date:20070626

Re: [Mailman-Users] moved lists and now they don't work

2007-06-26 Thread Mark Sapiro

Mark Sapiro wrote:

>>drw-rw   736 root  mailman  25024 Jun 26 19:55 ..
>
>
>This is the permission on /private/var/mailman/archives/private. You
>need g+sx. Also, in order for public archive access to work, you
>probably need o+x.
>
>If you look again at
>,
>you will see
>
>[msapiro at sb7 var]$ ls -ld mailman/archives/private
>drwxrws--x  74 root mailman 4096 May  4 09:30 mailman/archives/private/


It looks like there is a bug in check_perms. check_perms checks
archives/private to be sure it isn't o+r and also warns if it is o+x
although on most systems, it has to be for public archives to work,
but check_perms doesn't check for any user or group permissions on
archives/private nor does it even check to make sure it is o-w.

Sorry for all the trouble.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] moved lists and now they don't work

2007-06-26 Thread Mark Sapiro

carconni wrote:
>
>I know you guys aren't excited to hear this but it's running on an  
>xserve.  I think there may have been an error in how I was told to  
>move mailman...
>
>does this look right?
>
>corp-admin2:/private/var/mailman/archives/private root# ls -la ops.mbox/
>total 80
>drwxrwsr-x 3 root  mailman102 Jun 18 13:30 .
>drw-rw   736 root  mailman  25024 Jun 26 19:55 ..


This is the permission on /private/var/mailman/archives/private. You
need g+sx. Also, in order for public archive access to work, you
probably need o+x.

If you look again at
,
you will see

[msapiro at sb7 var]$ ls -ld mailman/archives/private
drwxrws--x  74 root mailman 4096 May  4 09:30 mailman/archives/private/


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Re: [Mailman-Users] moved lists and now they don't work

2007-06-26 Thread carconni

Hi,

I know you guys aren't excited to hear this but it's running on an  
xserve.  I think there may have been an error in how I was told to  
move mailman...

does this look right?

corp-admin2:/private/var/mailman/archives/private root# ls -la ops.mbox/
total 80
drwxrwsr-x 3 root  mailman102 Jun 18 13:30 .
drw-rw   736 root  mailman  25024 Jun 26 19:55 ..
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root  mailman  37806 Jun 18 13:30 ops.mbox

corp-admin2:/private/var/mailman/archives/private root# ls -la ops
total 8
drwxrwsr-x 3 root  mailman102 Jun 26 19:56 .
drw-rw   736 root  mailman  25024 Jun 26 19:55 ..
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root  mailman   1040 Jun 26 19:55 index.html

On Jun 26, 2007, at 8:55 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:

> carconni wrote:
>>
>> I'm still having trouble...
>>
>> I removed everything in /private/var/mailman/archives/public/ but
>> Mailman didn't replace the symlinks and when I tried to create the
>> symlinks, Mailman got really confused.  My lists are down and I don't
>> know how to recover them.
>>
>> corp-admin2:/private/var/mailman/archives/public root# ls -l
>> corp-admin2:/private/var/mailman/archives/public root#
>>
>>
>> I've run check permissions dozen's of times:
>>
>> corp-admin2:/private/var/mailman/archives/public root# /usr/share/
>> mailman/bin/check_perms -f
>> No problems found
>> corp-admin2:/private/var/mailman/archives/public root#
>>
>> yet my error logs show permission errors.  I've tried changing owners
>> from mailman:mailman to root:mailman and back again - I've made
>> directories world readable but I still get these errors...
>
>
> Are you running SeLinux or some other kind of security policy that is
> denying access?
>
>
>> Jun 26 19:13:08 2007 (10311) SHUNTING: 1182910388.3509221
>> +37c9f7ce90d565375941efb6b3a61c9ad826
>> Jun 26 19:13:28 2007 (10311) Archive file access failure:
>> /private/var/mailman/archives/private/customer-us.mbox/
>> customer-us.mbox [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/private/var/mailman/
>> archives/private/customer-us.mbox/customer-us.mbox'
>>
>>  corp-admin2:/private/var/mailman/archives/private root# cd  
>> customer-us
>
>
> And what if you
>
>cd customer-us.mbox
>ls -la
>
>
>>  corp-admin2:/private/var/mailman/archives/private/customer-us root#
>> ls -l
>>  total 5200
>>  drwxrwsr-x   8 root  mailman  272 Jun 26 14:33 2007-June
>>  -rw-rw-r--   1 root  mailman  2654504 Jun 26 14:33 2007-June.txt
>>  drw-rw   2 root  mailman   68 Jun 26 14:33 database
>>  -rw-rw-r--   1 root  mailman  479 Jun 18 13:30 index.html
>>
>> Jun 26 19:13:28 2007 (10311) Uncaught runner exception: [Errno 13]
>> Permission denied: '/private/var/mailman/archives/private/customer-
>> us.mbox/customer-us.mbox'
>> Jun 26 19:13:28 2007 (10311) Traceback (most recent call last):
>>   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 111, in
>> _oneloop
>> self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
>>   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 167, in
>> _onefile
>> keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata)
>>   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/ArchRunner.py", line 73, in
>> _dispose
>> mlist.ArchiveMail(msg)
>>   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 199,
>> in ArchiveMail
>> self.__archive_to_mbox(msg)
>>   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 168,
>> in __archive_to_mbox
>> mbox = self.__archive_file(afn)
>>   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 156,
>> in __archive_file
>> return Mailbox.Mailbox(open(afn, 'a+'))
>> IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/private/var/mailman/ 
>> archives/
>> private/customer-us.mbox/customer-us.mbox'
>>
>>
>> Jun 26 19:23:03 2007 (10314) SHUNTING: 1182910982.1765511
>> +4636bcd0509b8d4fc66200d2a26b32dc929f0e06
>> Jun 26 19:23:13 2007 (10314) Uncaught runner exception: [Errno 13]
>> Permission denied: '/private/var/mailman/archives/private/ops'
>> Jun 26 19:23:13 2007 (10314) Traceback (most recent call last):
>>   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 111, in
>> _oneloop
>> self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
>>   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 167, in
>> _onefile
>> keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata)
>>   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line
>> 130, in _dispose
>> more = self._dopipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline)
>>   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line
>> 153, in _dopipeline
>> sys.modules[modname].process(mlist, msg, msgdata)
>>   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 91,
>> in process
>> send_digests(mlist, mboxfp)
>>   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 132,
>> in send_digests
>> send_i18n_digests(mlist, mboxfp)
>>   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 306,
>> in send_i18n_digests
>> msg = scrubber(mlist, msg)
>>   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Han

Re: [Mailman-Users] moved lists and now they don't work

2007-06-26 Thread Mark Sapiro

carconni wrote:
>
>I'm still having trouble...
>
>I removed everything in /private/var/mailman/archives/public/ but  
>Mailman didn't replace the symlinks and when I tried to create the  
>symlinks, Mailman got really confused.  My lists are down and I don't  
>know how to recover them.
>
>corp-admin2:/private/var/mailman/archives/public root# ls -l
>corp-admin2:/private/var/mailman/archives/public root#
>
>
>I've run check permissions dozen's of times:
>
>corp-admin2:/private/var/mailman/archives/public root# /usr/share/ 
>mailman/bin/check_perms -f
>No problems found
>corp-admin2:/private/var/mailman/archives/public root#
>
>yet my error logs show permission errors.  I've tried changing owners  
>from mailman:mailman to root:mailman and back again - I've made  
>directories world readable but I still get these errors...


Are you running SeLinux or some other kind of security policy that is
denying access?


>Jun 26 19:13:08 2007 (10311) SHUNTING: 1182910388.3509221 
>+37c9f7ce90d565375941efb6b3a61c9ad826
>Jun 26 19:13:28 2007 (10311) Archive file access failure:
> /private/var/mailman/archives/private/customer-us.mbox/ 
>customer-us.mbox [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/private/var/mailman/ 
>archives/private/customer-us.mbox/customer-us.mbox'
>
>   corp-admin2:/private/var/mailman/archives/private root# cd customer-us


And what if you

   cd customer-us.mbox
   ls -la


>   corp-admin2:/private/var/mailman/archives/private/customer-us root#  
>ls -l
>   total 5200
>   drwxrwsr-x   8 root  mailman  272 Jun 26 14:33 2007-June
>   -rw-rw-r--   1 root  mailman  2654504 Jun 26 14:33 2007-June.txt
>   drw-rw   2 root  mailman   68 Jun 26 14:33 database
>   -rw-rw-r--   1 root  mailman  479 Jun 18 13:30 index.html
>
>Jun 26 19:13:28 2007 (10311) Uncaught runner exception: [Errno 13]  
>Permission denied: '/private/var/mailman/archives/private/customer- 
>us.mbox/customer-us.mbox'
>Jun 26 19:13:28 2007 (10311) Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 111, in  
>_oneloop
> self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
>   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 167, in  
>_onefile
> keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata)
>   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/ArchRunner.py", line 73, in  
>_dispose
> mlist.ArchiveMail(msg)
>   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 199,  
>in ArchiveMail
> self.__archive_to_mbox(msg)
>   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 168,  
>in __archive_to_mbox
> mbox = self.__archive_file(afn)
>   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 156,  
>in __archive_file
> return Mailbox.Mailbox(open(afn, 'a+'))
>IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/private/var/mailman/archives/ 
>private/customer-us.mbox/customer-us.mbox'
>
>
>Jun 26 19:23:03 2007 (10314) SHUNTING: 1182910982.1765511 
>+4636bcd0509b8d4fc66200d2a26b32dc929f0e06
>Jun 26 19:23:13 2007 (10314) Uncaught runner exception: [Errno 13]  
>Permission denied: '/private/var/mailman/archives/private/ops'
>Jun 26 19:23:13 2007 (10314) Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 111, in  
>_oneloop
> self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
>   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 167, in  
>_onefile
> keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata)
>   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line  
>130, in _dispose
> more = self._dopipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline)
>   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line  
>153, in _dopipeline
> sys.modules[modname].process(mlist, msg, msgdata)
>   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 91,  
>in process
> send_digests(mlist, mboxfp)
>   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 132,  
>in send_digests
> send_i18n_digests(mlist, mboxfp)
>   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 306,  
>in send_i18n_digests
> msg = scrubber(mlist, msg)
>   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py", line 227,  
>in process
> url = save_attachment(mlist, part, dir, filter_html=False)
>   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py", line 352,  
>in save_attachment
> makedirs(fsdir)
>   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py", line 339,  
>in makedirs
> os.makedirs(dir, 02775)
>   File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.3/lib/ 
>python2.3/os.py", line 153, in makedirs
>   File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.3/lib/ 
>python2.3/os.py", line 153, in makedirs
>   File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.3/lib/ 
>python2.3/os.py", line 153, in makedirs
>   File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.3/lib/ 
>python2.3/os.py", line 154, in makedirs
>OSError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/pr

Re: [Mailman-Users] Member only list?

2007-06-26 Thread Mark Sapiro

Leslie Herps wrote:
>> 
>> The problem is the list is not explicitly addressed in the To: or Cc:
>> headers of the post.
>
>Right!
>That was it. Since the rackstar system is designed for virtual hosting, I
>made it so each list gets a unique name. So that multiple sites can have a
>list called "info". Rackstar will internally name them 53-info and 69-info,
>etc.
>
>I did setup aliases to forward [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>But, apparently, it did not take. How do I make it so it does take that?

The alias works to direct the envelope to the desired address, but it
doesn't rewrite the contents of the To: header in the post. Your MTA
may be able to do that or it may not.

Given your situation, I think the easiest solution is to just set
require_explicit_destination off.

>Next up:
>1) OPEN List
># Set misc settings
>generic_nonmember_action = 0
>default_member_moderation = no
>subscribe_policy = 0
>max_message_size = 50
>reply_goes_to_list = 1
>
>---> NO verification required, but does need mod approval for subscribing
>---> STILL requires mod approval of the message (non member)

And what is the reason for which the message is held?

>3) CLOSED (all posts req mod approval)
># Set misc settings
>default_member_moderation = yes
>member_moderation_action = 1
>member_moderation_notice = 'Sorry, subscribers cannot post to this list.'
>generic_nonmember_action = 1
>subscribe_policy = 2
>max_message_size = 50
>reply_goes_to_list = 1
>
>---> MEMBER POSTS: Messages are PROCESSED, not held for approval.
>---> NON MEMBER POST: Approval. So this is good.
>---> MOD APPROVAL required for subscribing. Good.
>
>
>Etc etc.
>
>So I guess I am asking, (and god I've googled!!), how do I, using
>config_list, create the following scenario's
>
>1) EVERYONE can post to the list. Members or non menmers
>2) only members can post
>3) any message, member or no member, requires mod approva.

This (1-3) was your question in the original post in this thread. The
settings you indicated in that post (see, e.g.
)
are appropriate for what you want.

As we now see, there was a special circumstance in your installation
which caused posts to be held for implicit destination.

We can't anticipate all these things which is why when a post is
unexpectedly held, we need to know the reason why it is being held.

This reason is available in the 'your message is held for approval'
notice to the poster, in the notice to the moderator, in the admindb
interface and in Mailman's vette log.

So for what reason is the post held? Tell us that, and we can tell you
what to change.

>4) anyone can sign up, no verification or approval required.
>5) verification required, no approval required
>6) verification + approval required

4-6 are tricky because they depend on the mm_cfg.py setting if any for
ALLOW_OPEN_SUBSCRIBE. If you have

ALLOW_OPEN_SUBSCRIBE = Yes

in mm_cfg.py, the config_list settings for subscribe_policy for cases
4-6 are respectively 0, 1 and 3. If you don't have

ALLOW_OPEN_SUBSCRIBE = Yes

in mm_cfg.py, the settings for subscribe_policy for cases 5 and 6 are
respectively 0 and 2, and case 4 cannot be set via subscribe_policy.
Case 4 can be set via

mlist.subscribe_policy = 0

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Re: [Mailman-Users] moved lists and now they don't work

2007-06-26 Thread carconni

Hi,

I'm still having trouble...

I removed everything in /private/var/mailman/archives/public/ but  
Mailman didn't replace the symlinks and when I tried to create the  
symlinks, Mailman got really confused.  My lists are down and I don't  
know how to recover them.

corp-admin2:/private/var/mailman/archives/public root# ls -l
corp-admin2:/private/var/mailman/archives/public root#


I've run check permissions dozen's of times:

corp-admin2:/private/var/mailman/archives/public root# /usr/share/ 
mailman/bin/check_perms -f
No problems found
corp-admin2:/private/var/mailman/archives/public root#

yet my error logs show permission errors.  I've tried changing owners  
from mailman:mailman to root:mailman and back again - I've made  
directories world readable but I still get these errors...

Jun 26 19:13:08 2007 (10311) SHUNTING: 1182910388.3509221 
+37c9f7ce90d565375941efb6b3a61c9ad826
Jun 26 19:13:28 2007 (10311) Archive file access failure:
 /private/var/mailman/archives/private/customer-us.mbox/ 
customer-us.mbox [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/private/var/mailman/ 
archives/private/customer-us.mbox/customer-us.mbox'

corp-admin2:/private/var/mailman/archives/private root# cd customer-us
corp-admin2:/private/var/mailman/archives/private/customer-us root#  
ls -l
total 5200
drwxrwsr-x   8 root  mailman  272 Jun 26 14:33 2007-June
-rw-rw-r--   1 root  mailman  2654504 Jun 26 14:33 2007-June.txt
drw-rw   2 root  mailman   68 Jun 26 14:33 database
-rw-rw-r--   1 root  mailman  479 Jun 18 13:30 index.html

Jun 26 19:13:28 2007 (10311) Uncaught runner exception: [Errno 13]  
Permission denied: '/private/var/mailman/archives/private/customer- 
us.mbox/customer-us.mbox'
Jun 26 19:13:28 2007 (10311) Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 111, in  
_oneloop
 self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 167, in  
_onefile
 keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata)
   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/ArchRunner.py", line 73, in  
_dispose
 mlist.ArchiveMail(msg)
   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 199,  
in ArchiveMail
 self.__archive_to_mbox(msg)
   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 168,  
in __archive_to_mbox
 mbox = self.__archive_file(afn)
   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 156,  
in __archive_file
 return Mailbox.Mailbox(open(afn, 'a+'))
IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/private/var/mailman/archives/ 
private/customer-us.mbox/customer-us.mbox'


Jun 26 19:23:03 2007 (10314) SHUNTING: 1182910982.1765511 
+4636bcd0509b8d4fc66200d2a26b32dc929f0e06
Jun 26 19:23:13 2007 (10314) Uncaught runner exception: [Errno 13]  
Permission denied: '/private/var/mailman/archives/private/ops'
Jun 26 19:23:13 2007 (10314) Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 111, in  
_oneloop
 self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 167, in  
_onefile
 keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata)
   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line  
130, in _dispose
 more = self._dopipeline(mlist, msg, msgdata, pipeline)
   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Queue/IncomingRunner.py", line  
153, in _dopipeline
 sys.modules[modname].process(mlist, msg, msgdata)
   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 91,  
in process
 send_digests(mlist, mboxfp)
   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 132,  
in send_digests
 send_i18n_digests(mlist, mboxfp)
   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/ToDigest.py", line 306,  
in send_i18n_digests
 msg = scrubber(mlist, msg)
   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py", line 227,  
in process
 url = save_attachment(mlist, part, dir, filter_html=False)
   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py", line 352,  
in save_attachment
 makedirs(fsdir)
   File "/usr/share/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/Scrubber.py", line 339,  
in makedirs
 os.makedirs(dir, 02775)
   File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.3/lib/ 
python2.3/os.py", line 153, in makedirs
   File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.3/lib/ 
python2.3/os.py", line 153, in makedirs
   File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.3/lib/ 
python2.3/os.py", line 153, in makedirs
   File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.3/lib/ 
python2.3/os.py", line 154, in makedirs
OSError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/private/var/mailman/archives/ 
private/ops'

Jun 26 19:23:13 2007 (10314) SHUNTING: 1182910992.721427 
+d396922f361992f9d2b65e96d4763591331f5010


drwxrwsr-x9 root mailman  306 Jun 26 18:49 ops
drwxrwsr-x3 root mailman  102 Ju

Re: [Mailman-Users] Member only list?

2007-06-26 Thread Leslie Herps

> >> > The reason it is being held:
> >> >
> >> > Message has implicit destination
> >>
> >> Have you read http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?
> >> req=show&file=faq01.009.htp
> >> regarding this message?
> 
> Reread item 2) (one sentence) in FAQ 1.9.
> 
> The problem is the list is not explicitly addressed in the To: or Cc:
> headers of the post.

Right!
That was it. Since the rackstar system is designed for virtual hosting, I
made it so each list gets a unique name. So that multiple sites can have a
list called "info". Rackstar will internally name them 53-info and 69-info,
etc.

I did setup aliases to forward [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
But, apparently, it did not take. How do I make it so it does take that?

Next up:
1) OPEN List
# Set misc settings
generic_nonmember_action = 0
default_member_moderation = no
subscribe_policy = 0
max_message_size = 50
reply_goes_to_list = 1

---> NO verification required, but does need mod approval for subscribing
---> STILL requires mod approval of the message (non member)

3) CLOSED (all posts req mod approval)
# Set misc settings
default_member_moderation = yes
member_moderation_action = 1
member_moderation_notice = 'Sorry, subscribers cannot post to this list.'
generic_nonmember_action = 1
subscribe_policy = 2
max_message_size = 50
reply_goes_to_list = 1

---> MEMBER POSTS: Messages are PROCESSED, not held for approval.
---> NON MEMBER POST: Approval. So this is good.
---> MOD APPROVAL required for subscribing. Good.


Etc etc.

So I guess I am asking, (and god I've googled!!), how do I, using
config_list, create the following scenario's

1) EVERYONE can post to the list. Members or non menmers
2) only members can post
3) any message, member or no member, requires mod approva.

4) anyone can sign up, no verification or approval required.
5) verification required, no approval required
6) verification + approval required

I hope someone can help me out. I've been searching like crazy ;)

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Re: [Mailman-Users] post formatting and timing

2007-06-26 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull

Mark Sapiro writes:

 > I don't know if there is a standard that says your MUA 'should'
 > recognize a single  in the decoded text as a line break,

Since it's in UTF-8, Unicode does, Technical Annex #14.  Conformance
is required by Unicode 4.0.

Of course if the MUA doesn't claim conformance to Unicode there's no
requirement, and AFAIK there's nothing in RFC 2822 or the MIME RFCs
that requires conformance to any text standard beyond ASCII.  However,
most Unicode requirements are considered "best current practice".
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Re: [Mailman-Users] Member only list?

2007-06-26 Thread Mark Sapiro

Leslie Herps wrote apparently in response to an off list message:
>
>> > The reason it is being held:
>> >
>> > Message has implicit destination
>> 
>> Have you read http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?
>> req=show&file=faq01.009.htp
>> regarding this message?
>
>Thanks for this link.
>
>It is not an umbrella list (or am I mistaking umbrella for something else
>here? Please elaborate), and the domain is fine...


Reread item 2) (one sentence) in FAQ 1.9.

The problem is the list is not explicitly addressed in the To: or Cc:
headers of the post.


>Do you think if I enfore "require_explicit_destination = 0", it will work?


That is one way to avoid THIS hold. The other is to make sure that the
post is actually explicitly addressed to the list.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Member only list?

2007-06-26 Thread Leslie Herps

Hi Dan,

> > The reason it is being held:
> >
> > Message has implicit destination
> 
> Have you read http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?
> req=show&file=faq01.009.htp
> regarding this message?

Thanks for this link.

It is not an umbrella list (or am I mistaking umbrella for something else
here? Please elaborate), and the domain is fine...

Do you think if I enfore "require_explicit_destination = 0", it will work?

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Member only list?

2007-06-26 Thread Leslie Herps

Hi Mark / mailman user list,

Hope you still remember me. Sorry, been VERY busy...
Below is a brief summary of our previous exchange of mails. Beneath it are
my finding whilst debugging some more...

> >> What is the reason why the post is held? You will find the reason in
> >> the admindb interface, in the notice to the admin and in Mailman's
> >> vette log.
> >
> >It says, "dear moderator, the following message awaits your approval", or
> >something like that... You know, the standard "moderator approval
> request".
> 
> And it also gives the subject of the post and the reason it was held
> such as "post by non member", "implicit destination", "too big". or
> some such.
> 
> If you don't currently have the notice, you can find the held message
> entries with reasons in Mailman's vette log. What are the reasons the
> posts are held?

1) OPEN List
Config settings:
# Set misc settings
generic_nonmember_action = 0
default_member_moderation = no
subscribe_policy = 2
max_message_size = 50
reply_goes_to_list = 1

2) MEMBER posting only
# Set misc settings
default_member_moderation = no
generic_nonmember_action = 2
subscribe_policy = 2
max_message_size = 50
reply_goes_to_list = 1

3) CLOSED (all posts req mod approval)
# Set misc settings
default_member_moderation = yes
member_moderation_action = 1
member_moderation_notice = 'Sorry, subscribers cannot post to this list.'
generic_nonmember_action = 1
subscribe_policy = 2
max_message_size = 50
reply_goes_to_list = 1

Now, in ALL cases, I end up with an email like this:

Subject: Your message to 53-debuglist awaits moderator approval

Your mail to '53-debuglist' with the subject

hiya

Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval.

The reason it is being held:

Message has implicit destination

Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive
notification of the moderator's decision.  If you would like to cancel
this posting, please visit the following URL:

 
http://www.test.com/mailman/confirm/53-debuglist/6a91ccdb4acaf7e5bd237e3059b
90d1439c8423d


(of course I did make member, etc. NO mail is sent to list admin! Only THIS
mail is sent to the sender...)

Furthermore, as you can see from the configs above, I am also trying to
create 3 options for subscribing: Open (no approval of verification req,
verification req, approval by mod required)

However, in ALL cases, I get an email to confirm my address. NO mod
approvals, no nothing. Also, in "open" mode (no verification), I DO get a
verification request.

I am working on the www.rackstar.net project. This used to have majordomo,
which sucks. I am replacing it with mailman, which is a LOT better.
However, I can NOT use the interface mailman offers for the above, because
the rackstar interface has to do this. How I do it now is create a text
file, and use config_list to generate the configuration.
This must be possible... Right?

Hope you have a solution for me.

Thanks!
Leslie

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Re: [Mailman-Users] post formatting and timing

2007-06-26 Thread Ivan Van Laningham

Hi All--


Mark Sapiro wrote:
> 
> I don't know if there is a standard that says your MUA 'should'
> recognize a single  in the decoded text as a line break, but of
> five MUA's I just tried, four - Ultrafunk Popcorn 1.76, Mozilla
> Thunderbird 2.0.0.4, MS Outlook Express 6 and Mutt 1.4.2.1i - all
> rendered  in the decoded text as a line break. The fifth -
> Qualcomm Eudora 5.2 (very old) - didn't decode the base64 encoded text
> at all, it just displayed the raw base64 encoded data.
> 

I think something else is going on, besides just the  only line 
ending.  I'm using two versions of T-Bird, 1.5 and 2.0 something, and 
both display the message concerned the same way, all crammed together on 
a single line.  I think there must be some encoding issue.  It probably 
is some configuration issue with T-Bird, but I've not been able to find it.

Metta,
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[Mailman-Users] Mail from GioMBG > hack this into /etc/httpd/modsecurity.d/modsecurity_crs_30_http_policy.conf to alowed mod_security + mailman into fedora 7 moonshine with mod_security

2007-06-26 Thread Gio MBG Canepa root

MANY Thanks Jeffrey!
SINCERLY!
I have resolved with this hack into my:
/etc/httpd/modsecurity.d/modsecurity_crs_30_http_policy.conf
Simply I have commented:
SecRule REQUEST_BASENAME
as
# SecRule REQUEST_BASENAME
I think that is the minor hack to prevent this kind of 
apache+mod_security+mailman error and to alowed the .shtml file extension in my 
html...
YES You have just resolved not one but the 2 unique most bad problem into my 
newest monshine (fedora7)!
MANY THANKs!
GioMBG

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# Restrict file extension
#
# TODO the list of file extensions below are virtually always considered unsafe
#  and not in use in any valid program. If your application uses one of 
#  these extensions, please remove it from the list of blocked extensions.
#  You may need to use ModSecurity Core Rule Set Templates to do so, 
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#  comment the whole rule.   
#
# SecRule REQUEST_BASENAME 
"\.(?:c(?:o(?:nf(?:ig)?|m)|s(?:proj|r)?|dx|er|fg|md)|p(?:rinter|ass|db|ol|wd)|v(?:b(?:proj|s)?|sdisco)|a(?:s(?:ax?|cx)|xd)|s(?:html?|ql|tm|ys)|d(?:bf?|at|ll|os)|i(?:d[acq]|n[ci])|ba(?:[kt]|ckup)|res(?:ources|x)|l(?:icx|nk|og)|\w{,5}~|webinfo|ht[rw]|xs[dx]|exe|key|mdb|old)$"
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Re: [Mailman-Users] post formatting and timing

2007-06-26 Thread Mark Sapiro

Mark Sapiro wrote:
>
>My guess (I haven't actually looked at the raw decoded message) is that
>the decoded plain text has *nix  only line endings as opposed to
> endings. This would not violate RFC 2821 as the data on the
>wire is the base64 encoded data, not the original text.

I have now looked, and in today's two base64 encoded posts in the
"export list subscribers list" thread, the decoded message body does
have text with only  as a line ending.

So,

>I think the issue may be that your MUA doesn't recognize a single 
>in the decoded text as a line break.

I don't know if there is a standard that says your MUA 'should'
recognize a single  in the decoded text as a line break, but of
five MUA's I just tried, four - Ultrafunk Popcorn 1.76, Mozilla
Thunderbird 2.0.0.4, MS Outlook Express 6 and Mutt 1.4.2.1i - all
rendered  in the decoded text as a line break. The fifth -
Qualcomm Eudora 5.2 (very old) - didn't decode the base64 encoded text
at all, it just displayed the raw base64 encoded data.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Is it possible to reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] not to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2007-06-26 Thread Mark Sapiro

Brad Knowles wrote:

>On 6/26/07, TRON478 wrote:
>
>>  when i get a mail from my mail i can reply to the list via the adress
>>
>>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>  but i want to reply via
>>
>>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>  is this possible?
>
>This is a client problem.


Agreed.

See

for some more information on this.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] post formatting and timing

2007-06-26 Thread Mark Sapiro

Michael Welch wrote:

>Hi again. The problem seemed cured, now I am getting garbled posts again.


Here's my guess about the 'missing' line returns.

The original posts in the "I lost my patch  :-(" thread were in charset
utf-8 and were base64 encoded. So were a couple of the posts in
today's "export list subscribers list" thread.

My guess (I haven't actually looked at the raw decoded message) is that
the decoded plain text has *nix  only line endings as opposed to
 endings. This would not violate RFC 2821 as the data on the
wire is the base64 encoded data, not the original text.

I think the issue may be that your MUA doesn't recognize a single 
in the decoded text as a line break.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] export list subscribers list

2007-06-26 Thread Mark Sapiro

TRON478 wrote:
>
>is it possible to export the subscribers list of a list to a text, csv or
>another file format?



See
.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 40, Issue 41

2007-06-26 Thread shuklapr

hey..pple..

me prat from india...
can any one tell me wat is all you pple disscuss here..
i mean how it's important...
i mean where it is used...
i'll be really helpful to you..
thanks..
prat...

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Re: [Mailman-Users] mail from GioMBG > fresh installation of mailman but Internal Server Error (only on edit some users) remain!

2007-06-26 Thread Jeffrey Goldberg


[mailed and posted]

On Jun 26, 2007, at 10:10 AM, Gio MBG Canepa root wrote:


Hi  Mark!
---| Here the apache error Log: |---
[Tue Jun 26 17:03:00 2007] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] ModSecurity:  
Access
denied with code 500 (phase 1). Pattern match ".(?:c(?:o(?:nf 
(?:ig)?|m)|
s(?:proj|r)?|dx|er|fg|md)|p(?:rinter|ass|db|ol|wd)|v(?:b(?:proj|s)?| 
sdisco)|
a(?:s(?:ax?|cx)|xd)|s(?:html?|ql|tm|ys)|d(?:bf?|at|ll|os)|i(?:d 
[acq]|n[ci])|
ba(?:[kt]|ckup)|res(?:ources|x)|l(?:icx|nk|og)|w{,5}~|webinfo|ht 
[rw]|

xs ..." at REQUEST_BASENAME. [id "960035"] [msg "URL file extension is
restricted by policy"] [severity "CRITICAL"] [hostname "home. 
9records.com"]

[uri "/mailman/options/mailman/alexkenji--at--alexkenji.com"]


That answers the question.  Your apache add-on of mod_security is not  
allowing access to any URI ending with ".com".


You may wish to disable mod_security for the mailman directory.  I  
don't know how to do that, having never used mod_security (which  
isn't part of the normal apache distribution).


Looking at the documentation at

  http://www.modsecurity.org/documentation/modsecurity-apache/2.1.0/ 
html-multipage/03-configuration-directives.html


it looks like setting

  SecRuleEngine off

within the appropriate  or   of your apache
configuration should solve the problem.

But keep in mind that this is the first time I've ever looked at  
mod_security, so don't put a great deal of trust in my suggestion.


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Re: [Mailman-Users] post formatting and timing

2007-06-26 Thread Michael Welch

Thanks Brad & Dan for straightening me out. Kinda embarrassing, since I am a 
header watcher.

Peace.

Brad Knowles wrote at 09:29 AM 06/26/2007:
 
>On 6/26/07, Michael Welch wrote:
>
>> Hi again. The problem seemed cured, now I am getting garbled posts again.
>>
>> Further, this post took a full 6 days to show up after I sent it.
>>
>> Maybe I am on moderation, and the moderator is slow at checking in. Or ??
>
>Try checking your headers again:
>
>Received: from homepower.com (rickgermany.com [72.32.57.52])
>by bag.python.org (Postfix) with ESMTP
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>13:20:00 +0200 (CEST)
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>[66.126.233.22] by homepower.com with SMTP; Wed,
>20 Jun 2007 19:15:19 -0700
>
>Whatever machine is running homepower.com, they delayed your mail, not us.
>
>Moreover, mailman-users is one of the very few mailman-* lists where new 
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>able to post immediately.
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Re: [Mailman-Users] post formatting and timing

2007-06-26 Thread Brad Knowles

On 6/26/07, Michael Welch wrote:

>  Hi again. The problem seemed cured, now I am getting garbled posts again.
>
>  Further, this post took a full 6 days to show up after I sent it.
>
>  Maybe I am on moderation, and the moderator is slow at checking in. Or ??

Try checking your headers again:

Received: from homepower.com (rickgermany.com [72.32.57.52])
by bag.python.org (Postfix) with ESMTP
for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2007
13:20:00 +0200 (CEST)
Received: from adsl-66-126-233-22.dsl.anhm01.pacbell.net
[66.126.233.22] by homepower.com with SMTP; Wed,
20 Jun 2007 19:15:19 -0700

Whatever machine is running homepower.com, they delayed your mail, not us.

Moreover, mailman-users is one of the very few mailman-* lists where 
new members are not moderated by default.  Once you're subscribed, 
you should be able to post immediately.


I can't speak to the other problems.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] Is it possible to reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and not to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2007-06-26 Thread Brad Knowles

On 6/26/07, TRON478 wrote:

>  when i get a mail from my mail i can reply to the list via the adress
>
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>  but i want to reply via
>
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>  is this possible?

This is a client problem.  There is nothing in Mailman that prevents 
you from replying to whatever address you want.  What your client 
allows you to do, or makes easy for you to do, that's a completely 
different matter.  If your client isn't letting you do what you want 
to do, you need to fix your client.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] post formatting and timing

2007-06-26 Thread Michael Welch

Hi again. The problem seemed cured, now I am getting garbled posts again.

Further, this post took a full 6 days to show up after I sent it.

Maybe I am on moderation, and the moderator is slow at checking in. Or ??

Michael Welch wrote at 07:04 PM 06/20/2007:
 
>This list's posts started showing up with all the line returns ignored. None 
>of my other emails are showing up this way. Not sure when it started, I have 
>been on vacation. But I noticed it earlier today and decided to start watching 
>it.
>
>Am I the only one?


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Re: [Mailman-Users] archRunner hogging CPU

2007-06-26 Thread Anne Ramey




Mark Sapiro wrote:
> Anne Ramey wrote:
>
>   
>> Continued digging lead me to FAQ 4.41how recent is this.
>> 
>
>
> Not very. The FAQ article is about 3 years old, and the list archive
> thread it refers to regards a Mailman 2.0.11 installation
>
>
>   
>> Does 
>> anyone else still run into this on the newer versions?  I'll talk to 
>> some of my list owners and I can change the default, but I was wondering 
>> if I was chasing a false lead?  (Another note, most of the lists are 
>> fewer than 100 members)
>> 
>
>
> You could try killing ArchRunner. If you 'kill -TERM' it, mailmanctl
> won't restart it.
>
> Then if things don't clear out, check for stale locks from the
> ArchRunner process. See
> .
>
> That chould get things goung normally, but the messages to be archived
> will start piling up in the qfiles/archive queue.
>
> Then you need to figure out what's wrong. Can you pinpoint a specific
> list? If so, you could just try rebuilding its archive with
>
> bin/arch --wipe 
>
> and then restart ArchRunner with
>
> /usr/local/mailman/bin/qrunner --runner=ArchRunner:0:1 -s
>
> or by stopping and starting mailmanctl (IIRC restart won't restart
> ArchRunner if it was SIGTERMed).
>
> Note that rebuilding the archive with bin/arch is not a step to be
> taken lightly as it MAY renumber messages and invalidate saved URLs,
> but if the issue is a corrupt archives/private//database/*
> file, there may be no choice.
>
> You may also wish to check the
> archives/private/.mbox/.mbox file with
> bin/cleanarch before running bin/arch.
>   
I did both, just to be safe.  The two main offenders now have weekly 
archives and I used the above to rebuild the archives on the most high 
traffic list.  Now the archiving qrunner is caught up, my load is back 
down and everything is great.  Thanks so much,

Anne
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[Mailman-Users] Problem with mailman and exim.

2007-06-26 Thread Alberto V. I.

Hi, I am new at this list.

I have a problem with mailman and exim:

I create mailman list and then I receive the notificacion to admin
email, then I create anyother list without problems, beeing notified by
mailman, but I cannot receive mails to list, If I send any mail to list,
I obtain no result.

I followed : /usr/share/doc/mailman/README.Exim4.Debian
I did everything but/except :
 "and list all your Mailman domains in"POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS". 
All the rest things are made, do I need to use virtual domains? 


Using mailman 2.1.9 and exim 4.63 under debian GNU/Linux.

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[Mailman-Users] mail from GioMBG > fresh installation of mailman but Internal Server Error (only on edit some users) remain!

2007-06-26 Thread Gio MBG Canepa root

Hi  Mark!
---| Here the apache error Log: |---
[Tue Jun 26 17:03:00 2007] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] ModSecurity: Access 
denied with code 500 (phase 1). Pattern match ".(?:c(?:o(?:nf(?:ig)?|m)|
s(?:proj|r)?|dx|er|fg|md)|p(?:rinter|ass|db|ol|wd)|v(?:b(?:proj|s)?|sdisco)|
a(?:s(?:ax?|cx)|xd)|s(?:html?|ql|tm|ys)|d(?:bf?|at|ll|os)|i(?:d[acq]|n[ci])|
ba(?:[kt]|ckup)|res(?:ources|x)|l(?:icx|nk|og)|w{,5}~|webinfo|ht[rw]|
xs ..." at REQUEST_BASENAME. [id "960035"] [msg "URL file extension is 
restricted by policy"] [severity "CRITICAL"] [hostname "home.9records.com"] 
[uri "/mailman/options/mailman/alexkenji--at--alexkenji.com"] 
[unique_id "bOj5IH8AAAEAAA6QRT4B"]
---| end httpd error log |---
These logs are generated in /var/log/httpd/error_log by trying access here:
http://home.9records.com/mailman/options/mailman/alexkenji--at--alexkenji.com

PLUS I can write that I've removed all mailman and after I have reinstalled 
but...
I HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM! Very strangerous!
i have succesfull added the users and (for example) like in the old mailman 
installation If I go here:
http://home.9records.com/mailman/options/mailman/alkemy--at--mbg.it
I can edit the user alkemy AT mbg.it
but if I go here:
http://home.9records.com/mailman/options/mailman/alexkenji--at--alexkenji.com
I receive an INTERNAL SERVER ERROR!

See on the start of this message to see the httpd error_log

is possible that depend from cgi?
if yes what I can control?
waht I can do?
many Thanks
GioMBG

Gio MBG Canepa root wrote:
I have a strange error only when I attempt to modify some configurations on 
some mailman users... I can explane better:
If I go here:
http://home.9records.com/mailman/options/mailman/alkemy--at--mbg.it
I can edit the user alkemy AT mbg.it
but if I go here:
http://home.9records.com/mailman/options/mailman/alexkenji--at--alexkenji.com
I receive an INTERNAL SERVER ERROR!
NB] The alkexkenji user esist and is active like the first user alkemy!
I have this error when I click on the link of the user and at the same the 
user have the same kind of error when attemp to modify Yours mailman 
configuration by self... 

>There is some corrupt data or other problem associated with the
>alexkenji--at--alexkenji.com user.

I still think this is correct, but

>There will be detailed error information in Mailman's 'error' log for
>these errors. This is the information we need to diagnose this problem.

I misunderstood the error (I was thinking it was Mailman's 'we hit a
bug' message, but it's not). There may or may not be anything in
Mailman's error log about this. I still think it's likely, but not
guaranteed.

There will also probably be something in the apache error_log. It may
or may not be more informative than "premature end of script headers".
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Re: [Mailman-Users] I lost my patch :-(

2007-06-26 Thread Michael Welch

This list's posts started showing up with all the line returns ignored. None of 
my other emails are showing up this way. Not sure when it started, I have been 
on vacation. But I noticed it earlier today and decided to start watching it.

Am I the only one?

Tokio Kikuchi wrote at 06:35 PM 06/20/2007:
 
>> In my board_member list, under Privacy options (Sender filters).  I > 
>> have: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the box labeled List of non-member addresses 
>> whose postings > should be automatically accepted 
>> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1220144&group_id=103&atid=300103
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Re: [Mailman-Users] export list subscribers list

2007-06-26 Thread Bryan Carbonnell

On 6/26/07, Sebastian Hagedorn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --On 26. Juni 2007 08:55:54 +0200 Ralf Hildebrandt
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >> is it possible to export the subscribers list of a list to a text, csv or
> >> another file format?
> >
> > You can, but not via the webinterface:
> >
> > ./list_members listenname
>
> That's a feature that many of our listowners ask for. Fortunately there's
> an alternative that doesn't require my help: the e-mail interface. You can
> get a list of subscribers by sending a mail to listname-request with the
> text
>
> who 

But, IIRC, that won't give you the members that have set "Conceal
yourself from subscriber list?" to Yes.

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[Mailman-Users] Is it possible to reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and not to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2007-06-26 Thread TRON478

Hello,

when i get a mail from my mail i can reply to the list via the adress

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

but i want to reply via

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

is this possible?

thanks
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Re: [Mailman-Users] export list subscribers list

2007-06-26 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt

* Sebastian Hagedorn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> That's a feature that many of our listowners ask for. Fortunately there's 
> an alternative that doesn't require my help: the e-mail interface. You can 
> get a list of subscribers by sending a mail to listname-request with the 
> text
> 
> who 

Ah, excellent.

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Re: [Mailman-Users] export list subscribers list

2007-06-26 Thread Sebastian Hagedorn

--On 26. Juni 2007 08:55:54 +0200 Ralf Hildebrandt 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> is it possible to export the subscribers list of a list to a text, csv or
>> another file format?
>
> You can, but not via the webinterface:
>
> ./list_members listenname

That's a feature that many of our listowners ask for. Fortunately there's 
an alternative that doesn't require my help: the e-mail interface. You can 
get a list of subscribers by sending a mail to listname-request with the 
text

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