Re: [Mailman-Users] hide lists from listinfo page only (leaveonadmin page)
> By default, Python will only access modules in the Python libraries and > the directory that contains the current module. Modules in the bin/ > directory for example get around this by importing 'paths' which is > the bin/paths.py file which sets some additional directories in the > search paths. > > The easiest way to make this work for testing purposes is just to store > your test file in the $prefix directory, i.e. the directory that > contains the Mailman/, bin/, etc. directories. > A key thing in Python code is indentation because that's how Python > determines block structure. It is critical that things be indented > consistently and that either tabs or spaces but not a mixture be used > for indentation. The above snippet, properly indented looks like > > for name in listnames: > if name in notshowns: > continue > mlist = MailList.MailList(name, lock=0) > if mlist.advertised: > > It is critical that "if name in notshowns:" is indented exactly the > same amount as "mlist = MailList.MailList(name, lock=0)" and that > other indentation be preserved exactly as in the original. > Thank you so much for your help. I got it to work! I found out that I made two errors by testing the script from $PREFIX directory as you suggested. One was indentation. The other was the failure to clean up all the newlines when I extracted listnames that I wanted to hide from a file (one listname per line). Here is what I have now: myfile = '/var/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/notshown' noshowns = string.split(open(myfile).read()) noshowns.sort() for name in listnames: if name in noshowns: continue mlist = MailList.MailList(name, lock=0) if mlist.advertised: if mm_cfg.VIRTUAL_HOST_OVERVIEW and \ mlist.web_page_url.find(hostname) == -1: # List is for different identity of this host - skip it. continue else: advertised.append((mlist.GetScriptURL('listinfo'), mlist.real_name, mlist.description)) Since I need to store a few hundreds listnames in the file, I wonder if it might be better to use regular expressions. Five to six regular expressions should be sufficient to match all the list names I want to hide. Another option (if it is doable) is to use Mailman's supported advertise feature to hide these lists from both listinfo and admin page. I will subsequently bring up a third page, either a "sub-admin" page showing only those hidden course lists, or a "supper admin" page displaying all lists. The goal is that future upgrades won't entail re-customizing the previously customized package files. But I am afraid this may turn out to be so complicated as to involve security wrapper and other matters. I would be very grateful to have your feed back. Thanks. Xiaoyan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] debian exim4 and mailman pipe_transport unset
kick wrote: > >im using debian sarge 2.6 kernel and exim4 >my mailman is able to take subscriptions from the website and confirm >then no problem, >i get new member notifications and unsubscribes etc >the problem is no posts are getting through > >when i run exim4 -bt [EMAIL PROTECTED] >i get this > >R: system_aliases for [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[EMAIL PROTECTED] -> |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman >*** Error in setting up pipe, file, or autoreply: >pipe_transport unset in system_aliases router http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.019.htp may help. -- Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Fw: can't get replies back from list mailing...
Dr. Scott S. Jones wrote: > >When I posted my question to the list, I opened mutt, typed in my questions >and hit y to send it offI didn't send from any GUI mail client..just >mutt, composing my message with vim. Then I don't know why your post had no content other than a "-- " line, but it did have a "X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6" indicating that there was a non text/plain part removed. Both the original message and the message to which I'm replying indicate "User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i" and the latter message is a single text/plain part, so I can't explain what happened with the original. >Here's what I had posted: > >I have Mailman version 2.1.5 on my debian 3.1 system. > >I can mail OUT to list members, but if they attempt to reply back to the >list, or to the administrator, they (I included myself here) get an error >message telling that the address is untraceable or unroutable, i.e., that th >name of the list, for example [EMAIL PROTECTED] is unroutable. > >If I manually run 'adduser test59' to create a 'user' on my system with that >name, then that error is eliminated, but I still do not get any incoming >list email upon replies to list mailing. There is some issue with the configuration of the incoming MTA. If you are saying you can post to the list by mailing to [EMAIL PROTECTED], then presumably you have something (aliases) in the MTA that can pipe this address to Mailman, but it seems that perhaps whatever it is only works for mail originating from the localhost and not from outside. If you create the test59 user, then presumably the mail is delivered to that users mailbox, but that doesn't get it to Mailman. >Does any reference exist that tells the pathway of a message from send to >receive and then from Reply on recipient's end back to the mailman machine >serving this all up? Comments at the front of Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py give a rough idea of the flow of messages through Mailman. In addition to what's there, are the facts that a message to be sent out from Mailman is delivered via SMTP to the outgoing MTA and then by the MTA to the recipients. A reply back to the list is received by the incoming MTA and piped to the mail wrapper with the appropriate action and listname arguments. It is this last bit that apparently isn't working in your case, at least for mail originating outside localhost. -- Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] debian exim4 and mailman pipe_transport unset
hello, ive got a setup problem, im using debian sarge 2.6 kernel and exim4 my mailman is able to take subscriptions from the website and confirm then no problem, i get new member notifications and unsubscribes etc the problem is no posts are getting through when i run exim4 -bt [EMAIL PROTECTED] i get this R: system_aliases for [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -> |/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman *** Error in setting up pipe, file, or autoreply: pipe_transport unset in system_aliases router ive read the archives as deeply as i can and googled for ages ..but i think my brain is getting tired and if ive missed an obviouse answer im sorry, my exim.conf seems to be /etc/exim4/update-exim4.conf.conf (is there a command that will tell me exactly what the config file is???) ive setup mailman in /etc/aliases although i understand this may not be necessary (will it harm it?) ive also followed this http://www.tectonic.co.za/view.php?id=538 thanks in advance :) -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] embedded hostname in lists confirmation message
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >It seems that changing the "Host name this list prefers for email" >to just the domain name will fix this. But will this conflict with >anything else? If not, is there an easy name to script it for all >lists using withlists (ie what is the raw withlist command)? I must be missing something in your description of your configuration, but I don't understand why you are only concerned about the email domain in the subscription confirmation message. Don't you have the same problem with, for example, the list posting address on the listinfo page, the addresses in the RFC 2369 headers, etc.? In any case, there may be an issue in Mailman 2.1.5 and below if you just change a list's host_name and that host name is not an email host in an add_virtualhost() line in mm_cfg.py, because the Mailman.Archiver.Archiver.GetBaseArchiveURL() method inverts the VIRTUAL_HOSTS dictionary and looks up the list's host_name to get the corresponding url host. This is not an issue in 2.1.6 because it is done differently there, and in any case, it only affects public archives and only if there is more than one url host (i.e. if there actually are virtual hosts. Is there some reason why you don't want to change DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST in mm_cfg.py? If you were to do this, you could then run fix_url.py (via withlist) to change all the host_name attributes. If you really want to just change the host_name for all lists via withlist and make no other changes, you can make a file, say changehost.py in the bin/ directory containing (Warning!! untested use at your own risk) def changehost(mlist, hostname): if not mlist.Locked(): mlist.Lock() mlist.host_name = hostname mlist.Save() mlist.Unlock() and then run bin/withlist -a -r changehost new_host_name -- Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Debian & Postfix Mailman Config Issue
Mark Sapiro wrote: > > This is telling you that postfix doesn't know how to deliver this mail. > This is a Postfix configuration issue. Did you edit the three postfix > configuration files as described in the INSTALLATION section of the > comments at the beginning of postfix-to-mailman.py? If so, and you > still have this problem, you might have better luck persuing this on a > Postfix list. > Hi, Mark. That's the kicker... I've been over my configuration files five times before I sent this. The problem is, as I understand it, it *can't* work... any kind of anti-UCE secured system will reject the traffic as it can't prove the target address exists in the virtual domain. Which was why I was hoping someone on this list had actually made it work and could explain how they got around the issue. Thanks for your reply, either way. I'll repost my question to the postfix list and see if any of them over there have gotten it to work. If not, I'll have to use the "standard" way of implementing Postfix virtual domains under Mailman. -- -- Michel Vaillancourt Wolfstar Systems -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] members not receiving their own posts
Shillong Dotcom wrote: >Hi > { } Do not send a copy of a member's own post. > This option is NOT selected in our list. However, members donot receive >their own posts back in thrir email/inbox!!1 why?? > Am I missing something? This setting on the General Options page only controls the default for new members. For existing members, you have to look at the 'not metoo' setting in the Membership List. Also, if the member cc's herself in her own post and has 'nodupes' set, she will not receive the post from the list. -- Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Change email address
Stefan Henrico wrote: > >Is there an email command to change one's email address for a specific list? No. This has to be done via the web interface. If it must be done by email, the only way is subscribe and unsubscribe. -- Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Probe message bounce bounced (with qmail)
David Cuenca wrote: > >The failure notice message I receive is: > >Hi. This is the qmail-send program at myserver.mydomain.foo >I tried to deliver a bounce message to this address, but the bounce bounced! > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >... > > > >In the Defaults.py file I have: > ># VERP format and regexp for probe messages > >VERP_PROBE_FORMAT = '%(bounces)s+%(token)s' This controls the format of the address in the probe and makes it look like what you see above. >VERP_PROBE_REGEXP = r'^(?P[^+]+?)\+(?P[EMAIL PROTECTED])@.*$' This controls how Mailman parses the address in a probe bounce, but the probe bounce doesn't get to Mailman, so it doesn't come into play. >And I have the files: > >.qmail-default with: > > |preline /usr/bin/python /usr/local/mailman/bin/qmail-to-mailman.py > >.qmail-mylist-bounces-default with: > > |preline /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces myslist > > >I have mailman-2.1.5 and qmail-1.03 running. I don't know qmail configuration, but what I'm guessing is happening is some VERP configuration is missing from qmail so that qmail doesnt recognize that mail to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (or for that matter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) should be delivered as if it were addressed to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. > >So, I see that the bounces are counted properly until the probe message >is generated. I suppose that the user that causes the bounce message >will not be disabled, because mailman don't receives the probe message >bounce. I think you are correct. -- Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] embedded hostname in lists confirmation message
To protect our listserver, we disallow smtp to it from outside of our domains and push all mailman addresses (list-request, list-admin...) to our border. People then can address our lists as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Our borders have all the addresses for all the lists and, being within our domain, are able to forward the mail to the listserver. The prefered hostname is a cname that points to the actual host. This causes problem for those trying to subscribe themselves as the confirmation message tells them to reply to this address which has the restricted host address embedded within. Clicking on the webpage however does work. So one hacky way to fix this would be to rework the confirmation message to only include information about the weblink. It seems that changing the "Host name this list prefers for email" to just the domain name will fix this. But will this conflict with anything else? If not, is there an easy name to script it for all lists using withlists (ie what is the raw withlist command)? TIA =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- generated by /dev/dave -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= David SternUniversity of Maryland Institute for Advanced Computer Studies -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] hide lists from listinfo page only (leaveonadmin page)
Xiaoyan Ma wrote: >On Fri, 7 Oct 2005 10:12:48 -0700 > Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>>. >>>for name in listnames:(but not in notshowns) >> >Thank you. I just started learning python, so I wanted to find out if I am on >the right track >first. I have spent 2 hours on these few lines of code, but have not got it >to work yet. I tried >to run the listinfo.py file alone to debug and got the following message >(either running the >original file that came with the package or what I have modified): > > python /var/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/listinfo.py >Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/listinfo.py", line 25, in ? > from Mailman import mm_cfg >ImportError: No module named Mailman > >What did I miss? By default, Python will only access modules in the Python libraries and the directory that contains the current module. Modules in the bin/ directory for example get around this by importing 'paths' which is the bin/paths.py file which sets some additional directories in the search paths. The easiest way to make this work for testing purposes is just to store your test file in the $prefix directory, i.e. the directory that contains the Mailman/, bin/, etc. directories. >> >> Presumably this is pseudocode. It's not Python. Python might be >> >> for name in listnames: >> if name in notshowns: >> continue >> >> >>> mlist = MailList.MailList(name, lock=0) >>> if mlist.advertised: >>>... A key thing in Python code is indentation because that's how Python determines block structure. It is critical that things be indented consistently and that either tabs or spaces but not a mixture be used for indentation. The above snippet, properly indented looks like for name in listnames: if name in notshowns: continue mlist = MailList.MailList(name, lock=0) if mlist.advertised: It is critical that "if name in notshowns:" is indented exactly the same amount as "mlist = MailList.MailList(name, lock=0)" and that other indentation be preserved exactly as in the original. >Tha goal is to avoid clutter and subscription attempts. I think modify the >admin.py file as you >suggested might be a better option. Maybe require authentication to access >the admin page. Presumably you will have the lists' subscribe_policy set to 'Require approval'. I am only guessing, but I think that not showing the lists on the listinfo page would reduce the spurious subscription attempts to a level where manually rejecting them would not be too burdensome. I would guess there would certainly be no more subscription requests than non-member posts. What I'm saying here is that authenticating access to the admin overview page could be tricky (what password(s) would be used?) and may not be worth the trouble. -- Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] Debian Mailman Setup Question
On Sun, 2005-10-09 at 04:18 -0400, Michel Vaillancourt wrote: > Hello to the list. I am setting up my second mailman box; this one is > a > Debian 'Etch' installation. It is a Postfix MTA, with two domains that I > wish to host lists for on the one box. I am attempting to use the > '/var/lib/mailman/bin/postfix-to-mailman.py' file as a Postfix transport > engine, per the instructions. However, for some reason, I can't get Postfix > to accept mail for my testing list; it returns: > > 550 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Recipient address rejected: User > unknown in local recipient table > > I am presuming that there is a step that I have missed in the set-up, > but I > can't for the life of me figure out what it is. Can someone who has gotten > this working give me a shout and let me know what the "gotcha" is? Many > thanks in advance. This has nothing to do with mailman, it is a postfix configuration issue. Postfix can be configured to reject mail if the receipient is not local. You have this configuration setting in effect. I suspect your problem is that you don't include $alias_maps in the local_recipient_maps parameter in postfix's main.cf. This is very clearly documented in the comments in main.cf and the LOCAL_RECIPIENTS_README file that is part of the postfix distribution and available on www.postfix.org. You need the alias_maps because that is where you've defined mailman's email addresses. -- John Dennis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
Re: [Mailman-Users] members not receiving their own posts
Hello! On Mon, Oct 10, 2005 at 05:59:25PM +0530, Shillong Dotcom wrote: >Hi > { } Do not send a copy of a member's own post. > This option is NOT selected in our list. However, members donot receive >their own posts back in thrir email/inbox!!1 why?? > Am I missing something? > Bg I think the setting itself should be right. Do they receive other mail from the list? Kind regards, Hannah. -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] members not receiving their own posts
Hi { } Do not send a copy of a member's own post. This option is NOT selected in our list. However, members donot receive their own posts back in thrir email/inbox!!1 why?? Am I missing something? Bg -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Change email address
Hi guys Is there an email command to change one's email address for a specific list? -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
[Mailman-Users] Probe message bounce bounced (with qmail)
I'm getting a failure notice message when a mailing list probe message generates a bounce. It seems that I haven't configured qmail properly. Here there are details of my configuration and the error messages: The failure notice message I receive is: Hi. This is the qmail-send program at myserver.mydomain.foo I tried to deliver a bounce message to this address, but the bounce bounced! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: ... In the Defaults.py file I have: # VERP format and regexp for probe messages VERP_PROBE_FORMAT = '%(bounces)s+%(token)s' VERP_PROBE_REGEXP = r'^(?P[^+]+?)\+(?P[EMAIL PROTECTED])@.*$' And I have the files: .qmail-default with: |preline /usr/bin/python /usr/local/mailman/bin/qmail-to-mailman.py .qmail-mylist-bounces-default with: |preline /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman bounces myslist I have mailman-2.1.5 and qmail-1.03 running. So, I see that the bounces are counted properly until the probe message is generated. I suppose that the user that causes the bounce message will not be disabled, because mailman don't receives the probe message bounce. Can anyone help me, please?? Thanks a lot! -- Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp