Re: How to have correct citation of gnumeric
On 01/30/2016 04:13 AM, Adrian Custer wrote: > Absolutely not! > > The Gnome Foundation was not alive when the majority of the work on > Gnumeric was done. Also, as a historical aside, the "Gnome Project" > was guaranteed, when the foundation was formed, that the foundation > would not *become* the project but merely provide legal, financial, > and organizational support to the project. Despite the warnings from > those of us against the formation of the foundation, the foundation > immediately started changing the vision of itself to the point that > the project and the foundation are now confused. > Thank you very much for the correction. I was pretty sure I would be missing at least one level of nuance (umm, I really want a stronger word here) in all of this, which led me to hesitate to intervene. But then I saw what seemed to be a misunderstanding of the original request which led me to feel I had no choice. ;-) -- David Benfell, Ph.D. benf...@parts-unknown.org signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ gnumeric-list mailing list gnumeric-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnumeric-list
Re: How to have correct citation of gnumeric
On 1/29/16 11:01 PM, David Benfell wrote: As I'm understanding Gabriela, Tim is right. She needs the information for a citation for Gnumeric itself. She supplied the corresponding information for R to illustrate what she needs (and in a citation style that I'm personally unfamiliar with). Yes, that seems to be the original request. Since there is no formally published document describing the Gnumeric project, I would suggest the following: Author: The Gnome Project. Title: "The Gnumeric Spreadsheet: Free, Fast, Accurate --- pick any three" URL: http://www.gnumeric.org Date:~release date of version used~ Version: ~this should be included for any scientific work~ So you would end up with: \bold{The Gnome Project} \it{The Gnumeric Spreadsheet: Free, Fast, Accurate --- pick any three}, version 1.12.26, \texttt{http://www.gnumeric.org} 2015. or some such; the formatting will depend on the place the citation is published since usually each publisher or university imposes its own formatting rules. Does that sound reasonable to everyone? I think what she is most likely missing is an author or organization that is responsible for Gnumeric and another one that publishes it. As I was looking around in her response to her question, I think the Gnome Foundation (if I'm remembering the name right) might be listed as a publisher; sometimes this can also be used in place of the author. Absolutely not! The Gnome Foundation was not alive when the majority of the work on Gnumeric was done. Also, as a historical aside, the "Gnome Project" was guaranteed, when the foundation was formed, that the foundation would not *become* the project but merely provide legal, financial, and organizational support to the project. Despite the warnings from those of us against the formation of the foundation, the foundation immediately started changing the vision of itself to the point that the project and the foundation are now confused. Hope that helps, ~adrian ___ gnumeric-list mailing list gnumeric-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnumeric-list
Re: How to have correct citation of gnumeric
On 01/29/2016 04:22 AM, ken wrote: > If she's after names of people, that's going to be a few names. This > is open source, after all. But in that case in the package itself > (and I don't know which one she used) she should go through the files > contained in that package. I just looked quickly through them and > there are especially files called README*, CITATION, COPYRIGHTS, and > probably others containing names of people who contributed effort. > The CITATION files contain citations to scholarly journal articles... > maybe that's what she's after??? And there may be yet other files she > would want to see. There are a lot of *.html files too in that > package. Anyway, maybe she needs to look in the files already > installed on her computer. As I'm understanding Gabriela, Tim is right. She needs the information for a citation for Gnumeric itself. She supplied the corresponding information for R to illustrate what she needs (and in a citation style that I'm personally unfamiliar with). I think what she is most likely missing is an author or organization that is responsible for Gnumeric and another one that publishes it. As I was looking around in her response to her question, I think the Gnome Foundation (if I'm remembering the name right) might be listed as a publisher; sometimes this can also be used in place of the author. > > > On 01/29/2016 06:26 AM, Tim Schofield wrote: >> Ken, I think Gabriela is asking how Gnumeric should be credited in the >> paper they are publishing. >> >> Tim >> >> On 29 January 2016 at 10:59, ken wrote: >>> On 01/28/2016 11:33 AM, Gabriela Hoff wrote: Dear Sir or Madam I am using R statisitcal tookit and Gnumeric to perform statistical analysis to a paper and I would like to have the correct citation to gnumeric in this paper. I am using the statistical package of the last gnumeric version available. To R I was able to retrieve the infomration: "[31] R Core Team. R: A language and environment for statistical computing. R Foundation for Statistical Computing, Vienna, Austria. URL http://www.R-project.org/. (2014)." I tried to find information in the webpage but I didn't succeed. Would you, please, send me the directions to find the correct citation? Thank you in advance, -- Gabriela Hoff Dra. Biociência Nucleares - Física Médica Fone: 51 8588 >>> >>> >>> Gabriela, >>> >>> I don't understand what sort of citation you're seeking or what that >>> citation is meant to verify or support. Perhaps you could explain this >>> more...? >>> >>> In the off-chance it might be helpful, here's the entry for R-core >>> included >>> in the RPM package: >>> >>> --- >>> $ rpm -qi R-core >>> Name: R-core Relocations: (not >>> relocatable) >>> Version : 3.2.3 Vendor: Fedora Project >>> Release : 1.el5 Build Date: Fri 11 Dec 2015 >>> 09:19:43 PM EST >>> Install Date: Wed 06 Jan 2016 09:37:28 AM EST Build Host: >>> buildvm-03.phx2.fedoraproject.org >>> Group : Applications/Engineering Source RPM: >>> R-3.2.3-1.el5.src.rpm >>> Size: 84421779 License: GPLv2+ >>> Signature : DSA/SHA1, Tue 15 Dec 2015 04:30:09 AM EST, Key ID >>> 119cc036217521f6 >>> Packager: Fedora Project >>> URL : http://www.r-project.org >>> Summary : The minimal R components necessary for a functional >>> runtime >>> Description : >>> A language and environment for statistical computing and graphics. >>> R is similar to the award-winning S system, which was developed at >>> Bell Laboratories by John Chambers et al. It provides a wide >>> variety of statistical and graphical techniques (linear and >>> nonlinear modelling, statistical tests, time series analysis, >>> classification, clustering, ...). >>> >>> R is designed as a true computer language with control-flow >>> constructions for iteration and alternation, and it allows users to >>> add additional functionality by defining new functions. For >>> computationally intensive tasks, C, C++ and Fortran code can be linked >>> and called at run time. >>> >>> --- >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> gnumeric-list mailing list >>> gnumeric-list@gnome.org >>> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnumeric-list >> >> >> > > ___ > gnumeric-list mailing list > gnumeric-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnumeric-list -- David Benfell, Ph.D. benf...@parts-unknown.org signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ gnumeric-list mailing list gnumeric-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnumeric-list
Re: How to have correct citation of gnumeric
We do not have a standard way of doing that, but mirroring what R does and pointing to www.gnumeric.org would be reasonable. Morten On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 11:33 AM, Gabriela Hoff wrote: > Dear Sir or Madam > > I am using R statisitcal tookit and Gnumeric to perform statistical analysis > to a paper and I would like to have the correct citation to gnumeric in this > paper. > I am using the statistical package of the last gnumeric version available. > > To R I was able to retrieve the infomration: > "[31] R Core Team. R: A language and environment for statistical computing. > R Foundation for Statistical Computing, Vienna, Austria. URL > http://www.R-project.org/. (2014)." > > I tried to find information in the webpage but I didn't succeed. > Would you, please, send me the directions to find the correct citation? > > Thank you in advance, > -- > Gabriela Hoff > Dra. Biociência Nucleares - Física Médica > Fone: 51 8588 > > ___ > gnumeric-list mailing list > gnumeric-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnumeric-list > ___ gnumeric-list mailing list gnumeric-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnumeric-list
Re: How to have correct citation of gnumeric
I was referring specifically to the R package. Much the same-- credits and copyrights etc.-- for gnumeric would likewise be found in the files which came in the gnumeric package. On 01/29/2016 07:22 AM, ken wrote: If she's after names of people, that's going to be a few names. This is open source, after all. But in that case in the package itself (and I don't know which one she used) she should go through the files contained in that package. I just looked quickly through them and there are especially files called README*, CITATION, COPYRIGHTS, and probably others containing names of people who contributed effort. The CITATION files contain citations to scholarly journal articles... maybe that's what she's after??? And there may be yet other files she would want to see. There are a lot of *.html files too in that package. Anyway, maybe she needs to look in the files already installed on her computer. On 01/29/2016 06:26 AM, Tim Schofield wrote: Ken, I think Gabriela is asking how Gnumeric should be credited in the paper they are publishing. Tim On 29 January 2016 at 10:59, ken wrote: On 01/28/2016 11:33 AM, Gabriela Hoff wrote: Dear Sir or Madam I am using R statisitcal tookit and Gnumeric to perform statistical analysis to a paper and I would like to have the correct citation to gnumeric in this paper. I am using the statistical package of the last gnumeric version available. To R I was able to retrieve the infomration: "[31] R Core Team. R: A language and environment for statistical computing. R Foundation for Statistical Computing, Vienna, Austria. URL http://www.R-project.org/. (2014)." I tried to find information in the webpage but I didn't succeed. Would you, please, send me the directions to find the correct citation? Thank you in advance, -- Gabriela Hoff Dra. Biociência Nucleares - Física Médica Fone: 51 8588 Gabriela, I don't understand what sort of citation you're seeking or what that citation is meant to verify or support. Perhaps you could explain this more...? In the off-chance it might be helpful, here's the entry for R-core included in the RPM package: --- $ rpm -qi R-core Name: R-core Relocations: (not relocatable) Version : 3.2.3 Vendor: Fedora Project Release : 1.el5 Build Date: Fri 11 Dec 2015 09:19:43 PM EST Install Date: Wed 06 Jan 2016 09:37:28 AM EST Build Host: buildvm-03.phx2.fedoraproject.org Group : Applications/Engineering Source RPM: R-3.2.3-1.el5.src.rpm Size: 84421779 License: GPLv2+ Signature : DSA/SHA1, Tue 15 Dec 2015 04:30:09 AM EST, Key ID 119cc036217521f6 Packager: Fedora Project URL : http://www.r-project.org Summary : The minimal R components necessary for a functional runtime Description : A language and environment for statistical computing and graphics. R is similar to the award-winning S system, which was developed at Bell Laboratories by John Chambers et al. It provides a wide variety of statistical and graphical techniques (linear and nonlinear modelling, statistical tests, time series analysis, classification, clustering, ...). R is designed as a true computer language with control-flow constructions for iteration and alternation, and it allows users to add additional functionality by defining new functions. For computationally intensive tasks, C, C++ and Fortran code can be linked and called at run time. --- ___ gnumeric-list mailing list gnumeric-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnumeric-list ___ gnumeric-list mailing list gnumeric-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnumeric-list ___ gnumeric-list mailing list gnumeric-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnumeric-list
Re: How to have correct citation of gnumeric
If she's after names of people, that's going to be a few names. This is open source, after all. But in that case in the package itself (and I don't know which one she used) she should go through the files contained in that package. I just looked quickly through them and there are especially files called README*, CITATION, COPYRIGHTS, and probably others containing names of people who contributed effort. The CITATION files contain citations to scholarly journal articles... maybe that's what she's after??? And there may be yet other files she would want to see. There are a lot of *.html files too in that package. Anyway, maybe she needs to look in the files already installed on her computer. On 01/29/2016 06:26 AM, Tim Schofield wrote: Ken, I think Gabriela is asking how Gnumeric should be credited in the paper they are publishing. Tim On 29 January 2016 at 10:59, ken wrote: On 01/28/2016 11:33 AM, Gabriela Hoff wrote: Dear Sir or Madam I am using R statisitcal tookit and Gnumeric to perform statistical analysis to a paper and I would like to have the correct citation to gnumeric in this paper. I am using the statistical package of the last gnumeric version available. To R I was able to retrieve the infomration: "[31] R Core Team. R: A language and environment for statistical computing. R Foundation for Statistical Computing, Vienna, Austria. URL http://www.R-project.org/. (2014)." I tried to find information in the webpage but I didn't succeed. Would you, please, send me the directions to find the correct citation? Thank you in advance, -- Gabriela Hoff Dra. Biociência Nucleares - Física Médica Fone: 51 8588 Gabriela, I don't understand what sort of citation you're seeking or what that citation is meant to verify or support. Perhaps you could explain this more...? In the off-chance it might be helpful, here's the entry for R-core included in the RPM package: --- $ rpm -qi R-core Name: R-core Relocations: (not relocatable) Version : 3.2.3 Vendor: Fedora Project Release : 1.el5 Build Date: Fri 11 Dec 2015 09:19:43 PM EST Install Date: Wed 06 Jan 2016 09:37:28 AM EST Build Host: buildvm-03.phx2.fedoraproject.org Group : Applications/Engineering Source RPM: R-3.2.3-1.el5.src.rpm Size: 84421779 License: GPLv2+ Signature : DSA/SHA1, Tue 15 Dec 2015 04:30:09 AM EST, Key ID 119cc036217521f6 Packager: Fedora Project URL : http://www.r-project.org Summary : The minimal R components necessary for a functional runtime Description : A language and environment for statistical computing and graphics. R is similar to the award-winning S system, which was developed at Bell Laboratories by John Chambers et al. It provides a wide variety of statistical and graphical techniques (linear and nonlinear modelling, statistical tests, time series analysis, classification, clustering, ...). R is designed as a true computer language with control-flow constructions for iteration and alternation, and it allows users to add additional functionality by defining new functions. For computationally intensive tasks, C, C++ and Fortran code can be linked and called at run time. --- ___ gnumeric-list mailing list gnumeric-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnumeric-list ___ gnumeric-list mailing list gnumeric-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnumeric-list
Re: How to have correct citation of gnumeric
Ken, I think Gabriela is asking how Gnumeric should be credited in the paper they are publishing. Tim On 29 January 2016 at 10:59, ken wrote: > On 01/28/2016 11:33 AM, Gabriela Hoff wrote: >> >> Dear Sir or Madam >> >> I am using R statisitcal tookit and Gnumeric to perform statistical >> analysis to a paper and I would like to have the correct citation to >> gnumeric in this paper. >> I am using the statistical package of the last gnumeric version available. >> >> To R I was able to retrieve the infomration: >> "[31] R Core Team. R: A language and environment for statistical >> computing. R Foundation for Statistical Computing, Vienna, Austria. URL >> http://www.R-project.org/. (2014)." >> >> I tried to find information in the webpage but I didn't succeed. >> Would you, please, send me the directions to find the correct citation? >> >> Thank you in advance, >> -- >> Gabriela Hoff >> Dra. Biociência Nucleares - Física Médica >> Fone: 51 8588 > > > Gabriela, > > I don't understand what sort of citation you're seeking or what that > citation is meant to verify or support. Perhaps you could explain this > more...? > > In the off-chance it might be helpful, here's the entry for R-core included > in the RPM package: > > --- > $ rpm -qi R-core > Name: R-core Relocations: (not relocatable) > Version : 3.2.3 Vendor: Fedora Project > Release : 1.el5 Build Date: Fri 11 Dec 2015 > 09:19:43 PM EST > Install Date: Wed 06 Jan 2016 09:37:28 AM EST Build Host: > buildvm-03.phx2.fedoraproject.org > Group : Applications/Engineering Source RPM: > R-3.2.3-1.el5.src.rpm > Size: 84421779 License: GPLv2+ > Signature : DSA/SHA1, Tue 15 Dec 2015 04:30:09 AM EST, Key ID > 119cc036217521f6 > Packager: Fedora Project > URL : http://www.r-project.org > Summary : The minimal R components necessary for a functional runtime > Description : > A language and environment for statistical computing and graphics. > R is similar to the award-winning S system, which was developed at > Bell Laboratories by John Chambers et al. It provides a wide > variety of statistical and graphical techniques (linear and > nonlinear modelling, statistical tests, time series analysis, > classification, clustering, ...). > > R is designed as a true computer language with control-flow > constructions for iteration and alternation, and it allows users to > add additional functionality by defining new functions. For > computationally intensive tasks, C, C++ and Fortran code can be linked > and called at run time. > > --- > > > > ___ > gnumeric-list mailing list > gnumeric-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnumeric-list -- Course View Towers, Plot 21 Yusuf Lule Road, Kampala T +256 (0) 312 314 418 M +256 (0) 752 963 325 www.weberpafrica.com @TimSchofield2 Blog: http://weberpafrica.blogspot.co.uk/ ___ gnumeric-list mailing list gnumeric-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnumeric-list
Re: How to have correct citation of gnumeric
On 01/28/2016 11:33 AM, Gabriela Hoff wrote: Dear Sir or Madam I am using R statisitcal tookit and Gnumeric to perform statistical analysis to a paper and I would like to have the correct citation to gnumeric in this paper. I am using the statistical package of the last gnumeric version available. To R I was able to retrieve the infomration: "[31] R Core Team. R: A language and environment for statistical computing. R Foundation for Statistical Computing, Vienna, Austria. URL http://www.R-project.org/. (2014)." I tried to find information in the webpage but I didn't succeed. Would you, please, send me the directions to find the correct citation? Thank you in advance, -- Gabriela Hoff Dra. Biociência Nucleares - Física Médica Fone: 51 8588 Gabriela, I don't understand what sort of citation you're seeking or what that citation is meant to verify or support. Perhaps you could explain this more...? In the off-chance it might be helpful, here's the entry for R-core included in the RPM package: --- $ rpm -qi R-core Name: R-core Relocations: (not relocatable) Version : 3.2.3 Vendor: Fedora Project Release : 1.el5 Build Date: Fri 11 Dec 2015 09:19:43 PM EST Install Date: Wed 06 Jan 2016 09:37:28 AM EST Build Host: buildvm-03.phx2.fedoraproject.org Group : Applications/Engineering Source RPM: R-3.2.3-1.el5.src.rpm Size: 84421779 License: GPLv2+ Signature : DSA/SHA1, Tue 15 Dec 2015 04:30:09 AM EST, Key ID 119cc036217521f6 Packager: Fedora Project URL : http://www.r-project.org Summary : The minimal R components necessary for a functional runtime Description : A language and environment for statistical computing and graphics. R is similar to the award-winning S system, which was developed at Bell Laboratories by John Chambers et al. It provides a wide variety of statistical and graphical techniques (linear and nonlinear modelling, statistical tests, time series analysis, classification, clustering, ...). R is designed as a true computer language with control-flow constructions for iteration and alternation, and it allows users to add additional functionality by defining new functions. For computationally intensive tasks, C, C++ and Fortran code can be linked and called at run time. --- ___ gnumeric-list mailing list gnumeric-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnumeric-list