[MBZ] W108 4.5 - save me from myself
OK everyone, this is your last chance to save me. I'm about to take the plunge on a beautiful 72 280SEL 4.5 (as a consolation, I also bought a 79 300D beater today). Here are the details on the 4.5: POSITIVES: 93,000 original California miles, confirmed with service docs and the condition of the car, which is absolutely positively rust free even in the nastiest places. Dealer maintenance stamps for at least the first 65,000 miles. The car was in storage from 1994 to earlier this year. Original robin's egg blue paint! Blue leather interior. Oddly, the wood, dash and door panels are all pristine, but the leather seats look like someone went at them with a ginsu knife. Selling price is below $4000. NEGATIVES: No sunroof. Heater controls inop. A/C fan works but does not blow cold (was converted to 134a). Steering box needs adjusting; also, pump groans and probably needs to be replaced. Driver's window skips on the way up and needs help. Headliner coming loose where it always does, above the rear window. Car was in storage for 12 years. QUESTIONS: -am I insane? -should I be worried about kingpins, and how long do they usually last -I was surprised to find a GM/Harrison R4 compressor for the A/C. Am I correct in thinking that this car would originally have come with a York and that the R4 is a result of the R134a retrofit? -how the hell does that hydropneumatic compensator in the rear axle work? Is there a pressure circuit from the engine? -I presume that 100k miles is nothing for the 4.5, but I'm a little worried about the automatic. The friction coupling instead of torque converter makes me a little nervous. Are there warning signs of failure? It seems to take a bit long to get into D or R from P or N, and I have vague memories that this is some sort of an indicator of impending doom. Has anyone here ever swapped in a later 4spd automatic from a W116 or W107? I'm thinking that extra gear might lower fuel consumption (not that I'd replace the transmission unnecessarily, but if it goes...) -are the rear diffs or any other part of the drivetrain failure-prone? There seemed to be a bit of roughness that increases with speed and load; perhaps a centre bearing or something? -is the driver's electric window a total nightmare? I assume there are teeth missing on the drive gear and that it will all have to come out. -I understand that the heater controls are a standing issue with these cars, but presume that this, too, can be overcome. Forgive me dieselers, but I have lusted after a W108 since childhood! D. -- David Bruckmann, Palo Alto, CA Current Reality: 1970 Citroen DS21 Pallas (170,000 km) Goettin 1976 Citroen 2CV6 (145,000 km) Piaf http://dolly.bruckmann.com/ 1979 Mercedes-Benz 300D (390,000 km) Shady Past: 1971 Citroen DS21 Pallas (137,000km), 1972 Citroen DS21 Pallas (502,000km) 1978 Mercedes-Benz 300D (1,200,000 km or thereabouts) Sieglinde 1979 Mercedes-Benz 300TD non-turbo (260,000 km) Diva 1981 Citroen 2CV6 Charleston (120,000km), 1988 Merkur XR4Ti (209,000km) 1981 Peugeot 505 GRD (350,000km), 1984 MB 300TD (385,000 km) Gertraud 1985 Toyota Camry The Slamry (330,000km) 1986 Renault 9 1.7L (155,000 km) 2002 VW Golf GLS TDI (74,000 km) -- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] wireless security
I know precious little about such things. I have, over the last two weeks, spent about 5 hours online and on the phone with 5 different techs from Linksys as well as Earthlink and a computer pro [my son] trying to properly configure my replacement router [replaced by Linksys] to let my remote computer get online, not to mention several hours myself. My son suggested the WPA-Personal setting with the 63 random character key, and he does live and work near DC, so is perhaps paranoid. As about half of the wireless networks in my neighborhood are not even security enabled that probably is way overkill, but thus far the system is working faster with the WPA-Personal than it did with the WEP. It could also be the hour he spent tweaking the other router settings ... After all of that it turned out that it was the antivirus setup in my computer that was stopping it. My wife's employer provides the top level corporate Symantec antivirus for all employees home computers. Once I disabled that it was like the dam broke and everything came in. As a side note, I have removed the Symantec Corporate and installed the free home version of Avast [and it could be that is why I called it a 'wifeless router']. It seems to do a better job [thus far]. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wonko the Sane Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 10:08 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] wireless security I'm not quite that paranoid -- I am using WEP. Ten hex characters. Sure, someone can crack it if they want to but they aren't going to get anything other than temporary free internet access. As soon as I notice someone else on my wireless then I will change the passphrase, and thenmaybe mess with WPA. ... And given where I live, I doubt if anyone within range of my wireless has either the (1) skill or (2) desire to crack into my system. Why WEP? Research has indicated that WPA is more secure but slower. The other (wired access) systems on the network are isolated from the wireless access point, because the wireless router is set to act as the DHCP server for anything that hits it, but the other network computers get DHCP from my ISP so have no IP relationship to the wireless. On 9/23/07, Bill Ringgold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A while back there was discussion of internet wireless security. I was just given this site that provides a random 63 character security key generator. Not likely to be broken by any but the most serious of hackers. I used it to generate a WPA-Personal security key for my wifeless router. https://www.grc.com/passwords.htm BillR Jacksonville FL ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sightings rara avis
...140 [300SD] ahead, an unusual sight in itself. Running and no smoke seen. I missed getting one of those about four (?) years ago for just under $10k. It had a new engine already. I was too slow. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W108 4.5 - save me from myself
-am I insane? You are here. 'nuff said. -how the hell does that hydropneumatic compensator in the rear axle work? Is there a pressure circuit from the engine? Nope. To paraphrase the wise Hans und Franz, we will PUMP YOU UP. Going over bumps, etc, pumps up the pressure inside until it has enough to ride at the correct average height. Clever. The friction coupling instead of torque converter makes me a little nervous. It's a fluid coupling, not torque converter. Exactly the same thing except it doesn't have a stator. No more prone to failure IIRC than a torque converter, perhaps a bit less since it doesn't have a stator spline to shear off. (Which I have had one of.) I'm thinking that extra gear might lower fuel consumption Oh, you dreamer. No way an extra first gear is a-gonna help that. -is the driver's electric window a total nightmare? I assume there are teeth missing on the drive gear and that it will all have to come out. If it's like anything else something is bent and the two gears are no longer mating well. With luck it can be bent back. It's old enough that the mechanism might be steel instead of pot metal. Good luck! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300SD on the road
Maybe that's the answer. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles (FOR SALE) 1990 300D 2.5t 150K miles Wickford, RI Washington plate FAITH 2. Looked like a Parson. RLE ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 108, save myself, driver's window
On Sep 24, 2007, at 7:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -is the driver's electric window a total nightmare? I assume there are teeth missing on the drive gear and that it will all have to come out. If it's like anything else something is bent and the two gears are no longer mating well. With luck it can be bent back. It's old enough that the mechanism might be steel instead of pot metal. On my 82 SD, the window motor started freewheeling and the window stopped moving one day. Turned out to be sheared rivets on the regulator. The regulator frame was cast aluminum, but the gears and arms (the pieces riveted) were all steel, so I just had mine welded up for $20 and put it back in. Works great. Check with magnet. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT hand held radio VHF
154.600 would be VHF spectrum. On 9/23/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, based on the freq these things are using, is it VHF or UHF? 154.600 -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a different kettle of fish. Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sightings rara avis
I have a 140 diesel, it does not smoke or burn oil. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 10:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sightings rara avis on 9/23/07 22:32, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I exited the Interstate onto a surface street today, I saw a 140 ahead, an unusual sight in itself. Imagine my slack-jawed amazement when it turned out to be a 300SD. Running and no smoke seen. Possibly a recipient of a new powerplant, courtesy of Daimler Benz guaranty largesse? Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300SD on the road
You mean Gawd meddles in the affairs of compression ignition? Away, ye cursed rod! Mac on 9/24/07 7:42, Dwight E. Giles, Jr at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe that's the answer. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles (FOR SALE) 1990 300D 2.5t 150K miles Wickford, RI Washington plate FAITH 2. Looked like a Parson. RLE ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1996 W210 E300D diesel leak, any suggstions(DR.BOOTH HELP)
Probably leaking delivery valve seals. Next time dont quote the ENTIRE digest. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Vik Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 11:43 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1996 W210 E300D diesel leak, any suggstions(DR.BOOTH HELP) I just aquired a 1996 W210 E300D 197k miles everything is in FANTASTIC condition . One thing i notice is a slow diesel leak which seems to originate from the IP. Not very sure if it is in fact the IP since it is not out in the open like on my W126 or W123. Any experience with this model or any suggestions will be much appreciated !! VIK MOMJIAN 1996 E300D (just aquired, LOVIN' IT !) 1981 300 SD (now for sale) 1983 300 SD (already sold,to be picked up) 1980 300TD (driveable but needs some work) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W108 4.5 - save me from myself
The trans in the 116 450 and Im pretty sure also the 107 is 3 speed. The tranny in the 108 should be 4 speed. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: David Bruckmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 1:37 AM Subject: [MBZ] W108 4.5 - save me from myself OK everyone, this is your last chance to save me. I'm about to take the plunge on a beautiful 72 280SEL 4.5 (as a consolation, I also bought a 79 300D beater today). Here are the details on the 4.5: POSITIVES: 93,000 original California miles, confirmed with service docs and the condition of the car, which is absolutely positively rust free even in the nastiest places. Dealer maintenance stamps for at least the first 65,000 miles. The car was in storage from 1994 to earlier this year. Original robin's egg blue paint! Blue leather interior. Oddly, the wood, dash and door panels are all pristine, but the leather seats look like someone went at them with a ginsu knife. Selling price is below $4000. NEGATIVES: No sunroof. Heater controls inop. A/C fan works but does not blow cold (was converted to 134a). Steering box needs adjusting; also, pump groans and probably needs to be replaced. Driver's window skips on the way up and needs help. Headliner coming loose where it always does, above the rear window. Car was in storage for 12 years. QUESTIONS: -am I insane? -should I be worried about kingpins, and how long do they usually last -I was surprised to find a GM/Harrison R4 compressor for the A/C. Am I correct in thinking that this car would originally have come with a York and that the R4 is a result of the R134a retrofit? -how the hell does that hydropneumatic compensator in the rear axle work? Is there a pressure circuit from the engine? -I presume that 100k miles is nothing for the 4.5, but I'm a little worried about the automatic. The friction coupling instead of torque converter makes me a little nervous. Are there warning signs of failure? It seems to take a bit long to get into D or R from P or N, and I have vague memories that this is some sort of an indicator of impending doom. Has anyone here ever swapped in a later 4spd automatic from a W116 or W107? I'm thinking that extra gear might lower fuel consumption (not that I'd replace the transmission unnecessarily, but if it goes...) -are the rear diffs or any other part of the drivetrain failure-prone? There seemed to be a bit of roughness that increases with speed and load; perhaps a centre bearing or something? -is the driver's electric window a total nightmare? I assume there are teeth missing on the drive gear and that it will all have to come out. -I understand that the heater controls are a standing issue with these cars, but presume that this, too, can be overcome. Forgive me dieselers, but I have lusted after a W108 since childhood! D. -- David Bruckmann, Palo Alto, CA Current Reality: 1970 Citroen DS21 Pallas (170,000 km) Goettin 1976 Citroen 2CV6 (145,000 km) Piaf http://dolly.bruckmann.com/ 1979 Mercedes-Benz 300D (390,000 km) Shady Past: 1971 Citroen DS21 Pallas (137,000km), 1972 Citroen DS21 Pallas (502,000km) 1978 Mercedes-Benz 300D (1,200,000 km or thereabouts) Sieglinde 1979 Mercedes-Benz 300TD non-turbo (260,000 km) Diva 1981 Citroen 2CV6 Charleston (120,000km), 1988 Merkur XR4Ti (209,000km) 1981 Peugeot 505 GRD (350,000km), 1984 MB 300TD (385,000 km) Gertraud 1985 Toyota Camry The Slamry (330,000km) 1986 Renault 9 1.7L (155,000 km) 2002 VW Golf GLS TDI (74,000 km) -- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] SLR Spyphoto Film
Mercedes has put together a neat 11 minute film about a photographer's attempts to get spy shots of an SLR. You'll need that latest Flash plugin to watch it. http://en.floaded.com/films/erlkoenigin Tim 1982 300TD 1991 300TE 4Matic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W108 4.5 - save me from myself
Both of my 1972 280 4.5's were 4 speed they started in second gear. Expect (maybe) 14 MPG out of the car. If I had another one, I'd convert it to a Quadrajet carburetor because my number one issue was the FI system. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin, work Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 8:00 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W108 4.5 - save me from myself The trans in the 116 450 and Im pretty sure also the 107 is 3 speed. The tranny in the 108 should be 4 speed. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: David Bruckmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 1:37 AM Subject: [MBZ] W108 4.5 - save me from myself OK everyone, this is your last chance to save me. I'm about to take the plunge on a beautiful 72 280SEL 4.5 (as a consolation, I also bought a 79 300D beater today). Here are the details on the 4.5: POSITIVES: 93,000 original California miles, confirmed with service docs and the condition of the car, which is absolutely positively rust free even in the nastiest places. Dealer maintenance stamps for at least the first 65,000 miles. The car was in storage from 1994 to earlier this year. Original robin's egg blue paint! Blue leather interior. Oddly, the wood, dash and door panels are all pristine, but the leather seats look like someone went at them with a ginsu knife. Selling price is below $4000. NEGATIVES: No sunroof. Heater controls inop. A/C fan works but does not blow cold (was converted to 134a). Steering box needs adjusting; also, pump groans and probably needs to be replaced. Driver's window skips on the way up and needs help. Headliner coming loose where it always does, above the rear window. Car was in storage for 12 years. QUESTIONS: -am I insane? -should I be worried about kingpins, and how long do they usually last -I was surprised to find a GM/Harrison R4 compressor for the A/C. Am I correct in thinking that this car would originally have come with a York and that the R4 is a result of the R134a retrofit? -how the hell does that hydropneumatic compensator in the rear axle work? Is there a pressure circuit from the engine? -I presume that 100k miles is nothing for the 4.5, but I'm a little worried about the automatic. The friction coupling instead of torque converter makes me a little nervous. Are there warning signs of failure? It seems to take a bit long to get into D or R from P or N, and I have vague memories that this is some sort of an indicator of impending doom. Has anyone here ever swapped in a later 4spd automatic from a W116 or W107? I'm thinking that extra gear might lower fuel consumption (not that I'd replace the transmission unnecessarily, but if it goes...) -are the rear diffs or any other part of the drivetrain failure-prone? There seemed to be a bit of roughness that increases with speed and load; perhaps a centre bearing or something? -is the driver's electric window a total nightmare? I assume there are teeth missing on the drive gear and that it will all have to come out. -I understand that the heater controls are a standing issue with these cars, but presume that this, too, can be overcome. Forgive me dieselers, but I have lusted after a W108 since childhood! D. -- David Bruckmann, Palo Alto, CA Current Reality: 1970 Citroen DS21 Pallas (170,000 km) Goettin 1976 Citroen 2CV6 (145,000 km) Piaf http://dolly.bruckmann.com/ 1979 Mercedes-Benz 300D (390,000 km) Shady Past: 1971 Citroen DS21 Pallas (137,000km), 1972 Citroen DS21 Pallas (502,000km) 1978 Mercedes-Benz 300D (1,200,000 km or thereabouts) Sieglinde 1979 Mercedes-Benz 300TD non-turbo (260,000 km) Diva 1981 Citroen 2CV6 Charleston (120,000km), 1988 Merkur XR4Ti (209,000km) 1981 Peugeot 505 GRD (350,000km), 1984 MB 300TD (385,000 km) Gertraud 1985 Toyota Camry The Slamry (330,000km) 1986 Renault 9 1.7L (155,000 km) 2002 VW Golf GLS TDI (74,000 km) -- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To
Re: [MBZ] 1996 W210 E300D diesel leak, any suggstions(DR.BOOTH HELP)
If it has the same pop-on plastic connectors as my 99 E300, there is an o-ring on the fuel connection to the Injector pump that often leaks and needs to be replaced. You have to slide the white plastic clip to the side before you pull up to remove the connector. On the part that came lose there is an o-ring. That's it. The unfortunate part of the story is that you need to remove the intake manifold to get to things. Since I did mine, I've been told that there are other connections that will leak and cause air to be sucked into the system. If I were doing it again, I'd replace all the o-rings I could find. -Dave Walton On 9/24/07, Vik Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just aquired a 1996 W210 E300D 197k miles everything is in FANTASTIC condition . One thing i notice is a slow diesel leak which seems to originate from the IP. Not very sure if it is in fact the IP since it is not out in the open like on my W126 or W123. Any experience with this model or any suggestions will be much appreciated !! VIK MOMJIAN 1996 E300D (just aquired, LOVIN' IT !) 1981 300 SD (now for sale) 1983 300 SD (already sold,to be picked up) 1980 300TD (driveable but needs some work) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] W108 4.5 - save me from myself
Dave, As long as you're comfortable with the idea that each time after starting the 4.5 is eager to get to the gas station, go for it. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] W140 1994 S350 Idle problem.
I took a road trip last weekend to Long Island to meet a guy that successfully replaced his W140 rodbender diesel engine (603) with one from a 1998 E300 (606). So I'm heading back last night and have been driving for 6 hours and pull into a rest area to take a nap and the engine dies as I'm coasting down the exit ramp. I have just enough momentum to coast into a parking spot. Turn off the car, wait a minute. Turn it on and crank it. Engine turns over, does not start. Repeat process with foot on the gas and it starts right up. Let up on the gas and it dies. No lingering sputtering. It just stops dead. I'm able to move into a secluded parking spot using both petals and take a 3-hour nap. It was maybe 52F outside. I wake up and have the exact same symptoms. I forge ahead hoping not to run into construction traffic. Once I get on the highway I realize I have to pee and as luck would have it, I'm right at the Ohio border and pull into another rest area 15 minutes later. Now when I let my foot off the gas, I'm idling at ~400 rpm. Better... I turn off the car. Do my business. Come back out and the the car starts right up (no petal) and acts normally with an idle at ~600 rpm. Been fine ever since. Any ideas? Thanks -Dave Walton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The evil broken lug bolt on my 300 SDL
Plasma cutter? -Dave Walton On 9/23/07, Harry Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its still not out, but here is my story. I twisted the head off after spending about 2 hours trying to avoid that. I did the military drill with an impact wrench, left-right, left -right, I used Kroil and tried to vibrate it in with the BFH, no go. Lost patience, got cheatum bar and twisted the head off. My failed plan A is somewhere around plan F. I drilled an 1/8 hole and kept stepping up the size, problem was that my hole was angled down too much and the A-plan to drill inside the bolt flange so it would release can't happen. I decided to use grinding stones with a drill motor to grind away enough bolt to center punch and try plan-A1, same goal asA. Using a jack stand and bungee cord I set the drill motor on automatic and when the stone wears out, breaks or wears down to the rod, the noise changes and I reset with another stone. Grinding stats, four stones, over 4 hours. I tried driving a deep socket onto the bolt to get a turning bite, no go. I tried a large easy-out, no go. I have managed to mar the rim enough to not want to use it again so if my next attempt to center drill fails, I'll try a hole saw right over the bolt and hopefully through the rim. If I had it to do over, first I would try to weld a nut onto the bolt shaft and go back to my first methods. Second, I would limit my center drilling to about 3/16 at a time so I could start over dead in the center as many times as it takes. This is a chromed rim I got off EBay, only one of the five and I wonder if that contributes to being so locked in. I predicted to my wife that after I post this, someone will provide a much better way and I look forward to hearing from you. Thanks Harry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W140 1994 S350 Idle problem.
No, but is sounds like whatever is engaged when the throttle's idle switch is on is not happy. I hate gassers. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 5kW Chinese Genset
I pulled the 'two-piece' regulator out. Not two pieces at all, the units are entirely separate. The regulator connects _only_ to the two excitation windings and the field. It's potted in a black plastic shell, and the potting is cracked. Three power transistors protrude, two of them heat-sinked together, as does a large 250V 470 uF electrolytic capacitor. A smaller electrolytic lies just below the surface of the potting. A trim potentiometer also protrudes. Molded into the back of the shell is GTDK, and the month/year clock codes of 11/9. (Which could also be interpreted as 5/4, or any combination thereof since the M and Y letters aren't very good arrows.) Stamped on the back is AVR7-1E3A 06 07. The entire unit is curved like it was supposed to fit into a generator housing. The other unit hooks to the front panel and has a current transformer looped around the main output that it connects to. Constructed like the regulator, it has GTDK date codes of 7/06, or perhaps 1/01. Stamped on the side is BI-1 06.07, or perhaps B1-1. Protruding through the potting is a relay, an LED, and a trim pot. Two small electrolytics lie just below the surface of the potting. This looks to be an overload shutdown or something like that. The potting had pulled away from the shell, the block was easily removed. The back (PCB) side was crazed, this potting material looks brittle enough that it may be possible to remove it easily. Cold (dry ice?) may be of great help. I pulled the regulator out of the shell, but I was too energetic and managed to crack the shell. (No great loss.) There were voids in the potting, part of the PCB was exposed. There was a great deal of granular white plastic material mixed in the black potting at the 'bottom', I don't know if this is un-melted pot material or a component thereof, or what. But this potting looks very brittle, I may be able to expose the circuitry with some care. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W140 1994 S350 Idle problem.
did you have a ABS or SRS light on at the same time? If so, overvoltage relay. Now, tell us more about this 606 in a 140. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 9:46 AM Subject: [MBZ] W140 1994 S350 Idle problem. I took a road trip last weekend to Long Island to meet a guy that successfully replaced his W140 rodbender diesel engine (603) with one from a 1998 E300 (606). So I'm heading back last night and have been driving for 6 hours and pull into a rest area to take a nap and the engine dies as I'm coasting down the exit ramp. I have just enough momentum to coast into a parking spot. Turn off the car, wait a minute. Turn it on and crank it. Engine turns over, does not start. Repeat process with foot on the gas and it starts right up. Let up on the gas and it dies. No lingering sputtering. It just stops dead. I'm able to move into a secluded parking spot using both petals and take a 3-hour nap. It was maybe 52F outside. I wake up and have the exact same symptoms. I forge ahead hoping not to run into construction traffic. Once I get on the highway I realize I have to pee and as luck would have it, I'm right at the Ohio border and pull into another rest area 15 minutes later. Now when I let my foot off the gas, I'm idling at ~400 rpm. Better... I turn off the car. Do my business. Come back out and the the car starts right up (no petal) and acts normally with an idle at ~600 rpm. Been fine ever since. Any ideas? Thanks -Dave Walton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Bio-d in new Benzes
A buddy of mine is contemplating getting a new M diesel, one of his interests is in running bio-d in it. He has been looking at the MB web site, it says “Mercedes-Benz USA now approves the use of B5 bio diesel (standard diesel with a maximum 5% bio diesel content) in all Common Rail Injection Diesel ‘CDI-engines.’ As Bio-diesel can be refined from a variety of raw materials resulting in widely varying properties, the only approved bio diesel content is one that meets ASTM D6751 specification and that has additionally the necessary oxidation stability (min. 6H, proved with EN14112 method) to prevent damages to the system from deposits and/or corrosion. Please ask your service station for further information. If the B5 bio diesel blend is not sufficiently labeled to clearly indicate that it meets the above standards, please do not use it. The Mercedes-Benz limited warranty does not cover damage caused by the use of fuels not meeting Mercedes –Benz approved fuel standards.” Any thoughts on this? Aside from generally finding bio-d at pumps (excluding the greenies who are making it), if it is available, can you find stuff 5% that meets this std? Anything magic about 5%? Aren't Euros blending higher proportions now? I guess the warranty issue would be enough to scare me away, but from a technical standpoint it seems if stuff meets a std, then it should be fine. It ain't easy being green -- Kermit --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bio-d in new Benzes
No way would I even go near it if it were me. If I spent that kind of $$$ on a car I'm not giving anyone ANY opportunity to deny a warranty claim. If he wants to run Bio advise him to get an old Volkswagen or a 240D. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A buddy of mine is contemplating getting a new M diesel, one of his interests is in running bio-d in it. He has been looking at the MB web site, it says Mercedes-Benz USA now approves the use of B5 bio diesel (standard diesel with a maximum 5% bio diesel content) in all Common Rail Injection Diesel CDI-engines. As Bio-diesel can be refined from a variety of raw materials resulting in widely varying properties, the only approved bio diesel content is one that meets ASTM D6751 specification and that has additionally the necessary oxidation stability (min. 6H, proved with EN14112 method) to prevent damages to the system from deposits and/or corrosion. Please ask your service station for further information. If the B5 bio diesel blend is not sufficiently labeled to clearly indicate that it meets the above standards, please do not use it. The Mercedes-Benz limited warranty does not cover damage caused by the use of fuels not meeting Mercedes Benz approved fuel standards. Any thoughts on this? Aside from generally finding bio-d at pumps (excluding the greenies who are making it), if it is available, can you find stuff 5% that meets this std? Anything magic about 5%? Aren't Euros blending higher proportions now? I guess the warranty issue would be enough to scare me away, but from a technical standpoint it seems if stuff meets a std, then it should be fine. It ain't easy being green -- Kermit ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W140 1994 S350 Idle problem.
In a message dated 9/24/2007 7:47:29 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I took a road trip last weekend to Long Island to meet a guy that successfully replaced his W140 rodbender diesel engine (603) with one from a 1998 E300 (606). So I'm heading back last night and have been driving for 6 hours and pull into a rest area to take a nap and the engine dies as I'm coasting down the exit ramp. I have just enough momentum to coast into a parking spot. Turn off the car, wait a minute. Turn it on and crank it. Engine turns over, does not start. Repeat process with foot on the gas and it starts right up. Let up on the gas and it dies. No lingering sputtering. It just stops dead. I'm able to move into a secluded parking spot using both petals and take a 3-hour nap. It was maybe 52F outside. I wake up and have the exact same symptoms. I forge ahead hoping not to run into construction traffic. Once I get on the highway I realize I have to pee and as luck would have it, I'm right at the Ohio border and pull into another rest area 15 minutes later. Now when I let my foot off the gas, I'm idling at ~400 rpm. Better... I turn off the car. Do my business. Come back out and the the car starts right up (no petal) and acts normally with an idle at ~600 rpm. Been fine ever since. Any ideas? Dave, Sounds like a classic variable resistance problem due to oxidation of contacts at one or more wiring points along the circuit that controls the idle. Mercedes has had a long standing problem with plating on various connectors, etc. Your problem could have been aggravated, and cured, by changes in humidity. I would start by pulling each of the connectors on the engine and just slide them in and out a couple times. Especially the coolant temperature sensor, the over voltage relay, and the connections on the Injection pump. Replacing 10 year old fuses is definitely worth doing! Rusty has the good ones. Wasn't the engine compartment wiring harness biodegradability an issue in 94? Just my $0.02 Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 152 K miles ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 5kW Chinese Genset
Did the shorted winding un-short when you unhooked the regulator? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The evil broken lug bolt on my 300 SDL
On 9/24/07, dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Plasma cutter? -Dave Walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ http://www.okiebenz.com Maybe so, but I would want someone else to report a success story first, don't they get real hot? I would fear damage to the rubber parts of the brake system. Oh well, back to the drilling and grinding. Harry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Window switch plastic thingies
OK, the window switch chrome plastic holder-in/together thingies on Brunnhilde (79 TD) have broken AGAIN, it is a cheapass piece of brittle plastic that does not get any better with Houston heat. Anyone have one or two of these things they could part with from a parts car? The switches themselves are fine but that little POS piece cracks and breaks, and you can't get them separately. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1996 E300D diesel leak
Thanks Kaleb , Thanks Dave ! Dave , did you take or have any photos of the plastic pieces in question? VIK MOMJIAN ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1987 300D turbo dies on way home...
Hello, I'm having a very tough time, my wife had to leave me in a neighboring town (my father is in Hospital dying a slow death, he has Reumatoid arthritis, that when it was brought under control, spread to his lungs, he only has a day or so to live) as she had to get home and work the next day. On the way home, she said that the car just started to drive very slowly until she came to a stop on the side of the road. I have had the car towed home, and upon my first inspection this morning, I inspected to see if any loose vacuum lines.. but found none, I just changed out the fuel filters about 4 months ago, and what I did notice was that when the engine is turned over, it turns over much faster than normal, I then checked to see if the pulley belt was moving when turned over and found it does not. I know that it probably means the starter selinoid is not engaging, but, I find that strange and too coincidiental... any helpful suggestions on what to look for? My car has been trouble free for years and years and years.. it has about 300,000 miles on it. I really need this car fixed, as I'm needed back with my Mother and family (I went home for a day) my Father won't make it much longer, and this is something very horrible for my Family to go through, my Father is up to 20 liters of Oxygen and the machine can't go any higher, he is slowly suffocating and probably will not make it past tomorrow... You suggestions would be greatly appreciated... Rick Fine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1987 300D turbo dies on way home...
Rent or borrow a car and worry about it later. I would have suggested filters -- a bad tankful of fuel could plug them even if they were recently changed. Was the car refuled shortly before this happened? RICHARD FIne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello, I'm having a very tough time, my wife had to leave me in a neighboring town (my father is in Hospital dying a slow death, he has Reumatoid arthritis, that when it was brought under control, spread to his lungs, he only has a day or so to live) as she had to get home and work the next day. On the way home, she said that the car just started to drive very slowly until she came to a stop on the side of the road. I have had the car towed home, and upon my first inspection this morning, I inspected to see if any loose vacuum lines.. but found none, I just changed out the fuel filters about 4 months ago, and what I did notice was that when the engine is turned over, it turns over much faster than normal, I then checked to see if the pulley belt was moving when turned over and found it does not. I know that it probably means the starter selinoid is not engaging, but, I find that strange and too coincidiental... any helpful suggestions on what to look for? My car has been trouble free for years and years and years.. it has about 300,000 miles on it. I really need this car fixed, as I'm needed back with my Mother and family (I went home for a day) my Father won't make it much longer, and this is something very horrible for my Family to go through, my Father is up to 20 liters of Oxygen and the machine can't go any higher, he is slowly suffocating and probably will not make it past tomorrow... You suggestions would be greatly appreciated... -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1987 300D turbo dies on way home...
Something similar happened to my son's car -- would not accelerate, ran bad -- listers diagnosed it as a clogged hose that runs from the back of the intake manifold to the ALDA. Cleaned that out, it ran much better. That does not really relate to the engine (or is the starter?) turning faster, but you might want to check out that hose and clean it and the manifold hole out where it exits the manifold. Sorry to hear of your fam issues, its tough when parents get older... --R RICHARD FIne wrote: Hello, I'm having a very tough time, my wife had to leave me in a neighboring town (my father is in Hospital dying a slow death, he has Reumatoid arthritis, that when it was brought under control, spread to his lungs, he only has a day or so to live) as she had to get home and work the next day. On the way home, she said that the car just started to drive very slowly until she came to a stop on the side of the road. I have had the car towed home, and upon my first inspection this morning, I inspected to see if any loose vacuum lines.. but found none, I just changed out the fuel filters about 4 months ago, and what I did notice was that when the engine is turned over, it turns over much faster than normal, I then checked to see if the pulley belt was moving when turned over and found it does not. I know that it probably means the starter selinoid is not engaging, but, I find that strange and too coincidiental... any helpful suggestions on what to look for? My car has been trouble free for years and years and years.. it has about 300,000 miles on it. I really need this car fixed, as I'm needed back with my Mother and family (I went home for a day) my Father won't make it much longer, and this is something very horrible for my Family to go through, my Father is up to 20 liters of Oxygen and the machine can't go any higher, he is slowly suffocating and probably will not make it past tomorrow... You suggestions would be greatly appreciated... Rick Fine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bio-d in new Benzes
Please check on the internet for the National Biodiesel Board. They have established a testing criteria for both the fuel and the distributo/seller of same. The following link may also prove beneficial: [1]http://www.biodiesel.org/pdf_files/fuelfactsheets/Myths_Facts.pdf I find it interesting that Mercedes, VW, etc. accepted biodiesel years ago in Europe yet here we are still playing the percentage game. :) Dave H... __ From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Bio-d in new Benzes Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 10:36:15 -0500 A buddy of mine is contemplating getting a new M diesel, one of his interests is in running bio-d in it. He has been looking at the MB web site, it says Mercedes-Benz USA now approves the use of B5 bio diesel (standard diesel with a maximum 5% bio diesel content) in all Common Rail Injection Diesel CDI-engines. As Bio-diesel can be refined from a variety of raw materials resulting in widely varying properties, the only approved bio diesel content is one that meets ASTM D6751 specification and that has additionally the necessary oxidation stability (min. 6H, proved with EN14112 method) to prevent damages to the system from deposits and/or corrosion. Please ask your service station for further information. If the B5 bio diesel blend is not sufficiently labeled to clearly indicate that it meets the above standards, please do not use it. The Mercedes-Benz limited warranty does not cover damage caused by the use of fuels not meeting Mercedes Benz approved fuel standards. Any thoughts on this? Aside from generally finding bio-d at pumps (excluding the greenies who are making it), if it is available, can you find stuff 5% that meets this std? Anything magic about 5%? Aren't Euros blending higher proportions now? I guess the warranty issue would be enough to scare me away, but from a technical standpoint it seems if stuff meets a std, then it should be fine. It ain't easy being green -- Kermit --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com References 1. http://www.biodiesel.org/pdf_files/fuelfactsheets/Myths_Facts.pdf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bio-d in new Benzes
David Hemsley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I find it interesting that Mercedes, VW, etc. accepted biodiesel years ago in Europe yet here we are still playing the percentage game. :) I don't believe they had any choice in Europe. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bio-d in new Benzes
the issue is that the standards aren't the same in the US as in EU; standards adopted in the US are basically copied from what the Ntl BioD Board suggested, and since they're in bed with the Soy Farmers, it's biased toward Soy-based BioD. BioD in the EU is typically made from Rapeseed; a much better source for quality fuel, but unfortunately that's not what the NBB is aligned with. cheers! e David Hemsley wrote: Please check on the internet for the National Biodiesel Board. They have established a testing criteria for both the fuel and the distributo/seller of same. The following link may also prove beneficial: [1]http://www.biodiesel.org/pdf_files/fuelfactsheets/Myths_Facts.pdf I find it interesting that Mercedes, VW, etc. accepted biodiesel years ago in Europe yet here we are still playing the percentage game. :) Dave H... __ From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Bio-d in new Benzes Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 10:36:15 -0500 A buddy of mine is contemplating getting a new M diesel, one of his interests is in running bio-d in it. He has been looking at the MB web site, it says Mercedes-Benz USA now approves the use of B5 bio diesel (standard [snip] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bio-d in new Benzes
I will definately agree with part of your statements but would have to disagree with others. Isn't the word we live in wonderful when one can openly yet respectably disagree with another? :) YES, the National Biodiesel Board is owned and operated by the SOY growers Association. YES, that bias places the biodiesel field in a hard battle position (government acceptance wise, tax credit wise, grant and endowment wise, etc.) if your product is not SOY based. However, the standards have been pretty much duplicated through out the world. (Please see Greg Pahl's book: Biodiesel Growing a New Energy Economy or refer to Idaho University's research base.) These standards are attainable no matter what the Biodiesel feedstock is (the testing fees however still are extremely restrictive to all but the BIG BOY Producers) - thus offering the availability of a Standardized Biodiesel base. Additionally, another standard has been established that deals exclusively with the storage and sale of Biodiesel. Combined, it is my opinion and my hope, this standardization/accredidation process should begin to relieve some of the doubt of both the manufacturers and the public at large.:) Dave H... __ From: ernest breakfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bio-d in new Benzes Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 13:07:12 -0700 the issue is that the standards aren't the same in the US as in EU; standards adopted in the US are basically copied from what the Ntl BioD Board suggested, and since they're in bed with the Soy Farmers, it's biased toward Soy-based BioD. BioD in the EU is typically made from Rapeseed; a much better source for quality fuel, but unfortunately that's not what the NBB is aligned with. cheers! e David Hemsley wrote: Please check on the internet for the National Biodiesel Board. They have established a testing criteria for both the fuel and the distributo/seller of same. The following link may also prove beneficial: [1]http://www.biodiesel.org/pdf_files/fuelfactsheets/Myths_Facts.pdf I find it interesting that Mercedes, VW, etc. accepted biodiesel years ago in Europe yet here we are still playing the percentage game. :) Dave H... __ From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Bio-d in new Benzes Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 10:36:15 -0500 A buddy of mine is contemplating getting a new M diesel, one of his interests is in running bio-d in it. He has been looking at the MB web site, it says Mercedes-Benz USA now approves the use of B5 bio diesel (standard [snip] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bio-d in new Benzes
hi David! i would have to agree with most of what you read; key words in your statements being ...pretty much just for giggles, a quick look makes it seem that there may be at least 3 different standards in the EU alone that relate to BioD. ;-) note that it seems the German standard (EN14214) is the one companies like VW were looking at when they approved the use of 100% BioD in their vehicles, but are reportedly only supporting use of RME (Rapeseed Methyl Esther; BioD made from Rapeseed). the early recommendations of the NBB i saw for the creation of ASTM D6751 (the US BioDiesel standard) by the NBB contained requirements at the formulation level that looked like they had nothing to do with the performance of the fuel, but were unattainable with anything other than Soy-Based BioD in a blend that did not exceed 20% BioD/80% petroDiesel. at a cursory glance, it would appear fuel that might meet ASTM D6751 would not meet EN 14214 based on at least its inferior Cetane and Sulfur content ratings. as a user of BioD for several years, i've been hearing for years that this was going to change and i'd love to hear that this is been amended to where US regulations now meet the 'standards' the rest of the world is working with, but if it's happened yet, i've missed it. cheers! e David Hemsley wrote: I will definately agree with part of your statements but would have to disagree with others. Isn't the word we live in wonderful when one can openly yet respectably disagree with another? :) YES, the National Biodiesel Board is owned and operated by the SOY growers Association. YES, that bias places the biodiesel field in a hard battle position (government acceptance wise, tax credit wise, grant and endowment wise, etc.) if your product is not SOY based. However, the standards have been pretty much duplicated through out the world. (Please see Greg Pahl's book: Biodiesel Growing a New Energy Economy or refer to Idaho University's research base.) These standards are attainable no matter what the Biodiesel feedstock is (the testing fees however still are extremely restrictive to all but the BIG BOY Producers) - thus offering the availability of a Standardized Biodiesel base. Additionally, another standard has been established that deals exclusively with the storage and sale of Biodiesel. Combined, it is my opinion and my hope, this standardization/accredidation process should begin to relieve some of the doubt of both the manufacturers and the public at large.:) Dave H... __ From: ernest breakfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bio-d in new Benzes Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 13:07:12 -0700 the issue is that the standards aren't the same in the US as in EU; standards adopted in the US are basically copied from what the Ntl BioD Board suggested, and since they're in bed with the Soy Farmers, it's biased toward Soy-based BioD. BioD in the EU is typically made from Rapeseed; a much better source for quality fuel, but unfortunately that's not what the NBB is aligned with. cheers! e David Hemsley wrote: Please check on the internet for the National Biodiesel Board. They have established a testing criteria for both the fuel and the distributo/seller of same. The following link may also prove beneficial: [1]http://www.biodiesel.org/pdf_files/fuelfactsheets/Myths_Facts.pdf I find it interesting that Mercedes, VW, etc. accepted biodiesel years ago in Europe yet here we are still playing the percentage game. :) Dave H... __ From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Bio-d in new Benzes Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 10:36:15 -0500 A buddy of mine is contemplating getting a new M diesel, one of his interests is in running bio-d in it. He has been looking at the MB web site, it says Mercedes-Benz USA now approves the use of B5 bio diesel (standard [snip] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL
Re: [MBZ] 1987 300D turbo dies on way home...
I can offer no help for the car, but I will have your father and family in my prayers clay On 24 Sep 2007, at 10:46, RICHARD FIne wrote: Hello, I'm having a very tough time, my wife had to leave me in a neighboring town (my father is in Hospital dying a slow death, he has Reumatoid arthritis, that when it was brought under control, spread to his lungs, he only has a day or so to live) as she had to get home and work the next day. On the way home, she said that the car just started to drive very slowly until she came to a stop on the side of the road. I have had the car towed home, and upon my first inspection this morning, I inspected to see if any loose vacuum lines.. but found none, I just changed out the fuel filters about 4 months ago, and what I did notice was that when the engine is turned over, it turns over much faster than normal, I then checked to see if the pulley belt was moving when turned over and found it does not. I know that it probably means the starter selinoid is not engaging, but, I find that strange and too coincidiental... any helpful suggestions on what to look for? My car has been trouble free for years and years and years.. it has about 300,000 miles on it. I really need this car fixed, as I'm needed back with my Mother and family (I went home for a day) my Father won't make it much longer, and this is something very horrible for my Family to go through, my Father is up to 20 liters of Oxygen and the machine can't go any higher, he is slowly suffocating and probably will not make it past tomorrow... You suggestions would be greatly appreciated... Rick Fine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The evil broken lug bolt on my 300 SDL
PF, a real mechanic (not me) would blow that thing out with an oxy-acetylene torch. Quick... I've never done it but one time I was helping a friend put a new cutting edge on a grader. We'd spend about an hour drilling holes in the blade because out salvaged edge didn't match the existing holes. His Dad showed up and blasted the other 3 holes in about 10 minutes... You're real cool if you can shut off the acetylene once you start cutting and finish it just on oxy. -Curt Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 10:48:58 -0400 From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] The evil broken lug bolt on my 300 SDL To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Plasma cutter? -Dave Walton - Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] What's it worth?
Randy, I'm new to this list but wondered how hard it was to redo the bottom part of the seat on the 123. The leather on my 85 is in great shape but the bottom cushion is flat. Just remove the entire seat from the car and then stretch to leather cover off of the bottom frame? Thanks for any insight. Steve 85 300D - 187,000 83 300 SD - 78,000 71 MGB - 55,000 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices
Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 2:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Today's Diesel Prices ** ** ** * **** * * *** U.S. Department of Energy** ** ** * Energy Information Administration * **** ******* To unsubscribe/change address, ** ** ** ** ** * see the message footnotes * * EIA, the Nation's clearinghouse for energy statistics. *** ** (NOTE: To best view this document, your email software should be set to view the item in an 80 character format, using a non-proportional font, e.g. courier) ** On-Highway Diesel Prices, by Week and PADD (Self Service Cash Price in Dollars per Gallon, Including Diesel Prices Web URL: Average All Types US NATL EASTNEWCENTLOWEGULF ROCKWEST DATE AVGCOAS ENGLANATL ATL MIDWEST COASMTN COAS C PADD PADDPADDPADDPADDPADD PADDPADD I IA IB IC II III IV V -- - - --- - - --- - - - - 070924 3.032 3.037 3.100 3.124 2.993 3.054 2.971 3.028 3.054 3.093 070917 2.964 2.961 3.025 3.054 2.916 2.984 2.903 2.972 2.998 3.023 070910 2.924 2.912 2.968 2.991 2.872 2.942 2.865 2.955 2.982 2.995 070903 2.893 2.867 2.915 2.934 2.835 2.910 2.836 2.939 2.972 2.985 070827 2.863 2.834 2.906 2.898 2.800 2.870 2.808 2.947 2.965 2.986 070820 2.868 2.842 2.915 2.905 2.808 2.864 2.807 2.977 2.996 3.016 070813 2.847 2.820 2.923 2.901 2.776 2.835 2.771 2.980 3.019 3.054 070806 2.898 2.866 2.955 2.945 2.825 2.887 2.824 3.012 3.077 3.140 070730 2.886 2.847 2.946 2.923 2.806 2.885 2.808 3.003 3.058 3.152 070723 2.889 2.860 2.950 2.945 2.815 2.882 2.815 2.988 3.061 3.158 070716 2.889 2.874 2.959 2.949 2.834 2.878 2.821 2.977 3.031 3.147 070709 2.849 2.853 2.942 2.936 2.810 2.822 2.785 2.955 2.987 3.090 070702 2.829 2.827 2.930 2.916 2.779 2.805 2.766 2.936 2.972 3.067 070625 2.835 2.832 2.920 2.915 2.789 2.806 2.780 2.936 2.985 3.073 070618 2.805 2.800 2.877 2.869 2.764 2.774 2.753 2.907 2.958 3.033 070611 2.792 2.789 2.882 2.873 2.744 2.753 2.742 2.937 2.941 2.997 070604 2.799 2.794 2.882 2.870 2.753 2.764 2.749 2.958 2.931 2.972 070528 2.817 2.811 2.888 2.882 2.773 2.783 2.776 2.980 2.939 2.975 070521 2.803 2.798 2.884 2.873 2.758 2.773 2.747 2.993 2.921 2.955 070514 2.773 2.758 2.866 2.843 2.711 2.740 2.713 2.998 2.919 2.952 070507 2.792 2.781 2.874 2.867 2.735 2.754 2.744 2.995 2.935 2.974 070430 2.811 2.800 2.871 2.873 2.762 2.775 2.766 2.988 2.952 2.987 070423 2.851 2.837 2.864 2.877 2.817 2.831 2.815 2.978 2.953 3.004 070416 2.877 2.862 2.871 2.885 2.852 2.864 2.849 2.981 2.956 3.015 070409 2.840 2.813 2.821 2.852 2.796 2.835 2.810 2.951 2.921 2.978 070402 2.790 2.764 2.786 2.820 2.739 2.780 2.766 2.884 2.885 2.939 070326 2.676 2.657 2.713 2.711 2.630 2.655 2.643 2.780 2.803 2.869 070319 2.681 2.661 2.722 2.719 2.631 2.666 2.640 2.765 2.813 2.875 070312 2.685 2.669 2.730 2.719 2.643 2.673 2.644 2.736 2.811 2.899 070305 2.626 2.604 2.693 2.668 2.568 2.606 2.587 2.658 2.795 2.897 070226 2.551 2.526 2.650 2.598 2.483 2.523 2.497 2.568 2.790 2.911 070219 2.491 2.479 2.636 2.581 2.421 2.444 2.418 2.517 2.784 2.901 070212 2.476 2.465 2.625 2.564 2.408 2.429 2.394 2.517 2.777 2.905 070205 2.435 2.433 2.593 2.527 2.378 2.377 2.360 2.523 2.720 2.825 070129 2.413 2.406 2.570 2.508 2.347 2.349 2.347 2.556 2.687 2.761 070122 2.430 2.421 2.582 2.525 2.361 2.371 2.361 2.586 2.695 2.742 070115 2.463 2.437 2.622 2.559 2.368 2.408 2.391 2.625 2.749 2.773 070108 2.537 2.520 2.672 2.633 2.458 2.483 2.459 2.682 2.824 2.856 070101 2.580 2.565 2.710 2.681 2.503 2.534 2.500 2.697 2.853 2.883 061225 2.596 2.587 2.737 2.710 2.520 2.550 2.514 2.713 2.856 2.885 061218 2.606 2.599 2.730 2.722 2.535 2.555 2.519 2.716 2.887 2.917 061211 2.621 2.610 2.749 2.730 2.546 2.563 2.540 2.724 2.931 2.963 061204 2.618 2.610 2.716 2.717 2.555
[MBZ] thoughts on 300TE ??
Hi Everyone, Well, slowly getting things checked off the to do list. Plan to start looking soon for another 300E series car. Not sure to go coupe, sedan or wagon. I know, all different in ways, but I could live and be happy with either one. Anyway, having a look at a '91 TE wagon with about 140,000. Owner says last tanny fluid changed showed some stuff from indicating wear and was advised would need attention at somepoint down the road, my hunch, sooner rather than later. ;-) It is a 4matic and I know a few here have commented not the most realiable system. Anyway, ideas on cost to put it right, the trans that is, or just comments on the car in general, what to look for, all that stuff?? We do get a lot of snow here, so willing to give a 4matic a try, IF they aren't known to have a lot of problems. Don't mind a little more general service due to a more complicated system though. Ok, there it is. The search for the next one is officially on!! lol Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 5kW Chinese Genset
Did the shorted winding un-short when you unhooked the regulator? Oh, no. It's a short in the field to the rotor. Harmless, so far as I can tell. The first rotor short is free! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What's it worth?
I'm new to this list but wondered how hard it was to redo the bottom part of the seat on the 123. The leather on my 85 is in great shape but the bottom cushion is flat. Just remove the entire seat from the car and then stretch to leather cover off of the bottom frame? Pretty much. Very common are broken springs, the pads themselves can also decompose and fall to pieces. Or both. I have had some success with welding splints (casts, really) over broken spring ends, but if it breaks again I just re-do it. You can also get a good passenger seat from a local junkyard and swap in the spring box. Those results are usually better, but I've lived with the weld until a good spring box shows up. Seats are $20/pair at the U-Pull. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1987 300D turbo dies on way home...
any helpful suggestions on what to look for? My car has been trouble free for years and years and years.. it has about 300,000 miles on it. You've really packed them on since I saw that car last! My advice, which you already have, is to park the car and rent or borrow something for this short time that you really don't have time to take crap from a car. There are more important things to do right now. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Nomination for eBay's idiot of the week
I thought I would beat Kaleb to the punch! I considered awaiting to see if anyone here would notice, but I didn't want to miss any value in whatever sage counsel and frank opinion might be come of it. I realize I may have brought my sanity further into question, so besides that. I figure what the hell, you only live once, right? [1]http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1982-300D-Very-Clean-250-NEW-Parts-Under-1 y-WARRANTY_W0QQitemZ320162514416QQihZ011QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrd Z1QQcmdZViewItem Vince Club 123D President http://www.club123d.org If you recieved this e-mail in error or would like stop recieving e-mails from this address, please reply to this message saying so, and you will be removed from our address book. _ [2]Kick back and relax with hot games and cool activities at the Messenger Café. References 1. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1982-300D-Very-Clean-250-NEW-Parts-Under-1y-WARRANTY_W0QQitemZ320162514416QQihZ011QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem 2. http://g.msn.com/8HMBENUS/2740??PS=47575 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Nomination for eBay's idiot of the week
Maybe the link will work this time, or is this a security feature I don't know about? Sorry. Well there it is anyway. [1]http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1982-300D-Very-Clean-250-NEW-Parts-Under-1 y-WARRANTY_W0QQitemZ320162514416QQihZ011QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrd Z1QQcmdZViewItem Vince Club 123D President http://www.club123d.org If you recieved this e-mail in error or would like stop recieving e-mails from this address, please reply to this message saying so, and you will be removed from our address book. __ From: V Layton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Nomination for eBay's idiot of the week Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 05:52:27 + I thought I would beat Kaleb to the punch! I considered awaiting to see if anyone here would notice, but I didn't want to miss any value in whatever sage counsel and frank opinion might be come of it. I realize I may have brought my sanity further into question, so besides that. I figure what the hell, you only live once, right? [1]http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1982-300D-Very-Clean-250-NEW-Parts-Unde r-1 y-WARRANTY_W0QQitemZ320162514416QQihZ011QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQ Qrd Z1QQcmdZViewItem Vince Club 123D President http://www.club123d.org If you recieved this e-mail in error or would like stop recieving e-mails from this address, please reply to this message saying so, and you will be removed from our address book. _ [2]Kick back and relax with hot games and cool activities at the Messenger Café. References 1. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1982-300D-Very-Clean-250-NEW-Parts-Under-1 y-WARRANTY_W0QQitemZ320162514416QQihZ011QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQ rdZ1QQcmdZViewItem 2. http://g.msn.com/8HMBENUS/2740??PS=47575 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ [2]Discover sweet stuff waiting for you at the Messenger Cafe. Claim your treat today! References 1. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1982-300D-Very-Clean-250-NEW-Parts-Under-1y-WARRANTY_W0QQitemZ320162514416QQihZ011QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem 2. http://g.msn.com/8HMBENUS/2743??PS=47575 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
