Re: spool to spool output transfer

2010-12-29 Thread Jousma, David
Thanks Ravi,

Yes we do have connect direct.   We have been looking into using it as
well.   Thanks for the heads up.

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Subject: Re: spool to spool output transfer

if you guys have connect direct as third party product spool to spool 
transfer is pretty easy stuff..

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Re: spool to spool output transfer

2010-12-28 Thread Ravi Kumar
if you guys have connect direct as third party product spool to spool 
transfer is pretty easy stuff..

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Re: spool to spool output transfer

2010-12-01 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 11:59 -0600 on 12/01/2010, Dana Mitchell wrote about Re: spool to 
spool output transfer:



 > would take JES2 -> JESA -> JESB -> JES2




Interesting puzzle.  Seems to me that still wouldn't work, since JESA would 
need to know about JES2 (left)  because it's connected to it,  and JES2
(right)  in order to know it needs to route traffic destined for 
JES2 (right) via

JESB.

Dana


It is doable.

All 4 Nodes have

N1   JES2
N255 JESB
N254 JESA
CONNECT NODE1=JESA,NODE2=JESB
CONNECT NODE1=JESA,NODE2=JES2

Note that the CONNECT statement does not pass connection information 
between nodes. Also the JES2 in JESA is JES2 Left while the JES2 in 
JESB is JES2 Right.


On JES2 Left you route the data to N255 (which passes it through 
JESA's JESA<->JESB connection) via a ROUTE NODE=N255 command (I 
forget the syntax). On JESB, you have a timed $TA that does the route 
of N255 to N1 (passing it the rest of the way).


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Re: spool to spool output transfer

2010-12-01 Thread Dana Mitchell
> would take JES2 -> JESA -> JESB -> JES2
> 

Interesting puzzle.  Seems to me that still wouldn't work, since JESA would  
need to know about JES2 (left)  because it's connected to it,  and JES2 
(right)  in order to know it needs to route traffic destined for JES2 (right) 
via 
JESB.

Dana

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Re: spool to spool output transfer

2010-12-01 Thread McKown, John
You're probably right. 

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> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Jousma, David
> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 9:17 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Subject: Re: spool to spool output transfer
> 
> Well, I thought about that, but I don't think that works either. JESA
> would have to know about both JES2's of the same name, and that still
> doesn't work(at least that is my understanding).
> 
> Someone correct me if I am wrong.please.  I think it 
> would take JES2
> -> JESA -> JESB -> JES2
> 
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> Behalf Of McKown, John
> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 9:45 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Subject: Re: spool to spool output transfer
> 
> I don't think this is what you will want, but I'll just throw it out
> there anyway. Have you considered running two JES2 systems on 
> system #1?
> The second JES2 would be, say, JESA. You could then NJE from JES2 to
> JESA on system #1, then NJE from JESA on system #1 to the 
> JES2 on system
> #2. I'm not sure, but I think you'd need to turn off the "network path
> manager" in JESA. That's PATHMGR=NO on the NODE for JESA as defined in
> the other JES2 systems.
> 
> --
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> Systems Engineer IV
> IT
> 
> Administrative Services Group
> 
> HealthMarkets(r)
> 
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> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> > [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Jousma, David
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 8:21 AM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> > Subject: Re: spool to spool output transfer
> > 
> > Thanks Gilbert.
> > 
> > I have to be able to do the action to all output in a certain output
> > class via a interval driven process.
> > 
> > I am still leaning toward the spool offload process.
> > 
> > _
> > Dave Jousma
> > Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Services
> > david.jou...@53.com
> > 1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI  49546 MD RSCB1G
> > p 616.653.8429
> > f 616.653.8497
> > 
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> > Behalf Of Gilbert Cardenas
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 9:13 AM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> > Subject: Re: spool to spool output transfer
> > 
> > I had a similar requirement a few months back because for 
> some reason,
> > they 
> > have NJE locked up real tight around here.
> > 
> > I created a rexx routine that basically ftps the spool file to the
> > intended lpar 
> > by ip address.
> > 
> > I initiate the process by performing an SE on the spool 
> entry and then
> > typing 
> > the Edit Macro/REXX at the command line.  For lack of creativity, I
> >

Re: spool to spool output transfer

2010-12-01 Thread Jousma, David
Well, I thought about that, but I don't think that works either. JESA
would have to know about both JES2's of the same name, and that still
doesn't work(at least that is my understanding).

Someone correct me if I am wrong.please.  I think it would take JES2
-> JESA -> JESB -> JES2

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Dave Jousma
Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Services
david.jou...@53.com
1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI  49546 MD RSCB1G
p 616.653.8429
f 616.653.8497


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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On
Behalf Of McKown, John
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 9:45 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: spool to spool output transfer

I don't think this is what you will want, but I'll just throw it out
there anyway. Have you considered running two JES2 systems on system #1?
The second JES2 would be, say, JESA. You could then NJE from JES2 to
JESA on system #1, then NJE from JESA on system #1 to the JES2 on system
#2. I'm not sure, but I think you'd need to turn off the "network path
manager" in JESA. That's PATHMGR=NO on the NODE for JESA as defined in
the other JES2 systems.

--
John McKown 
Systems Engineer IV
IT

Administrative Services Group

HealthMarkets(r)

9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010
(817) 255-3225 phone * 
john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com

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> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Jousma, David
> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 8:21 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Subject: Re: spool to spool output transfer
> 
> Thanks Gilbert.
> 
> I have to be able to do the action to all output in a certain output
> class via a interval driven process.
> 
> I am still leaning toward the spool offload process.
> 
> _
> Dave Jousma
> Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Services
> david.jou...@53.com
> 1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI  49546 MD RSCB1G
> p 616.653.8429
> f 616.653.8497
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On
> Behalf Of Gilbert Cardenas
> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 9:13 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Subject: Re: spool to spool output transfer
> 
> I had a similar requirement a few months back because for some reason,
> they 
> have NJE locked up real tight around here.
> 
> I created a rexx routine that basically ftps the spool file to the
> intended lpar 
> by ip address.
> 
> I initiate the process by performing an SE on the spool entry and then
> typing 
> the Edit Macro/REXX at the command line.  For lack of creativity, I
> called my 
> script LPR and follow it by the destination name of the lpar such as
> PROD, 
> DEV, QA etc. The esoteric name then gets converted by the 
> rexx to the ip
> 
> address of the lpar and I can ftp to the same lpar where the 
> command was
> 
> initiated if needed.
> 
> I place a jcl skeleton (iebgener) and spool data into an mvs file 
> (RECFM=VBA,LRECL=300,BLKSIZE=27900) 
> and then FTP the file to the desired lpar to create the new 
> spool entry.
> 
> QUOTE SITE FILETYP=JES
> MODE B
> TYPE E
> QUOTE SITE JESLRECL=254
> PUT '||"'"FIL2FTP"'"
> 
> Although it is not fully automated and the original characteristics of
> the spool 
> entry are not kept, it has worked fine for all intents and purposes.
> I'm positive there is much room for improvement but my only 
> requirement
> was 
> to be able to print a report/sysout for programmers from lpars that do
> not 
> have printers set up so it works just fine for me.  Offloading to a
> spool offload 
> dataset and then reloading was too cumbersome so this was much easier.
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 13:09:03 -0500, Jousma, David 
>  wrote:
> 
> >All,
> >
> >Looking for ideas for doing spool to spool transfer of 
> output NOT using
> >NJE.Issue is transferring output between two different 
> MAS-plex of
> >the same node-name.  NJE would work if multi-hopped, NODE-A connected
> to

Re: spool to spool output transfer

2010-12-01 Thread McKown, John
I don't think this is what you will want, but I'll just throw it out there 
anyway. Have you considered running two JES2 systems on system #1? The second 
JES2 would be, say, JESA. You could then NJE from JES2 to JESA on system #1, 
then NJE from JESA on system #1 to the JES2 on system #2. I'm not sure, but I 
think you'd need to turn off the "network path manager" in JESA. That's 
PATHMGR=NO on the NODE for JESA as defined in the other JES2 systems.

--
John McKown 
Systems Engineer IV
IT

Administrative Services Group

HealthMarkets(r)

9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010
(817) 255-3225 phone * 
john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com

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Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The 
MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM

 

> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Jousma, David
> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 8:21 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Subject: Re: spool to spool output transfer
> 
> Thanks Gilbert.
> 
> I have to be able to do the action to all output in a certain output
> class via a interval driven process.
> 
> I am still leaning toward the spool offload process.
> 
> _
> Dave Jousma
> Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Services
> david.jou...@53.com
> 1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI  49546 MD RSCB1G
> p 616.653.8429
> f 616.653.8497
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On
> Behalf Of Gilbert Cardenas
> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 9:13 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Subject: Re: spool to spool output transfer
> 
> I had a similar requirement a few months back because for some reason,
> they 
> have NJE locked up real tight around here.
> 
> I created a rexx routine that basically ftps the spool file to the
> intended lpar 
> by ip address.
> 
> I initiate the process by performing an SE on the spool entry and then
> typing 
> the Edit Macro/REXX at the command line.  For lack of creativity, I
> called my 
> script LPR and follow it by the destination name of the lpar such as
> PROD, 
> DEV, QA etc. The esoteric name then gets converted by the 
> rexx to the ip
> 
> address of the lpar and I can ftp to the same lpar where the 
> command was
> 
> initiated if needed.
> 
> I place a jcl skeleton (iebgener) and spool data into an mvs file 
> (RECFM=VBA,LRECL=300,BLKSIZE=27900) 
> and then FTP the file to the desired lpar to create the new 
> spool entry.
> 
> QUOTE SITE FILETYP=JES
> MODE B
> TYPE E
> QUOTE SITE JESLRECL=254
> PUT '||"'"FIL2FTP"'"
> 
> Although it is not fully automated and the original characteristics of
> the spool 
> entry are not kept, it has worked fine for all intents and purposes.
> I'm positive there is much room for improvement but my only 
> requirement
> was 
> to be able to print a report/sysout for programmers from lpars that do
> not 
> have printers set up so it works just fine for me.  Offloading to a
> spool offload 
> dataset and then reloading was too cumbersome so this was much easier.
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 13:09:03 -0500, Jousma, David 
>  wrote:
> 
> >All,
> >
> >Looking for ideas for doing spool to spool transfer of 
> output NOT using
> >NJE.Issue is transferring output between two different 
> MAS-plex of
> >the same node-name.  NJE would work if multi-hopped, NODE-A connected
> to
> >NODE-B, NODE-B connected to NODE-C, and finally NODE-C 
> connects to the
> >other NODE-A, but that is too many hops in my opinion.  
> >
> >Looking for other creative, supportable methods to solve this.
> Already
> >thinking about:
> >
> >-Automated spool offload to dataset, FTP to remote site, spool
> >reload
> >-??
> >
> >Assumptions:
> >
> >-Maintain print characteristics
> >-both spools have the same node name, that's why is not the first
> >option
> >-cannot change node name due to external customer connections
> >-existing external connections are using Enterprise Extender, and
> >the IP's of the sepa

Re: spool to spool output transfer

2010-12-01 Thread Jousma, David
Thanks Gilbert.

I have to be able to do the action to all output in a certain output
class via a interval driven process.

I am still leaning toward the spool offload process.

_
Dave Jousma
Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Services
david.jou...@53.com
1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI  49546 MD RSCB1G
p 616.653.8429
f 616.653.8497


-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On
Behalf Of Gilbert Cardenas
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 9:13 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: spool to spool output transfer

I had a similar requirement a few months back because for some reason,
they 
have NJE locked up real tight around here.

I created a rexx routine that basically ftps the spool file to the
intended lpar 
by ip address.

I initiate the process by performing an SE on the spool entry and then
typing 
the Edit Macro/REXX at the command line.  For lack of creativity, I
called my 
script LPR and follow it by the destination name of the lpar such as
PROD, 
DEV, QA etc. The esoteric name then gets converted by the rexx to the ip

address of the lpar and I can ftp to the same lpar where the command was

initiated if needed.

I place a jcl skeleton (iebgener) and spool data into an mvs file 
(RECFM=VBA,LRECL=300,BLKSIZE=27900) 
and then FTP the file to the desired lpar to create the new spool entry.

QUOTE SITE FILETYP=JES
MODE B
TYPE E
QUOTE SITE JESLRECL=254
PUT '||"'"FIL2FTP"'"

Although it is not fully automated and the original characteristics of
the spool 
entry are not kept, it has worked fine for all intents and purposes.
I'm positive there is much room for improvement but my only requirement
was 
to be able to print a report/sysout for programmers from lpars that do
not 
have printers set up so it works just fine for me.  Offloading to a
spool offload 
dataset and then reloading was too cumbersome so this was much easier.



On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 13:09:03 -0500, Jousma, David 
 wrote:

>All,
>
>Looking for ideas for doing spool to spool transfer of output NOT using
>NJE.Issue is transferring output between two different MAS-plex of
>the same node-name.  NJE would work if multi-hopped, NODE-A connected
to
>NODE-B, NODE-B connected to NODE-C, and finally NODE-C connects to the
>other NODE-A, but that is too many hops in my opinion.  
>
>Looking for other creative, supportable methods to solve this.
Already
>thinking about:
>
>-  Automated spool offload to dataset, FTP to remote site, spool
>reload
>-  ??
>
>Assumptions:
>
>-  Maintain print characteristics
>-  both spools have the same node name, that's why is not the first
>option
>-  cannot change node name due to external customer connections
>-  existing external connections are using Enterprise Extender, and
>the IP's of the separate hosts ARE different, so no conflict
externally.
>
>
>
>
>
>_
>Dave Jousma
>Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Services
>david.jou...@53.com
>1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI  49546 MD RSCB1G
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>f 616.653.8497
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Re: spool to spool output transfer

2010-12-01 Thread Gilbert Cardenas
I had a similar requirement a few months back because for some reason, they 
have NJE locked up real tight around here.

I created a rexx routine that basically ftps the spool file to the intended 
lpar 
by ip address.

I initiate the process by performing an SE on the spool entry and then typing 
the Edit Macro/REXX at the command line.  For lack of creativity, I called my 
script LPR and follow it by the destination name of the lpar such as PROD, 
DEV, QA etc. The esoteric name then gets converted by the rexx to the ip 
address of the lpar and I can ftp to the same lpar where the command was 
initiated if needed.

I place a jcl skeleton (iebgener) and spool data into an mvs file 
(RECFM=VBA,LRECL=300,BLKSIZE=27900) 
and then FTP the file to the desired lpar to create the new spool entry.

QUOTE SITE FILETYP=JES
MODE B
TYPE E
QUOTE SITE JESLRECL=254
PUT '||"'"FIL2FTP"'"

Although it is not fully automated and the original characteristics of the 
spool 
entry are not kept, it has worked fine for all intents and purposes.
I'm positive there is much room for improvement but my only requirement was 
to be able to print a report/sysout for programmers from lpars that do not 
have printers set up so it works just fine for me.  Offloading to a spool 
offload 
dataset and then reloading was too cumbersome so this was much easier.



On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 13:09:03 -0500, Jousma, David 
 wrote:

>All,
>
>Looking for ideas for doing spool to spool transfer of output NOT using
>NJE.Issue is transferring output between two different MAS-plex of
>the same node-name.  NJE would work if multi-hopped, NODE-A connected to
>NODE-B, NODE-B connected to NODE-C, and finally NODE-C connects to the
>other NODE-A, but that is too many hops in my opinion.  
>
>Looking for other creative, supportable methods to solve this.   Already
>thinking about:
>
>-  Automated spool offload to dataset, FTP to remote site, spool
>reload
>-  ??
>
>Assumptions:
>
>-  Maintain print characteristics
>-  both spools have the same node name, that's why is not the first
>option
>-  cannot change node name due to external customer connections
>-  existing external connections are using Enterprise Extender, and
>the IP's of the separate hosts ARE different, so no conflict externally.
>
>
>
>
>
>_
>Dave Jousma
>Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Services
>david.jou...@53.com
>1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI  49546 MD RSCB1G
>p 616.653.8429
>f 616.653.8497
>
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Re: spool to spool output transfer

2010-11-30 Thread Jousma, David
Node number is the same too.

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> Doesn't NJE over IP have the same restrictions as standard NJE of
>connecting two nodes of the same name?

I overlooked that detail. You should be able to use a node number as
long as they are different.

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Re: spool to spool output transfer

2010-11-30 Thread Bob Shannon
> Doesn't NJE over IP have the same restrictions as standard NJE of
>connecting two nodes of the same name?

I overlooked that detail. You should be able to use a node number as long as 
they are different.

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Re: spool to spool output transfer

2010-11-30 Thread Jousma, David
Doesn't NJE over IP have the same restrictions as standard NJE of
connecting two nodes of the same name?

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1. NJE over TCP would result in one hop (assuming IP connectivity
between the two MASs)
2. If it's a one-time exercise, can you do a spool unload/reload?

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Re: spool to spool output transfer

2010-11-30 Thread David Andrews
On Tue, 2010-11-30 at 13:09 -0500, Jousma, David wrote:
> Looking for ideas for doing spool to spool transfer of output NOT using
> NJE.

Maybe Sine Nomine's NJE/IP Bridge package would be useful here?
http://www.sinenomine.net/products/vm/njeip

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Re: spool to spool output transfer

2010-11-30 Thread Bob Shannon
1. NJE over TCP would result in one hop (assuming IP connectivity between the 
two MASs)
2. If it's a one-time exercise, can you do a spool unload/reload?

Bob Shannon
Rocket Software

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spool to spool output transfer

2010-11-30 Thread Jousma, David
All,

Looking for ideas for doing spool to spool transfer of output NOT using
NJE.Issue is transferring output between two different MAS-plex of
the same node-name.  NJE would work if multi-hopped, NODE-A connected to
NODE-B, NODE-B connected to NODE-C, and finally NODE-C connects to the
other NODE-A, but that is too many hops in my opinion.  

Looking for other creative, supportable methods to solve this.   Already
thinking about:

-   Automated spool offload to dataset, FTP to remote site, spool
reload
-   ??

Assumptions:

-   Maintain print characteristics
-   both spools have the same node name, that's why is not the first
option
-   cannot change node name due to external customer connections
-   existing external connections are using Enterprise Extender, and
the IP's of the separate hosts ARE different, so no conflict externally.





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