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* Indoor navigation of malls and airports seems interesting, but I’ve not seen a way to determine in the iOS 11 Maps app which venues have the required infrastructure, and how detail it is. If anyone has tips on how to get this working wiht VoiceOver, please do share how. * scan document in Notes unfortunately does not do OCR, but instead creates inaccessible image documents. I was hoping that with this and the markup docs feature would be accessible wiht VoiceOver, so we could interact with more docs/forms. * The Misspelled Words rotor item seems interesting, but I’ve not successfully got it to work. Hope it reduces the amount of spelling issues that VoiceOver users have. * OverThere iOS app, which is the modern Talking Signs is great for orientation and “LookAround”. > On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 3:46 PM Simon Fogarty wrote: > Yeah it's not like they could miss the towers off in the distance. > > > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados > Sent: Saturday, 1 July 2017 4:19 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - > CNET > > Simon, the terrorists don’t need or care about GPS. When you’re a terrorist > you’re not going for the super high tech high end solution. You’re going for > the biggest bang for the smallest buck. They didn’t need GPS for 9-11, just > about 20 bucks worth of box cutters. This relates back to something my > father who was a Marine told me. During the Vietnam era we had started to > use very high tech weapons like advanced infrared night vision, smart bombs > and such. The Vietnamese resistance would fool our night vision systems by > leaving metal out during the day so it got super heated in the sun. Then, at > night they would scatter large chunks of super hot metal around which would > confuse our night vision and make the pilots think they were looking at camp > fires not decoys. We’d bomb the hell out of an empty patch of jungle while > the enemy operated free and clear while we were distracted. Same deal here > it’s all about the low tech solution to a high tech adversary. > > > > > On Jun 29, 2017, at 11:42 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote: > > > > Think of what the terrorists would do if they could use military grade > > GPS, Would open a new door of problems for everyone. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten > > Sent: Thursday, 29 June 2017 11:26 AM > > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > > Subject: Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the > > iPhone - CNET > > > > You got that right about the military signals. Not going to happen. > > Mary > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Jun 28, 2017, at 4:19 PM, Scott Granados > >> wrote: > >> > >> I had the exact same thought. I wonder if they use the gyro or something > >> to help. Plus you have the regular deviation in the GPS signal depending > >> on signal conditions. > >> I wish we could get access to the military encrypted signals, sub meter > >> way finding would be nice. > >> > >>> On Jun 28, 2017, at 7:11 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > >>> > >>> I remember that portable receiver as well. I will be curious if you > >>> try it. The problem I see with this approach is that the actual GPS > >>> Mark, so to speak, is often some ways away from the actual building > >>> you're trying to go to. It might be in a parking lot for instance. > >>> Or so I have heard from the makers of nearby explorer and Seeing Eye > >>> GPS. The folks who decide where exactly on the map or whatever it is > >>> that GPS is keying on our more interested in cars getting to where > >>> they're going and pedestrians > >>> > >>> Sent from my iPhone > >>> > >>>> On Jun 28, 2017, at 4:00 PM, Scott Granados > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Good ol Smith-Kettlewell, I remember building some of their projects > >>>> when I was in school. I will definitely check out this app. > >>>> The physical talking signs unit was very simple but effective. You > >>>> pointed a small IR receiver that converted the IR signal to speech and > >>>> the clearer the sound the more closely aligned to the correct direction > >>>> you were. They put transmitters ov
RE: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET
Yeah it's not like they could miss the towers off in the distance. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Saturday, 1 July 2017 4:19 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET Simon, the terrorists don’t need or care about GPS. When you’re a terrorist you’re not going for the super high tech high end solution. You’re going for the biggest bang for the smallest buck. They didn’t need GPS for 9-11, just about 20 bucks worth of box cutters. This relates back to something my father who was a Marine told me. During the Vietnam era we had started to use very high tech weapons like advanced infrared night vision, smart bombs and such. The Vietnamese resistance would fool our night vision systems by leaving metal out during the day so it got super heated in the sun. Then, at night they would scatter large chunks of super hot metal around which would confuse our night vision and make the pilots think they were looking at camp fires not decoys. We’d bomb the hell out of an empty patch of jungle while the enemy operated free and clear while we were distracted. Same deal here it’s all about the low tech solution to a high tech adversary. > On Jun 29, 2017, at 11:42 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote: > > Think of what the terrorists would do if they could use military grade > GPS, Would open a new door of problems for everyone. > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten > Sent: Thursday, 29 June 2017 11:26 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the > iPhone - CNET > > You got that right about the military signals. Not going to happen. > Mary > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 28, 2017, at 4:19 PM, Scott Granados wrote: >> >> I had the exact same thought. I wonder if they use the gyro or something to >> help. Plus you have the regular deviation in the GPS signal depending on >> signal conditions. >> I wish we could get access to the military encrypted signals, sub meter >> way finding would be nice. >> >>> On Jun 28, 2017, at 7:11 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >>> >>> I remember that portable receiver as well. I will be curious if you >>> try it. The problem I see with this approach is that the actual GPS >>> Mark, so to speak, is often some ways away from the actual building >>> you're trying to go to. It might be in a parking lot for instance. >>> Or so I have heard from the makers of nearby explorer and Seeing Eye >>> GPS. The folks who decide where exactly on the map or whatever it is >>> that GPS is keying on our more interested in cars getting to where >>> they're going and pedestrians >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Jun 28, 2017, at 4:00 PM, Scott Granados >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Good ol Smith-Kettlewell, I remember building some of their projects when >>>> I was in school. I will definitely check out this app. >>>> The physical talking signs unit was very simple but effective. You >>>> pointed a small IR receiver that converted the IR signal to speech and the >>>> clearer the sound the more closely aligned to the correct direction you >>>> were. They put transmitters over the tracks at the train station with the >>>> track number for example or over the Subway sub shop sign directly over >>>> the door. >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Jun 27, 2017, at 5:30 PM, David Chittenden >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Smith-Kettlewell, the developers of Talking Signs, put out an app called >>>>> Over There, which works on the iPhone like the Talking Signs receiver. It >>>>> uses GPS and the Google Places database. >>>>> >>>>> Kind regards, >>>>> >>>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >>>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com >>>>> Mobile: +61 488 988 936 >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On 27/06/2017, at 23:55, Scott Granados wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Wow, in door navigation, that’s a very cool feature if in fact it’s >>>>>> included. How will this work off bluetooth beacons or something >>>>>> different? I used to like the talking signs system that was
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Simon, the terrorists don’t need or care about GPS. When you’re a terrorist you’re not going for the super high tech high end solution. You’re going for the biggest bang for the smallest buck. They didn’t need GPS for 9-11, just about 20 bucks worth of box cutters. This relates back to something my father who was a Marine told me. During the Vietnam era we had started to use very high tech weapons like advanced infrared night vision, smart bombs and such. The Vietnamese resistance would fool our night vision systems by leaving metal out during the day so it got super heated in the sun. Then, at night they would scatter large chunks of super hot metal around which would confuse our night vision and make the pilots think they were looking at camp fires not decoys. We’d bomb the hell out of an empty patch of jungle while the enemy operated free and clear while we were distracted. Same deal here it’s all about the low tech solution to a high tech adversary. > On Jun 29, 2017, at 11:42 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote: > > Think of what the terrorists would do if they could use military grade GPS, > Would open a new door of problems for everyone. > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten > Sent: Thursday, 29 June 2017 11:26 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - > CNET > > You got that right about the military signals. Not going to happen. > Mary > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 28, 2017, at 4:19 PM, Scott Granados wrote: >> >> I had the exact same thought. I wonder if they use the gyro or something to >> help. Plus you have the regular deviation in the GPS signal depending on >> signal conditions. >> I wish we could get access to the military encrypted signals, sub meter >> way finding would be nice. >> >>> On Jun 28, 2017, at 7:11 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >>> >>> I remember that portable receiver as well. I will be curious if you try it. >>> The problem I see with this approach is that the actual GPS Mark, so to >>> speak, is often some ways away from the actual building you're trying to go >>> to. It might be in a parking lot for instance. Or so I have heard from the >>> makers of nearby explorer and Seeing Eye GPS. The folks who decide where >>> exactly on the map or whatever it is that GPS is keying on our more >>> interested in cars getting to where they're going and pedestrians >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Jun 28, 2017, at 4:00 PM, Scott Granados >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Good ol Smith-Kettlewell, I remember building some of their projects when >>>> I was in school. I will definitely check out this app. >>>> The physical talking signs unit was very simple but effective. You >>>> pointed a small IR receiver that converted the IR signal to speech and the >>>> clearer the sound the more closely aligned to the correct direction you >>>> were. They put transmitters over the tracks at the train station with the >>>> track number for example or over the Subway sub shop sign directly over >>>> the door. >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Jun 27, 2017, at 5:30 PM, David Chittenden >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Smith-Kettlewell, the developers of Talking Signs, put out an app called >>>>> Over There, which works on the iPhone like the Talking Signs receiver. It >>>>> uses GPS and the Google Places database. >>>>> >>>>> Kind regards, >>>>> >>>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >>>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com >>>>> Mobile: +61 488 988 936 >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On 27/06/2017, at 23:55, Scott Granados wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Wow, in door navigation, that’s a very cool feature if in fact it’s >>>>>> included. How will this work off bluetooth beacons or something >>>>>> different? I used to like the talking signs system that was deployed in >>>>>> several public transit and similar areas in San Francisco. Used very >>>>>> simple analog Infrared signals but was fairly effective. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jun 26, 2017, at 10:36 PM, Jonathan Cohn >>>>>>> wrote: >>>
Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET
i love that when you dicktate on IOS 11 the keybord goes away so you don't knock letters. there is a key button on the right that you tap to go through all of them. love the new missspelled words option in the VO roter witch is also on the mac beta. > On 30 Jun 2017, at 1:42 pm, Simon Fogarty wrote: > > Think of what the terrorists would do if they could use military grade GPS, > Would open a new door of problems for everyone. > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten > Sent: Thursday, 29 June 2017 11:26 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - > CNET > > You got that right about the military signals. Not going to happen. > Mary > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 28, 2017, at 4:19 PM, Scott Granados wrote: >> >> I had the exact same thought. I wonder if they use the gyro or something to >> help. Plus you have the regular deviation in the GPS signal depending on >> signal conditions. >> I wish we could get access to the military encrypted signals, sub meter >> way finding would be nice. >> >>> On Jun 28, 2017, at 7:11 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >>> >>> I remember that portable receiver as well. I will be curious if you try it. >>> The problem I see with this approach is that the actual GPS Mark, so to >>> speak, is often some ways away from the actual building you're trying to go >>> to. It might be in a parking lot for instance. Or so I have heard from the >>> makers of nearby explorer and Seeing Eye GPS. The folks who decide where >>> exactly on the map or whatever it is that GPS is keying on our more >>> interested in cars getting to where they're going and pedestrians >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Jun 28, 2017, at 4:00 PM, Scott Granados >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Good ol Smith-Kettlewell, I remember building some of their projects when >>>> I was in school. I will definitely check out this app. >>>> The physical talking signs unit was very simple but effective. You >>>> pointed a small IR receiver that converted the IR signal to speech and the >>>> clearer the sound the more closely aligned to the correct direction you >>>> were. They put transmitters over the tracks at the train station with the >>>> track number for example or over the Subway sub shop sign directly over >>>> the door. >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Jun 27, 2017, at 5:30 PM, David Chittenden >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Smith-Kettlewell, the developers of Talking Signs, put out an app called >>>>> Over There, which works on the iPhone like the Talking Signs receiver. It >>>>> uses GPS and the Google Places database. >>>>> >>>>> Kind regards, >>>>> >>>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >>>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com >>>>> Mobile: +61 488 988 936 >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On 27/06/2017, at 23:55, Scott Granados wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Wow, in door navigation, that’s a very cool feature if in fact it’s >>>>>> included. How will this work off bluetooth beacons or something >>>>>> different? I used to like the talking signs system that was deployed in >>>>>> several public transit and similar areas in San Francisco. Used very >>>>>> simple analog Infrared signals but was fairly effective. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jun 26, 2017, at 10:36 PM, Jonathan Cohn >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This was one sighted person describing what they found in the new beta. >>>>>>> Just because accessibility wasn't mentioned doesn't mean that nothing >>>>>>> was added to accessibility. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I did catch something on the keynote that I have heard nobody talk >>>>>>> about. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Specifically indoor navigation with support for several malls and >>>>>>> airports. I highly expect Tysons Cornerr, a mall that is only two miles >>>>>>> from my house , to be a good candidate.
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Think of what the terrorists would do if they could use military grade GPS, Would open a new door of problems for everyone. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Thursday, 29 June 2017 11:26 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET You got that right about the military signals. Not going to happen. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 28, 2017, at 4:19 PM, Scott Granados wrote: > > I had the exact same thought. I wonder if they use the gyro or something to > help. Plus you have the regular deviation in the GPS signal depending on > signal conditions. >I wish we could get access to the military encrypted signals, sub meter > way finding would be nice. > >> On Jun 28, 2017, at 7:11 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >> >> I remember that portable receiver as well. I will be curious if you try it. >> The problem I see with this approach is that the actual GPS Mark, so to >> speak, is often some ways away from the actual building you're trying to go >> to. It might be in a parking lot for instance. Or so I have heard from the >> makers of nearby explorer and Seeing Eye GPS. The folks who decide where >> exactly on the map or whatever it is that GPS is keying on our more >> interested in cars getting to where they're going and pedestrians >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jun 28, 2017, at 4:00 PM, Scott Granados >>> wrote: >>> >>> Good ol Smith-Kettlewell, I remember building some of their projects when I >>> was in school. I will definitely check out this app. >>> The physical talking signs unit was very simple but effective. You >>> pointed a small IR receiver that converted the IR signal to speech and the >>> clearer the sound the more closely aligned to the correct direction you >>> were. They put transmitters over the tracks at the train station with the >>> track number for example or over the Subway sub shop sign directly over the >>> door. >>> >>> >>>> On Jun 27, 2017, at 5:30 PM, David Chittenden >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Smith-Kettlewell, the developers of Talking Signs, put out an app called >>>> Over There, which works on the iPhone like the Talking Signs receiver. It >>>> uses GPS and the Google Places database. >>>> >>>> Kind regards, >>>> >>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com >>>> Mobile: +61 488 988 936 >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On 27/06/2017, at 23:55, Scott Granados wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Wow, in door navigation, that’s a very cool feature if in fact it’s >>>>> included. How will this work off bluetooth beacons or something >>>>> different? I used to like the talking signs system that was deployed in >>>>> several public transit and similar areas in San Francisco. Used very >>>>> simple analog Infrared signals but was fairly effective. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Jun 26, 2017, at 10:36 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> This was one sighted person describing what they found in the new beta. >>>>>> Just because accessibility wasn't mentioned doesn't mean that nothing >>>>>> was added to accessibility. >>>>>> >>>>>> I did catch something on the keynote that I have heard nobody talk about. >>>>>> >>>>>> Specifically indoor navigation with support for several malls and >>>>>> airports. I highly expect Tysons Cornerr, a mall that is only two miles >>>>>> from my house , to be a good candidate. Not only is the mall packed >>>>>> every weekend and most evenings, it was also the site of the first Apple >>>>>> Retail store. So I am hoping that the indoor navigation helps me verify >>>>>> if I have passed Nordstroms or still have 200 feet to go. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best Wishes, >>>>>> >>>>>> Jonathan >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>>>> Visionaries list. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of t
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Oh I wouldn’t be so sure. There’s a lot of hobbyistss out there who will try to and once successful crack and publish their findings. Remember the whole Clipper project was undone for Uncle Sam by a lowly intern at Bell Labs who was cracking clipper while getting coffee.:) That or the Military will come up with something so much better for it’s own uses they will release their old tech for commercial use. Let’s not forget the old GPS signal used to have a fudge factor injected to deliberately detune the measurement capabilities of civilian applications. Stopped a long time ago but as time passes and more competition happens in the space who knows. A lot of global positioning systems are in the works or under way now. The Chinese, Russians, US, India, South America, Europeans and Middle East just to name a few. > On Jun 28, 2017, at 7:25 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > > You got that right about the military signals. Not going to happen. > Mary > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 28, 2017, at 4:19 PM, Scott Granados wrote: >> >> I had the exact same thought. I wonder if they use the gyro or something to >> help. Plus you have the regular deviation in the GPS signal depending on >> signal conditions. >> I wish we could get access to the military encrypted signals, sub meter >> way finding would be nice. >> >>> On Jun 28, 2017, at 7:11 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >>> >>> I remember that portable receiver as well. I will be curious if you try it. >>> The problem I see with this approach is that the actual GPS Mark, so to >>> speak, is often some ways away from the actual building you're trying to go >>> to. It might be in a parking lot for instance. Or so I have heard from the >>> makers of nearby explorer and Seeing Eye GPS. The folks who decide where >>> exactly on the map or whatever it is that GPS is keying on our more >>> interested in cars getting to where they're going and pedestrians >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> On Jun 28, 2017, at 4:00 PM, Scott Granados wrote: Good ol Smith-Kettlewell, I remember building some of their projects when I was in school. I will definitely check out this app. The physical talking signs unit was very simple but effective. You pointed a small IR receiver that converted the IR signal to speech and the clearer the sound the more closely aligned to the correct direction you were. They put transmitters over the tracks at the train station with the track number for example or over the Subway sub shop sign directly over the door. > On Jun 27, 2017, at 5:30 PM, David Chittenden > wrote: > > Smith-Kettlewell, the developers of Talking Signs, put out an app called > Over There, which works on the iPhone like the Talking Signs receiver. It > uses GPS and the Google Places database. > > Kind regards, > > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA > Email: dchitten...@gmail.com > Mobile: +61 488 988 936 > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 27/06/2017, at 23:55, Scott Granados wrote: >> >> Wow, in door navigation, that’s a very cool feature if in fact it’s >> included. How will this work off bluetooth beacons or something >> different? I used to like the talking signs system that was deployed in >> several public transit and similar areas in San Francisco. Used very >> simple analog Infrared signals but was fairly effective. >> >> >>> On Jun 26, 2017, at 10:36 PM, Jonathan Cohn >>> wrote: >>> >>> This was one sighted person describing what they found in the new beta. >>> Just because accessibility wasn't mentioned doesn't mean that nothing >>> was added to accessibility. >>> >>> I did catch something on the keynote that I have heard nobody talk >>> about. >>> >>> Specifically indoor navigation with support for several malls and >>> airports. I highly expect Tysons Cornerr, a mall that is only two miles >>> from my house , to be a good candidate. Not only is the mall packed >>> every weekend and most evenings, it was also the site of the first >>> Apple Retail store. So I am hoping that the indoor navigation helps me >>> verify if I have passed Nordstroms or still have 200 feet to go. >>> >>> Best Wishes, >>> >>> Jonathan >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, >>> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact >>> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list >>> itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark >>> at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara >>> Quinn - you can reach
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Hi Mary. Okay let me be more exact, if you take a picture, okay if you like me go out to something and take maybe 40 different pictures, it is really nice that your iPhone tries to explain to you what is on them, and it is closer to being right on the money more often than not. I think you are meaning O C R? The iPhone don’t tell me it is a black chevy parked at day time, at least not its inbuilt, other programs does however. Sometimes i think we need to take a step back, and be like, how would my life be if i did not have this device? Best, Sandie On 6/28/17, David Chittenden wrote: > Yes, I had one of the receivers for a few years whilst living in SF. > > The iPhone becomes the receiver. The marked GPS coordinates becomes the > transmitter. The clear speech occurs when the iPhone is directly aligned, > and becomes static as the iPhone's alignment changes in relation to the > coordinates (a virtual transmitter). > > Kind regards, > > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA > Email: dchitten...@gmail.com > Mobile: +61 488 988 936 > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 29/06/2017, at 09:00, Scott Granados wrote: >> >> Good ol Smith-Kettlewell, I remember building some of their projects when >> I was in school. I will definitely check out this app. >>The physical talking signs unit was very simple but effective. You >> pointed a small IR receiver that converted the IR signal to speech and the >> clearer the sound the more closely aligned to the correct direction you >> were. They put transmitters over the tracks at the train station with the >> track number for example or over the Subway sub shop sign directly over >> the door. >> >> >>> On Jun 27, 2017, at 5:30 PM, David Chittenden >>> wrote: >>> >>> Smith-Kettlewell, the developers of Talking Signs, put out an app called >>> Over There, which works on the iPhone like the Talking Signs receiver. It >>> uses GPS and the Google Places database. >>> >>> Kind regards, >>> >>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com >>> Mobile: +61 488 988 936 >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> On 27/06/2017, at 23:55, Scott Granados wrote: Wow, in door navigation, that’s a very cool feature if in fact it’s included. How will this work off bluetooth beacons or something different? I used to like the talking signs system that was deployed in several public transit and similar areas in San Francisco. Used very simple analog Infrared signals but was fairly effective. > On Jun 26, 2017, at 10:36 PM, Jonathan Cohn > wrote: > > This was one sighted person describing what they found in the new beta. > Just because accessibility wasn't mentioned doesn't mean that nothing > was added to accessibility. > > I did catch something on the keynote that I have heard nobody talk > about. > > Specifically indoor navigation with support for several malls and > airports. I highly expect Tysons Cornerr, a mall that is only two miles > from my house , to be a good candidate. Not only is the mall packed > every weekend and most evenings, it was also the site of the first > Apple Retail store. So I am hoping that the indoor navigation helps me > verify if I have passed Nordstroms or still have 200 feet to go. > > Best Wishes, > > Jonathan > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac > Visionaries list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, > or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact > the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list > itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark > at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara > Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and
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Yes, I had one of the receivers for a few years whilst living in SF. The iPhone becomes the receiver. The marked GPS coordinates becomes the transmitter. The clear speech occurs when the iPhone is directly aligned, and becomes static as the iPhone's alignment changes in relation to the coordinates (a virtual transmitter). Kind regards, David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +61 488 988 936 Sent from my iPhone > On 29/06/2017, at 09:00, Scott Granados wrote: > > Good ol Smith-Kettlewell, I remember building some of their projects when I > was in school. I will definitely check out this app. >The physical talking signs unit was very simple but effective. You > pointed a small IR receiver that converted the IR signal to speech and the > clearer the sound the more closely aligned to the correct direction you were. > They put transmitters over the tracks at the train station with the track > number for example or over the Subway sub shop sign directly over the door. > > >> On Jun 27, 2017, at 5:30 PM, David Chittenden wrote: >> >> Smith-Kettlewell, the developers of Talking Signs, put out an app called >> Over There, which works on the iPhone like the Talking Signs receiver. It >> uses GPS and the Google Places database. >> >> Kind regards, >> >> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com >> Mobile: +61 488 988 936 >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On 27/06/2017, at 23:55, Scott Granados wrote: >>> >>> Wow, in door navigation, that’s a very cool feature if in fact it’s >>> included. How will this work off bluetooth beacons or something different? >>> I used to like the talking signs system that was deployed in several >>> public transit and similar areas in San Francisco. Used very simple analog >>> Infrared signals but was fairly effective. >>> >>> On Jun 26, 2017, at 10:36 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote: This was one sighted person describing what they found in the new beta. Just because accessibility wasn't mentioned doesn't mean that nothing was added to accessibility. I did catch something on the keynote that I have heard nobody talk about. Specifically indoor navigation with support for several malls and airports. I highly expect Tysons Cornerr, a mall that is only two miles from my house , to be a good candidate. Not only is the mall packed every weekend and most evenings, it was also the site of the first Apple Retail store. So I am hoping that the indoor navigation helps me verify if I have passed Nordstroms or still have 200 feet to go. Best Wishes, Jonathan -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >>> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - >>> you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> The fo
RE: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET
Thanks mary, for the explanation of this one. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 4:11 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET I remember that portable receiver as well. I will be curious if you try it. The problem I see with this approach is that the actual GPS Mark, so to speak, is often some ways away from the actual building you're trying to go to. It might be in a parking lot for instance. Or so I have heard from the makers of nearby explorer and Seeing Eye GPS. The folks who decide where exactly on the map or whatever it is that GPS is keying on our more interested in cars getting to where they're going and pedestrians Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 28, 2017, at 4:00 PM, Scott Granados wrote: > > Good ol Smith-Kettlewell, I remember building some of their projects when I > was in school. I will definitely check out this app. >The physical talking signs unit was very simple but effective. You > pointed a small IR receiver that converted the IR signal to speech and the > clearer the sound the more closely aligned to the correct direction you were. > They put transmitters over the tracks at the train station with the track > number for example or over the Subway sub shop sign directly over the door. > > >> On Jun 27, 2017, at 5:30 PM, David Chittenden wrote: >> >> Smith-Kettlewell, the developers of Talking Signs, put out an app called >> Over There, which works on the iPhone like the Talking Signs receiver. It >> uses GPS and the Google Places database. >> >> Kind regards, >> >> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com >> Mobile: +61 488 988 936 >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On 27/06/2017, at 23:55, Scott Granados wrote: >>> >>> Wow, in door navigation, that’s a very cool feature if in fact it’s >>> included. How will this work off bluetooth beacons or something different? >>> I used to like the talking signs system that was deployed in several >>> public transit and similar areas in San Francisco. Used very simple analog >>> Infrared signals but was fairly effective. >>> >>> >>>> On Jun 26, 2017, at 10:36 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote: >>>> >>>> This was one sighted person describing what they found in the new beta. >>>> Just because accessibility wasn't mentioned doesn't mean that nothing was >>>> added to accessibility. >>>> >>>> I did catch something on the keynote that I have heard nobody talk about. >>>> >>>> Specifically indoor navigation with support for several malls and >>>> airports. I highly expect Tysons Cornerr, a mall that is only two miles >>>> from my house , to be a good candidate. Not only is the mall packed every >>>> weekend and most evenings, it was also the site of the first Apple Retail >>>> store. So I am hoping that the indoor navigation helps me verify if I have >>>> passed Nordstroms or still have 200 feet to go. >>>> >>>> Best Wishes, >>>> >>>> Jonathan >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>> Visionaries list. >>>> >>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>> >>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark >>>> at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara >>>> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>>> >>>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET
You got that right about the military signals. Not going to happen. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 28, 2017, at 4:19 PM, Scott Granados wrote: > > I had the exact same thought. I wonder if they use the gyro or something to > help. Plus you have the regular deviation in the GPS signal depending on > signal conditions. >I wish we could get access to the military encrypted signals, sub meter > way finding would be nice. > >> On Jun 28, 2017, at 7:11 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >> >> I remember that portable receiver as well. I will be curious if you try it. >> The problem I see with this approach is that the actual GPS Mark, so to >> speak, is often some ways away from the actual building you're trying to go >> to. It might be in a parking lot for instance. Or so I have heard from the >> makers of nearby explorer and Seeing Eye GPS. The folks who decide where >> exactly on the map or whatever it is that GPS is keying on our more >> interested in cars getting to where they're going and pedestrians >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jun 28, 2017, at 4:00 PM, Scott Granados >>> wrote: >>> >>> Good ol Smith-Kettlewell, I remember building some of their projects when I >>> was in school. I will definitely check out this app. >>> The physical talking signs unit was very simple but effective. You >>> pointed a small IR receiver that converted the IR signal to speech and the >>> clearer the sound the more closely aligned to the correct direction you >>> were. They put transmitters over the tracks at the train station with the >>> track number for example or over the Subway sub shop sign directly over the >>> door. >>> >>> On Jun 27, 2017, at 5:30 PM, David Chittenden wrote: Smith-Kettlewell, the developers of Talking Signs, put out an app called Over There, which works on the iPhone like the Talking Signs receiver. It uses GPS and the Google Places database. Kind regards, David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +61 488 988 936 Sent from my iPhone > On 27/06/2017, at 23:55, Scott Granados wrote: > > Wow, in door navigation, that’s a very cool feature if in fact it’s > included. How will this work off bluetooth beacons or something > different? I used to like the talking signs system that was deployed in > several public transit and similar areas in San Francisco. Used very > simple analog Infrared signals but was fairly effective. > > >> On Jun 26, 2017, at 10:36 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote: >> >> This was one sighted person describing what they found in the new beta. >> Just because accessibility wasn't mentioned doesn't mean that nothing >> was added to accessibility. >> >> I did catch something on the keynote that I have heard nobody talk about. >> >> Specifically indoor navigation with support for several malls and >> airports. I highly expect Tysons Cornerr, a mall that is only two miles >> from my house , to be a good candidate. Not only is the mall packed >> every weekend and most evenings, it was also the site of the first Apple >> Retail store. So I am hoping that the indoor navigation helps me verify >> if I have passed Nordstroms or still have 200 feet to go. >> >> Best Wishes, >> >> Jonathan >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark >> at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara >> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac > Visionaries list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac
Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET
I had the exact same thought. I wonder if they use the gyro or something to help. Plus you have the regular deviation in the GPS signal depending on signal conditions. I wish we could get access to the military encrypted signals, sub meter way finding would be nice. > On Jun 28, 2017, at 7:11 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > > I remember that portable receiver as well. I will be curious if you try it. > The problem I see with this approach is that the actual GPS Mark, so to > speak, is often some ways away from the actual building you're trying to go > to. It might be in a parking lot for instance. Or so I have heard from the > makers of nearby explorer and Seeing Eye GPS. The folks who decide where > exactly on the map or whatever it is that GPS is keying on our more > interested in cars getting to where they're going and pedestrians > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 28, 2017, at 4:00 PM, Scott Granados wrote: >> >> Good ol Smith-Kettlewell, I remember building some of their projects when I >> was in school. I will definitely check out this app. >> The physical talking signs unit was very simple but effective. You >> pointed a small IR receiver that converted the IR signal to speech and the >> clearer the sound the more closely aligned to the correct direction you >> were. They put transmitters over the tracks at the train station with the >> track number for example or over the Subway sub shop sign directly over the >> door. >> >> >>> On Jun 27, 2017, at 5:30 PM, David Chittenden wrote: >>> >>> Smith-Kettlewell, the developers of Talking Signs, put out an app called >>> Over There, which works on the iPhone like the Talking Signs receiver. It >>> uses GPS and the Google Places database. >>> >>> Kind regards, >>> >>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com >>> Mobile: +61 488 988 936 >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> On 27/06/2017, at 23:55, Scott Granados wrote: Wow, in door navigation, that’s a very cool feature if in fact it’s included. How will this work off bluetooth beacons or something different? I used to like the talking signs system that was deployed in several public transit and similar areas in San Francisco. Used very simple analog Infrared signals but was fairly effective. > On Jun 26, 2017, at 10:36 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote: > > This was one sighted person describing what they found in the new beta. > Just because accessibility wasn't mentioned doesn't mean that nothing was > added to accessibility. > > I did catch something on the keynote that I have heard nobody talk about. > > Specifically indoor navigation with support for several malls and > airports. I highly expect Tysons Cornerr, a mall that is only two miles > from my house , to be a good candidate. Not only is the mall packed every > weekend and most evenings, it was also the site of the first Apple Retail > store. So I am hoping that the indoor navigation helps me verify if I > have passed Nordstroms or still have 200 feet to go. > > Best Wishes, > > Jonathan > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac > Visionaries list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark > at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara > Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http
Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET
I remember that portable receiver as well. I will be curious if you try it. The problem I see with this approach is that the actual GPS Mark, so to speak, is often some ways away from the actual building you're trying to go to. It might be in a parking lot for instance. Or so I have heard from the makers of nearby explorer and Seeing Eye GPS. The folks who decide where exactly on the map or whatever it is that GPS is keying on our more interested in cars getting to where they're going and pedestrians Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 28, 2017, at 4:00 PM, Scott Granados wrote: > > Good ol Smith-Kettlewell, I remember building some of their projects when I > was in school. I will definitely check out this app. >The physical talking signs unit was very simple but effective. You > pointed a small IR receiver that converted the IR signal to speech and the > clearer the sound the more closely aligned to the correct direction you were. > They put transmitters over the tracks at the train station with the track > number for example or over the Subway sub shop sign directly over the door. > > >> On Jun 27, 2017, at 5:30 PM, David Chittenden wrote: >> >> Smith-Kettlewell, the developers of Talking Signs, put out an app called >> Over There, which works on the iPhone like the Talking Signs receiver. It >> uses GPS and the Google Places database. >> >> Kind regards, >> >> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com >> Mobile: +61 488 988 936 >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On 27/06/2017, at 23:55, Scott Granados wrote: >>> >>> Wow, in door navigation, that’s a very cool feature if in fact it’s >>> included. How will this work off bluetooth beacons or something different? >>> I used to like the talking signs system that was deployed in several >>> public transit and similar areas in San Francisco. Used very simple analog >>> Infrared signals but was fairly effective. >>> >>> On Jun 26, 2017, at 10:36 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote: This was one sighted person describing what they found in the new beta. Just because accessibility wasn't mentioned doesn't mean that nothing was added to accessibility. I did catch something on the keynote that I have heard nobody talk about. Specifically indoor navigation with support for several malls and airports. I highly expect Tysons Cornerr, a mall that is only two miles from my house , to be a good candidate. Not only is the mall packed every weekend and most evenings, it was also the site of the first Apple Retail store. So I am hoping that the indoor navigation helps me verify if I have passed Nordstroms or still have 200 feet to go. Best Wishes, Jonathan -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >>> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - >>> you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisi
Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET
Good ol Smith-Kettlewell, I remember building some of their projects when I was in school. I will definitely check out this app. The physical talking signs unit was very simple but effective. You pointed a small IR receiver that converted the IR signal to speech and the clearer the sound the more closely aligned to the correct direction you were. They put transmitters over the tracks at the train station with the track number for example or over the Subway sub shop sign directly over the door. > On Jun 27, 2017, at 5:30 PM, David Chittenden wrote: > > Smith-Kettlewell, the developers of Talking Signs, put out an app called Over > There, which works on the iPhone like the Talking Signs receiver. It uses GPS > and the Google Places database. > > Kind regards, > > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA > Email: dchitten...@gmail.com > Mobile: +61 488 988 936 > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 27/06/2017, at 23:55, Scott Granados wrote: >> >> Wow, in door navigation, that’s a very cool feature if in fact it’s >> included. How will this work off bluetooth beacons or something different? >> I used to like the talking signs system that was deployed in several public >> transit and similar areas in San Francisco. Used very simple analog >> Infrared signals but was fairly effective. >> >> >>> On Jun 26, 2017, at 10:36 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote: >>> >>> This was one sighted person describing what they found in the new beta. >>> Just because accessibility wasn't mentioned doesn't mean that nothing was >>> added to accessibility. >>> >>> I did catch something on the keynote that I have heard nobody talk about. >>> >>> Specifically indoor navigation with support for several malls and airports. >>> I highly expect Tysons Cornerr, a mall that is only two miles from my house >>> , to be a good candidate. Not only is the mall packed every weekend and >>> most evenings, it was also the site of the first Apple Retail store. So I >>> am hoping that the indoor navigation helps me verify if I have passed >>> Nordstroms or still have 200 feet to go. >>> >>> Best Wishes, >>> >>> Jonathan >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >>> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - >>> you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you >> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you > can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisio
Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET
Smith-Kettlewell, the developers of Talking Signs, put out an app called Over There, which works on the iPhone like the Talking Signs receiver. It uses GPS and the Google Places database. Kind regards, David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +61 488 988 936 Sent from my iPhone > On 27/06/2017, at 23:55, Scott Granados wrote: > > Wow, in door navigation, that’s a very cool feature if in fact it’s included. > How will this work off bluetooth beacons or something different? I used to > like the talking signs system that was deployed in several public transit and > similar areas in San Francisco. Used very simple analog Infrared signals but > was fairly effective. > > >> On Jun 26, 2017, at 10:36 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote: >> >> This was one sighted person describing what they found in the new beta. Just >> because accessibility wasn't mentioned doesn't mean that nothing was added >> to accessibility. >> >> I did catch something on the keynote that I have heard nobody talk about. >> >> Specifically indoor navigation with support for several malls and airports. >> I highly expect Tysons Cornerr, a mall that is only two miles from my house >> , to be a good candidate. Not only is the mall packed every weekend and most >> evenings, it was also the site of the first Apple Retail store. So I am >> hoping that the indoor navigation helps me verify if I have passed >> Nordstroms or still have 200 feet to go. >> >> Best Wishes, >> >> Jonathan >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you >> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you > can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET
;>>>>> Gary, I think your way out of line here. I think they do care about >>>>>>> accessibility. I know they have an accessibility team. And they're >>>>>>> still ahead of the other side of the fence in some very important >>>>>>> ways, >>>>>>> at least for me. Why do you think I still use my iPhone for most all >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> my email? >>>>>>> Mary >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jun 26, 2017, at 5:58 PM, gary-melconian >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Mary, you are forgetting, apple does not care about you any more. >>>>>>>> They >>>>>>>> will build product charge an darm and a leg . fi you want it you >>>>>>>> wwill >>>>>>>> buy it if not then you wont. That’s the attitude of apple lately. So >>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>> wold not bbe surprised that they will not bother to work on >>>>>>>> accessibility any more. Wahthe point if they are to get a few >>>>>>>> customrers to upgrade in the long run. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -Original Message- >>>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten >>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 5:06 PM >>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the >>>>>>>> iPhone - CNET >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Well, if I'm understanding this correctly, I have to say I'm >>>>>>>> disappointed about the scanning in the PDF. Yet another excuse to >>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>> a not editable text in a PDF file. Very sad. Apple, if you care >>>>>>>> about >>>>>>>> excess ability, you'll change this. >>>>>>>> Mary >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Jun 26, 2017, at 4:26 PM, M. Taylor wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> CNET News - Monday, June 26, 2017 at 1:01 PM iOS 11 public beta: >>>>>>>>> What >>>>>>>>> it does for the iPhone - CNET The iPhone 8 could end up being an >>>>>>>>> amazing, transformative 10th-anniversary iPhone. At first glance, >>>>>>>>> iOS >>>>>>>>> 11 doesn't seem quite so ambitious. It's more of a series of >>>>>>>>> targeted >>>>>>>>> upgrades, with some of them being downright fantastic. >>>>>>>>> Apple's newest version of its operating system for iPhones and >>>>>>>>> iPads >>>>>>>>> doesn't formally arrive until later this year, but it's here in >>>>>>>>> public >>>>>>>>> beta form now. You can install it on your own iPads and iPhones, if >>>>>>>>> you dare. Don't do so on your primary device, however, only >>>>>>>>> experiment >>>>>>>>> with it on a secondary device, and be ready for plenty of bugs. >>>>>>>>> Betas >>>>>>>>> do weird things sometimes and App Store apps aren't optimized for >>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>> yet anyway. >>>>>>>>> I've already been using it for a few days, testing it on an iPhone >>>>>>>>> 7 >>>>>>>>> Plus (for this story) and a new 10.5-inch iPad Pro (to see all the >>>>>>>>> extra features it adds on the iPad). With the caveat that this is a >>>>>>>>> beta -- and not a feature-complete one at that -- here are my first >>>>>>>>> impressions. >>>>>>>>> The killer features: >>>>>>>
Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET
If I had enough iDevices I would. But I am looking for all those undocumented commands that Apple is uh, "unaware" of. Apple needs to clean up the current OSs first. (tongue in cheek) From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 6/27/2017 6:52 AM, Scott Granados wrote: Or better yet, install the beta and find out for yourself. It’s well worth it I think. On Jun 26, 2017, at 9:56 PM, E.T. wrote: Mary, Why not just wait and see how iOS 11 develops into a mature OS? You are basing your sentiments on one article written by a sighted person. Its simply way too early to be disappointed. Maybe I am too pragmatic for my own good. And I bet the bible thumpers are already gearing up to proclaim the end is coming on August 21st. (smiles) Point is, the end is not coming, and iOS 11 will certainly make some people crazy when they lose their old 32bit apps. But I expect there will be some wonderful new things for us too. From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 6/26/2017 6:43 PM, Mary Otten wrote: Gary, I think your way out of line here. I think they do care about accessibility. I know they have an accessibility team. And they're still ahead of the other side of the fence in some very important ways, at least for me. Why do you think I still use my iPhone for most all of my email? Mary Sent from my iPhone On Jun 26, 2017, at 5:58 PM, gary-melconian wrote: Mary, you are forgetting, apple does not care about you any more. They will build product charge an darm and a leg . fi you want it you wwill buy it if not then you wont. That’s the attitude of apple lately. So I wold not bbe surprised that they will not bother to work on accessibility any more. Wahthe point if they are to get a few customrers to upgrade in the long run. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 5:06 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET Well, if I'm understanding this correctly, I have to say I'm disappointed about the scanning in the PDF. Yet another excuse to have a not editable text in a PDF file. Very sad. Apple, if you care about excess ability, you'll change this. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Jun 26, 2017, at 4:26 PM, M. Taylor wrote: CNET News - Monday, June 26, 2017 at 1:01 PM iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET The iPhone 8 could end up being an amazing, transformative 10th-anniversary iPhone. At first glance, iOS 11 doesn't seem quite so ambitious. It's more of a series of targeted upgrades, with some of them being downright fantastic. Apple's newest version of its operating system for iPhones and iPads doesn't formally arrive until later this year, but it's here in public beta form now. You can install it on your own iPads and iPhones, if you dare. Don't do so on your primary device, however, only experiment with it on a secondary device, and be ready for plenty of bugs. Betas do weird things sometimes and App Store apps aren't optimized for it yet anyway. I've already been using it for a few days, testing it on an iPhone 7 Plus (for this story) and a new 10.5-inch iPad Pro (to see all the extra features it adds on the iPad). With the caveat that this is a beta -- and not a feature-complete one at that -- here are my first impressions. The killer features: You can pluck the best shots from Live Photos When Live Photos first launched in 2015, they seemed clever but gimmicky. My brother-in-law asked me back then, can Live Photo pick another shot to grab a moment you thought you missed? It couldn't before, but it can now. Editing a Live Photo now allows any of the shots to become the "primary photo." Missed your kid's smile? Maybe you didn't. It's now a time machine for snapshots and a backup plan. I'm never turning it off after the iOS 11 upgrade. Added GIF-like loop effects and a nice long exposure trick are great too, but nothing beats editable shots. Pick your best shot. Sarah Tew/CNET A one-page Control Center The iPhone's handy swipe-up panel sprawled into a weird multi-page monster with iOS 10, but it fits on one pane in iOS 11. New features are added, too, and shortcuts to key apps can be added or removed like widgets. Nice adds are Notes, Voice Memo and a great Apple TV remote tool built-in. I can keep my lost Apple TV remote wedged i
Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET
Wow, in door navigation, that’s a very cool feature if in fact it’s included. How will this work off bluetooth beacons or something different? I used to like the talking signs system that was deployed in several public transit and similar areas in San Francisco. Used very simple analog Infrared signals but was fairly effective. > On Jun 26, 2017, at 10:36 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote: > > This was one sighted person describing what they found in the new beta. Just > because accessibility wasn't mentioned doesn't mean that nothing was added to > accessibility. > > I did catch something on the keynote that I have heard nobody talk about. > > Specifically indoor navigation with support for several malls and airports. I > highly expect Tysons Cornerr, a mall that is only two miles from my house , > to be a good candidate. Not only is the mall packed every weekend and most > evenings, it was also the site of the first Apple Retail store. So I am > hoping that the indoor navigation helps me verify if I have passed Nordstroms > or still have 200 feet to go. > > Best Wishes, > > Jonathan > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you > can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET
Or better yet, install the beta and find out for yourself. It’s well worth it I think. > On Jun 26, 2017, at 9:56 PM, E.T. wrote: > > Mary, > Why not just wait and see how iOS 11 develops into a mature OS? You are > basing your sentiments on one article written by a sighted person. Its simply > way too early to be disappointed. > > Maybe I am too pragmatic for my own good. And I bet the bible thumpers are > already gearing up to proclaim the end is coming on August 21st. (smiles) > > Point is, the end is not coming, and iOS 11 will certainly make some people > crazy when they lose their old 32bit apps. But I expect there will be some > wonderful new things for us too. > > From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . > "God for you is where you sweep away all the > mysteries of the world, all the challenges to > our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off > and say God did it." --Carl Sagan > E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com > > On 6/26/2017 6:43 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >> Gary, I think your way out of line here. I think they do care about >> accessibility. I know they have an accessibility team. And they're still >> ahead of the other side of the fence in some very important ways, at least >> for me. Why do you think I still use my iPhone for most all of my email? >> Mary >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jun 26, 2017, at 5:58 PM, gary-melconian wrote: >>> >>> Mary, you are forgetting, apple does not care about you any more. They will >>> build product charge an darm and a leg . fi you want it you wwill buy it if >>> not then you wont. That’s the attitude of apple lately. So I wold not bbe >>> surprised that they will not bother to work on accessibility any more. >>> Wahthe point if they are to get a few customrers to upgrade in the long >>> run. >>> >>> -Original Message----- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten >>> Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 5:06 PM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone >>> - CNET >>> >>> Well, if I'm understanding this correctly, I have to say I'm disappointed >>> about the scanning in the PDF. Yet another excuse to have a not editable >>> text in a PDF file. Very sad. Apple, if you care about excess ability, >>> you'll change this. >>> Mary >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Jun 26, 2017, at 4:26 PM, M. Taylor wrote: >>>> >>>> CNET News - Monday, June 26, 2017 at 1:01 PM iOS 11 public beta: What >>>> it does for the iPhone - CNET The iPhone 8 could end up being an >>>> amazing, transformative 10th-anniversary iPhone. At first glance, iOS >>>> 11 doesn't seem quite so ambitious. It's more of a series of targeted >>>> upgrades, with some of them being downright fantastic. >>>> Apple's newest version of its operating system for iPhones and iPads >>>> doesn't formally arrive until later this year, but it's here in public >>>> beta form now. You can install it on your own iPads and iPhones, if >>>> you dare. Don't do so on your primary device, however, only experiment >>>> with it on a secondary device, and be ready for plenty of bugs. Betas >>>> do weird things sometimes and App Store apps aren't optimized for it yet >>>> anyway. >>>> I've already been using it for a few days, testing it on an iPhone 7 >>>> Plus (for this story) and a new 10.5-inch iPad Pro (to see all the >>>> extra features it adds on the iPad). With the caveat that this is a >>>> beta -- and not a feature-complete one at that -- here are my first >>>> impressions. >>>> The killer features: >>>> You can pluck the best shots from Live Photos When Live Photos first >>>> launched in 2015, they seemed clever but gimmicky. My brother-in-law >>>> asked me back then, can Live Photo pick another shot to grab a moment >>>> you thought you missed? It couldn't before, but it can now. Editing a >>>> Live Photo now allows any of the shots to become the "primary photo." >>>> Missed your kid's smile? Maybe you didn't. It's now a time machine for >>>> snapshots and a backup plan. I'm never turning it off after the iOS 11 >>>> upgrade. Added
Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET
Not to mention, they hire a lot of blind and disabled. Not just in engineering but in all areas of the company including customer facing positions. That’s something to get behind. > On Jun 26, 2017, at 9:43 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > > Gary, I think your way out of line here. I think they do care about > accessibility. I know they have an accessibility team. And they're still > ahead of the other side of the fence in some very important ways, at least > for me. Why do you think I still use my iPhone for most all of my email? > Mary > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 26, 2017, at 5:58 PM, gary-melconian wrote: >> >> Mary, you are forgetting, apple does not care about you any more. They will >> build product charge an darm and a leg . fi you want it you wwill buy it if >> not then you wont. That’s the attitude of apple lately. So I wold not bbe >> surprised that they will not bother to work on accessibility any more. >> Wahthe point if they are to get a few customrers to upgrade in the long >> run. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten >> Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 5:06 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - >> CNET >> >> Well, if I'm understanding this correctly, I have to say I'm disappointed >> about the scanning in the PDF. Yet another excuse to have a not editable >> text in a PDF file. Very sad. Apple, if you care about excess ability, >> you'll change this. >> Mary >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jun 26, 2017, at 4:26 PM, M. Taylor wrote: >>> >>> CNET News - Monday, June 26, 2017 at 1:01 PM iOS 11 public beta: What >>> it does for the iPhone - CNET The iPhone 8 could end up being an >>> amazing, transformative 10th-anniversary iPhone. At first glance, iOS >>> 11 doesn't seem quite so ambitious. It's more of a series of targeted >>> upgrades, with some of them being downright fantastic. >>> Apple's newest version of its operating system for iPhones and iPads >>> doesn't formally arrive until later this year, but it's here in public >>> beta form now. You can install it on your own iPads and iPhones, if >>> you dare. Don't do so on your primary device, however, only experiment >>> with it on a secondary device, and be ready for plenty of bugs. Betas >>> do weird things sometimes and App Store apps aren't optimized for it yet >>> anyway. >>> I've already been using it for a few days, testing it on an iPhone 7 >>> Plus (for this story) and a new 10.5-inch iPad Pro (to see all the >>> extra features it adds on the iPad). With the caveat that this is a >>> beta -- and not a feature-complete one at that -- here are my first >>> impressions. >>> The killer features: >>> You can pluck the best shots from Live Photos When Live Photos first >>> launched in 2015, they seemed clever but gimmicky. My brother-in-law >>> asked me back then, can Live Photo pick another shot to grab a moment >>> you thought you missed? It couldn't before, but it can now. Editing a >>> Live Photo now allows any of the shots to become the "primary photo." >>> Missed your kid's smile? Maybe you didn't. It's now a time machine for >>> snapshots and a backup plan. I'm never turning it off after the iOS 11 >>> upgrade. Added GIF-like loop effects and a nice long exposure trick >>> are great too, but nothing beats editable shots. >>> >>> Pick your best shot. >>> Sarah Tew/CNET >>> A one-page Control Center >>> The iPhone's handy swipe-up panel sprawled into a weird multi-page >>> monster with iOS 10, but it fits on one pane in iOS 11. New features >>> are added, too, and shortcuts to key apps can be added or removed like >>> widgets. Nice adds are Notes, Voice Memo and a great Apple TV remote >>> tool built-in. I can keep my lost Apple TV remote wedged in the sofa >>> permanently. Still, it could have added even more. Control Center >>> doesn't use 3D Touch as much as I thought it would to deep-dive further in >>> settings. But, hey, it's progress. >>> >>> Control Center has sub-sections, now. >>> Sarah Tew/CNET >>> Screen recording >>> It's not going to be for everyone, but it
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Oh Gary I don’t buy that at all. You don’t become the world’s most successful company beating out even the energy magnates by not listening to your customers. If anything I like the risk taking of Apple. They aren’t afraid to try things. They have made many controversial moves over the years and they usually end up on the right side of them. Whether it was dropping the floppy drive, dropping the CD ROM, dropping the headphone jack, dropping built in ethernet and on and on they take risks and some pay off. > On Jun 26, 2017, at 8:58 PM, gary-melconian wrote: > > Mary, you are forgetting, apple does not care about you any more. They will > build product charge an darm and a leg . fi you want it you wwill buy it if > not then you wont. That’s the attitude of apple lately. So I wold not bbe > surprised that they will not bother to work on accessibility any more. Wahthe > point if they are to get a few customrers to upgrade in the long run. > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten > Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 5:06 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - > CNET > > Well, if I'm understanding this correctly, I have to say I'm disappointed > about the scanning in the PDF. Yet another excuse to have a not editable text > in a PDF file. Very sad. Apple, if you care about excess ability, you'll > change this. > Mary > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 26, 2017, at 4:26 PM, M. Taylor wrote: >> >> CNET News - Monday, June 26, 2017 at 1:01 PM iOS 11 public beta: What >> it does for the iPhone - CNET The iPhone 8 could end up being an >> amazing, transformative 10th-anniversary iPhone. At first glance, iOS >> 11 doesn't seem quite so ambitious. It's more of a series of targeted >> upgrades, with some of them being downright fantastic. >> Apple's newest version of its operating system for iPhones and iPads >> doesn't formally arrive until later this year, but it's here in public >> beta form now. You can install it on your own iPads and iPhones, if >> you dare. Don't do so on your primary device, however, only experiment >> with it on a secondary device, and be ready for plenty of bugs. Betas >> do weird things sometimes and App Store apps aren't optimized for it yet >> anyway. >> I've already been using it for a few days, testing it on an iPhone 7 >> Plus (for this story) and a new 10.5-inch iPad Pro (to see all the >> extra features it adds on the iPad). With the caveat that this is a >> beta -- and not a feature-complete one at that -- here are my first >> impressions. >> The killer features: >> You can pluck the best shots from Live Photos When Live Photos first >> launched in 2015, they seemed clever but gimmicky. My brother-in-law >> asked me back then, can Live Photo pick another shot to grab a moment >> you thought you missed? It couldn't before, but it can now. Editing a >> Live Photo now allows any of the shots to become the "primary photo." >> Missed your kid's smile? Maybe you didn't. It's now a time machine for >> snapshots and a backup plan. I'm never turning it off after the iOS 11 >> upgrade. Added GIF-like loop effects and a nice long exposure trick >> are great too, but nothing beats editable shots. >> >> Pick your best shot. >> Sarah Tew/CNET >> A one-page Control Center >> The iPhone's handy swipe-up panel sprawled into a weird multi-page >> monster with iOS 10, but it fits on one pane in iOS 11. New features >> are added, too, and shortcuts to key apps can be added or removed like >> widgets. Nice adds are Notes, Voice Memo and a great Apple TV remote >> tool built-in. I can keep my lost Apple TV remote wedged in the sofa >> permanently. Still, it could have added even more. Control Center >> doesn't use 3D Touch as much as I thought it would to deep-dive further in >> settings. But, hey, it's progress. >> >> Control Center has sub-sections, now. >> Sarah Tew/CNET >> Screen recording >> It's not going to be for everyone, but it's so easy to start recording >> what you do on your iPhone, even add voice-over commentary and share as a >> video. >> How-to videos and self-help sites are going to benefit tremendously. >> Maybe I'd use this to show my mom how to adjust her phone settings the >> next time she calls -- I could just email the video. >> Marking up
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Thanks for that, But I think I'll wait for beta 12 to come out next years. a -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Harry Bell Sent: Tuesday, 27 June 2017 10:46 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET Beware when updating to beta 12: for example the keyboards do not work properly on the screen and the symbols keyboard is not available altogether! > On 27 Jun 2017, at 10:13, Simon Fogarty wrote: > > Thanks Mark, > > Nice low down on what's to come. > > Might be crazy and go update my only iphone > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor > Sent: Tuesday, 27 June 2017 11:27 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone > - CNET > > CNET News - Monday, June 26, 2017 at 1:01 PM iOS 11 public beta: What it does > for the iPhone - CNET The iPhone 8 could end up being an amazing, > transformative 10th-anniversary iPhone. At first glance, iOS 11 doesn't seem > quite so ambitious. It's more of a series of targeted upgrades, with some of > them being downright fantastic. > Apple's newest version of its operating system for iPhones and iPads doesn't > formally arrive until later this year, but it's here in public beta form now. > You can install it on your own iPads and iPhones, if you dare. Don't do so on > your primary device, however, only experiment with it on a secondary device, > and be ready for plenty of bugs. Betas do weird things sometimes and App > Store apps aren't optimized for it yet anyway. > I've already been using it for a few days, testing it on an iPhone 7 Plus > (for this story) and a new 10.5-inch iPad Pro (to see all the extra features > it adds on the iPad). With the caveat that this is a beta -- and not a > feature-complete one at that -- here are my first impressions. > The killer features: > You can pluck the best shots from Live Photos When Live Photos first launched > in 2015, they seemed clever but gimmicky. My brother-in-law asked me back > then, can Live Photo pick another shot to grab a moment you thought you > missed? It couldn't before, but it can now. Editing a Live Photo now allows > any of the shots to become the "primary photo." > Missed your kid's smile? Maybe you didn't. It's now a time machine for > snapshots and a backup plan. I'm never turning it off after the iOS 11 > upgrade. Added GIF-like loop effects and a nice long exposure trick are great > too, but nothing beats editable shots. > > Pick your best shot. > Sarah Tew/CNET > A one-page Control Center > The iPhone's handy swipe-up panel sprawled into a weird multi-page monster > with iOS 10, but it fits on one pane in iOS 11. New features are added, too, > and shortcuts to key apps can be added or removed like widgets. Nice adds are > Notes, Voice Memo and a great Apple TV remote tool built-in. I can keep my > lost Apple TV remote wedged in the sofa permanently. Still, it could have > added even more. Control Center doesn't use 3D Touch as much as I thought it > would to deep-dive further in settings. But, hey, it's progress. > > Control Center has sub-sections, now. > Sarah Tew/CNET > Screen recording > It's not going to be for everyone, but it's so easy to start recording what > you do on your iPhone, even add voice-over commentary and share as a video. > How-to videos and self-help sites are going to benefit tremendously. Maybe > I'd use this to show my mom how to adjust her phone settings the next time > she calls -- I could just email the video. > Marking up (almost) anything > The next time you want to share what you see on your iPhone (or iPad), > remember that screenshots (home plus the power button together) now launch a > markup tool that lets you scribble or highlight anything. Well, almost > anything... movies and protected videos ended up blacked out (on iOS 10, that > doesn't happen). Circle a weird comment, add a note with your finger. > Safari has a "markup as PDF" feature that does the same thing. It'll be great > for Twitter or Facebook. In a similar vein, PDFs are easy to make and even > add signatures to. > A built-in scanner in Notes > Apple's Notes app keeps getting serious upgrades, pushing it further into > Evernote country. Tables can be added in iOS 11, and there's also a scanning > tool to add receipts or other documents. It does a pretty good job stretchin
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Beware when updating to beta 12: for example the keyboards do not work properly on the screen and the symbols keyboard is not available altogether! > On 27 Jun 2017, at 10:13, Simon Fogarty wrote: > > Thanks Mark, > > Nice low down on what's to come. > > Might be crazy and go update my only iphone > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor > Sent: Tuesday, 27 June 2017 11:27 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET > > CNET News - Monday, June 26, 2017 at 1:01 PM iOS 11 public beta: What it does > for the iPhone - CNET The iPhone 8 could end up being an amazing, > transformative 10th-anniversary iPhone. At first glance, iOS 11 doesn't seem > quite so ambitious. It's more of a series of targeted upgrades, with some of > them being downright fantastic. > Apple's newest version of its operating system for iPhones and iPads doesn't > formally arrive until later this year, but it's here in public beta form now. > You can install it on your own iPads and iPhones, if you dare. Don't do so on > your primary device, however, only experiment with it on a secondary device, > and be ready for plenty of bugs. Betas do weird things sometimes and App > Store apps aren't optimized for it yet anyway. > I've already been using it for a few days, testing it on an iPhone 7 Plus > (for this story) and a new 10.5-inch iPad Pro (to see all the extra features > it adds on the iPad). With the caveat that this is a beta -- and not a > feature-complete one at that -- here are my first impressions. > The killer features: > You can pluck the best shots from Live Photos When Live Photos first launched > in 2015, they seemed clever but gimmicky. My brother-in-law asked me back > then, can Live Photo pick another shot to grab a moment you thought you > missed? It couldn't before, but it can now. Editing a Live Photo now allows > any of the shots to become the "primary photo." > Missed your kid's smile? Maybe you didn't. It's now a time machine for > snapshots and a backup plan. I'm never turning it off after the iOS 11 > upgrade. Added GIF-like loop effects and a nice long exposure trick are great > too, but nothing beats editable shots. > > Pick your best shot. > Sarah Tew/CNET > A one-page Control Center > The iPhone's handy swipe-up panel sprawled into a weird multi-page monster > with iOS 10, but it fits on one pane in iOS 11. New features are added, too, > and shortcuts to key apps can be added or removed like widgets. Nice adds are > Notes, Voice Memo and a great Apple TV remote tool built-in. I can keep my > lost Apple TV remote wedged in the sofa permanently. Still, it could have > added even more. Control Center doesn't use 3D Touch as much as I thought it > would to deep-dive further in settings. But, hey, it's progress. > > Control Center has sub-sections, now. > Sarah Tew/CNET > Screen recording > It's not going to be for everyone, but it's so easy to start recording what > you do on your iPhone, even add voice-over commentary and share as a video. > How-to videos and self-help sites are going to benefit tremendously. Maybe > I'd use this to show my mom how to adjust her phone settings the next time > she calls -- I could just email the video. > Marking up (almost) anything > The next time you want to share what you see on your iPhone (or iPad), > remember that screenshots (home plus the power button together) now launch a > markup tool that lets you scribble or highlight anything. Well, almost > anything... movies and protected videos ended up blacked out (on iOS 10, that > doesn't happen). Circle a weird comment, add a note with your finger. > Safari has a "markup as PDF" feature that does the same thing. It'll be great > for Twitter or Facebook. In a similar vein, PDFs are easy to make and even > add signatures to. > A built-in scanner in Notes > Apple's Notes app keeps getting serious upgrades, pushing it further into > Evernote country. Tables can be added in iOS 11, and there's also a scanning > tool to add receipts or other documents. It does a pretty good job stretching > and evening out off-angle scans, but it doesn't convert into editable text. > > One-handed keyboard! > Sarah Tew/CNET > Some other things to try: > Siri sounds different and can translate > Siri is supposed to be somewhat smarter now. I didn't see a giant boost yet, > but Siri definitely sounds different. The "more natural" style
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i just want the mac beta. hope it comes out in the next 24 hours. > On 27 Jun 2017, at 7:13 pm, Simon Fogarty wrote: > > Thanks Mark, > > Nice low down on what's to come. > > Might be crazy and go update my only iphone > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor > Sent: Tuesday, 27 June 2017 11:27 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET > > CNET News - Monday, June 26, 2017 at 1:01 PM iOS 11 public beta: What it does > for the iPhone - CNET The iPhone 8 could end up being an amazing, > transformative 10th-anniversary iPhone. At first glance, iOS 11 doesn't seem > quite so ambitious. It's more of a series of targeted upgrades, with some of > them being downright fantastic. > Apple's newest version of its operating system for iPhones and iPads doesn't > formally arrive until later this year, but it's here in public beta form now. > You can install it on your own iPads and iPhones, if you dare. Don't do so on > your primary device, however, only experiment with it on a secondary device, > and be ready for plenty of bugs. Betas do weird things sometimes and App > Store apps aren't optimized for it yet anyway. > I've already been using it for a few days, testing it on an iPhone 7 Plus > (for this story) and a new 10.5-inch iPad Pro (to see all the extra features > it adds on the iPad). With the caveat that this is a beta -- and not a > feature-complete one at that -- here are my first impressions. > The killer features: > You can pluck the best shots from Live Photos When Live Photos first launched > in 2015, they seemed clever but gimmicky. My brother-in-law asked me back > then, can Live Photo pick another shot to grab a moment you thought you > missed? It couldn't before, but it can now. Editing a Live Photo now allows > any of the shots to become the "primary photo." > Missed your kid's smile? Maybe you didn't. It's now a time machine for > snapshots and a backup plan. I'm never turning it off after the iOS 11 > upgrade. Added GIF-like loop effects and a nice long exposure trick are great > too, but nothing beats editable shots. > > Pick your best shot. > Sarah Tew/CNET > A one-page Control Center > The iPhone's handy swipe-up panel sprawled into a weird multi-page monster > with iOS 10, but it fits on one pane in iOS 11. New features are added, too, > and shortcuts to key apps can be added or removed like widgets. Nice adds are > Notes, Voice Memo and a great Apple TV remote tool built-in. I can keep my > lost Apple TV remote wedged in the sofa permanently. Still, it could have > added even more. Control Center doesn't use 3D Touch as much as I thought it > would to deep-dive further in settings. But, hey, it's progress. > > Control Center has sub-sections, now. > Sarah Tew/CNET > Screen recording > It's not going to be for everyone, but it's so easy to start recording what > you do on your iPhone, even add voice-over commentary and share as a video. > How-to videos and self-help sites are going to benefit tremendously. Maybe > I'd use this to show my mom how to adjust her phone settings the next time > she calls -- I could just email the video. > Marking up (almost) anything > The next time you want to share what you see on your iPhone (or iPad), > remember that screenshots (home plus the power button together) now launch a > markup tool that lets you scribble or highlight anything. Well, almost > anything... movies and protected videos ended up blacked out (on iOS 10, that > doesn't happen). Circle a weird comment, add a note with your finger. > Safari has a "markup as PDF" feature that does the same thing. It'll be great > for Twitter or Facebook. In a similar vein, PDFs are easy to make and even > add signatures to. > A built-in scanner in Notes > Apple's Notes app keeps getting serious upgrades, pushing it further into > Evernote country. Tables can be added in iOS 11, and there's also a scanning > tool to add receipts or other documents. It does a pretty good job stretching > and evening out off-angle scans, but it doesn't convert into editable text. > > One-handed keyboard! > Sarah Tew/CNET > Some other things to try: > Siri sounds different and can translate > Siri is supposed to be somewhat smarter now. I didn't see a giant boost yet, > but Siri definitely sounds different. The "more natural" style actually threw > me off a bit. Siri's nicest new feature is instant audio
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Hi Mary, I agree, As both a windows and Mac user I can say Mac OS and IOS devices are far ahead of microsofts accessibility features. Infact Microsoft have gone backwards with MS Edge as it's not as accessible to screan readers as IE. And I can't reimage or setup a brand new windows computer without sighted assistance yet as of right now I'm setting up my iPhone 7+ by myself with IOS 11 public beta, So I'd say they still to this point in time care about accessibility -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Tuesday, 27 June 2017 1:44 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET Gary, I think your way out of line here. I think they do care about accessibility. I know they have an accessibility team. And they're still ahead of the other side of the fence in some very important ways, at least for me. Why do you think I still use my iPhone for most all of my email? Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 26, 2017, at 5:58 PM, gary-melconian wrote: > > Mary, you are forgetting, apple does not care about you any more. They will > build product charge an darm and a leg . fi you want it you wwill buy it if > not then you wont. That’s the attitude of apple lately. So I wold not bbe > surprised that they will not bother to work on accessibility any more. Wahthe > point if they are to get a few customrers to upgrade in the long run. > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten > Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 5:06 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the > iPhone - CNET > > Well, if I'm understanding this correctly, I have to say I'm disappointed > about the scanning in the PDF. Yet another excuse to have a not editable text > in a PDF file. Very sad. Apple, if you care about excess ability, you'll > change this. > Mary > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 26, 2017, at 4:26 PM, M. Taylor wrote: >> >> CNET News - Monday, June 26, 2017 at 1:01 PM iOS 11 public beta: What >> it does for the iPhone - CNET The iPhone 8 could end up being an >> amazing, transformative 10th-anniversary iPhone. At first glance, iOS >> 11 doesn't seem quite so ambitious. It's more of a series of targeted >> upgrades, with some of them being downright fantastic. >> Apple's newest version of its operating system for iPhones and iPads >> doesn't formally arrive until later this year, but it's here in >> public beta form now. You can install it on your own iPads and >> iPhones, if you dare. Don't do so on your primary device, however, >> only experiment with it on a secondary device, and be ready for >> plenty of bugs. Betas do weird things sometimes and App Store apps aren't >> optimized for it yet anyway. >> I've already been using it for a few days, testing it on an iPhone 7 >> Plus (for this story) and a new 10.5-inch iPad Pro (to see all the >> extra features it adds on the iPad). With the caveat that this is a >> beta -- and not a feature-complete one at that -- here are my first >> impressions. >> The killer features: >> You can pluck the best shots from Live Photos When Live Photos first >> launched in 2015, they seemed clever but gimmicky. My brother-in-law >> asked me back then, can Live Photo pick another shot to grab a moment >> you thought you missed? It couldn't before, but it can now. Editing a >> Live Photo now allows any of the shots to become the "primary photo." >> Missed your kid's smile? Maybe you didn't. It's now a time machine >> for snapshots and a backup plan. I'm never turning it off after the >> iOS 11 upgrade. Added GIF-like loop effects and a nice long exposure >> trick are great too, but nothing beats editable shots. >> >> Pick your best shot. >> Sarah Tew/CNET >> A one-page Control Center >> The iPhone's handy swipe-up panel sprawled into a weird multi-page >> monster with iOS 10, but it fits on one pane in iOS 11. New features >> are added, too, and shortcuts to key apps can be added or removed >> like widgets. Nice adds are Notes, Voice Memo and a great Apple TV >> remote tool built-in. I can keep my lost Apple TV remote wedged in >> the sofa permanently. Still, it could have added even more. Control >> Center doesn't use 3D Touch as much as I thought it would to deep-dive >> furthe
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Thanks Mark, Nice low down on what's to come. Might be crazy and go update my only iphone -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Tuesday, 27 June 2017 11:27 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET CNET News - Monday, June 26, 2017 at 1:01 PM iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET The iPhone 8 could end up being an amazing, transformative 10th-anniversary iPhone. At first glance, iOS 11 doesn't seem quite so ambitious. It's more of a series of targeted upgrades, with some of them being downright fantastic. Apple's newest version of its operating system for iPhones and iPads doesn't formally arrive until later this year, but it's here in public beta form now. You can install it on your own iPads and iPhones, if you dare. Don't do so on your primary device, however, only experiment with it on a secondary device, and be ready for plenty of bugs. Betas do weird things sometimes and App Store apps aren't optimized for it yet anyway. I've already been using it for a few days, testing it on an iPhone 7 Plus (for this story) and a new 10.5-inch iPad Pro (to see all the extra features it adds on the iPad). With the caveat that this is a beta -- and not a feature-complete one at that -- here are my first impressions. The killer features: You can pluck the best shots from Live Photos When Live Photos first launched in 2015, they seemed clever but gimmicky. My brother-in-law asked me back then, can Live Photo pick another shot to grab a moment you thought you missed? It couldn't before, but it can now. Editing a Live Photo now allows any of the shots to become the "primary photo." Missed your kid's smile? Maybe you didn't. It's now a time machine for snapshots and a backup plan. I'm never turning it off after the iOS 11 upgrade. Added GIF-like loop effects and a nice long exposure trick are great too, but nothing beats editable shots. Pick your best shot. Sarah Tew/CNET A one-page Control Center The iPhone's handy swipe-up panel sprawled into a weird multi-page monster with iOS 10, but it fits on one pane in iOS 11. New features are added, too, and shortcuts to key apps can be added or removed like widgets. Nice adds are Notes, Voice Memo and a great Apple TV remote tool built-in. I can keep my lost Apple TV remote wedged in the sofa permanently. Still, it could have added even more. Control Center doesn't use 3D Touch as much as I thought it would to deep-dive further in settings. But, hey, it's progress. Control Center has sub-sections, now. Sarah Tew/CNET Screen recording It's not going to be for everyone, but it's so easy to start recording what you do on your iPhone, even add voice-over commentary and share as a video. How-to videos and self-help sites are going to benefit tremendously. Maybe I'd use this to show my mom how to adjust her phone settings the next time she calls -- I could just email the video. Marking up (almost) anything The next time you want to share what you see on your iPhone (or iPad), remember that screenshots (home plus the power button together) now launch a markup tool that lets you scribble or highlight anything. Well, almost anything... movies and protected videos ended up blacked out (on iOS 10, that doesn't happen). Circle a weird comment, add a note with your finger. Safari has a "markup as PDF" feature that does the same thing. It'll be great for Twitter or Facebook. In a similar vein, PDFs are easy to make and even add signatures to. A built-in scanner in Notes Apple's Notes app keeps getting serious upgrades, pushing it further into Evernote country. Tables can be added in iOS 11, and there's also a scanning tool to add receipts or other documents. It does a pretty good job stretching and evening out off-angle scans, but it doesn't convert into editable text. One-handed keyboard! Sarah Tew/CNET Some other things to try: Siri sounds different and can translate Siri is supposed to be somewhat smarter now. I didn't see a giant boost yet, but Siri definitely sounds different. The "more natural" style actually threw me off a bit. Siri's nicest new feature is instant audio translation into French, German, Italian, Mandarin Chinese and Spanish. It's in beta -- so be wary of relying on it in a serious setting -- but it's nice to have at a quick button press. (Google Translate is still my go-to, though.) One-handed keyboards A little iOS 11 trick is to press and hold the "emoji" button in the keyboard to get a new left- or right-hand-squished keyboard optimized for one-handed typing. It's reminiscent of the old compressed keyboard on the iPhone SE. The F
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we have image , or picture explaining already, take a picture of your dads car and see what happens, if that is not good enough for y'all, use tap tap see. On 6/26/17, Oriol Gómez wrote: > Prizmo Go is the best OCR App I've seen so far. I don't care about > Samsung because I've tried out their phones and didn't like them that > much, besides they use old galaxy talkback, etc etc. They just want a > medal for accessibility that they haven't earned. > > On 6/27/17, David Chittenden wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I wonder if it might encourage Apple if it is brought to their attention >> that the latest Samsung 8 smartphone has OCR built-in. After all, the >> companies do compete with each other. >> >> Until OCR is brought native, there is KNFB Reader (for a significant >> cost), >> or Prizmo Go (for no cost) with much of KNFB's accessibility, equivalent >> OCR, but not as much overall flexibility. Though, with a small cost, >> Prizmo >> Go's capabilities expand significantly. >> >> Kind regards, >> >> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com >> Mobile: +61 488 988 936 >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On 27/06/2017, at 14:23, E.T. wrote: >>> >>> Sure but then you also need to follow up and direct this feedback to >>> Apple where it can be acted upon ne way or another. It may well come to >>> pass some day where we can carry in one hand a device that can truly do >>> it >>> all. Maybe we need to wait for a 128bit iPhone. Next year? 5 years from >>> now? >>> >>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . >>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the >>> mysteries of the world, all the challenges to >>> our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off >>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan >>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>> >>>> On 6/26/2017 8:17 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >>>> G, you can't even express disappointment with one feature without the >>>> world falling in on you. I said and maintained that I'm disappointed >>>> with >>>> the fact that apple didn't include OCR with that scanning feature. >>>> They're doing some good things for PDF on Mac this time out, finally. >>>> So >>>> I was hoping the trend will continue for OS 11. I'm sure there will be >>>> other good things, and I suppose it's possible, although I think think >>>> doubtful, that a major thing like OCR would be added during the process >>>> of The beta cycle. >>>> Mary >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Jun 26, 2017, at 6:56 PM, E.T. wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Mary, >>>>> Why not just wait and see how iOS 11 develops into a mature OS? You >>>>> are >>>>> basing your sentiments on one article written by a sighted person. Its >>>>> simply way too early to be disappointed. >>>>> >>>>> Maybe I am too pragmatic for my own good. And I bet the bible >>>>> thumpers >>>>> are already gearing up to proclaim the end is coming on August 21st. >>>>> (smiles) >>>>> >>>>> Point is, the end is not coming, and iOS 11 will certainly make some >>>>> people crazy when they lose their old 32bit apps. But I expect there >>>>> will be some wonderful new things for us too. >>>>> >>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . >>>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the >>>>> mysteries of the world, all the challenges to >>>>> our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off >>>>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan >>>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>>>> >>>>>> On 6/26/2017 6:43 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >>>>>> Gary, I think your way out of line here. I think they do care about >>>>>> accessibility. I know they have an accessibility team. And they're >>>>>> still ahead of the other side of the fence in some very important >>>>>> ways, >>>>>> at least for me. Why do you think I still use my iPhone for most all >>>>>> of >>>>>> my email? >>>>>> Mary >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>
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Prizmo Go is the best OCR App I've seen so far. I don't care about Samsung because I've tried out their phones and didn't like them that much, besides they use old galaxy talkback, etc etc. They just want a medal for accessibility that they haven't earned. On 6/27/17, David Chittenden wrote: > Hello, > > I wonder if it might encourage Apple if it is brought to their attention > that the latest Samsung 8 smartphone has OCR built-in. After all, the > companies do compete with each other. > > Until OCR is brought native, there is KNFB Reader (for a significant cost), > or Prizmo Go (for no cost) with much of KNFB's accessibility, equivalent > OCR, but not as much overall flexibility. Though, with a small cost, Prizmo > Go's capabilities expand significantly. > > Kind regards, > > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA > Email: dchitten...@gmail.com > Mobile: +61 488 988 936 > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 27/06/2017, at 14:23, E.T. wrote: >> >> Sure but then you also need to follow up and direct this feedback to >> Apple where it can be acted upon ne way or another. It may well come to >> pass some day where we can carry in one hand a device that can truly do it >> all. Maybe we need to wait for a 128bit iPhone. Next year? 5 years from >> now? >> >> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . >> "God for you is where you sweep away all the >> mysteries of the world, all the challenges to >> our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off >> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan >> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com >> >>> On 6/26/2017 8:17 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >>> G, you can't even express disappointment with one feature without the >>> world falling in on you. I said and maintained that I'm disappointed with >>> the fact that apple didn't include OCR with that scanning feature. >>> They're doing some good things for PDF on Mac this time out, finally. So >>> I was hoping the trend will continue for OS 11. I'm sure there will be >>> other good things, and I suppose it's possible, although I think think >>> doubtful, that a major thing like OCR would be added during the process >>> of The beta cycle. >>> Mary >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Jun 26, 2017, at 6:56 PM, E.T. wrote: >>>> >>>> Mary, >>>> Why not just wait and see how iOS 11 develops into a mature OS? You are >>>> basing your sentiments on one article written by a sighted person. Its >>>> simply way too early to be disappointed. >>>> >>>> Maybe I am too pragmatic for my own good. And I bet the bible thumpers >>>> are already gearing up to proclaim the end is coming on August 21st. >>>> (smiles) >>>> >>>> Point is, the end is not coming, and iOS 11 will certainly make some >>>> people crazy when they lose their old 32bit apps. But I expect there >>>> will be some wonderful new things for us too. >>>> >>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . >>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the >>>> mysteries of the world, all the challenges to >>>> our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off >>>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan >>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>>> >>>>> On 6/26/2017 6:43 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >>>>> Gary, I think your way out of line here. I think they do care about >>>>> accessibility. I know they have an accessibility team. And they're >>>>> still ahead of the other side of the fence in some very important ways, >>>>> at least for me. Why do you think I still use my iPhone for most all of >>>>> my email? >>>>> Mary >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On Jun 26, 2017, at 5:58 PM, gary-melconian >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Mary, you are forgetting, apple does not care about you any more. They >>>>>> will build product charge an darm and a leg . fi you want it you wwill >>>>>> buy it if not then you wont. That’s the attitude of apple lately. So I >>>>>> wold not bbe surprised that they will not bother to work on >>>>>> accessibility any more. Wahthe point if they are to get a few >>>>>> customrers to upgrade in the long run. >>>>>> >>>>>> -Origina
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Hello, I wonder if it might encourage Apple if it is brought to their attention that the latest Samsung 8 smartphone has OCR built-in. After all, the companies do compete with each other. Until OCR is brought native, there is KNFB Reader (for a significant cost), or Prizmo Go (for no cost) with much of KNFB's accessibility, equivalent OCR, but not as much overall flexibility. Though, with a small cost, Prizmo Go's capabilities expand significantly. Kind regards, David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +61 488 988 936 Sent from my iPhone > On 27/06/2017, at 14:23, E.T. wrote: > > Sure but then you also need to follow up and direct this feedback to Apple > where it can be acted upon ne way or another. It may well come to pass some > day where we can carry in one hand a device that can truly do it all. Maybe > we need to wait for a 128bit iPhone. Next year? 5 years from now? > > From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . > "God for you is where you sweep away all the > mysteries of the world, all the challenges to > our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off > and say God did it." --Carl Sagan > E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com > >> On 6/26/2017 8:17 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >> G, you can't even express disappointment with one feature without the world >> falling in on you. I said and maintained that I'm disappointed with the fact >> that apple didn't include OCR with that scanning feature. They're doing some >> good things for PDF on Mac this time out, finally. So I was hoping the trend >> will continue for OS 11. I'm sure there will be other good things, and I >> suppose it's possible, although I think think doubtful, that a major thing >> like OCR would be added during the process of The beta cycle. >> Mary >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jun 26, 2017, at 6:56 PM, E.T. wrote: >>> >>> Mary, >>> Why not just wait and see how iOS 11 develops into a mature OS? You are >>> basing your sentiments on one article written by a sighted person. Its >>> simply way too early to be disappointed. >>> >>> Maybe I am too pragmatic for my own good. And I bet the bible thumpers are >>> already gearing up to proclaim the end is coming on August 21st. (smiles) >>> >>> Point is, the end is not coming, and iOS 11 will certainly make some >>> people crazy when they lose their old 32bit apps. But I expect there will >>> be some wonderful new things for us too. >>> >>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . >>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the >>> mysteries of the world, all the challenges to >>> our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off >>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan >>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>> >>>> On 6/26/2017 6:43 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >>>> Gary, I think your way out of line here. I think they do care about >>>> accessibility. I know they have an accessibility team. And they're still >>>> ahead of the other side of the fence in some very important ways, at least >>>> for me. Why do you think I still use my iPhone for most all of my email? >>>> Mary >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Jun 26, 2017, at 5:58 PM, gary-melconian >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Mary, you are forgetting, apple does not care about you any more. They >>>>> will build product charge an darm and a leg . fi you want it you wwill >>>>> buy it if not then you wont. That’s the attitude of apple lately. So I >>>>> wold not bbe surprised that they will not bother to work on accessibility >>>>> any more. Wahthe point if they are to get a few customrers to upgrade in >>>>> the long run. >>>>> >>>>> -Original Message- >>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten >>>>> Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 5:06 PM >>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> Subject: Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the >>>>> iPhone - CNET >>>>> >>>>> Well, if I'm understanding this correctly, I have to say I'm disappointed >>>>> about the scanning in the PDF. Yet another excuse to have a not editable >>>>> text in a PDF file. Very sad. Apple, if you care
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They didn't include OCR? Didn't you read applevis comments on accessibility feature where you can scan images to get a description and read text? Seriously guys On 6/27/17, E.T. wrote: > Sure but then you also need to follow up and direct this feedback to > Apple where it can be acted upon ne way or another. It may well come to > pass some day where we can carry in one hand a device that can truly do > it all. Maybe we need to wait for a 128bit iPhone. Next year? 5 years > from now? > > From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . >"God for you is where you sweep away all the >mysteries of the world, all the challenges to >our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off >and say God did it." --Carl Sagan > E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com > > On 6/26/2017 8:17 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >> G, you can't even express disappointment with one feature without the >> world falling in on you. I said and maintained that I'm disappointed with >> the fact that apple didn't include OCR with that scanning feature. They're >> doing some good things for PDF on Mac this time out, finally. So I was >> hoping the trend will continue for OS 11. I'm sure there will be other >> good things, and I suppose it's possible, although I think think doubtful, >> that a major thing like OCR would be added during the process of The beta >> cycle. >> Mary >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jun 26, 2017, at 6:56 PM, E.T. wrote: >>> >>> Mary, >>> Why not just wait and see how iOS 11 develops into a mature OS? You are >>> basing your sentiments on one article written by a sighted person. Its >>> simply way too early to be disappointed. >>> >>> Maybe I am too pragmatic for my own good. And I bet the bible thumpers >>> are already gearing up to proclaim the end is coming on August 21st. >>> (smiles) >>> >>> Point is, the end is not coming, and iOS 11 will certainly make some >>> people crazy when they lose their old 32bit apps. But I expect there will >>> be some wonderful new things for us too. >>> >>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . >>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the >>> mysteries of the world, all the challenges to >>> our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off >>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan >>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>> >>>> On 6/26/2017 6:43 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >>>> Gary, I think your way out of line here. I think they do care about >>>> accessibility. I know they have an accessibility team. And they're still >>>> ahead of the other side of the fence in some very important ways, at >>>> least for me. Why do you think I still use my iPhone for most all of my >>>> email? >>>> Mary >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Jun 26, 2017, at 5:58 PM, gary-melconian >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Mary, you are forgetting, apple does not care about you any more. They >>>>> will build product charge an darm and a leg . fi you want it you wwill >>>>> buy it if not then you wont. That’s the attitude of apple lately. So I >>>>> wold not bbe surprised that they will not bother to work on >>>>> accessibility any more. Wahthe point if they are to get a few >>>>> customrers to upgrade in the long run. >>>>> >>>>> -Original Message- >>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten >>>>> Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 5:06 PM >>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> Subject: Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the >>>>> iPhone - CNET >>>>> >>>>> Well, if I'm understanding this correctly, I have to say I'm >>>>> disappointed about the scanning in the PDF. Yet another excuse to have >>>>> a not editable text in a PDF file. Very sad. Apple, if you care about >>>>> excess ability, you'll change this. >>>>> Mary >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On Jun 26, 2017, at 4:26 PM, M. Taylor wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> CNET News - Monday, June 26, 2017 at 1:01 PM iOS 11 public beta: What >>>>>> it doe
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Sure but then you also need to follow up and direct this feedback to Apple where it can be acted upon ne way or another. It may well come to pass some day where we can carry in one hand a device that can truly do it all. Maybe we need to wait for a 128bit iPhone. Next year? 5 years from now? From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 6/26/2017 8:17 PM, Mary Otten wrote: G, you can't even express disappointment with one feature without the world falling in on you. I said and maintained that I'm disappointed with the fact that apple didn't include OCR with that scanning feature. They're doing some good things for PDF on Mac this time out, finally. So I was hoping the trend will continue for OS 11. I'm sure there will be other good things, and I suppose it's possible, although I think think doubtful, that a major thing like OCR would be added during the process of The beta cycle. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Jun 26, 2017, at 6:56 PM, E.T. wrote: Mary, Why not just wait and see how iOS 11 develops into a mature OS? You are basing your sentiments on one article written by a sighted person. Its simply way too early to be disappointed. Maybe I am too pragmatic for my own good. And I bet the bible thumpers are already gearing up to proclaim the end is coming on August 21st. (smiles) Point is, the end is not coming, and iOS 11 will certainly make some people crazy when they lose their old 32bit apps. But I expect there will be some wonderful new things for us too. From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 6/26/2017 6:43 PM, Mary Otten wrote: Gary, I think your way out of line here. I think they do care about accessibility. I know they have an accessibility team. And they're still ahead of the other side of the fence in some very important ways, at least for me. Why do you think I still use my iPhone for most all of my email? Mary Sent from my iPhone On Jun 26, 2017, at 5:58 PM, gary-melconian wrote: Mary, you are forgetting, apple does not care about you any more. They will build product charge an darm and a leg . fi you want it you wwill buy it if not then you wont. That’s the attitude of apple lately. So I wold not bbe surprised that they will not bother to work on accessibility any more. Wahthe point if they are to get a few customrers to upgrade in the long run. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 5:06 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET Well, if I'm understanding this correctly, I have to say I'm disappointed about the scanning in the PDF. Yet another excuse to have a not editable text in a PDF file. Very sad. Apple, if you care about excess ability, you'll change this. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Jun 26, 2017, at 4:26 PM, M. Taylor wrote: CNET News - Monday, June 26, 2017 at 1:01 PM iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET The iPhone 8 could end up being an amazing, transformative 10th-anniversary iPhone. At first glance, iOS 11 doesn't seem quite so ambitious. It's more of a series of targeted upgrades, with some of them being downright fantastic. Apple's newest version of its operating system for iPhones and iPads doesn't formally arrive until later this year, but it's here in public beta form now. You can install it on your own iPads and iPhones, if you dare. Don't do so on your primary device, however, only experiment with it on a secondary device, and be ready for plenty of bugs. Betas do weird things sometimes and App Store apps aren't optimized for it yet anyway. I've already been using it for a few days, testing it on an iPhone 7 Plus (for this story) and a new 10.5-inch iPad Pro (to see all the extra features it adds on the iPad). With the caveat that this is a beta -- and not a feature-complete one at that -- here are my first impressions. The killer features: You can pluck the best shots from Live Photos When Live Photos first launched in 2015, they seemed clever but gimmicky. My brother-in-law asked me back then, can Live Photo pick another shot to grab a moment you thought you missed? It couldn't before, but it can now. Editing a Live Photo now allows any of the shots to become the "primary photo." Missed your kid's smile? Maybe you didn't. It's now a time machine for snapsho
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G, you can't even express disappointment with one feature without the world falling in on you. I said and maintained that I'm disappointed with the fact that apple didn't include OCR with that scanning feature. They're doing some good things for PDF on Mac this time out, finally. So I was hoping the trend will continue for OS 11. I'm sure there will be other good things, and I suppose it's possible, although I think think doubtful, that a major thing like OCR would be added during the process of The beta cycle. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 26, 2017, at 6:56 PM, E.T. wrote: > > Mary, > Why not just wait and see how iOS 11 develops into a mature OS? You are > basing your sentiments on one article written by a sighted person. Its simply > way too early to be disappointed. > > Maybe I am too pragmatic for my own good. And I bet the bible thumpers are > already gearing up to proclaim the end is coming on August 21st. (smiles) > > Point is, the end is not coming, and iOS 11 will certainly make some people > crazy when they lose their old 32bit apps. But I expect there will be some > wonderful new things for us too. > > From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . > "God for you is where you sweep away all the > mysteries of the world, all the challenges to > our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off > and say God did it." --Carl Sagan > E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com > >> On 6/26/2017 6:43 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >> Gary, I think your way out of line here. I think they do care about >> accessibility. I know they have an accessibility team. And they're still >> ahead of the other side of the fence in some very important ways, at least >> for me. Why do you think I still use my iPhone for most all of my email? >> Mary >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jun 26, 2017, at 5:58 PM, gary-melconian wrote: >>> >>> Mary, you are forgetting, apple does not care about you any more. They will >>> build product charge an darm and a leg . fi you want it you wwill buy it if >>> not then you wont. That’s the attitude of apple lately. So I wold not bbe >>> surprised that they will not bother to work on accessibility any more. >>> Wahthe point if they are to get a few customrers to upgrade in the long >>> run. >>> >>> -Original Message----- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten >>> Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 5:06 PM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone >>> - CNET >>> >>> Well, if I'm understanding this correctly, I have to say I'm disappointed >>> about the scanning in the PDF. Yet another excuse to have a not editable >>> text in a PDF file. Very sad. Apple, if you care about excess ability, >>> you'll change this. >>> Mary >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Jun 26, 2017, at 4:26 PM, M. Taylor wrote: >>>> >>>> CNET News - Monday, June 26, 2017 at 1:01 PM iOS 11 public beta: What >>>> it does for the iPhone - CNET The iPhone 8 could end up being an >>>> amazing, transformative 10th-anniversary iPhone. At first glance, iOS >>>> 11 doesn't seem quite so ambitious. It's more of a series of targeted >>>> upgrades, with some of them being downright fantastic. >>>> Apple's newest version of its operating system for iPhones and iPads >>>> doesn't formally arrive until later this year, but it's here in public >>>> beta form now. You can install it on your own iPads and iPhones, if >>>> you dare. Don't do so on your primary device, however, only experiment >>>> with it on a secondary device, and be ready for plenty of bugs. Betas >>>> do weird things sometimes and App Store apps aren't optimized for it yet >>>> anyway. >>>> I've already been using it for a few days, testing it on an iPhone 7 >>>> Plus (for this story) and a new 10.5-inch iPad Pro (to see all the >>>> extra features it adds on the iPad). With the caveat that this is a >>>> beta -- and not a feature-complete one at that -- here are my first >>>> impressions. >>>> The killer features: >>>> You can pluck the best shots from Live Photos When Live Photos first >>>> launched in 2015, they seemed clever but gimmicky. My brother-in-law >&g
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This was one sighted person describing what they found in the new beta. Just because accessibility wasn't mentioned doesn't mean that nothing was added to accessibility. I did catch something on the keynote that I have heard nobody talk about. Specifically indoor navigation with support for several malls and airports. I highly expect Tysons Cornerr, a mall that is only two miles from my house , to be a good candidate. Not only is the mall packed every weekend and most evenings, it was also the site of the first Apple Retail store. So I am hoping that the indoor navigation helps me verify if I have passed Nordstroms or still have 200 feet to go. Best Wishes, Jonathan -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Mary, Why not just wait and see how iOS 11 develops into a mature OS? You are basing your sentiments on one article written by a sighted person. Its simply way too early to be disappointed. Maybe I am too pragmatic for my own good. And I bet the bible thumpers are already gearing up to proclaim the end is coming on August 21st. (smiles) Point is, the end is not coming, and iOS 11 will certainly make some people crazy when they lose their old 32bit apps. But I expect there will be some wonderful new things for us too. From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 6/26/2017 6:43 PM, Mary Otten wrote: Gary, I think your way out of line here. I think they do care about accessibility. I know they have an accessibility team. And they're still ahead of the other side of the fence in some very important ways, at least for me. Why do you think I still use my iPhone for most all of my email? Mary Sent from my iPhone On Jun 26, 2017, at 5:58 PM, gary-melconian wrote: Mary, you are forgetting, apple does not care about you any more. They will build product charge an darm and a leg . fi you want it you wwill buy it if not then you wont. That’s the attitude of apple lately. So I wold not bbe surprised that they will not bother to work on accessibility any more. Wahthe point if they are to get a few customrers to upgrade in the long run. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 5:06 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET Well, if I'm understanding this correctly, I have to say I'm disappointed about the scanning in the PDF. Yet another excuse to have a not editable text in a PDF file. Very sad. Apple, if you care about excess ability, you'll change this. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Jun 26, 2017, at 4:26 PM, M. Taylor wrote: CNET News - Monday, June 26, 2017 at 1:01 PM iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET The iPhone 8 could end up being an amazing, transformative 10th-anniversary iPhone. At first glance, iOS 11 doesn't seem quite so ambitious. It's more of a series of targeted upgrades, with some of them being downright fantastic. Apple's newest version of its operating system for iPhones and iPads doesn't formally arrive until later this year, but it's here in public beta form now. You can install it on your own iPads and iPhones, if you dare. Don't do so on your primary device, however, only experiment with it on a secondary device, and be ready for plenty of bugs. Betas do weird things sometimes and App Store apps aren't optimized for it yet anyway. I've already been using it for a few days, testing it on an iPhone 7 Plus (for this story) and a new 10.5-inch iPad Pro (to see all the extra features it adds on the iPad). With the caveat that this is a beta -- and not a feature-complete one at that -- here are my first impressions. The killer features: You can pluck the best shots from Live Photos When Live Photos first launched in 2015, they seemed clever but gimmicky. My brother-in-law asked me back then, can Live Photo pick another shot to grab a moment you thought you missed? It couldn't before, but it can now. Editing a Live Photo now allows any of the shots to become the "primary photo." Missed your kid's smile? Maybe you didn't. It's now a time machine for snapshots and a backup plan. I'm never turning it off after the iOS 11 upgrade. Added GIF-like loop effects and a nice long exposure trick are great too, but nothing beats editable shots. Pick your best shot. Sarah Tew/CNET A one-page Control Center The iPhone's handy swipe-up panel sprawled into a weird multi-page monster with iOS 10, but it fits on one pane in iOS 11. New features are added, too, and shortcuts to key apps can be added or removed like widgets. Nice adds are Notes, Voice Memo and a great Apple TV remote tool built-in. I can keep my lost Apple TV remote wedged in the sofa permanently. Still, it could have added even more. Control Center doesn't use 3D Touch as much as I thought it would to deep-dive further in settings. But, hey, it's progress. Control Center has sub-sections, now. Sarah Tew/CNET Screen recording It's not going to be for everyone, but it's so easy to start recording what you do on your iPhone, even add voice-over commentary and share as a video. How-to videos and self-help sites are going to benefit tremendously. Maybe I'd use this to show my mom how to adjust her phone settings the next time she calls -- I could just email the vid
Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET
ha I still use my computer for all of my email. Just because for me it feels nicer. Hmm can't wait to check out this beta. On 6/26/17, Mary Otten wrote: > Gary, I think your way out of line here. I think they do care about > accessibility. I know they have an accessibility team. And they're still > ahead of the other side of the fence in some very important ways, at least > for me. Why do you think I still use my iPhone for most all of my email? > Mary > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 26, 2017, at 5:58 PM, gary-melconian >> wrote: >> >> Mary, you are forgetting, apple does not care about you any more. They >> will build product charge an darm and a leg . fi you want it you wwill buy >> it if not then you wont. That’s the attitude of apple lately. So I wold >> not bbe surprised that they will not bother to work on accessibility any >> more. Wahthe point if they are to get a few customrers to upgrade in the >> long run. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten >> Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 5:06 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone >> - CNET >> >> Well, if I'm understanding this correctly, I have to say I'm disappointed >> about the scanning in the PDF. Yet another excuse to have a not editable >> text in a PDF file. Very sad. Apple, if you care about excess ability, >> you'll change this. >> Mary >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jun 26, 2017, at 4:26 PM, M. Taylor wrote: >>> >>> CNET News - Monday, June 26, 2017 at 1:01 PM iOS 11 public beta: What >>> it does for the iPhone - CNET The iPhone 8 could end up being an >>> amazing, transformative 10th-anniversary iPhone. At first glance, iOS >>> 11 doesn't seem quite so ambitious. It's more of a series of targeted >>> upgrades, with some of them being downright fantastic. >>> Apple's newest version of its operating system for iPhones and iPads >>> doesn't formally arrive until later this year, but it's here in public >>> beta form now. You can install it on your own iPads and iPhones, if >>> you dare. Don't do so on your primary device, however, only experiment >>> with it on a secondary device, and be ready for plenty of bugs. Betas >>> do weird things sometimes and App Store apps aren't optimized for it yet >>> anyway. >>> I've already been using it for a few days, testing it on an iPhone 7 >>> Plus (for this story) and a new 10.5-inch iPad Pro (to see all the >>> extra features it adds on the iPad). With the caveat that this is a >>> beta -- and not a feature-complete one at that -- here are my first >>> impressions. >>> The killer features: >>> You can pluck the best shots from Live Photos When Live Photos first >>> launched in 2015, they seemed clever but gimmicky. My brother-in-law >>> asked me back then, can Live Photo pick another shot to grab a moment >>> you thought you missed? It couldn't before, but it can now. Editing a >>> Live Photo now allows any of the shots to become the "primary photo." >>> Missed your kid's smile? Maybe you didn't. It's now a time machine for >>> snapshots and a backup plan. I'm never turning it off after the iOS 11 >>> upgrade. Added GIF-like loop effects and a nice long exposure trick >>> are great too, but nothing beats editable shots. >>> >>> Pick your best shot. >>> Sarah Tew/CNET >>> A one-page Control Center >>> The iPhone's handy swipe-up panel sprawled into a weird multi-page >>> monster with iOS 10, but it fits on one pane in iOS 11. New features >>> are added, too, and shortcuts to key apps can be added or removed like >>> widgets. Nice adds are Notes, Voice Memo and a great Apple TV remote >>> tool built-in. I can keep my lost Apple TV remote wedged in the sofa >>> permanently. Still, it could have added even more. Control Center >>> doesn't use 3D Touch as much as I thought it would to deep-dive further >>> in settings. But, hey, it's progress. >>> >>> Control Center has sub-sections, now. >>> Sarah Tew/CNET >>> Screen recording >>> It's not going to be for everyone, but it's so easy to start recording >>> what you do on your iPhone, even add voice-over commentary and share as a >>>
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Gary, I think your way out of line here. I think they do care about accessibility. I know they have an accessibility team. And they're still ahead of the other side of the fence in some very important ways, at least for me. Why do you think I still use my iPhone for most all of my email? Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 26, 2017, at 5:58 PM, gary-melconian wrote: > > Mary, you are forgetting, apple does not care about you any more. They will > build product charge an darm and a leg . fi you want it you wwill buy it if > not then you wont. That’s the attitude of apple lately. So I wold not bbe > surprised that they will not bother to work on accessibility any more. Wahthe > point if they are to get a few customrers to upgrade in the long run. > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten > Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 5:06 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - > CNET > > Well, if I'm understanding this correctly, I have to say I'm disappointed > about the scanning in the PDF. Yet another excuse to have a not editable text > in a PDF file. Very sad. Apple, if you care about excess ability, you'll > change this. > Mary > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 26, 2017, at 4:26 PM, M. Taylor wrote: >> >> CNET News - Monday, June 26, 2017 at 1:01 PM iOS 11 public beta: What >> it does for the iPhone - CNET The iPhone 8 could end up being an >> amazing, transformative 10th-anniversary iPhone. At first glance, iOS >> 11 doesn't seem quite so ambitious. It's more of a series of targeted >> upgrades, with some of them being downright fantastic. >> Apple's newest version of its operating system for iPhones and iPads >> doesn't formally arrive until later this year, but it's here in public >> beta form now. You can install it on your own iPads and iPhones, if >> you dare. Don't do so on your primary device, however, only experiment >> with it on a secondary device, and be ready for plenty of bugs. Betas >> do weird things sometimes and App Store apps aren't optimized for it yet >> anyway. >> I've already been using it for a few days, testing it on an iPhone 7 >> Plus (for this story) and a new 10.5-inch iPad Pro (to see all the >> extra features it adds on the iPad). With the caveat that this is a >> beta -- and not a feature-complete one at that -- here are my first >> impressions. >> The killer features: >> You can pluck the best shots from Live Photos When Live Photos first >> launched in 2015, they seemed clever but gimmicky. My brother-in-law >> asked me back then, can Live Photo pick another shot to grab a moment >> you thought you missed? It couldn't before, but it can now. Editing a >> Live Photo now allows any of the shots to become the "primary photo." >> Missed your kid's smile? Maybe you didn't. It's now a time machine for >> snapshots and a backup plan. I'm never turning it off after the iOS 11 >> upgrade. Added GIF-like loop effects and a nice long exposure trick >> are great too, but nothing beats editable shots. >> >> Pick your best shot. >> Sarah Tew/CNET >> A one-page Control Center >> The iPhone's handy swipe-up panel sprawled into a weird multi-page >> monster with iOS 10, but it fits on one pane in iOS 11. New features >> are added, too, and shortcuts to key apps can be added or removed like >> widgets. Nice adds are Notes, Voice Memo and a great Apple TV remote >> tool built-in. I can keep my lost Apple TV remote wedged in the sofa >> permanently. Still, it could have added even more. Control Center >> doesn't use 3D Touch as much as I thought it would to deep-dive further in >> settings. But, hey, it's progress. >> >> Control Center has sub-sections, now. >> Sarah Tew/CNET >> Screen recording >> It's not going to be for everyone, but it's so easy to start recording >> what you do on your iPhone, even add voice-over commentary and share as a >> video. >> How-to videos and self-help sites are going to benefit tremendously. >> Maybe I'd use this to show my mom how to adjust her phone settings the >> next time she calls -- I could just email the video. >> Marking up (almost) anything >> The next time you want to share what you see on your iPhone (or iPad), >> remember that screenshots (home plus the power button together) now >> launch a mark
Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET
There is always that greener grass on the other side of the fence. From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 6/26/2017 5:58 PM, gary-melconian wrote: Mary, you are forgetting, apple does not care about you any more. They will build product charge an darm and a leg . fi you want it you wwill buy it if not then you wont. That’s the attitude of apple lately. So I wold not bbe surprised that they will not bother to work on accessibility any more. Wahthe point if they are to get a few customrers to upgrade in the long run. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 5:06 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET Well, if I'm understanding this correctly, I have to say I'm disappointed about the scanning in the PDF. Yet another excuse to have a not editable text in a PDF file. Very sad. Apple, if you care about excess ability, you'll change this. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Jun 26, 2017, at 4:26 PM, M. Taylor wrote: CNET News - Monday, June 26, 2017 at 1:01 PM iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET The iPhone 8 could end up being an amazing, transformative 10th-anniversary iPhone. At first glance, iOS 11 doesn't seem quite so ambitious. It's more of a series of targeted upgrades, with some of them being downright fantastic. Apple's newest version of its operating system for iPhones and iPads doesn't formally arrive until later this year, but it's here in public beta form now. You can install it on your own iPads and iPhones, if you dare. Don't do so on your primary device, however, only experiment with it on a secondary device, and be ready for plenty of bugs. Betas do weird things sometimes and App Store apps aren't optimized for it yet anyway. I've already been using it for a few days, testing it on an iPhone 7 Plus (for this story) and a new 10.5-inch iPad Pro (to see all the extra features it adds on the iPad). With the caveat that this is a beta -- and not a feature-complete one at that -- here are my first impressions. The killer features: You can pluck the best shots from Live Photos When Live Photos first launched in 2015, they seemed clever but gimmicky. My brother-in-law asked me back then, can Live Photo pick another shot to grab a moment you thought you missed? It couldn't before, but it can now. Editing a Live Photo now allows any of the shots to become the "primary photo." Missed your kid's smile? Maybe you didn't. It's now a time machine for snapshots and a backup plan. I'm never turning it off after the iOS 11 upgrade. Added GIF-like loop effects and a nice long exposure trick are great too, but nothing beats editable shots. Pick your best shot. Sarah Tew/CNET A one-page Control Center The iPhone's handy swipe-up panel sprawled into a weird multi-page monster with iOS 10, but it fits on one pane in iOS 11. New features are added, too, and shortcuts to key apps can be added or removed like widgets. Nice adds are Notes, Voice Memo and a great Apple TV remote tool built-in. I can keep my lost Apple TV remote wedged in the sofa permanently. Still, it could have added even more. Control Center doesn't use 3D Touch as much as I thought it would to deep-dive further in settings. But, hey, it's progress. Control Center has sub-sections, now. Sarah Tew/CNET Screen recording It's not going to be for everyone, but it's so easy to start recording what you do on your iPhone, even add voice-over commentary and share as a video. How-to videos and self-help sites are going to benefit tremendously. Maybe I'd use this to show my mom how to adjust her phone settings the next time she calls -- I could just email the video. Marking up (almost) anything The next time you want to share what you see on your iPhone (or iPad), remember that screenshots (home plus the power button together) now launch a markup tool that lets you scribble or highlight anything. Well, almost anything... movies and protected videos ended up blacked out (on iOS 10, that doesn't happen). Circle a weird comment, add a note with your finger. Safari has a "markup as PDF" feature that does the same thing. It'll be great for Twitter or Facebook. In a similar vein, PDFs are easy to make and even add signatures to. A built-in scanner in Notes Apple's Notes app keeps getting serious upgrades, pushing it further into Evernote country. Tables can be added in iOS 11, and there's also a scanning tool to add receipts or other documents. It does a pretty good
RE: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET
Mary, you are forgetting, apple does not care about you any more. They will build product charge an darm and a leg . fi you want it you wwill buy it if not then you wont. That’s the attitude of apple lately. So I wold not bbe surprised that they will not bother to work on accessibility any more. Wahthe point if they are to get a few customrers to upgrade in the long run. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 5:06 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Full Article: iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET Well, if I'm understanding this correctly, I have to say I'm disappointed about the scanning in the PDF. Yet another excuse to have a not editable text in a PDF file. Very sad. Apple, if you care about excess ability, you'll change this. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 26, 2017, at 4:26 PM, M. Taylor wrote: > > CNET News - Monday, June 26, 2017 at 1:01 PM iOS 11 public beta: What > it does for the iPhone - CNET The iPhone 8 could end up being an > amazing, transformative 10th-anniversary iPhone. At first glance, iOS > 11 doesn't seem quite so ambitious. It's more of a series of targeted > upgrades, with some of them being downright fantastic. > Apple's newest version of its operating system for iPhones and iPads > doesn't formally arrive until later this year, but it's here in public > beta form now. You can install it on your own iPads and iPhones, if > you dare. Don't do so on your primary device, however, only experiment > with it on a secondary device, and be ready for plenty of bugs. Betas > do weird things sometimes and App Store apps aren't optimized for it yet > anyway. > I've already been using it for a few days, testing it on an iPhone 7 > Plus (for this story) and a new 10.5-inch iPad Pro (to see all the > extra features it adds on the iPad). With the caveat that this is a > beta -- and not a feature-complete one at that -- here are my first > impressions. > The killer features: > You can pluck the best shots from Live Photos When Live Photos first > launched in 2015, they seemed clever but gimmicky. My brother-in-law > asked me back then, can Live Photo pick another shot to grab a moment > you thought you missed? It couldn't before, but it can now. Editing a > Live Photo now allows any of the shots to become the "primary photo." > Missed your kid's smile? Maybe you didn't. It's now a time machine for > snapshots and a backup plan. I'm never turning it off after the iOS 11 > upgrade. Added GIF-like loop effects and a nice long exposure trick > are great too, but nothing beats editable shots. > > Pick your best shot. > Sarah Tew/CNET > A one-page Control Center > The iPhone's handy swipe-up panel sprawled into a weird multi-page > monster with iOS 10, but it fits on one pane in iOS 11. New features > are added, too, and shortcuts to key apps can be added or removed like > widgets. Nice adds are Notes, Voice Memo and a great Apple TV remote > tool built-in. I can keep my lost Apple TV remote wedged in the sofa > permanently. Still, it could have added even more. Control Center > doesn't use 3D Touch as much as I thought it would to deep-dive further in > settings. But, hey, it's progress. > > Control Center has sub-sections, now. > Sarah Tew/CNET > Screen recording > It's not going to be for everyone, but it's so easy to start recording > what you do on your iPhone, even add voice-over commentary and share as a > video. > How-to videos and self-help sites are going to benefit tremendously. > Maybe I'd use this to show my mom how to adjust her phone settings the > next time she calls -- I could just email the video. > Marking up (almost) anything > The next time you want to share what you see on your iPhone (or iPad), > remember that screenshots (home plus the power button together) now > launch a markup tool that lets you scribble or highlight anything. > Well, almost anything... movies and protected videos ended up blacked > out (on iOS 10, that doesn't happen). Circle a weird comment, add a note with > your finger. > Safari has a "markup as PDF" feature that does the same thing. It'll > be great for Twitter or Facebook. In a similar vein, PDFs are easy to > make and even add signatures to. > A built-in scanner in Notes > Apple's Notes app keeps getting serious upgrades, pushing it further > into Evernote country. Tables can be added in iOS 11, and there's also > a scanning tool to add receipts or other documents. It does a pretty > good job
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Well, if I'm understanding this correctly, I have to say I'm disappointed about the scanning in the PDF. Yet another excuse to have a not editable text in a PDF file. Very sad. Apple, if you care about excess ability, you'll change this. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 26, 2017, at 4:26 PM, M. Taylor wrote: > > CNET News - Monday, June 26, 2017 at 1:01 PM > iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET > The iPhone 8 could end up being an amazing, transformative 10th-anniversary > iPhone. At first glance, iOS 11 doesn't seem quite so ambitious. It's more > of a series of targeted upgrades, with some of them being downright > fantastic. > Apple's newest version of its operating system for iPhones and iPads doesn't > formally arrive until later this year, but it's here in public beta form > now. You can install it on your own iPads and iPhones, if you dare. Don't do > so on your primary device, however, only experiment with it on a secondary > device, and be ready for plenty of bugs. Betas do weird things sometimes and > App Store apps aren't optimized for it yet anyway. > I've already been using it for a few days, testing it on an iPhone 7 Plus > (for this story) and a new 10.5-inch iPad Pro (to see all the extra features > it adds on the iPad). With the caveat that this is a beta -- and not a > feature-complete one at that -- here are my first impressions. > The killer features: > You can pluck the best shots from Live Photos > When Live Photos first launched in 2015, they seemed clever but gimmicky. My > brother-in-law asked me back then, can Live Photo pick another shot to grab > a moment you thought you missed? It couldn't before, but it can now. Editing > a Live Photo now allows any of the shots to become the "primary photo." > Missed your kid's smile? Maybe you didn't. It's now a time machine for > snapshots and a backup plan. I'm never turning it off after the iOS 11 > upgrade. Added GIF-like loop effects and a nice long exposure trick are > great too, but nothing beats editable shots. > > Pick your best shot. > Sarah Tew/CNET > A one-page Control Center > The iPhone's handy swipe-up panel sprawled into a weird multi-page monster > with iOS 10, but it fits on one pane in iOS 11. New features are added, too, > and shortcuts to key apps can be added or removed like widgets. Nice adds > are Notes, Voice Memo and a great Apple TV remote tool built-in. I can keep > my lost Apple TV remote wedged in the sofa permanently. Still, it could have > added even more. Control Center doesn't use 3D Touch as much as I thought it > would to deep-dive further in settings. But, hey, it's progress. > > Control Center has sub-sections, now. > Sarah Tew/CNET > Screen recording > It's not going to be for everyone, but it's so easy to start recording what > you do on your iPhone, even add voice-over commentary and share as a video. > How-to videos and self-help sites are going to benefit tremendously. Maybe > I'd use this to show my mom how to adjust her phone settings the next time > she calls -- I could just email the video. > Marking up (almost) anything > The next time you want to share what you see on your iPhone (or iPad), > remember that screenshots (home plus the power button together) now launch a > markup tool that lets you scribble or highlight anything. Well, almost > anything... movies and protected videos ended up blacked out (on iOS 10, > that doesn't happen). Circle a weird comment, add a note with your finger. > Safari has a "markup as PDF" feature that does the same thing. It'll be > great for Twitter or Facebook. In a similar vein, PDFs are easy to make and > even add signatures to. > A built-in scanner in Notes > Apple's Notes app keeps getting serious upgrades, pushing it further into > Evernote country. Tables can be added in iOS 11, and there's also a scanning > tool to add receipts or other documents. It does a pretty good job > stretching and evening out off-angle scans, but it doesn't convert into > editable text. > > One-handed keyboard! > Sarah Tew/CNET > Some other things to try: > Siri sounds different and can translate > Siri is supposed to be somewhat smarter now. I didn't see a giant boost yet, > but Siri definitely sounds different. The "more natural" style actually > threw me off a bit. Siri's nicest new feature is instant audio translation > into French, German, Italian, Mandarin Chinese and Spanish. It's in beta -- > so be wary of relying on it in a serious setting -- but it's nice to have at > a quick button press. (Google Translate is still my go-to, though.) > One-handed keyboards > A little iOS 11 trick is to press and hold the "emoji" button in the > keyboard to get a new left- or right-hand-squished keyboard optimized for > one-handed typing. It's reminiscent of the old compressed keyboard on the > iPhone SE. > The Files app > There's now a place to consolidate folders and apps locally or in cloud > accounts. It's taking some getting used to in the beta, bu
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CNET News - Monday, June 26, 2017 at 1:01 PM iOS 11 public beta: What it does for the iPhone - CNET The iPhone 8 could end up being an amazing, transformative 10th-anniversary iPhone. At first glance, iOS 11 doesn't seem quite so ambitious. It's more of a series of targeted upgrades, with some of them being downright fantastic. Apple's newest version of its operating system for iPhones and iPads doesn't formally arrive until later this year, but it's here in public beta form now. You can install it on your own iPads and iPhones, if you dare. Don't do so on your primary device, however, only experiment with it on a secondary device, and be ready for plenty of bugs. Betas do weird things sometimes and App Store apps aren't optimized for it yet anyway. I've already been using it for a few days, testing it on an iPhone 7 Plus (for this story) and a new 10.5-inch iPad Pro (to see all the extra features it adds on the iPad). With the caveat that this is a beta -- and not a feature-complete one at that -- here are my first impressions. The killer features: You can pluck the best shots from Live Photos When Live Photos first launched in 2015, they seemed clever but gimmicky. My brother-in-law asked me back then, can Live Photo pick another shot to grab a moment you thought you missed? It couldn't before, but it can now. Editing a Live Photo now allows any of the shots to become the "primary photo." Missed your kid's smile? Maybe you didn't. It's now a time machine for snapshots and a backup plan. I'm never turning it off after the iOS 11 upgrade. Added GIF-like loop effects and a nice long exposure trick are great too, but nothing beats editable shots. Pick your best shot. Sarah Tew/CNET A one-page Control Center The iPhone's handy swipe-up panel sprawled into a weird multi-page monster with iOS 10, but it fits on one pane in iOS 11. New features are added, too, and shortcuts to key apps can be added or removed like widgets. Nice adds are Notes, Voice Memo and a great Apple TV remote tool built-in. I can keep my lost Apple TV remote wedged in the sofa permanently. Still, it could have added even more. Control Center doesn't use 3D Touch as much as I thought it would to deep-dive further in settings. But, hey, it's progress. Control Center has sub-sections, now. Sarah Tew/CNET Screen recording It's not going to be for everyone, but it's so easy to start recording what you do on your iPhone, even add voice-over commentary and share as a video. How-to videos and self-help sites are going to benefit tremendously. Maybe I'd use this to show my mom how to adjust her phone settings the next time she calls -- I could just email the video. Marking up (almost) anything The next time you want to share what you see on your iPhone (or iPad), remember that screenshots (home plus the power button together) now launch a markup tool that lets you scribble or highlight anything. Well, almost anything... movies and protected videos ended up blacked out (on iOS 10, that doesn't happen). Circle a weird comment, add a note with your finger. Safari has a "markup as PDF" feature that does the same thing. It'll be great for Twitter or Facebook. In a similar vein, PDFs are easy to make and even add signatures to. A built-in scanner in Notes Apple's Notes app keeps getting serious upgrades, pushing it further into Evernote country. Tables can be added in iOS 11, and there's also a scanning tool to add receipts or other documents. It does a pretty good job stretching and evening out off-angle scans, but it doesn't convert into editable text. One-handed keyboard! Sarah Tew/CNET Some other things to try: Siri sounds different and can translate Siri is supposed to be somewhat smarter now. I didn't see a giant boost yet, but Siri definitely sounds different. The "more natural" style actually threw me off a bit. Siri's nicest new feature is instant audio translation into French, German, Italian, Mandarin Chinese and Spanish. It's in beta -- so be wary of relying on it in a serious setting -- but it's nice to have at a quick button press. (Google Translate is still my go-to, though.) One-handed keyboards A little iOS 11 trick is to press and hold the "emoji" button in the keyboard to get a new left- or right-hand-squished keyboard optimized for one-handed typing. It's reminiscent of the old compressed keyboard on the iPhone SE. The Files app There's now a place to consolidate folders and apps locally or in cloud accounts. It's taking some getting used to in the beta, but it's finally a central place to dump your stuff. But, so far, I found I couldn't just instantly make folders on my iPhone without putting them into pre-existing folders... which is disappointing. Portrait mode for 7 Plus gets flash/HDR/effects Extra camera modes mean Portrait mode's bokeh-type effects can be used in more situations. 'Do Not Disturb While Driving' At long last, iPhones have a new filter to remove messages while driving. It's a more targeted variation of "