Re: [MBZ] w124 dash swap evaporectomy

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Karl,

I'd replace all the rubber vacuum lines, rubber oxidizes and ages.  The
comparative cost of genuine Mercedes-Benz rubber hose, purchases in bulk,
is probably going to be so low that it is well worth the piece of mind.  In
addition, if I were the Mechanic, I would vastly prefer to have as many new
parts to install as possible, and not have to worry about re-using old
rubber hose.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 3:34 AM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
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> Do people typically replace all the rubber vacuum lines along with the
> pods/actuators? I suppose if they are not stretched they should be ok, but
> still they are 28 years old now.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] w124 dash swap evaporectomy

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Plastic vac lines?  I did not.  'Would have if I'd seen cracking rubber. 
'Found no problem with 'em.


Wilton

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Do people typically replace all the rubber vacuum lines along with the
pods/actuators? I suppose if they are not stretched they should be ok, but
still they are 28 years old now.

I will wait for the blower to blow. Thanks for the info  :-)
On Nov 6, 2015 4:29 PM, "Peter Frederick via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Heater core failure is quite rare, but you should replace the 0-rings on
the pipes when you have the heater box out.  Blower motor and controller
can be changed without taking anything other than some trim and the wiper
motor out.  I've done all these so far, and need to do the evaporator on
the diesel if I intend to keep it.

Peter

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Re: [MBZ] w124 dash swap evaporectomy

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Do people typically replace all the rubber vacuum lines along with the
pods/actuators? I suppose if they are not stretched they should be ok, but
still they are 28 years old now.

I will wait for the blower to blow. Thanks for the info  :-)
On Nov 6, 2015 4:29 PM, "Peter Frederick via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Heater core failure is quite rare, but you should replace the 0-rings on
> the pipes when you have the heater box out.  Blower motor and controller
> can be changed without taking anything other than some trim and the wiper
> motor out.  I've done all these so far, and need to do the evaporator on
> the diesel if I intend to keep it.
>
> Peter
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Re: [MBZ] w124 dash swap evaporectomy

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I replaced all the plastic vacuum lines in the 450SLC under hood when I
rebuilt the engine because they broke if you bent them much at all. A
couple of meters of the tubing was not expensive from Rusty.

On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 8:31 AM, WILTON via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Plastic vac lines?  I did not.  'Would have if I'd seen cracking rubber.
> 'Found no problem with 'em.
>
> Wilton
>
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Re: [MBZ] w124 dash swap evaporectomy

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Heater core failure is quite rare, but you should replace the 0-rings  
on the pipes when you have the heater box out.  Blower motor and  
controller can be changed without taking anything other than some trim  
and the wiper motor out.  I've done all these so far, and need to do  
the evaporator on the diesel if I intend to keep it.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] w124 dash swap evaporectomy

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Ordering all vacuum pods.

Do heater cores ever go bad on these cars?

What about the blower motors?

Thanks.
On Nov 5, 2015 10:49 AM, "Meade Dillon via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Really depends on your goal.  I would imagine a used dash in good shape is
> far less expensive than a new dash, but you'd need to check with Classic
> Center or MB Northlake to get an idea on prices for new.  The risk with a
> used dash is condition: Is it just about to start cracking?
>
> If you can locate a nice dash at a U-pull and retrieve it yourself, you'll
> be able to "learn" on that car (but I think you've already shared that you
> don't have time for that much fun).
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
> On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 1:12 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > What do you all think about installing a new vs used dash?
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Re: [MBZ] w124 dash swap evaporectomy

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I think the book rate is more like 14 hours?  If I were to pay someone, I'd
budget at least $2k, and I'd find an independent mechanic who works on the
"classics" because most dealers probably don't have anyone left who has
been factory trained to work on these cars.  I think you'll really just
need to ask directly for quotes.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 12:52 AM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> What do you all feel the going mechanic rate should be for this job, labor
> only? I'm thinking over 2k around LA. That 400e FOR Sale On peachparts
> APPARENTLY Had Evap Done FOR 2600 At THE dealer.
>
> Apparently it is like 10 hours of work?
>
> Thanks,
> Karl
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Re: [MBZ] w124 dash swap evaporectomy

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Really depends on your goal.  I would imagine a used dash in good shape is
far less expensive than a new dash, but you'd need to check with Classic
Center or MB Northlake to get an idea on prices for new.  The risk with a
used dash is condition: Is it just about to start cracking?

If you can locate a nice dash at a U-pull and retrieve it yourself, you'll
be able to "learn" on that car (but I think you've already shared that you
don't have time for that much fun).

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 1:12 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> What do you all think about installing a new vs used dash?
>
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Re: [MBZ] w124 dash swap evaporectomy

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

So I should give this experienced mercedes mechanic the 1100 he is asking I
guess.

My guy here in LA doesn't even want the job. Easier money to be made I
guess.

What do you all think about installing a new vs used dash?
On Nov 5, 2015 7:18 AM, "WILTON via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I obviously work cheap.  I did mine for <$600 for parts + indie refer guy
> to replace hoses, evac and fill with R-12 I supplied.  Find an indie, not a
> dealer.  I think dealer wanted ~$2200 in '08.
>
> Wilton
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>
>
> I think the book rate is more like 14 hours?  If I were to pay someone, I'd
>> budget at least $2k, and I'd find an independent mechanic who works on the
>> "classics" because most dealers probably don't have anyone left who has
>> been factory trained to work on these cars.  I think you'll really just
>> need to ask directly for quotes.
>>
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 12:52 AM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> What do you all feel the going mechanic rate should be for this job, labor
>>> only? I'm thinking over 2k around LA. That 400e FOR Sale On peachparts
>>> APPARENTLY Had Evap Done FOR 2600 At THE dealer.
>>>
>>> Apparently it is like 10 hours of work?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Karl
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Re: [MBZ] w124 dash swap evaporectomy

[WILTON via Mercedes]

I obviously work cheap.  I did mine for <$600 for parts + indie refer guy to 
replace hoses, evac and fill with R-12 I supplied.  Find an indie, not a 
dealer.  I think dealer wanted ~$2200 in '08.


Wilton

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I think the book rate is more like 14 hours?  If I were to pay someone, I'd
budget at least $2k, and I'd find an independent mechanic who works on the
"classics" because most dealers probably don't have anyone left who has
been factory trained to work on these cars.  I think you'll really just
need to ask directly for quotes.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 12:52 AM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

What do you all feel the going mechanic rate should be for this job, 
labor

only? I'm thinking over 2k around LA. That 400e FOR Sale On peachparts
APPARENTLY Had Evap Done FOR 2600 At THE dealer.

Apparently it is like 10 hours of work?

Thanks,
Karl
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Re: [MBZ] w124 dash swap evaporectomy

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

What do you all feel the going mechanic rate should be for this job, labor
only? I'm thinking over 2k around LA. That 400e FOR Sale On peachparts
APPARENTLY Had Evap Done FOR 2600 At THE dealer.

Apparently it is like 10 hours of work?

Thanks,
Karl
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