the command line, but I completely
 forget what utility that is.  A quick reminder, anyone?
 
 (Right now I'm just lessing the files after the expected error is
 generated.)
 
 (on Gentoo Linux)
 
 Erik
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RE: log-reader

2002-11-21 Thread Tilly, Lawrence
Try this:  tail -f someapp.log

-Original Message-
From: Price, Erik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 9:59 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: log-reader


Folks,

I seem to recall that there is a way to interactively read logfiles (as they are being 
generated) from the command line, but I completely forget what utility that is.  A 
quick reminder, anyone?

(Right now I'm just lessing the files after the expected error is
generated.)

(on Gentoo Linux)

Erik
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Re: Subject: RE: log-reader

2002-11-21 Thread Tom Buskey

Bayard R. Coolidge said:
system crash vector would close a relay contact and set off
an audible alarm. In their case, it was a tape recording of
a human death scream. Rather unnerving for service personnel
on their first service calls to this particular facility,
but at least everyone knew when the system died.

I used the sound of breaking glass for a crash but this is much cooler.
Tom goes looking for a human death scream sound

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Re: Subject: RE: log-reader

2002-11-21 Thread Kevin D. Clark

Bayard R. Coolidge [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I submit
 that firing up an entire editor (e.g. emacs, as suggested by
 Kevin Clark) is an unworthy consumption of valuable system
 resources, however fun it might be.

I never suggested firing up an editor to do this.  I merely suggested
that if the user was already an Emacs user, and they wanted to do this
under Emacs, they could use live-find-file.

The Emacs process that I'm typing this in has been up since the last
time my computer experienced a power failure.  Most Emacs users start
up Emacs and leave it up for the entire session, however long that
might be.

So I disagree with your judgement of unworthy.

--kevin
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Should a scanned image under Linux and Windows look similiar?

2002-11-21 Thread Larry Cook
I am a naive novice when it comes to scanners and images, so maybe this is a 
ridiculous expectation, but I would think that a scanned image under Linux 
would look fairly close to one scanned under Windows, especially when run on 
the exact same hardware.  Both XSane and the Windows software have default 
scan values that are almost identical.  So why aren't the images almost identical?

Here are the two images:

http://www.totalnetnh.net/~lamb/scan_windows.jpg
http://www.totalnetnh.net/~lamb/scan_linux.jpg

The Windows scan is extremely close to the original photo.

I have purposely omitted h/w and s/w specifics because I want to know if I 
have an unreasonable expectation.

Thanks,
Larry

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Re: XFSoterica

2002-11-21 Thread pll

In a message dated: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 12:14:13 EST
Michael O'Donnell said:

Anybody here ever messed around with the more esoteric
parts of XFS?  I'm particularly interested in (what
they call) the Real-time section.

Contact Rob Lembree.  He used to work for SGI and was head of their 
Linux efforts for some time.  I believe (but may be wrong) that he's 
familiar with XFS development in some way.
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Re: Subject: RE: log-reader

2002-11-21 Thread Michael O'Donnell


 Thanks for the clarification, as I generally invoke an editor
 ad hoc for editing specific documents, and then dissolve it when
 I'm done.  If you (and other emacs users) fire it up as part of
 your initial window invocations and leave it up during your entire
 working session then, yes, I can clearly see that there's no
 cost associated with using it to check the logs.  Conversely,
 starting up a separate invocation of emacs just to watch the logs
 seemed to me to be a bit expensive.


Doesn't Emacs have a client-server mode (or version)
wherein one heavyweight Emacs process remains
resident in memory and then a bunch of lightweight
Emacs processes can connect to it?

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RE: Subject: RE: log-reader

2002-11-21 Thread Price, Erik


 -Original Message-
 From: Kevin D. Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 1:58 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Subject: RE: log-reader
 
 
 The Emacs process that I'm typing this in has been up since the last
 time my computer experienced a power failure.  Most Emacs users start
 up Emacs and leave it up for the entire session, however long that
 might be.

Lo, and it is indeed even inscribed unto the Emacs tutorial that
said behavior is recommendation-worthy.

That's actually the first time I really used Ctrl-z, was when learning
Emacs ... I knew about the command but felt like it was bad form to
suspend processes.  When I saw it recommended in yon Emacs tutorial,
I asked about it and found that it's not like putting a video tape on
pause ... 

(this was years ago, I was much younger and even more naive, really)



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Re: Subject: RE: log-reader

2002-11-21 Thread pll

In a message dated: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 14:22:49 EST
Michael O'Donnell said:

Doesn't Emacs have a client-server mode (or version)
wherein one heavyweight Emacs process remains
resident in memory and then a bunch of lightweight
Emacs processes can connect to it?

Yes, gnuserver and gnuclient.  If you invoke gnuserv-start when Emacs 
is fired up, you can then do things like set your EDITOR/VISUAL 
variables to 'gnuclient' and anything that invokes your editor with 
send that to the gnuserv process.

You can also, from the cmd line use 'gnuclient foo.txt' which does 
the same thing.
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OpenLDAP

2002-11-21 Thread Kenneth E. Lussier
Does anyone know of a good GUI or web-based browser for OpenLDAP? I'd
like to be able to create/modify objects, etc. faster, and without as
much typign ;-)

TIA,
Kenny

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Re: OpenLDAP

2002-11-21 Thread Thomas Charron
Quoting Kenneth E. Lussier [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Does anyone know of a good GUI or web-based browser for OpenLDAP? I'd
 like to be able to create/modify objects, etc. faster, and without as
 much typign ;-)

http://freshmeat.net/projects/awebdap/?topic_id=28%2C68%2C243%2C129

I tended to like that one..  Searching freshmeat for LDAP Web reveals many, 
though..  Take yer pick..  ;-)

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Re: Should a scanned image under Linux and Windows look similiar?

2002-11-21 Thread Travis Roy
 http://www.totalnetnh.net/~lamb/scan_windows.jpg
 http://www.totalnetnh.net/~lamb/scan_linux.jpg

Well, the look the same except the linux one has NO red in it. it's like
it got filtered out some how.

Is it a 3 pass color scanner?
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Re: OpenLDAP

2002-11-21 Thread pll

In a message dated: 21 Nov 2002 14:35:27 EST
Kenneth E. Lussier said:

Does anyone know of a good GUI or web-based browser for OpenLDAP? I'd
like to be able to create/modify objects, etc. faster, and without as
much typign ;-)

Read this months issue of LJ, the entire issue is devoted to LDAP.
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Re: [gnhlug-announce] My apologies...

2002-11-21 Thread Ben Boulanger
On Thu, 21 Nov 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I hereby resign as Chairman of MELBA in embarrassement (and boy do I 
 hope you'll accept this resignation :)

Is there anyone who thinks we should actually accept this?

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RE: [gnhlug-announce] My apologies...

2002-11-21 Thread Jim Cadorette
No he should not be allowed to resign as chairman without a vote from the
majority on the list.
Sorry Paul!

Jim
 

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Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 12:48 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [gnhlug-announce] My apologies...


On Thu, 21 Nov 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I hereby resign as Chairman of MELBA in embarrassement (and boy do I 
 hope you'll accept this resignation :)

Is there anyone who thinks we should actually accept this?

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RE: [gnhlug-announce] My apologies...

2002-11-21 Thread Vince McHugh
 
 I fully agree with the punishment.  Everyone makes
 mistakes, but the punishment must fit the crime. 
 But I believe Paul should know, that if he doesn't
 accept his punishment, we will hunt him down and
 force him to use Windows 2.0 until he does.  :)
 
  Our Constitution forbids the use of cruel and
unusual punishment. So Windows is definitely out :-)

  Hey, I am definitely interested in redoing the CUPS
 Scanning presentation in January. I had a chance to
do a practice run last night. I found out I had a few
typos [I hope I spelled typos right ;-)].



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.   Regards,   
  Vince McHugh
 Systems Support Manager
  NECS\Canon

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[Fwd: FREENIX Track submission deadline extended until Nov. 25(59596)]

2002-11-21 Thread Bruce Dawson
Here's another opportunity to advance the cause - if only by
preaching to the choir ;-)

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 Dear Colleague,
 
 The submission deadline for the FREENIX track at the USENIX Annual 
 Technical Conference has been extended until Monday, November 25.
 
 The 2003 FREENIX program committee would like to encourage you to 
 submit papers about projects which have a solid emphasis on 
 nurturing the open source/freely available software community and 
 talks which advance the state of the art of freely redistributable 
 software.
 
 Areas of interest include, but are not limited to:
 
 cross-platform source portability and binary compatibility; desktop
 metaphors; distributed and parallel systems; documentation; embedded
 systems; file system design; graphical user interface tools;
 highly available systems; highly scalable and clustered systems; how
 free software is being developed and managed today; interesting
 deployments of free software; large-scale system management; network
 design and implementation; nontechnical aspects of free software:
 business, legal, etc.; operating system design; print systems;
 Quality Assurance; security; software development tools; storage
 systems; system and user management tools; and technical aspects of
 commercial use of free software.
 
 Submissions are due by Monday, November 25.
 
 Submission guidelines are available on the USENIX web site: 
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 We look forward to receiving your submissions.
 
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Re: OpenLDAP

2002-11-21 Thread John Abreau
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Kenneth E. Lussier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Does anyone know of a good GUI or web-based browser for OpenLDAP? I'd
 like to be able to create/modify objects, etc. faster, and without as
 much typign ;-)

Yes and no. I poked around on freshmeat.net for something like that, after 
setting up LDAP on Monday by following the article in Linux Journal. 
GQ worked reasonably well; I could add all sorts of stuff the existing 
LDAP entries, but I couldn't see any way within GQ to add a completely
new entry. I ended up just writing a shell script that would create a 
dummy entry with a specified UID, which I could then edit with GQ.


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RE: [gnhlug-announce] My apologies...

2002-11-21 Thread bscott
On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, at 1:14pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Actually, wasn't 2.0 the last stable version of Windows?

  No, there hasn't been one of those yet.  ;-)

  Kudos to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for making me laugh my a** off.  Also, it gives me an
idea:  How about we make the punishment for resigning reinstatement?  I
think that would solve all these issues we have with people resigning
nicely.  ;-)

  (Seriously, Paul: Don't sweat it.  If that's the biggest mistake you make,
you're golden.)

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