[Lubuntu-desktop] About future development, the use of dbus and C++

2011-10-17 Thread PCMan
Hi everyone on this list,
I just passed my license exam yesterday. So that means I will have a little
more free time from now on.
I, however, still have an important presentation this week and I have to
prepare for it.
Since next week, I guess I'll have some time for LXDE development.
It's time to fix some old bugs and adopt some patches.

I'm now thinking about future development.
Since dbus support is now part of glib and nowadays dbus is widely adopted,
maybe it's time to replace our own hand-made IPC with dbus and make use of
dbus more in LXDE.
It's possible to use dbus inside menu-cache and in the session manager.
PCManFM might also use it for IPC and to provide some interfaces to other
applications.

The second issue is the use of C++ in LXDE. Currently we mainly use C and in
the future there might be vala.
Doing programming in pure C is quite inefficient and error-prone on memory
management sometimes.
In C++, things can be better encapsulated if it's used carefully.
There also exists some very high quality libraries, such as boost and some
tools provided by google.
Using C++ inside LXDE only introduces one additional runtime lib,
libstdc++6.so.
So actually I'm considering the possibility of using C++ in PCManFM.
Implement some new features with C++ will be much easier than doing it with
pure C.
With C++, the development can be more rapid and we can utilize many nice
existing libs.
Later, I'll try to use C++ inside PCManFM is feasible and will do some
experiments in git branches.
Of course, the program should be kept as fast as old versions and memory
usage cannot significantly increase.
Otherwise, I won't use it.

Cheers!
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Roadmap for Lubuntu 12.04

2011-10-17 Thread PCMan
That's OK.
PCManFM will support basic file search later and some work has been done
during last GSoC session, but first I have to fix some old bugs. The good
news is, I passed my license examination yesterday. So I can have more free
time now. The bad one is, I have an important presentation this week. So I
may get some time to fix the broken LXDE apps and adopt some patches since
next week.

On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 5:50 AM, Gabriel Salles wrote:

> I don't know if here is the best place to say this, but once (first of
> september of this year) I send an e-mail to Christian (the creator of Midori
> and Catfish) sending him a translation to Catfish, and he answered me this:
>
> "Hey Gabriel,
>
> I'm sorry to say Catfish is not being actively developed, and until
> somebody volunteers to do that there won't be any translation additions
> either.
>
> ciao,
> Christian"
>
> So maybe is better if we decide to use another "file searcher"
>
> Best regards,
>
> Gabriel Salles
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Calling for a Team-Work :)

2011-10-17 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hi,

Let me nail one thing to rest We, nor any other variant of ubuntu will
have a sub-forum on the main forum.

There is a simple reasoning behind it We share well over 90% of the same
stuff, the usage of the tags allows people to alert support people to know
of the 10% differences. An easy example would be one of the support guys
giving a new comer instructions and he says to start 'Terminal' to type some
stuff in, such as lspci. Obviously we use LXTerminal and the new person may
then have to reply back to and say he could not find 'Terminal', and would
LXTerminal do. Now the problem the user has is an issue that affects all
n00bs from time to time has a delay. In a 'dedicated' area, we lose all the
other people from the other flavours of *buntu, and we lose them. so, quite
simply, it is never going to happen. That is why
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal#Starting_a_Terminal exists.
But the use of tags ensures that the person giving help knows which of the
invocation commands to use. Any of the support people can help across the
different variants, but it is vital that we know which one the OP is using.

As I wander across wiki pages, I keep adding the lubuntu version to them. We
were told 'off the record' that we could start to add Lubuntu to all the
many pages where a difference in flavour of the *buntu made for different
instructions before we got our full adoption. There is no chance we can ever
catch them all as new pages are created daily, what we can and must do is
edit any pages we come across where lubuntu variant needs adding.

Regards,


Phill.



On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Ali Linx  wrote:

> Hello my friend and mentor and hope you don't mind to have a young crazy
> brother :P
>
> I think I should have been clear from beginning so there you go :)
> I'm NOT planning to CHANGE any current scheme or system whatsoever. Why?
> because, as you wrote, Roma wasn't built in one day. I just want to "focus"
> on something that will give us another plus. Users are sometime complaining
> why there is no sub-forum for lubuntu? why the support is so slow? etc etc.
> You know these stuff, I'm sure :)
> It's not that I want to prove to them how good we are; our actions speak
> louder than our words but I just want our team, Lubuntu Team (family) to be
> very much capable in everything and one thing specific: being fast. I know
> what you'll say about that :D
>
> I have no huge plan, it's a basic one. I'm currently working on:
>
> https://www.facebook.com/pages/LXDE/21251244425
> https://www.facebook.com/pages/lubuntu/105956559439428
> http://forum.lxde.org/
> and of course http://ubuntuforums.org
>
> I have made some friends over Ubuntu Forum (I'm so fast in that by the way
> :P) and I have asked them to team up with me and they agreed but as you
> know, life issues could make everyone busy and away from Linux and I totally
> understand that.
> Having that said, I thought to find more people to pop up more on the above
> 4 websites/pages and support the users. That is preciously why I have
> requested to be an admin on Lubuntu and LXDE FB Pages because for me, as a
> user, I'd love to see someone from the team is interacting and posting, etc.
> That will add more confident to them.
>
> I already started some topics on LXDE Forum which is all about Lubuntu.
> Two Guides so far, nothing much but also not bad :)
> Two feedback topics
> and willing to do more.
>
> I'm SO MUCH happy with what I'm doing and because I'm just a member of this
> family, I'd like to share my happiness with ALL of you.
>
> Again, no big plans at the moment.
>
> I'm aware of the tags and prefix. I use that when I do my search. I'm doing
> my best to reply Lubuntu Threads on UF as much as possible. I also see some
> other people who are not in our team but interested in Lubuntu and they are
> helping too.
>
> *Bottom Line:
> *All what I'm asking for is: Let's focus our work and be more organized
> and that will be done via some teams or even one team.
>
> For example: It's 4am in my time and 3 threads are pending. I could send a
> message to someone in the team who is online and he/she can pop up and help.
>
>
> Phill, I'll definitely follow your instructions and advice and that's why
> I'll log off now and go to eat :D
>
> Thank you so much for everything ... I'm so much happy here and I'll be
> around for a very long time hopefully :)
>
> Who would give you hard time except me? :P
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 4:03 AM, Phill Whiteside wrote:
>
>> Hi my young friend,
>>
>> the system we have on the main ubuntu was granted to us (the tags) long,
>> long before we became official. I'm not too sure what you have in mind but I
>> prefer to use the main forum area with the ability to add and search tags as
>> per https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation#How_to_help 
>> Lubuntu
>> had some good friends even back then, we asked people to allow Lubuntu to
>> avoid the 'chicken and egg' syndrome. 

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Rename LSC?

2011-10-17 Thread Chris
I didn't know the exact inner-workings of LSC, but with this explanation
also a +1 from me.

With metta, Chris

On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 00:57, Phill Whiteside  wrote:

> As ever, Julien, you give wise council. Again, as ever, you are minded the
> same as myself so your proposal gets a +1 from me.
>
> Regards,
>
> Phill.
>
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 11:01 PM, Julien Lavergne wrote:
>
>>  Le 10/17/2011 06:52 PM, Glenn de Groot a écrit :
>>
>> I think that if we rename Lubuntu Software Center to LXDE Software Center
>> or maybe something catchy, other distros and developers will join.
>>
>> LSC is still very tied to Ubuntu, using apt-daemon and app-install
>> directory, which are Ubuntu specific.
>> When LSC will migrate to AppStream project [1], maybe we can rename it.
>> But for now, this will cause more trouble than good things.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Julien Lavergne
>>
>> [1] http://distributions.freedesktop.org/wiki/AppStream
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Rename LSC?

2011-10-17 Thread Phill Whiteside
As ever, Julien, you give wise council. Again, as ever, you are minded the
same as myself so your proposal gets a +1 from me.

Regards,

Phill.

On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 11:01 PM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:

>  Le 10/17/2011 06:52 PM, Glenn de Groot a écrit :
>
> I think that if we rename Lubuntu Software Center to LXDE Software Center
> or maybe something catchy, other distros and developers will join.
>
> LSC is still very tied to Ubuntu, using apt-daemon and app-install
> directory, which are Ubuntu specific.
> When LSC will migrate to AppStream project [1], maybe we can rename it. But
> for now, this will cause more trouble than good things.
>
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne
>
> [1] http://distributions.freedesktop.org/wiki/AppStream
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu.net and screencasts

2011-10-17 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hi Mario,

Were you hosting these directly on lubuntu.net or were they just pointers to
a different area (I think it was the latter), if it is the former then I can
pop them on my server whilst the new hosting system is brought on-line and
update the help area of our wiki. If the latter then I can get the wiki
updated pretty quickly. In both cases I need to get the topics & links.

Regards,

Phill.


On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 10:37 PM, Gabriel Salles wrote:

> There are some people in Brazil asking me that too..
>
> Gabriel Salles
>
>
> 2011/10/17 vanyok 
>
>> Hello everybody,
>>
>> Just one short question about Lubuntu.net website.
>> There were a lot of valuable articles and screencasts. Is it possible
>> to get them all in one place as it was on site? Can we get them to
>> place on our site Lubuntu.ru (for sure with copyrights/copylefts,
>> links or whatever)?
>>
>> Thank you!
>> Best regs,
>> Ivan aka vanyok
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] YEAH!

2011-10-17 Thread Ali Linx
Nothing too seriously for sure but couldn't agree more about it's NICE :D

Not too far from #4 and who knows? maybe we'll reach better :)


On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 2:27 AM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:

> Le 10/15/2011 12:06 PM, Ali Linx a écrit :
> > http://i56.tinypic.com/zmcxsy.jpg
> >
> Usually behaviour after a release or big announcement. We are currently
> #5, and I think our best rank is #3 :)
> Still, it's not something to take too seriously ... but still nice :p
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] YEAH!

2011-10-17 Thread Julien Lavergne
Le 10/15/2011 12:06 PM, Ali Linx a écrit :
> http://i56.tinypic.com/zmcxsy.jpg
>
Usually behaviour after a release or big announcement. We are currently
#5, and I think our best rank is #3 :)
Still, it's not something to take too seriously ... but still nice :p

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Rename LSC?

2011-10-17 Thread Yorvyk
On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 22:35:34 +0200
Chris  wrote:

> A more ambiguous name will make it more adaptable for others. Something like
> Lightweight Software Center is indicative of it's nature without tying
> it unnecessarily to Lubuntu or LXDE for that matter. But that is just my 2c.
> 

LX Software Centre ?

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Rename LSC?

2011-10-17 Thread Julien Lavergne
Le 10/17/2011 06:52 PM, Glenn de Groot a écrit :
> I think that if we rename Lubuntu Software Center to LXDE Software
> Center or maybe something catchy, other distros and developers will join.
LSC is still very tied to Ubuntu, using apt-daemon and app-install
directory, which are Ubuntu specific.
When LSC will migrate to AppStream project [1], maybe we can rename it.
But for now, this will cause more trouble than good things.

Regards,
Julien Lavergne

[1] http://distributions.freedesktop.org/wiki/AppStream
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] notification-properties and notification-daemon

2011-10-17 Thread Ali Linx
Thanks again for your reply.
Shall I then communicate that information with them? in case some one else
will ask?

On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 1:56 AM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:

> Le 10/16/2011 11:44 PM, Ali Linx a écrit :
> > Thanks for your reply, Julien but what am I suppose to tell the users?
> > I mean, isn't there any other package we could have used or we can use
> > at the moment?
>


> If they want a more advanced notification system, they can install
> notify-osd, or xfce notification application.
> We can't avoid this type of upstream modifications some time,
> unfortunately.
>
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne
>



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] notification-properties and notification-daemon

2011-10-17 Thread Julien Lavergne
Le 10/16/2011 11:44 PM, Ali Linx a écrit :
> Thanks for your reply, Julien but what am I suppose to tell the users?
> I mean, isn't there any other package we could have used or we can use
> at the moment?
If they want a more advanced notification system, they can install
notify-osd, or xfce notification application.
We can't avoid this type of upstream modifications some time, unfortunately.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Roadmap for Lubuntu 12.04

2011-10-17 Thread Gabriel Salles
I don't know if here is the best place to say this, but once (first of
september of this year) I send an e-mail to Christian (the creator of Midori
and Catfish) sending him a translation to Catfish, and he answered me this:

"Hey Gabriel,

I'm sorry to say Catfish is not being actively developed, and until somebody
volunteers to do that there won't be any translation additions either.

ciao,
Christian"

So maybe is better if we decide to use another "file searcher"

Best regards,

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu.net and screencasts

2011-10-17 Thread Gabriel Salles
There are some people in Brazil asking me that too..

Gabriel Salles


2011/10/17 vanyok 

> Hello everybody,
>
> Just one short question about Lubuntu.net website.
> There were a lot of valuable articles and screencasts. Is it possible
> to get them all in one place as it was on site? Can we get them to
> place on our site Lubuntu.ru (for sure with copyrights/copylefts,
> links or whatever)?
>
> Thank you!
> Best regs,
> Ivan aka vanyok
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[Lubuntu-desktop] Roadmap for Lubuntu 12.04

2011-10-17 Thread Julien Lavergne
Hi,

We just released 11.10, but it also means that 12.04 development
started. It will be the first development cycle after adoption of
Lubuntu in Ubuntu family, which come with some consequences.

Firstly, we will have the same schedule than Ubuntu :
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PreciseReleaseSchedule.

Secondly, we can use UDS to discuss plans for 12.04, new features etc
... I would like to use this summit to decide our roadmap for the 12.04,
and take decisions we usually took later in the cycle, like new
applications by default, new features planned etc ... But, I still want
to discuss the differents topics on the mailing before the UDS, to have
input from everyones. For the record, UDS starts the 31 October, and
finishes the 5 November.

Personally, I have 3 topics in mind, and I started to write some notes
about them on a wiki page :
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/P-Plan

1. Optimizations :
 * Remove unnecessary depends (gconf, glade, other gnome old library ?)
 * Evaluate a first move to GTK3 (because there will be less maintenance
/ optimization on GTK2 now)
 * Optimize the theme

2. User experience :
 * Add missing features easy to implement and which make our users happy :)
 * Provide new shiny stuff (lubuntu-software-center, catfish ...)
 * Fix issues which are here since too much time (keymap switch,
screensaver ...)

3. Team Organisation :
 * Find a way to organize and coordinate our work
 * Find a way to welcome new members / contributors
 
Also, an important detail is that Ubuntu 12.04 will be an LTS version,
but Lubuntu will NOT be an LTS. The main reason is because LTS needs
support, update and security fixes for 3 years, which is not possible
for Lubuntu team (too much work). However, it should not stop us to make
12.04 the better release Lubuntu ever :)

If you have any other topics to mention, please speak now :) It's the
perfect moment for asking and discussion. But please, open a new topic
on the mailing list, with [12.04] in the title, so it will be easier to
follow the discussions.

Regards,
Julien Lavergne


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[Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu.net and screencasts

2011-10-17 Thread vanyok
Hello everybody,

Just one short question about Lubuntu.net website.
There were a lot of valuable articles and screencasts. Is it possible
to get them all in one place as it was on site? Can we get them to
place on our site Lubuntu.ru (for sure with copyrights/copylefts,
links or whatever)?

Thank you!
Best regs,
Ivan aka vanyok

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Rename LSC?

2011-10-17 Thread Chris
A more ambiguous name will make it more adaptable for others. Something like
Lightweight Software Center is indicative of it's nature without tying
it unnecessarily to Lubuntu or LXDE for that matter. But that is just my 2c.

With metta, Chris

On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 22:31,  wrote:

> I'm not a dev, but this sounds like a good idea and it embraces the spirit
> of open source programming.
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Rename LSC?

2011-10-17 Thread ohiomoto
I'm not a dev, but this sounds like a good idea and it embraces the spirit of open source programming.Tim-- Sent from my HP TouchPad ___
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Rename LSC?

2011-10-17 Thread Ali Linx
Let's just KISS (Keep It Simple and Short) guys :)



On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 10:15 PM, Gabriel Salles wrote:

> Why not make the same software with 2 names?? Lubuntu Software Center and
> LXDE Software Center. Mozilla made this... Firefox and Abrowser..
> Then everybody will be happy =]
>
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2011-10-17 Thread Launchpad Buildd System

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Rename LSC?

2011-10-17 Thread Gabriel Salles
Why not make the same software with 2 names?? Lubuntu Software Center and
LXDE Software Center. Mozilla made this... Firefox and Abrowser..
Then everybody will be happy =]

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Rename LSC?

2011-10-17 Thread Jeremy Bicha
On 17 October 2011 13:55, Ali Linx  wrote:
> Hello Glenn,
>
> I think that would be easier if Lubuntu is not yet an official variant of
> Ubuntu. Now, it's an official variant, I think (NOT sure) we need to be as
> close as possible to Canonical's Approaches and style but perhaps I'm wrong
> :)

No, Lubuntu is not suddenly run by Canonical just because it's now an
official variant. I don't believe Kubuntu has ever used the Ubuntu
Software Center; they current use Muon. Kubuntu never switched the
window buttons to the left and so on...

Jeremy Bicha

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Rename LSC?

2011-10-17 Thread James Gifford
Something to keep in mind is that it's not just Lubuntu, it's LXDE - so
anything that happens needs to also get approved at that level (for some
things at least, not sure about all of them).
Cheers,
James Gifford


On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Ali Linx  wrote:

> Hello Glenn,
>
> I think that would be easier if Lubuntu is not yet an official variant of
> Ubuntu. Now, it's an official variant, I think (NOT sure) we need to be as
> close as possible to Canonical's Approaches and style but perhaps I'm wrong
> :)
>
> IMHO, what could be much better is having our own applications. I mean,
> LXDE Applications. Instead of using GNOME or XFCE Power Management, we
> develop our own application. Instead of using GNOME-Player, we create our
> own, etc.
>
> As for other developers from other projects, I'm not that sure they will
> involve themselves. As far as I know, everyone is busy with his/her own
> project.
>
> I'm trying to find some free time to come up with new ideas for LXDE but
> not at the moment, I'm busy with too many things.
>
> Thanks and keep it up :)
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 8:52 PM, Glenn de Groot <
> glenn_de_gr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>  Hello everyone,
>>
>> today I came up with something.
>> I think that if we rename Lubuntu Software Center to LXDE Software Center
>> or maybe something catchy, other distros and developers will join.
>> Other LXDE distro´s probably won´t switch to something Lubuntu branded,
>> which is a shame.
>> We might have Openbox, XFCE and Fluxbox joining if we come up with a
>> catchy name, Midori isn´t named Gwebkit-browser for a reason, I guess. :P
>>
>> Thoughts? :P
>>
>> -Glenn de Groot
>>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Rename LSC?

2011-10-17 Thread Ali Linx
Hello Glenn,

I think that would be easier if Lubuntu is not yet an official variant of
Ubuntu. Now, it's an official variant, I think (NOT sure) we need to be as
close as possible to Canonical's Approaches and style but perhaps I'm wrong
:)

IMHO, what could be much better is having our own applications. I mean, LXDE
Applications. Instead of using GNOME or XFCE Power Management, we develop
our own application. Instead of using GNOME-Player, we create our own, etc.

As for other developers from other projects, I'm not that sure they will
involve themselves. As far as I know, everyone is busy with his/her own
project.

I'm trying to find some free time to come up with new ideas for LXDE but not
at the moment, I'm busy with too many things.

Thanks and keep it up :)



On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 8:52 PM, Glenn de Groot
wrote:

>  Hello everyone,
>
> today I came up with something.
> I think that if we rename Lubuntu Software Center to LXDE Software Center
> or maybe something catchy, other distros and developers will join.
> Other LXDE distro´s probably won´t switch to something Lubuntu branded,
> which is a shame.
> We might have Openbox, XFCE and Fluxbox joining if we come up with a catchy
> name, Midori isn´t named Gwebkit-browser for a reason, I guess. :P
>
> Thoughts? :P
>
> -Glenn de Groot
>
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[Lubuntu-desktop] Rename LSC?

2011-10-17 Thread Glenn de Groot

Hello everyone,
today I came up with something.I think that if we rename Lubuntu Software 
Center to LXDE Software Center or maybe something catchy, other distros and 
developers will join.Other LXDE distro´s probably won´t switch to something 
Lubuntu branded, which is a shame.We might have Openbox, XFCE and Fluxbox 
joining if we come up with a catchy name, Midori isn´t named Gwebkit-browser 
for a reason, I guess. :P
Thoughts? :P
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Calling for a Team-Work :)

2011-10-17 Thread Ali Linx
Hello my friend and mentor and hope you don't mind to have a young crazy
brother :P

I think I should have been clear from beginning so there you go :)
I'm NOT planning to CHANGE any current scheme or system whatsoever. Why?
because, as you wrote, Roma wasn't built in one day. I just want to "focus"
on something that will give us another plus. Users are sometime complaining
why there is no sub-forum for lubuntu? why the support is so slow? etc etc.
You know these stuff, I'm sure :)
It's not that I want to prove to them how good we are; our actions speak
louder than our words but I just want our team, Lubuntu Team (family) to be
very much capable in everything and one thing specific: being fast. I know
what you'll say about that :D

I have no huge plan, it's a basic one. I'm currently working on:

https://www.facebook.com/pages/LXDE/21251244425
https://www.facebook.com/pages/lubuntu/105956559439428
http://forum.lxde.org/
and of course http://ubuntuforums.org

I have made some friends over Ubuntu Forum (I'm so fast in that by the way
:P) and I have asked them to team up with me and they agreed but as you
know, life issues could make everyone busy and away from Linux and I totally
understand that.
Having that said, I thought to find more people to pop up more on the above
4 websites/pages and support the users. That is preciously why I have
requested to be an admin on Lubuntu and LXDE FB Pages because for me, as a
user, I'd love to see someone from the team is interacting and posting, etc.
That will add more confident to them.

I already started some topics on LXDE Forum which is all about Lubuntu.
Two Guides so far, nothing much but also not bad :)
Two feedback topics
and willing to do more.

I'm SO MUCH happy with what I'm doing and because I'm just a member of this
family, I'd like to share my happiness with ALL of you.

Again, no big plans at the moment.

I'm aware of the tags and prefix. I use that when I do my search. I'm doing
my best to reply Lubuntu Threads on UF as much as possible. I also see some
other people who are not in our team but interested in Lubuntu and they are
helping too.

*Bottom Line:
*All what I'm asking for is: Let's focus our work and be more organized and
that will be done via some teams or even one team.

For example: It's 4am in my time and 3 threads are pending. I could send a
message to someone in the team who is online and he/she can pop up and help.


Phill, I'll definitely follow your instructions and advice and that's why
I'll log off now and go to eat :D

Thank you so much for everything ... I'm so much happy here and I'll be
around for a very long time hopefully :)

Who would give you hard time except me? :P



On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 4:03 AM, Phill Whiteside  wrote:

> Hi my young friend,
>
> the system we have on the main ubuntu was granted to us (the tags) long,
> long before we became official. I'm not too sure what you have in mind but I
> prefer to use the main forum area with the ability to add and search tags as
> per https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation#How_to_help 
> Lubuntu
> had some good friends even back then, we asked people to allow Lubuntu to
> avoid the 'chicken and egg' syndrome. I know and I'm sure the others do, we
> were shown every courtesy and assistance. Things that should only be done
> for 'official' variants were done for Lubuntu.
>
> I'll give you the instruction one of my trainers gave me. Do NOT burn out,
> you are no use to us if you burn out and leave. Rome was not built in a day
> & Lubuntu has done very well from starting at about 9.04 to full acceptance
> at 11.10.
>
> Take your time, but do ensure you eat and sleep!
>
> Phill.
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 11:44 PM, Ali Linx  wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> A friend and a mentor to me has advised me many times now to slow down and
>> take care but ... Linux is the cure for my issues so ... enough drama, let's
>> rock :)
>> One last email and I'm off. I did watch a movie for a change today though
>> :P
>>
>> Guys and girls, long story short. I was and still very active on Ubuntu
>> Forum. Now, Lubuntu became Official (YES!) and I'm sure more new threads
>> whether on Ubuntu Forum OR LXDE Forum (where I'm a moderator there) will be
>> created. I'm very much able to handle all that but I do confess and admit
>> that I don't know anything yet. My request is simple.
>>
>> I need some people who already have an account on Ubuntu Forum to team up
>> with me. I'm planning for something. I'll hold it for now. I need to know
>> who is IN. I don't mind to be alone on this but you guys are my family and I
>> hate to do things alone, I do love team work. I told that to 4 new friends
>> on IRC recently.
>>
>> I'm on Google, and you have other links on my signature. Whatever way you
>> want to use to contact me, just do it.
>>
>> I'll be waiting for your reply for a week. Take your time :)
>>
>> Why is all that? it's because the more support users will find, the better
>> and the