Re: [Nagios-users] Clearing previous flapping states?

2011-07-01 Thread Tim Philips

Thanks very much!  

I thought and suspected as much but didn't know if I was missing something with 
regards to being able to clear flapping.


On 1/07/2011, at 1:39 AM, m...@catsnest.co.uk wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 12:19 PM, Jim Avery  wrote:
>> On 30 June 2011 11:42, Tim Philips  wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>> 
>>> Tell me, is it possible to pass a command to the Nagios command file to 
>>> clear (previous) flapping?  I'm picking no - based on my understanding of 
>>> the documentation but thought I would ask.
>>> 
>>> The scenario is we have a number of "check software updates" that run and 
>>> as such we schedule these daily.  There is a scenario within the flapping 
>>> "period" where there are and aren't updates some of the future "warning or 
>>> critical" warnings get suppressed.
>>> 
>>> The simple answer that springs to mind for me is to disable flapping for 
>>> things that are scheduled over x number of hours.  How are other people 
>>> dealing with such things?
>> 
>> You're right - there is no command you can pass to Nagios to clear the
>> previous flapping state.  You could try disabling flap detection and
>> then enabling it again, but my guess is that Nagios will immediately
>> re-assess the flapping state based on the last 21 checks as soon as
>> you re-enable flap detection and you'll be back where you started.
>> 
>> If your checks are only run daily, then I would say almost certainly
>> flap detection is of no benefit to you and should be disabled for
>> those services.  If Nagios is basing it's assessment of whether the
>> service is flapping on the last 21 checks as described in the
>> documentation (
>> http://nagios.sourceforge.net/docs/nagioscore/3/en/flapping.html ),
>> then since your checks are daily, it could be a couple of weeks
>> sometimes before Nagios decides that flapping has stopped!
>> 
>> IMHO, flap detection is only usually useful for those services which
>> are checked quite frequently.
>> 
> 
> Yup we do the same thing, eg have flap detection disabled in the
> service template for long interval checks.
> The only way I know to clear the flapping status, is to cheat and
> manually schedule the check a load of times (or submit passive checks
> ;)
> 
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Re: [Nagios-users] Clearing previous flapping states?

2011-06-30 Thread mail
On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 12:19 PM, Jim Avery  wrote:
> On 30 June 2011 11:42, Tim Philips  wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Tell me, is it possible to pass a command to the Nagios command file to 
>> clear (previous) flapping?  I'm picking no - based on my understanding of 
>> the documentation but thought I would ask.
>>
>> The scenario is we have a number of "check software updates" that run and as 
>> such we schedule these daily.  There is a scenario within the flapping 
>> "period" where there are and aren't updates some of the future "warning or 
>> critical" warnings get suppressed.
>>
>> The simple answer that springs to mind for me is to disable flapping for 
>> things that are scheduled over x number of hours.  How are other people 
>> dealing with such things?
>
> You're right - there is no command you can pass to Nagios to clear the
> previous flapping state.  You could try disabling flap detection and
> then enabling it again, but my guess is that Nagios will immediately
> re-assess the flapping state based on the last 21 checks as soon as
> you re-enable flap detection and you'll be back where you started.
>
> If your checks are only run daily, then I would say almost certainly
> flap detection is of no benefit to you and should be disabled for
> those services.  If Nagios is basing it's assessment of whether the
> service is flapping on the last 21 checks as described in the
> documentation (
> http://nagios.sourceforge.net/docs/nagioscore/3/en/flapping.html ),
> then since your checks are daily, it could be a couple of weeks
> sometimes before Nagios decides that flapping has stopped!
>
> IMHO, flap detection is only usually useful for those services which
> are checked quite frequently.
>

Yup we do the same thing, eg have flap detection disabled in the
service template for long interval checks.
The only way I know to clear the flapping status, is to cheat and
manually schedule the check a load of times (or submit passive checks
;)

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> threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes
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Re: [Nagios-users] Clearing previous flapping states?

2011-06-30 Thread Jim Avery
On 30 June 2011 11:42, Tim Philips  wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Tell me, is it possible to pass a command to the Nagios command file to clear 
> (previous) flapping?  I'm picking no - based on my understanding of the 
> documentation but thought I would ask.
>
> The scenario is we have a number of "check software updates" that run and as 
> such we schedule these daily.  There is a scenario within the flapping 
> "period" where there are and aren't updates some of the future "warning or 
> critical" warnings get suppressed.
>
> The simple answer that springs to mind for me is to disable flapping for 
> things that are scheduled over x number of hours.  How are other people 
> dealing with such things?

You're right - there is no command you can pass to Nagios to clear the
previous flapping state.  You could try disabling flap detection and
then enabling it again, but my guess is that Nagios will immediately
re-assess the flapping state based on the last 21 checks as soon as
you re-enable flap detection and you'll be back where you started.

If your checks are only run daily, then I would say almost certainly
flap detection is of no benefit to you and should be disabled for
those services.  If Nagios is basing it's assessment of whether the
service is flapping on the last 21 checks as described in the
documentation (
http://nagios.sourceforge.net/docs/nagioscore/3/en/flapping.html ),
then since your checks are daily, it could be a couple of weeks
sometimes before Nagios decides that flapping has stopped!

IMHO, flap detection is only usually useful for those services which
are checked quite frequently.

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threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes 
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[Nagios-users] Clearing previous flapping states?

2011-06-30 Thread Tim Philips
Hi All,

Tell me, is it possible to pass a command to the Nagios command file to clear 
(previous) flapping?  I'm picking no - based on my understanding of the 
documentation but thought I would ask.

The scenario is we have a number of "check software updates" that run and as 
such we schedule these daily.  There is a scenario within the flapping "period" 
where there are and aren't updates some of the future "warning or critical" 
warnings get suppressed.  

The simple answer that springs to mind for me is to disable flapping for things 
that are scheduled over x number of hours.  How are other people dealing with 
such things?


--
Thanks,

Tim Philips (RHCE)
RND GROUP LIMITED


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