Re: [Opensim-dev] Any OpenSim viewers being built from scratch?
Since the topic has been brought up, I have been working on a viewer under the cover of darkness. What started as a personal educational project has gotten out of hand. Mostly, I have been working on the viewer infrastructure and separation of the world/viewer/renderer parts. It keeps getting torn apart and refactored so I am not quite ready to forge the project. Give me a few weeks. I'm currently finishing up the managed/unmanaged interface between the world/viewer (C#) and Ogre (C++) although it's not tied to that renderer. I have considered porting the renderer portion of the Idealist viewer on top of it to show the extensibility. This would also give both Ogre and Irrlicht renderers and people around here like to pick their own poison. Anyway, it has pluggable "viewer"s which interface to one or more "world" representations which are currently fed by libomv, uses PrimMesher for meshing, has pluggable "renderer"s, separates "LL" compatibility from the renderer to eventually allow pluggable meshing modules and new object formats, its own abstract concept of "scenes" (regions) so they can be overlapped or different sizes, separation of asset management from the world allowing multiple repositories and all UI through web browsers. That last bit is odd but I figure that the dialog or HUD you're interfacing with doesn't need to come from the viewer so the interface to the viewer proper is all HTTP requests and one can spin up dialogs to talk to it or other services. Now that I've opened my mouth, I better get back to work. -- mb On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Johan Berntsson wrote: > The OpenViewer project: http://www.openviewer.org/ > > - "Michael Huntington" wrote: >> ___ >> Opensim-dev mailing list >> Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de >> https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev > > ___ > Opensim-dev mailing list > Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de > https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev > ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev
Re: [Opensim-dev] Any OpenSim viewers being built from scratch?
The OpenViewer project: http://www.openviewer.org/ - "Michael Huntington" wrote: > ___ > Opensim-dev mailing list > Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de > https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev
Re: [Opensim-dev] Any OpenSim viewers being built from scratch?
Thanks!! I'll take a look at idealist viewer! Sent from my iPhone On Feb 16, 2009, at 5:05 PM, Charles Krinke wrote: Dear Mike: As Dahlia said, the IdealistViewer is a good candidate as it begins to add features. Many of us have high hopes for IdealistViewer during the course of this year. As OpenSim, we have decided to stay in SecondLife viewer compatible so we are measuring the operation and performance of OpenSim against the current SecondLife official viewer, currently 1.21.6. This does change from time to time and when it changes, we strive to stay compatible. This SecondLife viewer represents the largest set of users for OpenSim, so this seems like a reasonable decision. It is entirely probable that other viewers such as Hippo, IdealistViewer, OpenViewer, Xenkii, Rex and others will become widely adopted and we hope that will happen. We also hope that they will stay compatible with the SecondLife viewer, but as 2009 unfolds, it will be very interesting to see what happens. Charles From: Michael Huntington To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 1:44:04 PM Subject: [Opensim-dev] Any OpenSim viewers being built from scratch? I know this isn't a viewer related dev group... but...I was wondering if anyone was building a viewer that wasn't so tied down to SecondLife? Basically a viewer that has been built from the ground up with OpenSim in mind. The viewers so far have been the biggest OpenSim eyesore for me... if anyone knows of a viewer project targeted for OpenSim or knows someone interested in starting that kind of project please let me know or forward my email to them. Thanks! ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev
Re: [Opensim-dev] Any OpenSim viewers being built from scratch?
Dear Mike: As Dahlia said, the IdealistViewer is a good candidate as it begins to add features. Many of us have high hopes for IdealistViewer during the course of this year. As OpenSim, we have decided to stay in SecondLife viewer compatible so we are measuring the operation and performance of OpenSim against the current SecondLife official viewer, currently 1.21.6. This does change from time to time and when it changes, we strive to stay compatible. This SecondLife viewer represents the largest set of users for OpenSim, so this seems like a reasonable decision. It is entirely probable that other viewers such as Hippo, IdealistViewer, OpenViewer, Xenkii, Rex and others will become widely adopted and we hope that will happen. We also hope that they will stay compatible with the SecondLife viewer, but as 2009 unfolds, it will be very interesting to see what happens. Charles From: Michael Huntington To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 1:44:04 PM Subject: [Opensim-dev] Any OpenSim viewers being built from scratch? I know this isn't a viewer related dev group... but...I was wondering if anyone was building a viewer that wasn't so tied down to SecondLife? Basically a viewer that has been built from the ground up with OpenSim in mind. The viewers so far have been the biggest OpenSim eyesore for me... if anyone knows of a viewer project targeted for OpenSim or knows someone interested in starting that kind of project please let me know or forward my email to them. Thanks!___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev
Re: [Opensim-dev] Any OpenSim viewers being built from scratch?
Idealist viewer on forge: http://forge.opensimulator.org/gf/project/idealistviewer/ On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Michael Huntington wrote: > I know this isn't a viewer related dev group... but...I was wondering if > anyone was building a viewer that wasn't so tied down to SecondLife? > Basically a viewer that has been built from the ground up with OpenSim in > mind. > The viewers so far have been the biggest OpenSim eyesore for me... if > anyone knows of a viewer project targeted for OpenSim or knows someone > interested in starting that kind of project please let me know or forward my > email to them. > > Thanks! > > > > ___ > Opensim-dev mailing list > Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de > https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev > > ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev
[Opensim-dev] Any OpenSim viewers being built from scratch?
I know this isn't a viewer related dev group... but...I was wondering if anyone was building a viewer that wasn't so tied down to SecondLife? Basically a viewer that has been built from the ground up with OpenSim in mind. The viewers so far have been the biggest OpenSim eyesore for me... if anyone knows of a viewer project targeted for OpenSim or knows someone interested in starting that kind of project please let me know or forward my email to them. Thanks! ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev
