Re: [Goanet] Christmas Greetings: Christ and Gandhi

2005-12-28 Thread Mario Goveia
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--- Vidyadhar Gadgil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> "Peace on Earth" Means "No More War" by John Dear
> 
> John Dear is a Jesuit priest, peace activist, and
> the author/editor of 20 books on peace and
nonviolence,
> including most recently "The Questions of Jesus" and
> "Living Peace," both published by Doubleday. He is
> the coordinator of Pax Christi New Mexico. For
> information, see: www.fatherjohndear.org and
> www.paxchristinewmexico.org
> 
> Published on Saturday, December 24, 2005 by
> CommonDreams.org
> http://www.commondreams.org/views05/1224-21.htm
>  
> The story goes that when the nonviolent Jesus was
> born into abject poverty to homeless refugees on the
> outskirts of a brutal empire, angels appeared in the
> sky to impoverished shepherds singing, "Glory to God
> in the highest and peace on earth!" That child grew
up
> to become, in Gandhi's words, "the greatest
nonviolent
> resister in the history of the world," and was
> subsequently executed by the empire for his
insistence
> on justice.
> 
Mario observes:
>
I'm not sure what political version of Christianity
would lead a Jesuit priest to refer to the new-born
Jesus as "nonviolent", and to describe HIM as "born
into abject poverty" to "homeless refugees", both of
which are Biblical falsehoods.  Joseph was a
professional carpenter and he and Mary were not
"homeless" nor "refugees", simply unable to find
lodgings that night.  One would think any priest would
know this stuff.  Or is Fr. Dear a  political activist
with an agenda?
>
The author continues:
>
> This weekend, as tens of millions of Christians
> across the country celebrate the birth of the Prince
of
> Peace, the U.S. wages war in Iraq, Afghanistan,
Colombia
> and elsewhere; crushes the hungry, homeless,
elderly,
> imprisoned and refugee; and maintains the world's
ultimate 
> terrorist threat--its nuclear arsenal.
> 
> Like Herod, Pilate and their soldiers, we have
rejected the 
> angels' call for "peace on earth." When Bush,
Cheney, Rumsfeld 
> and their warmaking supporters celebrate Christmas,
they mock 
> Christ and his steadfast nonviolence, and carry on
the 
> massacre of the innocents.
> 
Mario observes:
>
I wonder if Mr. Gadgil can post some of Fr. Dear's
writings that may have confronted the REAL massacre of
innocents, the hundreds of thousands of Iraqi citizens
massacred by Saddam Hussein in his attempts to
maintain his brutal dictatorship, 5,000 in a single
chemical attack in Halabja, further hundreds of
thousands of innocent civilians when he pre-emptively
attacked Iran and Kuwait, and dozens of innocent
Israelis who were killed by suicide bombers whose
families were paid bounties of $ 25,000 each. 
>
I'd like to know what Fr. Dear's did to confront the
ongoing violence in Sudan, and previously in Rwanda
and Burundi, Sierra Leone and Liberia.
>
I wonder what Fr. Dear had to say about the 3.75
million innocents massacred by the VietCong and Khmer
Rouge after the US was coerced into a political
retreat from Vietnam and Cambodia by people who think
like Fr. Dear.
>
I wonder if Fr. Dear is aware that it was Osama Bin
Laden who unilaterally and pre-emptively declared war
on the US at the height of Bill Clinton's
appeasement-oriented administration, and then levied a
series of deadly attacks on US interests in NY, Kenya,
Tanzania, Somalia, Saudi Arabia, Yemen and back to NY
on 9/11?
>
I wonder if Fr. Dear knows that, just a few weeks ago,
Alman al-Zuhawiri said that al-Qaeda's goal was to
force the Muslim countries in the middle-east into a
jihadi Islamist Caliphate which would defeat the west
and finally achieve the 60 year goal of eliminating
Israel?  Has Fr. Dear written an essay objecting to
this?  Maybe Mr. Gadgil can confirm.
>
I wonder if Fr. Dear missed Iran's Mahmoud
Ahmadinejad's recent confirmation of Iran's goal of
"wiping Israel off the map"?  Has Fr. Dear written an
essay objecting to this?  Maybe Mr. Gadgil can
confirm.
>
Fr. Dear continues:
>
> If the angels are correct, then Christmas requires
us to 
> welcome God's gift of peace on earth. In such a
time, that 
> means we have to work for an end to war.  Christmas
calls us 
> to become like Christ--people of active, creative,
steadfast 
> nonviolence who give our lives in resistance to
empire and war.
> 
Mario observes:
>
Maybe I missed this in my scriptual studies but where
does our religion teach us that we must be selective
in the violence that we oppose, tacitly supporting the
violence of dic

[Goanet] Christmas Greetings: Christ and Gandhi

2005-12-28 Thread Vidyadhar Gadgil
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"Peace on Earth" Means "No More War" by John Dear

John Dear is a Jesuit priest, peace activist, and the
author/editor of 20 books on peace and nonviolence,
including most recently "The Questions of Jesus" and
"Living Peace," both published by Doubleday. He is the
coordinator of Pax Christi New Mexico. For information,
see: www.fatherjohndear.org and
www.paxchristinewmexico.org

Published on Saturday, December 24, 2005 by
CommonDreams.org
http://www.commondreams.org/views05/1224-21.htm


The story goes that when the nonviolent Jesus was born
into abject poverty to homeless refugees on the
outskirts of a brutal empire, angels appeared in the
sky to impoverished shepherds singing, "Glory to God in
the highest and peace on earth!" That child grew up to
become, in Gandhi's words, "the greatest nonviolent
resister in the history of the world," and was
subsequently executed by the empire for his insistence
on justice.

This weekend, as tens of millions of Christians across
the country celebrate the birth of the Prince of Peace,
the U.S. wages war in Iraq, Afghanistan, Colombia and
elsewhere; crushes the hungry, homeless, elderly,
imprisoned and refugee; and maintains the world's
ultimate terrorist threat--its nuclear arsenal.

Like Herod, Pilate and their soldiers, we have rejected
the angels' call for "peace on earth." When Bush,
Cheney, Rumsfeld and their warmaking supporters
celebrate Christmas, they mock Christ and his steadfast
nonviolence, and carry on the massacre of the
innocents.

If the angels are correct, then Christmas requires us
to welcome God's gift of peace on earth. In such a
time, that means we have to work for an end to war.
Christmas calls us to become like Christ--people of
active, creative, steadfast nonviolence who give our
lives in resistance to empire and war.

In pursuit of this Christmas gift, a group of us met
this week with Bill Richardson, the Governor of New
Mexico, and asked him to dismantle our nuclear weapons
and disarm Los Alamos, the birthplace of the bomb. In
this day and age, it is surprising that any elected
official would meet and listen to anti-war activists.
Yet Richardson asked to begin a public dialogue with us
about nuclear disarmament. We take this as a sign of
hope, even as we continue our protests at Los Alamos.

When Gandhi was asked one Christmas day for his
thoughts about Christmas, he spoke about the connection
between the wood of the crib--Christ's poverty--and the
wood of the cross--Christ's nonviolent resistance to
evil. He said Christmas summons us to the same lifelong
nonviolence. It has social, economic, and political
implications. I think, like Gandhi, that we have to
make those connections and pursue those implications.
Here are a few of them.

First, Christmas celebrates the birth of a life of
perfect nonviolence and calls us to become people of
active nonviolence. Christmas invites us to practice
the vulnerable, disarming simplicity of children, to
live the disarmed life in solidarity with the children
of the world, and to spend our lives in resistance to
empire. It summons us to study, teach, practice and
experiment with creative nonviolence that we too might
live the life of nonviolence which Jesus exemplified so
that one day peace might reign one earth.

Second, Christmas demonstrates that God sides with the
poor, becomes one with the poor, and walks among the
poor. God does not side with the rulers, the rich or
the powerful, but with the homeless, the hungry and the
refugees. Christmas puts poverty front and center and
demands that we work to abolish poverty itself so that
every human being has food, clothing, housing,
healthcare, education, employment and a lifetime of
peace.

Third, since Christmas illustrates how God sides with
the poor in order to liberate the oppressed from
poverty and injustice, it calls us to reject greed,
give away our money and possessions to those in need,
and also live in solidarity with the disenfranchised.

Fourth, Christmas pushes us to stand on the margins of
society, where we will find God. Christmas announces
that every human being is a beloved son and daughter of
the God of love. Every human life is beautiful in the
eyes of God, since God has become one of us. From now
on, we reject exclusivity, racism, sexism, and
discrimination of any kind, and embrace everyone as
equal. We stand on the margins with the excluded, the
marginalized, the outsiders and outcasts. From there,
we envision a new reconciled