Fw: [meteorite-list] Rants
Can anyone translate this? This is the kind of spew he sends me. Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: M come Meteorite Meteorites To: Michael Farmer Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 1:43 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rants và cagare coglione di un americanoMichael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you really belive that? Do you really belive that I am the idiot, you were kicked off ebay, but I am wrong. You my retarded monkey, are living in la la land. - Original Message - From: M come Meteorite Meteorites To: Michael Farmer Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 12:17 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rants stop to broken with your slandering emails...you have broken farmer, shut downMichael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark, it is actually very important to this list. A list member who is ameteorite dealer has been busted in a serious fraud. Do you think that thismight be important for people who buy from this guy to know? It may notpertain directly to you, but the list is comprised of hundreds of members,so it is pertinent to the list itself. I do agree though that there islittle use in further emails regarding this.The proof has been laid out for all to see.Michael Farmer- Original Message - From: "Marc D. Fries" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 11:31 AMSubject: [meteorite-list] Rants Could you gents take your fight off-line? This has turned into a spam-stream. Cheers, MDF -- Marc D. Fries, Ph.D. Postdoctoral Research Associate Carnegie Institution of Washington Geophysical Laboratory 5251 Broad Branch Rd. NW Washington, DC 20015 PH: 202 478 7970 FAX: 202 478 8901 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list__Meteorite-list mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-listM come Meteorite - Matteo ChinellatoVia Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALYEmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.infoInternational Meteorite Collectors Association #2140MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ Do you Yahoo!?New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages!M come Meteorite - Matteo ChinellatoVia Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALYEmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.infoInternational Meteorite Collectors Association #2140MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ Do you Yahoo!?New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rants
Yes Mike I can translate but will not because there is enough oil on this fire. Michel FRANCO - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 9:59 AM Subject: Fw: [meteorite-list] Rants Can anyone translate this? This is the kind of spew he sends me. Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: M come Meteorite Meteorites To: Michael Farmer Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 1:43 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rants và cagare coglione di un americanoMichael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you really belive that? Do you really belive that I am the idiot, you were kicked off ebay, but I am wrong. You my retarded monkey, are living in la la land. - Original Message - From: M come Meteorite Meteorites To: Michael Farmer Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 12:17 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rants stop to broken with your slandering emails...you have broken farmer, shut downMichael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark, it is actually very important to this list. A list member who is ameteorite dealer has been busted in a serious fraud. Do you think that thismight be important for people who buy from this guy to know? It may notpertain directly to you, but the list is comprised of hundreds of members,so it is pertinent to the list itself. I do agree though that there islittle use in further emails regarding this.The proof has been laid out for all to see.Michael Farmer- Original Message - From: "Marc D. Fries" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 11:31 AMSubject: [meteorite-list] Rants Could you gents take your fight off-line? This has turned into a spam-stream. Cheers, MDF -- Marc D. Fries, Ph.D. Postdoctoral Research Associate Carnegie Institution of Washington Geophysical Laboratory 5251 Broad Branch Rd. NW Washington, DC 20015 PH: 202 478 7970 FAX: 202 478 8901 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list__Meteorite-list mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-listM come Meteorite - Matteo ChinellatoVia Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALYEmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.infoInternational Meteorite Collectors Association #2140MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ Do you Yahoo!?New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages!M come Meteorite - Matteo ChinellatoVia Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALYEmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.infoInternational Meteorite Collectors Association #2140MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ Do you Yahoo!?New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! __Meteorite-list mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] I am broken
Sincerely I am tired of this list, for guilt of an idiotlike Farmer, many my friendships have been ruined for the fault ofthis idiot. This list moreover is full of racists against the European collectorsand dealers, not to mention what they say of the Italians, above all in the private emails, true Randy Mills, where they do not have courage to send them in public. I go definitively from this list, my friends know where to contact me, while as far as this list I will know to make of a good publicity for who will try to enroll itself. Matteo Ah Farmer, is good for you not put your face here in Italy.the same for the friends of Farmer. And now Unsuscribe me from this racist list!M come Meteorite - Matteo ChinellatoVia Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALYEmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.infoInternational Meteorite Collectors Association #2140MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages!__ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Ebay Matteo
Randy This is not actually true. When ebay suspect there is a fraud they suspend the account, then make the investigation and and when they finish it they can reinstate the accoutn. I know as it happened to me too once in the past. Eduardo -Original Message- From: Randy Mils [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 11:08:27 -0700 Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Ebay Matteo htmldiv style='background-color:'DIV class=RTE PNice Work Mike./P PYour suspicions were proven to be correct. It does not matter what excuse Matteo uses to defend himself. The fact is Ebay would not have suspended him unless the evidence was 100% clear./P PWe all can be sure now who the TRUE liar is and always has been./P PRandyBRBR/P/DIV DIV/DIVFrom: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] DIV/DIVTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DIV/DIVSubject: [meteorite-list] Ebay Matteo DIV/DIVDate: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 10:22:38 -0700 DIV/DIV DIV/DIVLunarmeteorite AND MCOMEMETEORITE are BOTH already kicked off, that was fast, it seems that Ebay can move now when fraud is proven. DIV/DIVSEE ya Matteo How does it feel to lose several years of feedback for being an a-hole? DIV/DIVcheck ebay, click on search by bidder and try Lunarmeteorite or Mcomemeteorite, both are now no longer registered users. DIV/DIVMichael Farmer DIV/DIV DIV/DIVAnyone doubt that Matteo is a liar anymore? DIV/DIV__ DIV/DIVMeteorite-list mailing list DIV/DIV[EMAIL PROTECTED] DIV/DIVhttp://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list DIV/DIV/divbr clear=allhr a href=http://g.msn.com/8HMBENUS/2743??PS=47575;MSN Movies - Trailers, showtimes, DVD's, and the latest news from Hollywood!/a /html __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] I am broken
OMG!! I leave this list because of all the fighting (and party because I fried my computer with a tesla coil by accident). And finally, after like 5 months, I rejoin the list and the FIRST list E-mail I get is the same kind of crap. Come on people GROW UP!!! ~Graham Christensen[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehuntermsn messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: M come Meteorite Meteorites To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 4:15 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] I am broken Sincerely I am tired of this list, for guilt of an idiotlike Farmer, many my friendships have been ruined for the fault ofthis idiot. This list moreover is full of racists against the European collectorsand dealers, not to mention what they say of the Italians, above all in the private emails, true Randy Mills, where they do not have courage to send them in public. I go definitively from this list, my friends know where to contact me, while as far as this list I will know to make of a good publicity for who will try to enroll itself. Matteo Ah Farmer, is good for you not put your face here in Italy.the same for the friends of Farmer. And now Unsuscribe me from this racist list!M come Meteorite - Matteo ChinellatoVia Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALYEmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.infoInternational Meteorite Collectors Association #2140MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ Do you Yahoo!?New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! __Meteorite-list mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] urban legends and recent meteorites
Dear list, I have noticed that an increase in alleged meteorite reports in the last month or two is leading some to claim all kinds of unlikely things about the state of the cosmos. Can anyone tell me to what extent there has been an increase in actual fireball-like phenomena in, say, the last 5 years? Or is this a false impression caused by wider coverage? I'd love to know, but find no straightforward sources. Thanks, Chris = http://embark.to/magonia C / Mayor 51, 3 B, 28013 Madrid Spain Tel: 600376311 (with image capabilities) ___ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - so many all-new ways to express yourself http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] RANTS (A CHICAGO PERSPECTIVE)
Everyday I get about 100 emails.70 are from the met list, and 30 % are spam(is that not what matteo called me 3 years ago?).The first thing I see yesterday is the MATTEO/FARMER wars have started again.My god men when, when it all end?I have been thru these wars when I ws doing to much posting awhile ago.But for me, I have been to tucson twice and have gotten to meet most of these great people who are involved in this great hobby.I hope I have given them a better perspective of myself.I know that I have had a chance to make my own opinoins on most everyone I have met.By most cases, everyone I have met seem like great people.I really believe, that somewhere down the pike,mike and matteo are going to have to meet just to clear the AIR.FOR THE SAKE OF THE MET. LIST.I really believe that as we get older,alot of us have had stuff happen to us thru out our lives that we wish would not continue to bug us, but somehow it continues to persist.Then we say,I am to old for this to continue.Well that is how I feel.As I rapidly approach 50(6 weeks to go),i hope to see an end to all this WARFARE,and lets get back to meteorites.Is that not why we are all here for?The omly thing I blame matteo for is the only negative blotch on my ebay record.Oh well, life goes on and another day of work.Just a persective from chicago.Have a great day all. steve arnold, chicago,USA!! = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/ __ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Finmet
Hello, Don't use the ivanmete.. etc. adress, use the goldrocks... (was it?) adress instead!! Ivanmete.. doesn't seems to work. Made a lot of trouble for me too.. They ought to remove the automatic message with the ivanmete.. adress. Bjørn Sørheim At 21:19 22.06.04 -0700, you wrote: Hello all- Anyone have info on how to reach Ivan? All my emails to his address and ask seller a question get bounced back. His PayPal address has not answered. Sorry for the use of the list but I am out of ideas, Rob Wesel -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] urban legends and recent meteorites
Hi Chris, Bernd reported on this just a few days ago with a year by year brake down. Check the list archives. Best wishes, Michael on 6/23/04 4:24 AM, chris aubeck at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear list, I have noticed that an increase in alleged meteorite reports in the last month or two is leading some to claim all kinds of unlikely things about the state of the cosmos. Can anyone tell me to what extent there has been an increase in actual fireball-like phenomena in, say, the last 5 years? Or is this a false impression caused by wider coverage? I'd love to know, but find no straightforward sources. Thanks, Chris = http://embark.to/magonia C / Mayor 51, 3 B, 28013 Madrid Spain Tel: 600376311 (with image capabilities) ___ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - so many all-new ways to express yourself http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- It is always a simple matter to drag people along whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. This is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country. - Hermann Goering -- When Jesus said Love your enemies I think he probably meant don't kill them. Anonymous -- For perspective, try THIS: http://micro.magnet.fsu.edu/primer/java/scienceopticsu/powersof10/index.html -- cool message fro Ben Jerry: www.TrueMajority.org/oreo -- AMAZING photos of Aurora Borealis, etc. http://faculty.rmwc.edu/tmichalik/atmosphere.htm -- Hubble space telescope - AMAZING photos!: http://wires.news.com.au/special/mm/030811-hubble.htm -- http://www.costofwar.com/ -- SUPPORT OUR TROUPS: http://www.takebackthemedia.com/onearmy.html -- Worth Seeing: Earth at night from satellite: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0011/earthlights_dmsp_big.jpg -- - Interactive Lady Liberty: http://doody36.home.attbi.com/liberty.htm -- Earth - variety of choices: http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/vplanet.html -- Michael Blood Meteorites: http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] RANTS (A CHICAGO PERSPECTIVE)
Yeah, High Noon in Portales Valley ! They meet at Duel Hill (IVA) Gunfight at Korrabes Coral. ..with Steve Chicago as Fuzzy. Yhaaa! Martin - Original Message - From: Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 2:34 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] RANTS (A CHICAGO PERSPECTIVE) Everyday I get about 100 emails.70 are from the met list, and 30 % are spam(is that not what matteo called me 3 years ago?).The first thing I see yesterday is the MATTEO/FARMER wars have started again.My god men when, when it all end?I have been thru these wars when I ws doing to much posting awhile ago.But for me, I have been to tucson twice and have gotten to meet most of these great people who are involved in this great hobby.I hope I have given them a better perspective of myself.I know that I have had a chance to make my own opinoins on most everyone I have met.By most cases, everyone I have met seem like great people.I really believe, that somewhere down the pike,mike and matteo are going to have to meet just to clear the AIR.FOR THE SAKE OF THE MET. LIST.I really believe that as we get older,alot of us have had stuff happen to us thru out our lives that we wish would not continue to bug us, but somehow it continues to persist.Then we say,I am to old for this to continue.Well that is how I feel.As I rapidly approach 50(6 weeks to go),i hope to see an end to all this WARFARE,and lets get back to meteorites.Is that not why we are all here for?The omly thing I blame matteo for is the only negative blotch on my ebay record.Oh well, life goes on and another day of work.Just a persective from chicago.Have a great day all. steve arnold, chicago,USA!! = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/ __ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] K20 in meteorites
Hello Bernd, List I have a problem with my new find Sahara 03500. ( Achondrite anom) : It holds more than 0.5% of K2O. Other percentages are almost OK. I am wandering if other meteorites hold such percentages of that Potassium Oxyde, which is 5 times more than any average type. Any answer or help is welcome. TKS per advance. Best regards Michel. Photo of this rare meteorite on my site at www.caillou-noir.com/TassaMahchi.htm __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] RANTS (A CHICAGO PERSPECTIVE)
Hi Steve and all, Although I hope you are right Steve, a look back in the archives show that fighting has been going on almost from day one. I wouldn't hold my breath too long as there are bound to be more flame wars sooner or later. We can only hope they will be more civilized than in the past. Such negative posts are the result of more than a few people getting out of the hobby so everyone looses from such posts. Many of the people who get into disputes are really nice people for the most part that let someone get the best of them. Those posting to the list with too many negativity's, ads and so forth are automatically removed to my trash. As it has been said before don't respond to personal attacks on the list but work it out off list. I do want to thank Mike for his letting us know about this fraud attempt. Now does anyone want to start a pool on how soon before the next post of nocomemeteorites posts again?? :-) --AL __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
AW: [meteorite-list] K20 in meteorites
Dear Michel, fairly high K2O values have been reported for C-like clast in the following meteorites: LEW 85300 (polymict eucrite) 0.47% (C clast) Supuhee (H6) 0.57% (clast) Krähenberg (LL5) 1.45% (dark portion) Miles (IIE silicated iron) 0.5% (silicates) Cumberland Falls (aubrite) 0.43% (chondritic clasts) but also as bulk content: Governador Valadares (nakhlite) 0.43% Bhola (LL3-6) 1.5% (reference: Compositional study of K-rich fragments and host material, pyroxene Fs4-25, olivine Fa27.8, F.Wlotzka et al., GCA, 1983, 47, p.743.) There are some more meteorites with high potassium contents reported, but the wet chemical analyses are fairly antique and not very trustworthy. To give a general direction: high potassium contents in whole rock material is quite unusual. Typical contents are in the order of 0.1 to 0.2% for chondrites and 0.02 to 0.05% for basaltic achondrites (grand average of 1660 analyses is 0.098%). High K values have often been reported for unusual clasts in achondrits as well as for chondrites (here mainly carbonaceous material) and silicated irons. So, it could be, that your meteorite is a clast left over (e.g. by weathering or fragmentation during fall) from a larger body. Best regards, Jorn ___ Joern Koblitz MetBase Editor The MetBase Library of Meteoritics and Planetary Sciences Benquestrasse 27 D-28209 Bremen, Germany phone: +49 421 24 100 24 fax: +49 421 168 2799 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Michel Franco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 23. Juni 2004 17:20 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: [meteorite-list] K20 in meteorites Hello Bernd, List I have a problem with my new find Sahara 03500. ( Achondrite anom) : It holds more than 0.5% of K2O. Other percentages are almost OK. I am wandering if other meteorites hold such percentages of that Potassium Oxyde, which is 5 times more than any average type. Any answer or help is welcome. TKS per advance. Best regards Michel. Photo of this rare meteorite on my site at www.caillou-noir.com/TassaMahchi.htm __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Exploration Rover Update - June 22, 2004
Ron, I have a question about the Mars rovers. It is unbelievable how well they were engineered to not only complete the prescribed missions, but to over-extend the way they have been able to do. What is the ultimate limiting factor that will cause them to stop functioning? It seems like they have unlimited electrical, assuming that the storage cells are still able to re-charge from the solar cells. Is it the storage cells themselves that will fail first? Or are there other factors that will come into play soon that will end the extended mission? If the rovers survive the Mars winter, then they have a good chance of lasting several more months on Mars. In fact, when I last talked to Jim Erickson, the project manager, he said they are planning for an 'infinitely long mission'. Of course, a critical part on the rovers can go out at any time. The thermal cycling from night day is rather extreme. The dust accumulation on the solar arrays is also a concern, as the available power will drop with time. One of Spirit's front wheels just started to draw more power - the first sign of age on that rover. Opportunity has had a heater that has been stuck in the on position ever since landing. What finally did Mars Pathfinder in was its battery. The battery was charged during the day, and used at night to turn on the heaters to keep the lander warm at night. When the battery finally gave out, the lander was unable to keep itself warm, and after the first night without the battery, the lander was never heard from again. Ron Baalke __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] I am broken
Yep, it is all my fault, you committed fraud against me, and it is all my fault. Seek help Matteo, you really do need it. Michael Farmer - Original Message - From: M come Meteorite Meteorites To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 3:15 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] I am broken Sincerely I am tired of this list, for guilt of an idiotlike Farmer, many my friendships have been ruined for the fault ofthis idiot. This list moreover is full of racists against the European collectorsand dealers, not to mention what they say of the Italians, above all in the private emails, true Randy Mills, where they do not have courage to send them in public. I go definitively from this list, my friends know where to contact me, while as far as this list I will know to make of a good publicity for who will try to enroll itself. Matteo Ah Farmer, is good for you not put your face here in Italy.the same for the friends of Farmer. And now Unsuscribe me from this racist list!M come Meteorite - Matteo ChinellatoVia Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALYEmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.infoInternational Meteorite Collectors Association #2140MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ Do you Yahoo!?New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! __Meteorite-list mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Finmet
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Ivan may be on the field, but at least someone should answer, anyway, it may take couple of days to get a reply...;- best, pekka s Bjrn Srheim wrote: Hello, Don't use the ivanmete.. etc. adress, use the goldrocks... (was it?) adress instead!! Ivanmete.. doesn't seems to work. Made a lot of trouble for me too.. They ought to remove the automatic message with the ivanmete.. adress. Bjrn Srheim At 21:19 22.06.04 -0700, you wrote: Hello all- Anyone have info on how to reach Ivan? All my emails to his address and "ask seller a question" get bounced back. His PayPal address has not answered. Sorry for the use of the list but I am out of ideas, Rob Wesel -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Pekka Savolainen Jokiharjuntie 4 FIN-71330 Rasala FINLAND + 358 400 818 912 Group Home Page: http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/eurocoin Group Email Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] paper About Tunguska Event Impactor
In the March (2004) issue of Planetary and Space Science, there is a paper discussing the identity of the impactor, which produced the Tunguska Event, that might be of interest to some list members. The paper is: Q. L. Hou , E. M. Kolesnikov , L. W. Xie , N. V. Kolesnikova , M. F. Zhou and M. Sun, 2004, Platinum group element abundances in a peat layer associated with the Tunguska event, further evidence for a cosmic origin. Planetary and Space Science. vol. 52, no. 4, pp. 331-340 doi:10.1016/j.pss.2003.08.002 Based upon excess Pd, Rh, Ru, REE, Co, Sr, and Y found in a peat column from the Northern peat bog of the 1908 Tunguska explosion site, they concluded that the impactor, which created the Tunguska event was more likely a comet, although the possibility that the impactor might have alternatively been a carbonaceous asteroid. They estimated that the mass of either the comet or carbonaceous asteroid was as large as 103-106 tons. I am only reporting what this paper stated. I don't know enough about the pro and cons of the various arguments about the Tunguska event to evaluate their conclusions in any intelligent manner. If anybody needs more information, he or she can find contact information for the authors by clicking the link, Volume 52, Issue 4, pp. 259-340 (March 2004) at: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/journal/00320633 and following the article link to the abstract. (Besides my library doesn't subscribe to Planetary and Space Science. Thus, I only have access to the article's abstract.) Yours, Paul __ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mars Global Surveyor Images - June 17-23, 2004
MARS GLOBAL SURVEYOR IMAGES June 17-23, 2004 The following new images taken by the Mars Orbiter Camera (MOC) on the Mars Global Surveyor spacecraft are now available: o Light-toned Layers in Kasei (Released 17 June 2004) http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2004/06/17/index.html o Windblown Dunes (Released 18 June 2004) http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2004/06/18/index.html o Layered Rocks in Crater (Released 19 June 2004) http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2004/06/19/index.html o Layered Rocks In Melas (Released 20 June 2004) http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2004/06/20/index.html o Exposing Memnonia Terrain (Released 21 June 2004) http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2004/06/21/index.html o Amenthes Crater Cluster (Released 22 June 2004) http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2004/06/22/index.html o Tithonium Dust Devil (Released 23 June 2004) http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2004/06/23/index.html All of the Mars Global Surveyor images are archived here: http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/index.html Mars Global Surveyor was launched in November 1996 and has been in Mars orbit since September 1997. It began its primary mapping mission on March 8, 1999. Mars Global Surveyor is the first mission in a long-term program of Mars exploration known as the Mars Surveyor Program that is managed by JPL for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, DC. Malin Space Science Systems (MSSS) and the California Institute of Technology built the MOC using spare hardware from the Mars Observer mission. MSSS operates the camera from its facilities in San Diego, CA. The Jet Propulsion Laboratory's Mars Surveyor Operations Project operates the Mars Global Surveyor spacecraft with its industrial partner, Lockheed Martin Astronautics, from facilities in Pasadena, CA and Denver, CO. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Racist???
Please read, Matteo For your information, Matteo, this is NOT a racist list towards Europeans - I have had nothing but courtesy and respect from our American friends. It is YOU they do not like because of some of the dreadful things you have said Please leave this list for good instead of threatening to leave then coming back to start yet another flame. thank you dave IMCA #0092 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
AW: [meteorite-list] K20 in meteorites
Michel Jörn, I have no access to those references so, just wanted to ask is it conceivable that the analyses reflect potash-type runoff or contamination from: a) concentratin by long since evaporating ancient lake beds (like hot desert-low elevation in Tunisia, maybe?) b) concentration by evaporating water deposits (like Mars, maybe) c) from fertilizers' runoff (including simoon) ? Saludos Doug Dear Michel, fairly high K2O values have been reported for C-like clast in the following meteorites: LEW 85300 (polymict eucrite) 0.47% (C clast) Supuhee (H6) 0.57% (clast) Krähenberg (LL5) 1.45% (dark portion) Miles (IIE silicated iron) 0.5% (silicates) Cumberland Falls (aubrite) 0.43% (chondritic clasts) but also as bulk content: Governador Valadares (nakhlite) 0.43% Bhola (LL3-6) 1.5% (reference: Compositional study of K-rich fragments and host material, pyroxene Fs4-25, olivine Fa27.8, F.Wlotzka et al., GCA, 1983, 47, p.743.) There are some more meteorites with high potassium contents reported, but the wet chemical analyses are fairly antique and not very trustworthy. To give a general direction: high potassium contents in whole rock material is quite unusual. Typical contents are in the order of 0.1 to 0.2% for chondrites and 0.02 to 0.05% for basaltic achondrites (grand average of 1660 analyses is 0.098%). High K values have often been reported for unusual clasts in achondrits as well as for chondrites (here mainly carbonaceous material) and silicated irons. So, it could be, that your meteorite is a clast left over (e.g. by weathering or fragmentation during fall) from a larger body. Best regards, Jorn ___ Joern Koblitz MetBase Editor The MetBase Library of Meteoritics and Planetary Sciences Benquestrasse 27 D-28209 Bremen, Germany phone: +49 421 24 100 24 fax: +49 421 168 2799 email: info at metbase.de ___ -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Michel Franco [mailto:michel at caillou-noir.com] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 23. Juni 2004 17:20 An: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com; bernd.pauli at paulinet.de Betreff: [meteorite-list] K20 in meteorites Hello Bernd, List I have a problem with my new find Sahara 03500. ( Achondrite anom) : It holds more than 0.5% of K2O. Other percentages are almost OK. I am wandering if other meteorites hold such percentages of that Potassium Oxyde, which is 5 times more than any average type. Any answer or help is welcome. TKS per advance. Best regards Michel. Photo of this rare meteorite on my site at www.caillou-noir.com/TassaMahchi.htm __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Cassini VIMS Team Finds That Phoebe May Be Kin To Comets
CASSINI VIMS TEAM FINDS THAT PHOEBE MAY BE KIN TO COMETS From Lori Stiles, UA News Services, 520-621-1877 June 23, 2004 Scientists may at last have settled the debate on the origin of Saturn's moon, Phoebe. Saturn long ago captured its largest outermost satellite, Phoebe, when the moon wandered in from the frigid region beyond the orbit of Neptune called the Kuiper belt, they conclude. The scientists analyzed results from the Cassini Visual and Infrared Mapping Spectrometer (VIMS) taken during the June 11 Cassini spacecraft's Phoebe flyby. They announced the results today at a news conference at the NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif. Contact Information: Robert H. Brown 520-626-9045 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Related Web site: VIMS spectra of Phoebe Cassini VIMS Homepage http://wwwvims.lpl.arizona.edu/ Scientists have long doubted that Phoebe came from the same disk of material that formed Saturn and most of its moons. Phoebe has an unusual orbit that is inclined to Saturn's equator, revolves backward with respect to both Saturn's rotation and orbital motion, and travels in the opposite direction of Saturn's other satellites. Phoebe is widely believed to have wandered past Saturn and been captured by that planet's mighty gravitational field. Where it wandered from was the question. All our evidence leads us to conclude that Phoebe's surface is made of water ice, water-bearing minerals, carbon dioxide, possible clays and primitive organic chemicals in different locations on the surface, VIMS team member Roger N. Clark of the U.S. Geological Survey in Denver said a few days after the flyby. We also see spectral signatures of materials that we have not yet identified. It is clear that the materials in Phoebe's surface bear little resemblance to the predominantly rocky material found in asteroids in the belt between Mars and Jupiter. The materials that make up Phoebe formed farther out in the solar system, where it is cold enough for them to remain stable. One intriguing result of the VIMS measurements is the discovery of possible chemical similarities between the materials on Phoebe and those seen on comets, said VIMS team leader Robert H. Brown of the University of Arizona. Short period comets are thought to sit among other primitive solar system debris in the Kuiper belt, until tugged by Neptune's gravity toward the inner solar system. Evidence that Phoebe might be chemically kin to comets strengthens the case that it's similar to Kuiper Belt Objects. The VIMS instrument is an imaging spectrometer that produces a special data set called an image cube. It takes an image of an object in many colors simultaneously. An ordinary video camera takes images in three primary colors (red, green, and blue) and combines them to produce images as seen by the human eye. The VIMS instrument takes images in 352 separate colors, spanning a realm of colors far beyond those visible to humans. All materials reflect light in a unique way. So molecules of any element or compound can be identified by the colors they reflect or absorb, their signature spectra. The VIMS team knew the basic chemical make-up of Phoebe only a few days after flyby. That Phoebe likely comes from the Kuiper belt and not from the Mars-Jupiter asteroid belt is another first for the Cassini mission, Brown noted. Cassini has become the first spacecraft to flyby a Kuiper belt object, he said. Cassini flew by Phoebe on June 11. Cassini will conduct a critical 96-minute main-engine burn before going into orbit around Saturn on June 30 (July 1 Universal Time). During Cassini's planned four-year tour it will conduct 76 orbits around the Saturn system and execute 52 close encounters with seven of Saturn's 31 known moons. The Cassini-Huygens mission is a cooperative project of NASA, the European Space Agency and the Italian Space Agency. The Jet Propulsion Laboratory, a division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena, manages the Cassini-Huygens mission for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, D.C. The Cassini orbiter and its two onboard cameras were designed, developed and assembled at JPL. The VIMS team is based at the University of Arizona in Tucson. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Possible Sahara 03500 Paired stone
Hi List, I was going to save this for later but here goes , I have what looks like a paired stone to Michel Franco's Sahara 03500 But this stone is somewhat different as it shows clearly what looks like chondrules in the darker material. Someone has stated that he thinks Michel's stone is a huge clast, Michel's stone doesn't show any of this chondrule material like my stone does, and if paired with Michel's stone could show the reason why Michel has a problem with his classification . I am not going to speculate any further on this one, I will leave it up to the Scientists if they so choose to investigate this stone further. Anyway here is the link to a huge picture of a 44 gram main mass of my stone that was originally 69 grams. Please excuse the crude web site. Scroll down to the large picture . http://www.unknowncollector.com/ Any and all comments are welcome . Best Regards to all, Steven Drummond __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Cassini Opens A Cosmic Time Capsule (Phoebe)
Donald Savage Headquarters, WashingtonJune 23, 2004 (Phone: 202/358-1547) Carolina Martinez Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. (Phone: 818/354-9382) RELEASE: 04-202 CASSINI OPENS A COSMIC TIME CAPSULE Like a woolly mammoth trapped in Arctic ice, Saturn's small moon Phoebe may be a frozen artifact of a bygone era, some four billion years ago. The finding is suggested by new data from the Cassini spacecraft. Cassini scientists reviewed data from the spacecraft's June 11, 2004, flyby of the diminutive moon. They concluded Phoebe is likely a primordial mixture of ice, rock and carbon- containing compounds similar in many ways to material seen in Pluto and Neptune's moon Triton. Scientists believe bodies like Phoebe were plentiful in the outer reaches of the solar system about four and half billion years ago. These icy planetesimals (small bodies) formed the building blocks of the outer solar system and some were incorporated into the giant planets Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune. During this process, gravitational interactions ejected much of this material to distant orbits, joining a native population of similar bodies to form the Kuiper Belt. Phoebe apparently stayed behind, trapped in orbit about the young Saturn, waiting eons for its secrets to be revealed during its rendezvous with the Cassini spacecraft, said Dr. Torrence Johnson, Cassini imaging team member at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL), Pasadena, Calif. All our evidence leads us to conclude, Phoebe's surface is made of water ice, water-bearing minerals, carbon dioxide, possible clays and primitive organic chemicals in patches at different locations on the surface, said Dr. Roger N. Clark, team member for the Visual and Infrared Mapping Spectrometer, U.S. Geological Survey in Denver. We also see spectral signatures of materials we have not yet identified. Cassini's observations gave scientists the first detailed look at one of these primitive icy planetesimals. Phoebe's mass was determined from precise tracking of the spacecraft and optical navigation, combined with an accurate volume estimate from images. The measurements yield a density of about 1.6 grams per cubic centimeter (100 pounds per cubic foot), much lighter than most rocks, but heavier than pure ice at approximately 0.93 grams per cubic centimeter (58 pounds per cubic foot). This suggests a composition of ice and rock similar to Pluto and Triton. Spectral measurements, light intensity as a function of color or wavelength, confirmed the presence of water ice previously detected by Earth-based telescopes. The measurements provided evidence for hydrated minerals on Phoebe's surface, detected carbon dioxide and solid hydrocarbons similar to those found in primitive meteorites. One intriguing result is the discovery of possible chemical similarities between the materials on Phoebe and those seen on comets, said Dr. Robert H. Brown, team leader for the Visible and Infrared Mapping Spectrometer, University of Arizona, Tucson. Evidence Phoebe might be chemically kin to comets strengthens the case it is similar to Kuiper Belt Objects. Measurements taken by the Composite Infrared Spectrometer were used to generate temperature maps. The maps show the surface of Phoebe is very cold, only about 110 degrees above absolute zero (-163 degrees Celsius, or -261 degrees Fahrenheit). Even colder nighttime temperatures suggest a fluffy, porous surface layer. One of the first results from this map is the surface of Phoebe has been badly chewed up, probably by meteorite impacts, said Dr. John Pearl, a Cassini co-investigator for the Composite Infrared Spectrometer, at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, Md. We are discovering Phoebe is a very complex object, with large variations in topography. Cassini also made radar observations of Phoebe's enigmatic surface, making it the first spacecraft radar observations of an outer-planet moon. The results are consistent with the dirty, rocky, icy surface suggested by other observations. We have conducted our first analysis of an outer solar system resident akin to Kuiper Belt Objects, said Dr. Dennis Matson, project scientist of the Cassini-Huygens mission at JPL. In two short weeks, we have added more to what we know about Phoebe than we had learned about it since it was discovered 100 years ago. We did this by having multiple instruments conducting investigations all at one time during our flyby, Matson said. The Cassini-Huygens mission is a cooperative project of NASA, the European Space Agency and the Italian Space Agency. JPL manages the mission for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington. For the latest images and more information about the mission on the Internet, visit: http://www.nasa.gov http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov. -end- __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [meteorite-list] Racist???
nicely said- racism is belief in the inherent genetic surperiority over another- not a meteorite email list. always cc a back-up to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] as hotmail does not work sometimesFrom: "Dave Harris" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "metlist" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] Racist??? Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 18:46:14 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) Please read, Matteo For your information, Matteo, this is NOT a racist list towards Europeans - I have had nothing but courtesy and respect from our American friends. It is YOU they do not like because of some of the dreadful things you have said Please leave this list for good instead of threatening to leave then coming back to start yet another flame. thank you dave IMCA #0092 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list From will you? to I do, MSN Life Events is your resource for Getting Married. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] OT: Are there any members in Colorado Springs?
All, I'm moving to Colorado Springs soon and wondered if there were any list members living there who would be willing to chat a bit about the area. Thanks Dan Handmade Knives by D. Fronefield Specializing in Meteorites and other exotic materials http://hiwaay.net/~dfronfld __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Cassini VIMS Team Finds That Phoebe May Be Kin To Comets
..."One intriguing result of the VIMS measurements is the discovery of possible chemical similarities between the materials on Phoebe and those seen on comets," said VIMS team leader Robert H. Brown of the University of Arizona... ...That Phoebe likely comes from the Kuiper belt and not from the Mars-Jupiter asteroid belt is another "first" for the Cassini mission, Brown noted. Cassini has become the first spacecraft to flyby a Kuiper belt object, he said... Congratulations to this group, big time, what a feat and imaging going over the spoils of victory !! ... though it may have slipped by or not considered (??) Voyager 2's 40,000 km flyby of Triton a "Kuiper" object, but if this were really a "first" prize for Cassini, then what would that be for Stardust's Wild(2) daring 236 km flyby?, chopped liver? :) Saludos, Doug __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Any Old Bootids?
Dear Listees: Greetings. Thanks to Jim Strope for posting info about the Bootids meteor shower, earlier this week. Did anyone try observing last night? I went out for three fairly short sessions between about 10:45 pm and 1:30 am, and saw eight meteors, two of which were nice and bright, and another two of which were probably erratics. Will try again on June 26/27 for the second predicted/possible peak. This was my first time observing a meteor shower since moving to Tucson in January of this year. What a difference from New York! On the East Coast we had to drive 50 miles to get away from city lights and then deal with cloud cover, mosquitoes, cold nights, etc. In dark sky-friendly N.W. Tucson, I just put the deck chair out in the garden and kick back with a cocktail. Sweet! : ) In other news, I'd like to mention that I recently visited the Lowell Observatory in Flagstaff, AZ. The observatory is beautifully situated on a hilltop just outside of Flagstaff, and offers night viewings most evenings. We were treated to an exceptional view of globular clusters M5 and M13, and a binary star pair, through the impressive, vintage Clark telescope -- the very one through which Pluto was discovered! There is a modest meteorite display at the Lowell, consisting of a hefty Canyon Diablo, a nice large Holbrook, a Brenham part slice, some tektites, and a Plainview individual and part slice with Nininger number. Admission for the night viewing is only five bucks or $4 if you're AAA or a senior. Well worth it if you're in the area, but be prepared for a lot of kids, and of course some clown always has to be told to turn off their flashlight : ) Watch the skies! Geoff N. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT: Are there any members in Colorado Springs?
Hi Dan There are a couple of COMETS members from Colorado Springs as well as the surrounding area. Not sure if they are all on this list but you could contact them through the COMETS Yahoo groupslist. Since you are moving you might consider joining the club. This would go for anyone in Colorado as well as outside the state. For those of you who are not familiar with the club we started over 4 years ago. We hold monthly meetings in Denver and occasionally in the Springsas well. We try to have a topic or themerelated to meteorites. Right now we have 35 members on our email list with at least 25 of those from in state. Most meetings have 10-15 members attending. So if anyone wants to attend our meetings please sign up for our Yahoo group. We meet at different times each month so that is the only way to find out when the meeting is. I almost forgot to mention we hold a lot of meetings at one of the club members ice cream shop. There is no better way finish a meeting than with a big scoop of cold hand made ice cream. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/COMeteoriteClub/ Good luck in the Springs. I'm sure you will love it. Let me know if I can be of any assistance. Mike Mike Jensen IMCA 4264Bill Jensen IMCA 2359Jensen Meteorites16730 E Ada PLAurora, CO 80017-3137303-337-4361Web Site: Jensen Meteorites New Book: Meteorites from A to Z __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ensisheim Show 2004 - Photos
Hallo List, for all of you who are interested, I have updated my hompage with some nice photos of the Ensisheim Meteoriteshow last weekend in France. Here is the link: http://www.strufe.net click on the button "Ensisheim 2004" and take a look. The photos are as always in a higher resolution and can take some seconds to download. There had never been so many meteorite dealers in Ensisheim than this year. All was verygood organized from Zelimir Gabelica. Well done Zelimir. The dealers showed excellent material and we all had a lot of fun together. What do you want more ? Enjoy the photos and I hope to seeall ofyou next year again. Best regards ===Hanno StrufeHome position on planet EarthLangenbergstrasse 32 N 49.21 092;66954 PirmasensE 007.53 558; 358 mGermanyPhone + Fax: +49 6331 225 105www.strufe.netIMCA #4267=== __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] i hope its over
i hope this childish farmer-matteo thing gets over soon _ Add photos to your messages with MSN Premium. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ensisheim Show 2004 - Photos
Folks! Big applause to my fellow German meteorite collector friend Hanno for providing a very nice set of Jpegs of people and situations at the Ensisheim show in Alsace, France, this last weekend. Wish I could have been there (..as I was last year, and will be again, hopefully, next year..). Apart from Nick Gessler, where were all you American meteorite-addicts, both dealers and collectors? Hey, this is the biggest meteorite show on the old continent, may be not really comparable to both Tucson and Denver in terms of size alone, but quite DIFFERENT in terms of historical significance of the place itself, if you think of that Ensisheim stone that fell nearby, and which is now displayed there right in front of your eyes Enjoy Hanno´s pics: http://www.strufe.net/ensisheim_2004.htm Best wishes, Alex Berlin, Germany Hallo List, for all of you who are interested, I have updated my hompage with some nice photos of the Ensisheim Meteoriteshow last weekend in France. Here is the link: _http://www.strufe.net_ (http://www.strufe.net) click on the button Ensisheim 2004 and take a look. The photos are as always in a higher resolution and can take some seconds to download. There had never been so many meteorite dealers in Ensisheim than this year. All was very good organized from Zelimir Gabelica. Well done Zelimir. The dealers showed excellent material and we all had a lot of fun together. What do you want more ? Enjoy the photos and I hope to see all of you next year again. Best regards === Hanno Strufe Home position on planet Earth Langenbergstrasse 32 N 49.21 092; 66954 Pirmasens E 007.53 558; 358 m Germany Phone + Fax: +49 6331 225 105 www.strufe.net IMCA #4267 === __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] k class meteorite.
Hello list.I got my prize meteorite finally after a 4 month tussle to get this very rare class.It is bigger than I thought.It is KAKANGARI meteorite.It is .632 grams in size.It measures 12 mm x 10 x 3 mm in size.For the size, it has great,great size.I had to give up one of my park forest pieces, but it is worth it.I hope to have pics up soon.The TKW is only 341 grams,and of the 3K CLASS meteorites out there,there is less than 400 total grams worldwide.Today is great day to be a meteorite collecter. steve arnold, chicago,USA!! = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/ __ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mars Exploration Rover Update - June 23, 2004
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/status.html SPIRIT UPDATE: 'Pot-of-Gold' Revealed - sol 161-163, June 23, 2004 Spirit currently sits at the base of the Columbia Hills in an area called the Hank Moore Hollow. This area has a collection of intriguing rocks on its rim, one of which, Pot-of-Gold, will be the first target for scientists' observations. Spirit used the microscopic imager to get an up close view of Pot-of-Gold on sol 161, but unfortunately, the images were out of focus. Rover planners attribute the blurry shots to a lower than expected rock contact prior to the imaging sequence. Spirit did successfully acquire Mossbauer observations of Pot-of-Gold on this sol. On sol 162, Spirit was commanded to retake the microscopic images of Pot-of-Gold and do extensive observations with the Mossbauer and alpha particle X-ray spectrometer instruments. The microscopic images were successfully obtained, but a positioning fault of the instrument deployment device prevented the Mossbauer and alpha particle X-ray spectrometer observations from executing. Spirit successfully completed the work with its instrument deployment device on sol 163, and took some additional microscopic images of Pot-of-Gold. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] (no subject)
Can anyone out there provide me with information on an ungrouped Iron called Dronino from Russia. Is this a meteorite? Thanks, Cj __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Fw: [meteorite-list] i hope its over
Childish farmer-matteo thing? What do you find childish about lieing, blatant fraud, overt deception and common thievery? Mike Farmer deserves a thank you and for one, has my thanks. Mike went out there put himself on the frontline. He had the fortitude to do something, actually take action, and do something about it! Mike alerted all of us to this blot on the meteorite community and then, Actually Did Something About It! I say Thank You Mike Farmer for having the guts to take care of the problem. Jack Schrader - Original Message - From: scott mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 4:31 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] i hope its over i hope this childish farmer-matteo thing gets over soon _ Add photos to your messages with MSN Premium. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Exploration Rover Update - June 23, 2004
Hello Ron, Any estimate on how many Sols Spirit willlast...power wise, solar batteries and everything considered? Mark Bostick - Original Message - From: Ron Baalke Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 7:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] Mars Exploration Rover Update - June 23, 2004 http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/status.htmlSPIRIT UPDATE: 'Pot-of-Gold' Revealed - sol 161-163, June 23, 2004Spirit currently sits at the base of the "Columbia Hills" in an area called the "Hank Moore Hollow." This area has a collection of intriguing rocks on its rim, one of which, "Pot-of-Gold," will be the first target for scientists' observations.Spirit used the microscopic imager to get an up close view of Pot-of-Gold on sol 161, but unfortunately, the images were out of focus. Rover planners attribute the blurry shots to a lower than expected rock contact prior to the imaging sequence. Spirit did successfully acquire Mossbauer observations of Pot-of-Gold on this sol.On sol 162, Spirit was commanded to retake the microscopic images of Pot-of-Gold and do extensive observations with the Mossbauer and alpha particle X-ray spectrometer instruments. The microscopic images were successfully obtained, but a positioning fault of the instrument deployment device prevented the Mossbauer and alpha particle X-ray spectrometer observations from executing.Spirit successfully completed the work with its instrument deployment device on sol 163, and took some additional microscopic images of Pot-of-Gold.__Meteorite-list mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Address change and a few updates
Dear List, I now have a new email address because of moving. I have not been receiving email at my old address, [EMAIL PROTECTED] for weeks so if for some reason you were trying to reach me, you can contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . If you need my street address please email me off-List. I have been extremely busy but the good news is that our collection is completely cataloged and several new extremely rare classifications have come in. Greg is moving to Lakeland Florida and I moved 32 miles away to a place called Titlow Beach were I have been enjoying sunsets, beach combing and hiking. Unfortunately there is an awesome pub across the street were I have been spending far too much time being entertained by the locals. We have several expeditions planned so we will be quite busy this summer. We will continue to update between expeditions. A quick update on the June 3rd bolide sightings. We pursued over a half a dozen leads with no success at this point. We have two promising leads where material has been recovered and sent to the University of Washington. Our fingers are crossed that one or the other will be meteoritic. Wishing everybody the best, Adam Hupe The Hupe Collection Team LunarRock IMCA 2185 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] I am broken
You know the drill Matteo...you have to unsubscribe yourself. In parting, I think I can speak for a majority of list members when I say that we have a great deal of affection and respect for European meteorite collectors and dealers - the honest ones, that is. JKG At 03:15 AM 6/23/2004, M come Meteorite Meteorites wrote: Sincerely I am tired of this list, for guilt of an idiot like Farmer, many my friendships have been ruined for the fault of this idiot. This list moreover is full of racists against the European collectors and dealers, not to mention what they say of the Italians, above all in the private emails, true Randy Mills, where they do not have courage to send them in public. I go definitively from this list, my friends know where to contact me, while as far as this list I will know to make of a good publicity for who will try to enroll itself. Matteo Ah Farmer, is good for you not put your face here in Italy.the same for the friends of Farmer. And now Unsuscribe me from this racist list! M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ Do you Yahoo!? http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/taglines/10/*http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail/static/efficiency.htmlNew and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] I am broken
John K. Gwilliam wrote: In parting, I think I can speak for a majority of list members when I say that we have a great deal of affection and respect for European meteorite collectors and dealers - the honest ones, that is. Amen brother John. I can also say that Art (the moderator of this list), must be one of the most forgiving souls that I have ever met. If everyone can recall Matteo's Proud Tom spoof website of his own creation, to where Art licks the of Mike Farmer and Art the Rabbit and the sorts. For Art to allow Matteo back on the list with another email address shows GREAT forgiveness on his part. Too bad Matteo had to take it to the next level with eBay. NO one on this list has any hard feeling for any European collector, Asian collector, or any race/creed whatsoever. We all have a common bond and an enthusiasm for meteorites. The only rascist I see on the list is Matteo himself. He's the one with the Al-Qaeda mentality here...no one else. Best wishes to all, and to all a good night! (Let's hope for a surprise meteor shower Saturday night!) Dave __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture Of The Day - June 24, 2004
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