[GNC] GNC 4.9 build with libicu library versions

[Mike Commissaris]

System:  Kernel: 5.15.0-3.1-liquorix-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64
   Distro: MX-21_ahs_x64 Wildflower October 10  2021
   base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye)
 CPU:  Topology: 8-Core model: AMD Ryzen 7 5700U with Radeon Graphics
 Other:
 gcc (Debian 10.2.1-6) 10.2.1
  cmake version 3.18.4
  make 4.3
  libicu-dev 67.1
  libicu67

I have been building GNC for many versions and have always had to degrade
libicu libraries to version 63.1 to prevent the "make failed" citing
installed version 67.1 conflict. I got this new laptop and imagine my
surprise when I was able to build version 4.8 (and subsequently 4.9) with
libicu 67.1 installed.

But when I tried to build 4.9 on our office desktop I got the libicu
version failure. The desktop has:
kernel 5.10.0
gcc Debian 8.3.0-6
cmake 3.13.4
make 4.2.1
I had to downgrade and lock to libicu63.1 for successful 4.9 build.

All other GNC dependencies require a "version or higher" situation.
So  my question is why are libicu and libicu-dev libraries not the same as
far as accepting the higher version? Can I upgrade something to allow
version 67?



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Mike
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[GNC] GnuCash Dark Theme Needed

[S S]

I apologize if my formatting is not appropriate to the list as I can't find 
anything about how to format posts to the list. My problem right now is that I 
downloaded GnuCash 4.9 and I can't read anything in the software as it is not 
honoring/inheriting/adopting Windows 10 High Contrast Dark theme settings 
properly. Even if I try to invert the colors manually, it is not displaying 
correctly and the text is upscaling so poorly it is illegible. For instance, in 
HomeBank, there's an Edit > Preferences option with subset "Interface" that has 
the options to "override" GTK font to increase the text size and there is a 
clear option for "Dark theme." These two options make that software accessible 
to me. Is there anything like this in GnuCash? Are there any other legally 
blind or low vision users of GnuCash who might be able to help with how they 
achieved readable text to use the software?

Thanks Very Much,
Arc
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Re: [GNC] Tracking capital gains, commissions and the Trial Balance report

[Daniel Torstenson]

Yes, I should be clear that I don't really see a problem with GnuCash,
rather the "problem" is in understanding how to handle these things. I
wonder if maybe the wiki should mention it since I think anyone who is used
to tracking investments in personal finance software like Quicken or Money
or whatever, will be expecting to just enter commissions and capital gains
and can get confused when the Trial Balance report doesn't balance. In
fact, in those threads, it seemed some people thought the Trial Balance
report was wrong, or that GnuCash was broken because it wasn't doing what
they expected.

So right now, I have two "commissions" accounts: (1) Expenses:Commissions
(expense) and (2) Capital Gains:Commissions (income)

Using Chris' method, I would have (1) Expenses:Commissions (expense) and
(2) Expenses:Commissions:Less Applied to Basis (expense)

It looks like you're suggesting (1) Assets:XYZ:Commissions, but I'm not
sure what the other account to balance it would be. A subaccount of capital
gains, or a subaccount of commissions?

Thanks for helping a new guy.



On Tue, Dec 21, 2021 at 7:46 AM Michael or Penny Novack <
stepbystepf...@comcast.net> wrote:

> On 12/20/2021 9:34 PM, Daniel Torstenson wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've been looking into tracking my capital gains and commissions for a
> > brokerage account, and I'm running into an issue that I see others have
> run
> > into. Namely, I'd like to account for my commissions and also keep track
> of
> > my capital gains, as my brokerage reports them (and as the IRS expects
> > them).
> >
> >   I found a few threads on this topic, but didn't really see a good
> > resolution.
> >
> Your actual problem is not in TRACKING how much spent on commissions but
> in assuming that you need have it grouped with expenses as well as being
> part of the basis of the investment << as needed for capital gains tax
> purposes >>
>
> And yes, this not a specific gnucash "problem" but a double entry
> problem as you are allowed only one CoA hierarchy.
>
> Something to keep in mind that you perhaps haven't realized. One of the
> things you can usually change with "report options" is the title of a
> report. So let's say that you have a number of investments and each has
> an associated "commissions" sub account. That means you can show your
> commissions cost by running a report that will allow you to select JUST
> these accounts and you can make what shows as the title of the report
> "Total Cost of Commissions" or whatever you like.
>
> No, not under "Expense" because it isn't an expense (legally, for
> reporting purposes) but part of the cost related to acquiring the asset.
>
> Michael D Novack
>
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Re: [GNC] Tracking capital gains, commissions and the Trial Balance report

[Daniel Torstenson]

Ahh, interesting. I like that idea. I was not aware of contra accounts.
Thanks.

On Mon, Dec 20, 2021 at 8:00 PM Chris Grinton  wrote:

> You could consider using a contra expense account to reverse the effect of
> the expense and apply it to the cost base of the asset purchase? Then you
> can still report on the Expense:Commissions account (*without* the
> including contra account in the report) to show how much you're paying in
> commissions, while also having the asset's cost base accurately include the
> cost of the commission.
>
> For example:
>
> Assets:Investments:Brokerage Account:Stock:XYZ1  share * $100 =
> $100 (DR)
> Assets:Investments:Brokerage Account:Stock:XYZ
>  $   5 (DR)
> Expenses:Commissions
>  $   5 (DR)
> Expenses:Commissions:less applied to asset cost base
>$5 (CR)
> Assets:Investments:Brokerage Account
>  $105 (CR)
>
> On Tue, 21 Dec 2021 at 13:35, Daniel Torstenson 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've been looking into tracking my capital gains and commissions for a
>> brokerage account, and I'm running into an issue that I see others have
>> run
>> into. Namely, I'd like to account for my commissions and also keep track
>> of
>> my capital gains, as my brokerage reports them (and as the IRS expects
>> them).
>>
>>  I found a few threads on this topic, but didn't really see a good
>> resolution.
>>
>> https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2016-April/065058.html
>> https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2017-February/069173.html
>> https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=778455#c4
>>
>> The problem, as has been pointed out, is that in a double-entry accounting
>> system, you can only account for expenses once. Either you count
>> commissions as an expense, or you count them as a lowered capital gain. If
>> you do both, you're double counting and your book is out of balance.
>>
>> You can force GnuCash to do it by tweaking the following the instructions
>> for manual calculation of capital gains
>>
>>
>> https://lists.gnucash.org/docs/C/gnucash-guide/invest-sell1.html#invest-sell-man
>>
>> You simply enter the "net profit" instead of the "gross profit" for the
>> capital gains in that example. I gather some people do that, but it's
>> wrong, and when you run a Trial Balance report, you'll see the credits
>> don't equal the debits.
>>
>> In the bug report above, John Ralls suggests a solution that I didn't
>> completely understand. I have a method that's inspired by that comment
>> that
>> seems to work for me, but I'm not an accountant and I'm wondering what the
>> "standard" method is. In other words, what do the accountants at, say
>> Berkshire Hathaway or any other firm with a trading desk do?
>>
>> I attached a snapshot of the transactions for a fictitious XYZ stock. I
>> simply break up the "Capital Gains" into two subaccounts: "Capital
>> Gains:Net Capital Gains" and "Capital Gains:Commissions". When I do this,
>> the Trial Balance report checks out as desired.
>>
>> But it seems a little funny to me to have both a commissions expense
>> account and a commissions income account (Capital Gains:Commissions), so
>> I'm wondering if there's a more standard way of doing this.
>>
>> Thanks!
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Re: [GNC] Fwd: Reconciliation mystery - unreconciled transactions in a period that was reconciled.

[Rogier F. van Vlissingen]

In short, as long as I exit and reopen the application after each month's
reconciliation, I should have a complete set of backups and be able to go
back a month at a time.

Evidently, that did not occur to me, but the number of transactions is low,
so it should be easy to export as a csv and simply reimport. I can also
export and reimport the entire CofA, so that may be the cleanest route,
rather than having this fight.


On Tue, Dec 21, 2021 at 3:14 PM Rogier F. van Vlissingen 
wrote:

> thanks much...
>
> I will first check with my mint buddies to see if there is experience with
> upgrading Gnucash past the native version (3.8)... and yes, they are
> running behind, but I do not want to incur more support worries either,
> unless it seems a reasonable risk.
>
> As to your comments about the balances, it is even more screwy than you
> think.
> As of right now, when I go back to December in reconciliation, it shows me
> an opening balance that of $52.03 instead of what it was ($180.12) and the
> two mystery "n" txns are still showing unreconciled. When I do reconcile
> them, I end up with an ending balance of $187.37, and a reconciled balance
> of -107.37, with a difference of $295.34 which is ridiculous. So it looks
> worse every time I look.
>
> Seems to me the only way is to export and then re-import the raw data, and
> just redo the whole year. I cannot think of any other way, other than
> redoing it manually. I will first figure out if I want to do the upgrade.
> The Gnucash site recommends against it.
>
> Then when I redo this, I will simply make a backup every time I finish a
> month and keep them around until I close the year. This last time, I did
> the entire year in one session and had no backups.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 21, 2021 at 2:43 PM David H  wrote:
>
>> Rogier,
>>
>> I think you are placing too much emphasis on the opening balance
>> being off, forget that you know why it's off so just accept that and move
>> on.  It's the closing balance that is the important thing as long as that
>> agrees you are all good so I don't consider you are "rolling forward" an
>> error - isn't your reconcile ending balance supposed to be $52.03?  The
>> only way to view the correct opening balance would be to go back to a
>> GnuCash backup prior to your December reconciliation and start it all over.
>> If you want to try that check out
>> https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v4/C/gnucash-guide/basics-backup1.html for
>> details on backup and log files.
>>
>> Upgrading to 4.9 won't change this behaviour but at least it should give
>> you a warning before unreconciling a transaction assuming you haven't
>> turned off warnings - you can check this using the menu item Actions >>
>> Reset Warnings - click on it to display any warnings you have turned off.
>>
>> Cheers David H.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 21 Dec 2021 at 21:29, Rogier F. van Vlissingen <
>> vlisc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I follow you and in fact, I had tried that before.
>>>
>>> If I simply re-enter the Dec2020 reconciliation (you are right, I have
>>> not done Jan2021 yet, that was when I noticed the discrepancy), what
>>> happens is it shows with $187.37 for an opening balance, and the two
>>> offending "n" txns still showing up, but then when I mark them as
>>> reconciled, the reconciled ending balance shows $52.03, which means I am
>>> rolling the discrepancy of $135.34 forward. In short, this whole thing is
>>> screwy beyond my ability to understand.
>>>
>>> It now seems to me that the only way out may be to export the data,
>>> uninstall the old version and install version 4.9, and simply redo the
>>> entire year. In other words, if I were to upgrade my installed version to
>>> 4.9, I would most likely be rolling the mistake forward. Maybe I can
>>> actually try v4.9 first, and see what happens, and then I can still export
>>> the data and start the year over, simply redoing all the reconciliations.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 21, 2021 at 2:43 AM David H  wrote:
>>>
 No, don't change any dates, what I was thinking was that if you hadn't
 reconciled again yet (which seemed to me to be the case) you could just use
 the end of December date and ending balance and go through the
 reconciliation process again.  Those two txns should show up as
 unreconciled so you could check them off as being reconciled as at December
 2020.

 4.9 has just been released, 3.8 is old so likely did have the feature
 that caused txns to become unreconciled if you updated the txn description
 etc.

 Cheers David H.


 On Tue, 21 Dec 2021 at 13:32, Rogier F. van Vlissingen <
 vlisc...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Oh, the pic was just my sig, irrelevant.
>
> on Gnucash 3.8 Linux Mint 20.2 Cinnamon.
>
> What happened is a mystery to me. I was racing for the tax deadline,
> and all I did was enter a whole year pretty quickly and reconcile the
> accounts every month, When Dec was reconciled I shipped 

Re: [GNC] Dependency on AqBanking data (gnucash files referencing NUM in .aqbanking/settings6/accounts/$NUM)

[Fred Bone]

On 21 December 2021 at 10:48, Justin said:

> I hadn't received "[GNC]" stamped copy.  I just checked my subscription
> options, and I am supposed to be receiving a copy of mail sent to the
> list.  Odd.  I turned on ack emails for next time.

Why odd? You're using Gmail. This is expected behaviour.


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Re: [GNC] online banking gnucash 4.9

[Jean-David Beyer via gnucash-user]

On 12/21/21 11:10, Robert F. Crochelt wrote:

I am running Fedora 31.  I know this OS is getting old, but did not want
to upgrade for various reasons.  I upgraded to gnucash 4.9 using flatpak.  It
seems to run perfectly, but when I try to set up online banking, I click
on the button to "start aqbanking wizard" and nothing happens.  Output


I had so many problems with flatpak' being separate from the rest of 
Linux that I gave up on it. I no longer have anything from flatpak on my 
machine. When I had GnuCash from flatpak, I could not even get it to 
print on my printer. (I do not want a fix for that anymore.)


My advice is to get GnuCash from somewhere else.

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[GNC] online banking gnucash 4.9

[Robert F. Crochelt]

Good morning:
I am running Fedora 31.  I know this OS is getting old, but did not want
to upgrade for various reasons.  I upgraded to gnucash 4.9 using flatpak.  It
seems to run perfectly, but when I try to set up online banking, I click
on the button to "start aqbanking wizard" and nothing happens.  Output
from the console is:

* 22:59:14 ERROR  gnc_AB_BANKING_new: assertion
* 'AB_Banking_Init(api) == 0' failed
* 22:59:16 ERROR  aai_wizard_page_prepare:
* assertion 'info->api' failed
* 22:59:18 ERROR  aai_wizard_button_clicked_cb:
* assertion 'banking' failed

I suspect that I need to install the newest version of aqbanking via
flatpak as well, but I do not know how to do this.

I've not been using online banking with gnucash but would like to try.

It is a wonderful program, thank you for all your hard work on it.

Happy Solstice!
-- 

Bob Crochelt MD, PhD, FACS
(he/him/his)
Ukiah, CA

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Re: [GNC] Dependency on AqBanking data (gnucash files referencing NUM in .aqbanking/settings6/accounts/$NUM)

[Justin]

I hadn't received "[GNC]" stamped copy.  I just checked my subscription 
options, and I am supposed to be receiving a copy of mail sent to the 
list.  Odd.  I turned on ack emails for next time.


-Justin

On 12/21/21 2:37 AM, David H wrote:
If in doubt check the archives @ 
https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user 
. It came 
through fine - 
https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2021-December/098945.html 
. 
I guess nobody has any suggestions/ideas right now perhaps because the 
devs have been busy doing the latest release.


Cheers David H.

On Tue, 21 Dec 2021 at 15:53, Justin > wrote:


[Seems like mailing list ate my first message; resending]

I moved GnuCash from one machine to another, and found that I had
trouble recreating the online transaction downloads.

I was able to setup four accounts, but setting up the fifth
account led
to an odd situation/bug where CreditCard account's downloads would
attempt to post to CheckingAccount.  I went looking through the
.aqbanking directory, and found that in my old machine,
settings6/account/007 was pointing to CheckingAccount, but on
my new
machine, 007 was CreditCard.

Copying .aqbanking data from old machine to new machine fixed the
transaction download trouble.

 From a data point of view, it appears the gnucash file references
the
.aqbanking account-id.  Moving to a new machine might give different
.aqbanking data, and therefore, the account-id would reference the
wrong
account.

I tried to remove online association, then readding it, but even
though
the account association did show that "CreditCard acct 12345" was
referencing gnucash account "CreditCard", the download still would
try
to post (and did post) to CheckingAccount.

This does not seem like good behavior.

If this is news to anybody, or maybe in need of a bug report, I can
provide more details.

-Justin

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Re: [GNC] 4.9 on Ubuntu 20.04 not saving preferences

[Geert Janssens]

Hi Tim,

It's by luck (and some randomness in order of processing files) that this build 
works. The 
contents of the schemas directory has both the obsolete and the new schema 
files. To 
prevent this issue from happening again in the future, you should remove all 
files that start 
with "org.gnucash" but keep those that start with "org.gnucash.GnuCash".

You can move your source and build directories to a more convenient location if 
you like. You 
may have to rerun the build, but that's fine.

You can even still run "make uninstall" now in your 4.6 build directory 
followed by "make 
install" in the 4.9 build directory to formally sort this out.

Regards,

Geert Janssens

Op dinsdag 21 december 2021 14:07:20 CET schreef Tim Kallmer:
> David,
> You are right. I now know it was not related to switching from .bz2 to .gz
> formats.
> 
> I tried the same procedure on my laptop GC (also 4.6), using the .gz for
> 4.9 initially, and had the same "fresh-start" behavior and GC not saving my
> preferences or working file.
> 
> Once I reverted to 4.6 and then installed 4.9 again, it works.
> 
> Geert,
> By installing "over" my previous 4.6, I mean I go through the build
> procedure using the same /home//.local installation location. Both
> versions were built from the source files. My initial 4.6 build was using
> ninja. This 4.9 - 4.6 revert - 4.9 again process was with make. Would using
> ninja previously and then changing to make be the cause?
> 
> All of my versions have been the self-built GC. I was not switching from
> flatpak. I did not have any other versions remaining other than the 4.6 I
> had been using.
> 
> I have never ran 'uninstall' before installing a newer version, but I will
> try to remember to do that next time. That must have been my problem. My
> understanding is that I should keep the source and build folders for next
> time. Can I move these folders from their parent (the Downloads folder) to
> a more convenient place and have the uninstall work correctly?
> 
> The schemas folder contents is now as follows, with a working 4.9:
> 
> total 484K
> -rw-rw-r-- 1  66K Dec 20 19:22 gschemas.compiled
> -rw-r--r-- 1 105K Dec 20 19:51 org.gnucash.GnuCash.deprecated.gschema.xml
> -rw-r--r-- 1  12K Dec 20 19:51
> org.gnucash.GnuCash.dialogs.business.gschema.xml
> -rw-r--r-- 1 6.9K Dec 20 19:51
> org.gnucash.GnuCash.dialogs.checkprinting.gschema.xml
> -rw-r--r-- 1  777 Dec 20 19:51
> org.gnucash.GnuCash.dialogs.commodities.gschema.xml
> -rw-r--r-- 1 1.1K Dec 20 19:51
> org.gnucash.GnuCash.dialogs.export.csv.gschema.xml
> -rw-r--r-- 1  571 Dec 20 19:51
> org.gnucash.GnuCash.dialogs.flicker.gschema.xml
> -rw-r--r-- 1  15K Dec 20 19:51 org.gnucash.GnuCash.dialogs.gschema.xml
> -rw-r--r-- 1  872 Dec 20 19:51
> org.gnucash.GnuCash.dialogs.import.csv.gschema.xml
> -rw-r--r-- 1 6.5K Dec 20 19:51
> org.gnucash.GnuCash.dialogs.import.generic.gschema.xml
> -rw-r--r-- 1 4.3K Dec 20 19:51
> org.gnucash.GnuCash.dialogs.import.hbci.gschema.xml
> -rw-r--r-- 1  464 Dec 20 19:51
> org.gnucash.GnuCash.dialogs.import.ofx.gschema.xml
> -rw-r--r-- 1 2.5K Dec 20 19:51
> org.gnucash.GnuCash.dialogs.import.qif.gschema.xml
> -rw-r--r-- 1 2.0K Dec 20 19:51
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Re: [GNC] Tracking capital gains, commissions and the Trial Balance report

[Michael or Penny Novack]

On 12/20/2021 9:34 PM, Daniel Torstenson wrote:

Hi,

I've been looking into tracking my capital gains and commissions for a
brokerage account, and I'm running into an issue that I see others have run
into. Namely, I'd like to account for my commissions and also keep track of
my capital gains, as my brokerage reports them (and as the IRS expects
them).

  I found a few threads on this topic, but didn't really see a good
resolution.

Your actual problem is not in TRACKING how much spent on commissions but 
in assuming that you need have it grouped with expenses as well as being 
part of the basis of the investment << as needed for capital gains tax 
purposes >>


And yes, this not a specific gnucash "problem" but a double entry 
problem as you are allowed only one CoA hierarchy.


Something to keep in mind that you perhaps haven't realized. One of the 
things you can usually change with "report options" is the title of a 
report. So let's say that you have a number of investments and each has 
an associated "commissions" sub account. That means you can show your 
commissions cost by running a report that will allow you to select JUST 
these accounts and you can make what shows as the title of the report 
"Total Cost of Commissions" or whatever you like.


No, not under "Expense" because it isn't an expense (legally, for 
reporting purposes) but part of the cost related to acquiring the asset.


Michael D Novack


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Re: [GNC] 4.9 on Ubuntu 20.04 not saving preferences

[Tim Kallmer]

David,
You are right. I now know it was not related to switching from .bz2 to .gz
formats.

I tried the same procedure on my laptop GC (also 4.6), using the .gz for
4.9 initially, and had the same "fresh-start" behavior and GC not saving my
preferences or working file.

Once I reverted to 4.6 and then installed 4.9 again, it works.

Geert,
By installing "over" my previous 4.6, I mean I go through the build
procedure using the same /home//.local installation location. Both
versions were built from the source files. My initial 4.6 build was using
ninja. This 4.9 - 4.6 revert - 4.9 again process was with make. Would using
ninja previously and then changing to make be the cause?

All of my versions have been the self-built GC. I was not switching from
flatpak. I did not have any other versions remaining other than the 4.6 I
had been using.

I have never ran 'uninstall' before installing a newer version, but I will
try to remember to do that next time. That must have been my problem. My
understanding is that I should keep the source and build folders for next
time. Can I move these folders from their parent (the Downloads folder) to
a more convenient place and have the uninstall work correctly?

The schemas folder contents is now as follows, with a working 4.9:

total 484K
-rw-rw-r-- 1  66K Dec 20 19:22 gschemas.compiled
-rw-r--r-- 1 105K Dec 20 19:51 org.gnucash.GnuCash.deprecated.gschema.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1  12K Dec 20 19:51
org.gnucash.GnuCash.dialogs.business.gschema.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 6.9K Dec 20 19:51
org.gnucash.GnuCash.dialogs.checkprinting.gschema.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1  777 Dec 20 19:51
org.gnucash.GnuCash.dialogs.commodities.gschema.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 1.1K Dec 20 19:51
org.gnucash.GnuCash.dialogs.export.csv.gschema.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1  571 Dec 20 19:51
org.gnucash.GnuCash.dialogs.flicker.gschema.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1  15K Dec 20 19:51 org.gnucash.GnuCash.dialogs.gschema.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1  872 Dec 20 19:51
org.gnucash.GnuCash.dialogs.import.csv.gschema.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 6.5K Dec 20 19:51
org.gnucash.GnuCash.dialogs.import.generic.gschema.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 4.3K Dec 20 19:51
org.gnucash.GnuCash.dialogs.import.hbci.gschema.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1  464 Dec 20 19:51
org.gnucash.GnuCash.dialogs.import.ofx.gschema.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 2.5K Dec 20 19:51
org.gnucash.GnuCash.dialogs.import.qif.gschema.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 2.0K Dec 20 19:51
org.gnucash.GnuCash.dialogs.reconcile.gschema.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 4.1K Dec 20 19:51 org.gnucash.GnuCash.dialogs.sxs.gschema.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 1.1K Dec 20 19:51 org.gnucash.GnuCash.dialogs.totd.gschema.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1  465 Dec 20 19:51
org.gnucash.GnuCash.general.finance-quote.gschema.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1  30K Dec 20 19:51 org.gnucash.GnuCash.gschema.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 2.8K Dec 20 19:51 org.gnucash.GnuCash.history.gschema.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1  14K Dec 20 19:51 org.gnucash.GnuCash.warnings.gschema.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 4.0K Dec 20 19:51
org.gnucash.GnuCash.window.pages.account.tree.gschema.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1  674 Dec 20 19:51 org.gnucash.GnuCash.window.pages.gschema.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1  11K Dec 20 19:13 org.gnucash.dialogs.business.gschema.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 6.9K Dec 20 19:13 org.gnucash.dialogs.checkprinting.gschema.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1  761 Dec 20 19:13 org.gnucash.dialogs.commodities.gschema.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 1.1K Dec 20 19:13 org.gnucash.dialogs.export.csv.gschema.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1  555 Dec 20 19:13 org.gnucash.dialogs.flicker.gschema.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1  15K Dec 20 19:13 org.gnucash.dialogs.gschema.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1  856 Dec 20 19:13 org.gnucash.dialogs.import.csv.gschema.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 6.4K Dec 20 19:13
org.gnucash.dialogs.import.generic.gschema.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 4.3K Dec 20 19:13 org.gnucash.dialogs.import.hbci.gschema.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1  448 Dec 20 19:13 org.gnucash.dialogs.import.ofx.gschema.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 2.5K Dec 20 19:13 org.gnucash.dialogs.import.qif.gschema.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 1.9K Dec 20 19:13 org.gnucash.dialogs.reconcile.gschema.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 4.0K Dec 20 19:13 org.gnucash.dialogs.sxs.gschema.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 1.1K Dec 20 19:13 org.gnucash.dialogs.totd.gschema.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1  449 Dec 20 19:13 org.gnucash.general.finance-quote.gschema.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1  29K Dec 20 19:13 org.gnucash.gschema.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 2.8K Dec 20 19:13 org.gnucash.history.gschema.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1  13K Dec 20 19:13 org.gnucash.warnings.gschema.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 4.0K Dec 20 19:13
org.gnucash.window.pages.account.tree.gschema.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1  658 Dec 20 19:13 org.gnucash.window.pages.gschema.xml


Thanks David and Geert!
Tim



> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2021 12:25:03 +1000
> From: davidcousen...@gmail.com
> To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC]  ?Re: 4.9 on Ubuntu 20.04 not saving preferences
> Message-ID: <7a6a2901b83eedc78248ccdbab9ab03802f5aa59.ca...@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> Tim,
>
> Good to see its fixed although I don't really understand why. I downloaded
> and
> built from the .bz2 file without any problems and I extract it using the
> Archive
> Manager which AFAIK is the Ubuntu manager. It may have to do 

Re: [GNC] Reconciliation mystery - unreconciled transactions in a period that was reconciled.

[Rogier F. van Vlissingen]

Thanks for the feedback. This is obviously concerning, but a solution may
have been offered. I have been using an older version of gnucash (3.8)
because it is what my update manager in mint provides. I am now going to
switch to the latest version, and try to fix this.
It was only two months ago, just before the tax deadline, when I did the
entire year of 2020 in gnucash. I entered the data month by month, and when
the last reconciliation was done, I sent it to the tax preparer. The
problem is in my December bank account. I don't think I did anything wrong,
but, if I had so much as examined the reports before sending them in, I
would have noticed that the ending balance on the checking account was off
in the reports. As it was, I did not notice the discrepancy until I began
the reconciliation for January of 2021.
I think I may now redo the entire exercise in version 4.9, to see if that
fixes the problem. Stay tuned.




On Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 11:11 PM Richard Gaede via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Rogier and David, I have had a situation several times where I have
> completed reconciliations, and then months later in a new reconciliation
> transactions show up from several years before as unreconciled. I have
> no idea how this occurs.
>
> As my accounting has no business connotations, I fudge it and just tick
> them off on the basis they have been previously reconciled.
>
> Any thoughts anyone on what my problem might be, or whether it has any
> relevance to these ongoing discussions?
>
>
> On 20/12/2021 09:28, davidcousen...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Rogier,
> >
> > It would appear on the surface that somehow you did not reconcile the two
> > transactions which remained marked as "n" which means not cleared("c) or
> not
> > reconciled("y").  How ? Unfortunately without knowing exactly what you
> did
> > during the reconciliation process it will be hard for anyone to tell.
> Obvious
> > things are to check the dates on the two transactions to make sure they
> are in
> > the reconciliation period and check that any transactions after the end
> of the
> > reconciliation date are not marked with "y". A common error is entering
> the
> > wrong year when entering the transaction.  Any unreconciled transactions
> from
> > earlier periods should show up in the reconcilation window panes.
> >
> > That the balances add up with the two un reconciled transactions suggest
> opening
> > the reconciliation process again and seeing if the two unmarked
> transactions
> > appear in it.
> >
> > David Cousens
> >
> > On Sun, 2021-12-19 at 16:42 -0500, Rogier F. van Vlissingen wrote:
> >> A while ago, I set up a business in Gnucash after having some outrageous
> >> problems with QBO.
> >>
> >> Once I got going it all worked out OK, but it appears I may have made
> some
> >> mistakes in the end and I cannot comprehend how I might have done it or
> how
> >> to fix them.
> >>
> >> The primary tipoff was that I did all my reconciliations of three
> accounts
> >> and as it was, the bank account ended up with a $187.37 balance on
> >> 12/31/20, however the account register shows to transactions that are
> still
> >> showing "n" for unreconciled, and the balance at 12/31/20 shows $52.03
> and
> >> the two "n" transactions account for the difference, $135.34. But why do
> >> they show "n" and is the ending balance $52.03???
> >>
> >> I have not been able to figure out a way to fix this.
> >>
> >> Evidently, the result is a minor error in my final reports of 2020, and
> >> hence in my tax filing.
> >>
> >>
> >> <
> >>
> http://rogierfentenervanvlissingen.me?promo=email_sig_source=product_medium=email_sig_campaign=gmail_api_content=thumb
> >> Rogier Fentener van Vlissingen
> >>
> >> <
> >>
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Re: [GNC] Beginner Accounting Question

[davidcousens49]

Patrick,

Are you setting up accounts for the business or accounts for your personal
finance? I am assuming these are the business acounts.

If you purchase itmes for the business are you intending to refund the money to
your personal accounts or are you making a contribution to the capital of the
business?

If you are intending to refund yourself for purchases for the business then you 
would record that as a Liability in a subaccount suitably labelled (Loans To
Business (credit the liability account and debit an appropriate expense account
to record the purchase and when you pay yourself back credit the business bank
account and debit the Liability sub account). When the business has paid back
all money it owes you the Liability sub account balance should be 0.

If you are contributing to the business capital with the purchase you would
credit an Equity subaccount with a name like Owner's Contributions and debit the
appropriate expense account with a suitable annotation in the description/memo
field.

If the items are major purchases, i.e. capital items which are to be used by the
business over more than a single accounting period. You would record it as an
asset with the second entry to either the equity or liability account as before
and as appropriate. It may then be either depreciated or if it is consummable
recorded as an expense as you consume it. Your jurisdiction may hae tax rules
which may impact this decision. There is usually a threshold value below which
items are normally expensed directly on purchase for example. 

The usual disclaimer applies that this should not be considered accounting
advice and if you are unsure of the rules which may apply in your jurisdiction
you should seek professioanl advice from an accountant with experience and
accreditation in your jurisdiction.

Hope this helps you in getting going with GnuCash

David Cousens




On Tue, 2021-12-21 at 09:50 +, Patrick Skelton wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm steadily 'getting' the double-entry idea. In my accounts (which I have
> just begun experimenting with), I have an account that is called 'Personal
> Money Used'. This is of type Cash. I use this account when I use my own
> personal account (i.e. nothing to do with the business) to buy something
> for the business.
> 
> I have two questions about this account:
> 
> 1. What is the correct parent account for this? It feels to me like it is a
> Liability - money the business owes me but I suspect liabilities are debts
> to external entities (i.e. not me, the business owner).
> 2. Would I be better accounting for such purchases simply as money I put
> into the business (i.e. as an increase in Owner's Equity)?
> 
> I'm trying hard to get into this but can't afford to pay for professional
> lessons so any help at all would be very welcome.
> 
> Kind wishes  - Patrick
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[GNC] Beginner Accounting Question

[Patrick Skelton]

Hi,

I'm steadily 'getting' the double-entry idea. In my accounts (which I have
just begun experimenting with), I have an account that is called 'Personal
Money Used'. This is of type Cash. I use this account when I use my own
personal account (i.e. nothing to do with the business) to buy something
for the business.

I have two questions about this account:

1. What is the correct parent account for this? It feels to me like it is a
Liability - money the business owes me but I suspect liabilities are debts
to external entities (i.e. not me, the business owner).
2. Would I be better accounting for such purchases simply as money I put
into the business (i.e. as an increase in Owner's Equity)?

I'm trying hard to get into this but can't afford to pay for professional
lessons so any help at all would be very welcome.

Kind wishes  - Patrick
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Re: [GNC] building gnucash on ubuntu 20.04

[Geert Janssens]

Op maandag 20 december 2021 00:47:33 CET schreef John Griessen:
> On 12/17/21 09:45, John Griessen wrote:
> > will get the 4.8 tag from git and try it.
> 
> I tried 4.8 and got an instant segfault, so I tried 4.8a.
> That gave odd GUI differences -- no colored bands for lines and that was so
> disorienting I went back to the minor bugs in the flatpak GnuCash
> org.gnucash.GnuCash  4.8a+ (Flathub 4.8-1)
> version.
> 
> I was using a build dir with the same parent dir as the git checkout of tag
> 4.8a.

Hi, it looks like you lost your settings while switching to your self-built 
gnucash.

There can be many reasons for this:
- You have only ever run gnucash from flatpak and are now switching to a 
self-built gnucash 
for the first time. That would be expected behaviour (outside of gnucash 
control). Think of 
flatpak as running completely independent from your host system. So the host 
doesn't see 
anything from what happens in flatpak land.
- You have or had a previous version of gnucash installed (pre-4.7), that 
version is still around 
and the search paths for settings (GSettings to be precise) are such that the 
settings 
configuration of the old version is preferred over the new one.
- You had previously built gnucash verion 4.6 or older and did not uninstall 
that version prior 
to installing your freshly built gnucash 4.8+
- ... other situations we haven't come across yet.

There is no easy solution for the first situation. That's like migrating from 
one PC to another. 
The wiki has some details on how to export and import preferences if you really 
want to do 
so.
For the other two it's a matter of figuring out which older gnucash is 
interfering with your 
current one.

Regards,

Geert
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Re: [GNC] ​Re: 4.9 on Ubuntu 20.04 not saving preferences

[Geert Janssens]

Hi David and Tim,

I don't think the compression format of the source files matters. Instead my 
guess is for the 
second build the installation directory got cleaned out or some similar action. 
That would 
solve the conflicting GSettings keys.  Running make/ninja uninstall from the 
4.6 build 
directory would probably solve it too. Obviously I wasn't there so I can only 
guess.

Regards,

Geert

Op dinsdag 21 december 2021 03:25:03 CET schreef davidcousen...@gmail.com:
> Tim,
> 
> Good to see its fixed although I don't really understand why. I downloaded
> and built from the .bz2 file without any problems and I extract it using
> the Archive Manager which AFAIK is the Ubuntu manager. It may have to do
> with what zip tools you are using, I have both installed and presumably the
> Archiv Manager picks which one to use based on the file extension.
> 
> David
> 
> On Mon, 2021-12-20 at 20:16 -0500, Tim Kallmer wrote:
> > Solved: I reverted to 4.6 by downloading the .gz for 4.6. It built and ran
> > fine. I realized 4.9 was extracted from downloading the .bz2. So I tried
> > 4.9 again by downloading the .gz for 4.9. And voila, it built and ran
> > fine.
> > I have my preferences and colors back.
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Re: [GNC] 4.9 on Ubuntu 20.04 not saving preferences

[Geert Janssens]

Op maandag 20 december 2021 18:10:20 CET schreef Tim Kallmer:
> I built 4.9 and installed in home/[user]/.local over my previous 4.6
> version. Everything went smoothly, but each time I start GC, it is like it
> is a fresh start with no preferences saved, no splash screen, and the
> working file not remembered. My working file does open when I select it
> manually, but account colors do not show even after changing the
> preference. All of the registers have white backgrounds also.
> 
> I tried it twice, once with cmake and another time with ninja. Both
> installs are acting the same. I am not blocking localhost or 127.0.0.1.
> Ideas?

That sounds like the GSettings migration that comes with your upgrade is 
failing for some 
reason. All the issues you mention are related to preferences that are kept in 
GSettings.

You say you installed *over* your previous 4.6 installation. That may well be 
the reason. Can 
you list the files found in /home/[user]/.local/share/glib-2.0/schemas ?

Regards,

Geert
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