[Lift] Re: MappedDateTime - Do we have a Date? Or is it a timestamp?

2009-04-01 Thread Derek Chen-Becker
Well, I guess this bug needs updated:

http://liftweb.lighthouseapp.com/projects/26102-lift/tickets/28-mappeddatetime-does-not-store-time-portion-in-derby-10420

I would vote for JodaTime. Having written some scheduling apps in Java all I
can say about java.util.{Date,Calender} is WTF?

Derek

On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Clemens Oertel
wrote:

>
> While trying to figure out why my MappedDateTime fields get stored in
> the DB with all the time info set to 0, I noticed the following:
>
> MappedDateTime (v. 1.0) "claims" to be a TimeStamp: def targetSQLType
> = Types.TIMESTAMP. However, it uses java.sql.Date for its JDBC-
> friendly converted version, not java.sql.TimeStamp. If I read the
> java.sql.Date documentation correctly, java.sql.Date does set all time
> information to 0, since the SQL DATE type only stores dates, by no
> times.
>
> Any comment whether this might have something to do with me losing my
> time would be appreciated.
>
> Best,
> Clemens
>
> >
>

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[Lift] Re: MappedDateTime - Do we have a Date? Or is it a timestamp?

2009-04-01 Thread Viktor Klang
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 11:10 PM, Timothy Perrett
wrote:

>
>
> > chronologies (calendar systems). It's also completely immutable (oh, you
> > didn't know java.util.Calendar isn't thread-safe? you're lucky to have
> never
> > had to track down that bug).
>
> LOL!!! Its not thread safe!? Thats somewhat of an oversight isnt it...


java.text.Format horror SimpleDateFormat horror...


>
>
> >
>


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[Lift] Re: MappedDateTime - Do we have a Date? Or is it a timestamp?

2009-04-01 Thread Josh Suereth
Thanks Jorge!  We just started using JodaTime and it's definitely everything
we wanted from a Time API.   Good Find!!!



On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 8:31 PM, Kris Nuttycombe
wrote:

>
> I'm also using joda-time, and very pleased with it. In fact, I use it
> in my Lift project - via JPA with the provided Hibernate extensions
> for mapping of DateTime, Period, etc.
>
> Kris
>
> On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 1:54 PM, TylerWeir  wrote:
> >
> > For an internal project I used JodaTime, twas a dream.
> >
> > I have switched to using MappedLong along with Unix time for dates
> > now.
> >
> > ( hooray for ancedotes! )
> >
> > On Mar 31, 3:21 pm, Jorge Ortiz  wrote:
> >> I was on IRC trying to help Clemens with this. The name
> (MappedDateTime),
> >> targetSQLType (java.sql.Types.TIMESTAMP), and type (extends
> >> MappedField[java.util.Date, _]) of this class suggests millisecond
> precision
> >> (java.sql.Timestamp and java.util.Date have millisecond precision).
> However,
> >> methods jdbcFriendly and real_convertToJDBCFriendly use java.sql.Date,
> which
> >> has only day precision.
> >>
> >> If the intent is day precision, then calling the class DateTime is
> probably
> >> misleading. If the intent is millisecond precision, then we have a bug.
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> >> Which brings up the larger issue of the brokennes of the Java Date/Time
> API.
> >> Java 7 will hopefully be getting a newer/better one, but for those of us
> >> stuck on Java 5/6, Joda Time is much preferable to the native Date/Time
> API.
> >> It more clearly represents foundational concepts like instants (March
> 31,
> >> 2009 at 12:15.000pm UTC), partials (March 3 or 7:15pm), intervals (the
> space
> >> between two instants), durations (1000 milliseconds), periods (1 month),
> and
> >> chronologies (calendar systems). It's also completely immutable (oh, you
> >> didn't know java.util.Calendar isn't thread-safe? you're lucky to have
> never
> >> had to track down that bug).
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> >> Sigh... it's probably too big of a breaking change to rip out Java
> Date/Time
> >> from Mapper and Helpers and replace it with Joda Time, but one can
> dream...
> >>
> >> --j
> >>
> >> On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Clemens Oertel
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > While trying to figure out why my MappedDateTime fields get stored in
> >> > the DB with all the time info set to 0, I noticed the following:
> >>
> >> > MappedDateTime (v. 1.0) "claims" to be a TimeStamp: def targetSQLType
> >> > = Types.TIMESTAMP. However, it uses java.sql.Date for its JDBC-
> >> > friendly converted version, not java.sql.TimeStamp. If I read the
> >> > java.sql.Date documentation correctly, java.sql.Date does set all time
> >> > information to 0, since the SQL DATE type only stores dates, by no
> >> > times.
> >>
> >> > Any comment whether this might have something to do with me losing my
> >> > time would be appreciated.
> >>
> >> > Best,
> >> > Clemens
> > >
> >
>
> >
>

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[Lift] Re: MappedDateTime - Do we have a Date? Or is it a timestamp?

2009-03-31 Thread Kris Nuttycombe

I'm also using joda-time, and very pleased with it. In fact, I use it
in my Lift project - via JPA with the provided Hibernate extensions
for mapping of DateTime, Period, etc.

Kris

On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 1:54 PM, TylerWeir  wrote:
>
> For an internal project I used JodaTime, twas a dream.
>
> I have switched to using MappedLong along with Unix time for dates
> now.
>
> ( hooray for ancedotes! )
>
> On Mar 31, 3:21 pm, Jorge Ortiz  wrote:
>> I was on IRC trying to help Clemens with this. The name (MappedDateTime),
>> targetSQLType (java.sql.Types.TIMESTAMP), and type (extends
>> MappedField[java.util.Date, _]) of this class suggests millisecond precision
>> (java.sql.Timestamp and java.util.Date have millisecond precision). However,
>> methods jdbcFriendly and real_convertToJDBCFriendly use java.sql.Date, which
>> has only day precision.
>>
>> If the intent is day precision, then calling the class DateTime is probably
>> misleading. If the intent is millisecond precision, then we have a bug.
>>
>> 
>>
>> Which brings up the larger issue of the brokennes of the Java Date/Time API.
>> Java 7 will hopefully be getting a newer/better one, but for those of us
>> stuck on Java 5/6, Joda Time is much preferable to the native Date/Time API.
>> It more clearly represents foundational concepts like instants (March 31,
>> 2009 at 12:15.000pm UTC), partials (March 3 or 7:15pm), intervals (the space
>> between two instants), durations (1000 milliseconds), periods (1 month), and
>> chronologies (calendar systems). It's also completely immutable (oh, you
>> didn't know java.util.Calendar isn't thread-safe? you're lucky to have never
>> had to track down that bug).
>>
>> 
>>
>> Sigh... it's probably too big of a breaking change to rip out Java Date/Time
>> from Mapper and Helpers and replace it with Joda Time, but one can dream...
>>
>> --j
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Clemens Oertel
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > While trying to figure out why my MappedDateTime fields get stored in
>> > the DB with all the time info set to 0, I noticed the following:
>>
>> > MappedDateTime (v. 1.0) "claims" to be a TimeStamp: def targetSQLType
>> > = Types.TIMESTAMP. However, it uses java.sql.Date for its JDBC-
>> > friendly converted version, not java.sql.TimeStamp. If I read the
>> > java.sql.Date documentation correctly, java.sql.Date does set all time
>> > information to 0, since the SQL DATE type only stores dates, by no
>> > times.
>>
>> > Any comment whether this might have something to do with me losing my
>> > time would be appreciated.
>>
>> > Best,
>> > Clemens
> >
>

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[Lift] Re: MappedDateTime - Do we have a Date? Or is it a timestamp?

2009-03-31 Thread Timothy Perrett


> chronologies (calendar systems). It's also completely immutable (oh, you
> didn't know java.util.Calendar isn't thread-safe? you're lucky to have never
> had to track down that bug).

LOL!!! Its not thread safe!? Thats somewhat of an oversight isnt it...

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[Lift] Re: MappedDateTime - Do we have a Date? Or is it a timestamp?

2009-03-31 Thread TylerWeir

For an internal project I used JodaTime, twas a dream.

I have switched to using MappedLong along with Unix time for dates
now.

( hooray for ancedotes! )

On Mar 31, 3:21 pm, Jorge Ortiz  wrote:
> I was on IRC trying to help Clemens with this. The name (MappedDateTime),
> targetSQLType (java.sql.Types.TIMESTAMP), and type (extends
> MappedField[java.util.Date, _]) of this class suggests millisecond precision
> (java.sql.Timestamp and java.util.Date have millisecond precision). However,
> methods jdbcFriendly and real_convertToJDBCFriendly use java.sql.Date, which
> has only day precision.
>
> If the intent is day precision, then calling the class DateTime is probably
> misleading. If the intent is millisecond precision, then we have a bug.
>
> 
>
> Which brings up the larger issue of the brokennes of the Java Date/Time API.
> Java 7 will hopefully be getting a newer/better one, but for those of us
> stuck on Java 5/6, Joda Time is much preferable to the native Date/Time API.
> It more clearly represents foundational concepts like instants (March 31,
> 2009 at 12:15.000pm UTC), partials (March 3 or 7:15pm), intervals (the space
> between two instants), durations (1000 milliseconds), periods (1 month), and
> chronologies (calendar systems). It's also completely immutable (oh, you
> didn't know java.util.Calendar isn't thread-safe? you're lucky to have never
> had to track down that bug).
>
> 
>
> Sigh... it's probably too big of a breaking change to rip out Java Date/Time
> from Mapper and Helpers and replace it with Joda Time, but one can dream...
>
> --j
>
> On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Clemens Oertel
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > While trying to figure out why my MappedDateTime fields get stored in
> > the DB with all the time info set to 0, I noticed the following:
>
> > MappedDateTime (v. 1.0) "claims" to be a TimeStamp: def targetSQLType
> > = Types.TIMESTAMP. However, it uses java.sql.Date for its JDBC-
> > friendly converted version, not java.sql.TimeStamp. If I read the
> > java.sql.Date documentation correctly, java.sql.Date does set all time
> > information to 0, since the SQL DATE type only stores dates, by no
> > times.
>
> > Any comment whether this might have something to do with me losing my
> > time would be appreciated.
>
> > Best,
> > Clemens
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[Lift] Re: MappedDateTime - Do we have a Date? Or is it a timestamp?

2009-03-31 Thread Jorge Ortiz
I was on IRC trying to help Clemens with this. The name (MappedDateTime),
targetSQLType (java.sql.Types.TIMESTAMP), and type (extends
MappedField[java.util.Date, _]) of this class suggests millisecond precision
(java.sql.Timestamp and java.util.Date have millisecond precision). However,
methods jdbcFriendly and real_convertToJDBCFriendly use java.sql.Date, which
has only day precision.

If the intent is day precision, then calling the class DateTime is probably
misleading. If the intent is millisecond precision, then we have a bug.



Which brings up the larger issue of the brokennes of the Java Date/Time API.
Java 7 will hopefully be getting a newer/better one, but for those of us
stuck on Java 5/6, Joda Time is much preferable to the native Date/Time API.
It more clearly represents foundational concepts like instants (March 31,
2009 at 12:15.000pm UTC), partials (March 3 or 7:15pm), intervals (the space
between two instants), durations (1000 milliseconds), periods (1 month), and
chronologies (calendar systems). It's also completely immutable (oh, you
didn't know java.util.Calendar isn't thread-safe? you're lucky to have never
had to track down that bug).



Sigh... it's probably too big of a breaking change to rip out Java Date/Time
from Mapper and Helpers and replace it with Joda Time, but one can dream...

--j

On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Clemens Oertel
wrote:

>
> While trying to figure out why my MappedDateTime fields get stored in
> the DB with all the time info set to 0, I noticed the following:
>
> MappedDateTime (v. 1.0) "claims" to be a TimeStamp: def targetSQLType
> = Types.TIMESTAMP. However, it uses java.sql.Date for its JDBC-
> friendly converted version, not java.sql.TimeStamp. If I read the
> java.sql.Date documentation correctly, java.sql.Date does set all time
> information to 0, since the SQL DATE type only stores dates, by no
> times.
>
> Any comment whether this might have something to do with me losing my
> time would be appreciated.
>
> Best,
> Clemens
>
> >
>

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