Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online
Yes I've wondered about that myself, perhaps there's a problem in powering them or a problem with the delay between source and target? That delay typically plagues AirPlay systems unfortunately. On 11/03/2016 9:33 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote: Hi! I am more surprised that there’s no airplay headphones yet. If there was i would buy a pair emediatly. /A On 10 Mar 2016, at 16:34, Chris Skarstad wrote: With Apple, they have an obsession with being thin as possible. From what I'm told, the standard headphone jack takes up a lot of room, when you compare it to something like wireless might take up. So, they want to go with that so the phone will be thinner. and knowing them, you'll have to use their specific ear pods. Actually, I'm hoping that regular bluetooth will work since I have a few pares of those and i can just use that. Time marches on y'all. I also agree with another poster, if all this is just too much, there's no reason why you can't just stay with the 6 or 6s. I have a 6 and it works beautifully for me. On 3/10/2016 10:19 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Famous Last Words . On 11/03/2016 1:24 AM, Hamit Campos wrote: Hmm then will you skip from now on? No more IPhone for you for ever more? I mean if and that's a big if they really do do it with 7 you know it ain't coming back. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brian Olesen Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 6:04 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online Hi, It's a real shame. We are many, who like the analog style headphones so I'll skip this update and stay with 6S. Any reason why they're removing the plug? I mean they don't take up much space. Best regards Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Devin Prater Sendt: 10. marts 2016 07:23 Til: PC Audio Discussion List Emne: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online I can't wait to see what the new headphones are like, and even what they can do now that they have digital capabilities. It might not be just audio that goes through them. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 9, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3484392/Apple-s-iPhone-7-dump -headphone-socket-Leaked-case-shows-superslim-design-instead-stereo-speakers .html -- ** Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves -- ** Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves
Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online
I'm just looking at the post talking about Bluetooth, Bluetooth does in fact transmit in Compressed audio - well most standards of Bluetooth do -. Most equipment out there now for audio - unless you get the very cheap stuff - is Bluetooth 3.0 which supports a wide variety of different audio profiles. I sincerely hope that Apple considers using Bluetooth atpX lossless in the iPhone 7? I'm not sure if the hardware even exists for this in the iPhone 6 range but regardless of that all the other manufacturers have adopted it including Samsung, LG and so on - sadly not Google -. Bluetooth has been with us 20 years and the quality of the audio - with the standards evolving - has improved dramatically, I remember how my old Ericson phone sounded in 1995 with the Bluetooth hands free, absolutely God Damn awful. On 11/03/2016 9:26 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote: Hi! Well is that a very big problem? Maybe it is but i don’t hear so good i can hear that. /A On 10 Mar 2016, at 15:00, Brian Olesen wrote: Hi, Bluetooth quality lacks in various ways. It can't transmit uncompressed audio and there is a slide delay in time as well. Toilet paper is more than a hundred years old and is stil being used. Smile Bran -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Dane Trethowan Sendt: 10. marts 2016 14:38 Til: PC Audio Discussion List Emne: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online There’s a very good reason they’re removing the plug, if they take the plug away then the phone can be made thinner. I’m not fazed by such a decision myself as there are work arounds if I really wanted to use an older pair of headphones. A Bluetooth adapter might be one way around it or perhaps a dedicated pair of headphones that run from the dock of the iPhone which sound better than the analogue phones anyway due to their direct digital design. Technology is always changing and those sockets are 50 years old in design at least, you don’t see iPhones using valves do you? Imagine how big they’d be if they did. On 10 Mar 2016, at 10:03 PM, Brian Olesen wrote: Hi, It's a real shame. We are many, who like the analog style headphones so I'll skip this update and stay with 6S. Any reason why they're removing the plug? I mean they don't take up much space. Best regards Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Devin Prater Sendt: 10. marts 2016 07:23 Til: PC Audio Discussion List Emne: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online I can't wait to see what the new headphones are like, and even what they can do now that they have digital capabilities. It might not be just audio that goes through them. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 9, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3484392/Apple-s-iPhone- 7-dump -headphone-socket-Leaked-case-shows-superslim-design-instead-stereo-sp eakers .html -- ** Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves ** Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the halfwits in this world behind. -- ** Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves
Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online
Hi! I am more surprised that there’s no airplay headphones yet. If there was i would buy a pair emediatly. /A > On 10 Mar 2016, at 16:34, Chris Skarstad wrote: > > With Apple, they have an obsession with being thin as possible. From what I'm > told, the standard headphone jack takes up a lot of room, when you compare it > to something like wireless might take up. So, they want to go with that so > the phone will be thinner. and knowing them, you'll have to use their > specific ear pods. Actually, I'm hoping that regular bluetooth will work > since I have a few pares of those and i can just use that. Time marches on > y'all. > I also agree with another poster, if all this is just too much, there's no > reason why you can't just stay with the 6 or 6s. I have a 6 and it works > beautifully for me. > > > > On 3/10/2016 10:19 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> Famous Last Words . >> >> >> On 11/03/2016 1:24 AM, Hamit Campos wrote: >>> Hmm then will you skip from now on? No more IPhone for you for ever >>> more? I mean if and that's a big if they really do do it with 7 you know it >>> ain't coming back. >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brian >>> Olesen >>> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 6:04 AM >>> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' >>> Subject: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail >>> Online >>> >>> Hi, >>> It's a real shame. We are many, who like the analog style headphones so I'll >>> skip this update and stay with 6S. >>> Any reason why they're removing the plug? I mean they don't take up much >>> space. >>> >>> Best regards >>> Brian >>> >>> -Oprindelig meddelelse- >>> Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Devin >>> Prater >>> Sendt: 10. marts 2016 07:23 >>> Til: PC Audio Discussion List >>> Emne: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail >>> Online >>> >>> I can't wait to see what the new headphones are like, and even what they can >>> do now that they have digital capabilities. It might not be just audio that >>> goes through them. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Mar 9, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Dane Trethowan >>> wrote: >>>> >>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3484392/Apple-s-iPhone-7-dump >>> >>> -headphone-socket-Leaked-case-shows-superslim-design-instead-stereo-speakers >>> >>> .html >>>> -- >>>> >>>> ** >>>> Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > >
Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online
Hi! Well is that a very big problem? Maybe it is but i don’t hear so good i can hear that. /A > On 10 Mar 2016, at 15:00, Brian Olesen wrote: > > Hi, > Bluetooth quality lacks in various ways. > It can't transmit uncompressed audio and there is a slide delay in time as > well. > Toilet paper is more than a hundred years old and is stil being used. Smile > > Bran > > -Oprindelig meddelelse- > Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Dane > Trethowan > Sendt: 10. marts 2016 14:38 > Til: PC Audio Discussion List > Emne: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online > > There’s a very good reason they’re removing the plug, if they take the plug > away then the phone can be made thinner. > > I’m not fazed by such a decision myself as there are work arounds if I really > wanted to use an older pair of headphones. > > A Bluetooth adapter might be one way around it or perhaps a dedicated pair of > headphones that run from the dock of the iPhone which sound better than the > analogue phones anyway due to their direct digital design. > > Technology is always changing and those sockets are 50 years old in design > at least, you don’t see iPhones using valves do you? Imagine how big they’d > be if they did. > > >> On 10 Mar 2016, at 10:03 PM, Brian Olesen wrote: >> >> Hi, >> It's a real shame. We are many, who like the analog style headphones >> so I'll skip this update and stay with 6S. >> Any reason why they're removing the plug? I mean they don't take up >> much space. >> >> Best regards >> Brian >> >> -----Oprindelig meddelelse- >> Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Devin >> Prater >> Sendt: 10. marts 2016 07:23 >> Til: PC Audio Discussion List >> Emne: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail >> Online >> >> I can't wait to see what the new headphones are like, and even what >> they can do now that they have digital capabilities. It might not be >> just audio that goes through them. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Mar 9, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Dane Trethowan >> wrote: >>> >>> >> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3484392/Apple-s-iPhone- >> 7-dump >> -headphone-socket-Leaked-case-shows-superslim-design-instead-stereo-sp >> eakers >> .html >>> >>> -- >>> >>> ** >>> Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves >>> >>> >> >> >> > > ** > Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the > halfwits in this world behind. > > > > >
Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online
Okay well that's one way of looking at things . I've just been reading a review of the Samsung Galaxy S7 which has a Headphones socket on it but still manages to stay waterproof amazingly, can't work out how Samsung have accomplished that without a sealing cover but there we are. On 11/03/2016 9:21 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote: Hi! Actually i don’t care as i am going to get me an android phone soon. I am a bit tired of some bugs with voiceover on my iphone. Though i am not going to leave Ios or OSX. Just want to try something else. /A On 10 Mar 2016, at 12:03, Brian Olesen wrote: Hi, It's a real shame. We are many, who like the analog style headphones so I'll skip this update and stay with 6S. Any reason why they're removing the plug? I mean they don't take up much space. Best regards Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Devin Prater Sendt: 10. marts 2016 07:23 Til: PC Audio Discussion List Emne: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online I can't wait to see what the new headphones are like, and even what they can do now that they have digital capabilities. It might not be just audio that goes through them. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 9, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3484392/Apple-s-iPhone-7-dump -headphone-socket-Leaked-case-shows-superslim-design-instead-stereo-speakers .html -- ** Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves -- ** Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves
Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online
Hi! Actually i don’t care as i am going to get me an android phone soon. I am a bit tired of some bugs with voiceover on my iphone. Though i am not going to leave Ios or OSX. Just want to try something else. /A > On 10 Mar 2016, at 12:03, Brian Olesen wrote: > > Hi, > It's a real shame. We are many, who like the analog style headphones so I'll > skip this update and stay with 6S. > Any reason why they're removing the plug? I mean they don't take up much > space. > > Best regards > Brian > > -Oprindelig meddelelse- > Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Devin > Prater > Sendt: 10. marts 2016 07:23 > Til: PC Audio Discussion List > Emne: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail > Online > > I can't wait to see what the new headphones are like, and even what they can > do now that they have digital capabilities. It might not be just audio that > goes through them. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 9, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Dane Trethowan > wrote: >> >> > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3484392/Apple-s-iPhone-7-dump > -headphone-socket-Leaked-case-shows-superslim-design-instead-stereo-speakers > .html >> >> -- >> >> ** >> Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves >> >> > > >
RE: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online
Ah okay. That's cool. I just was asking a philisofical question I guess. Suppose it's true and I actually am not too shocked at this I've heard that idea before. But suppose it does happen and they never ever ever ever bring it back, then what? All though who knows because this is another guy. This ain't Steve no more. So if it did happen and there was enough backlash depending on Tim it might come back on 7S. Because I remember that Steve was the suck it kind of dude. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brian Olesen Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 11:52 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online HI, As I wrote. Skip this iPhone 7 update. If it comes back, or this information only is a roomer then off course I'm open to Apple as I am to everything exciting and interesting. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Hamit Campos Sendt: 10. marts 2016 15:24 Til: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Emne: RE: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online Hmm then will you skip from now on? No more IPhone for you for ever more? I mean if and that's a big if they really do do it with 7 you know it ain't coming back. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brian Olesen Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 6:04 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online Hi, It's a real shame. We are many, who like the analog style headphones so I'll skip this update and stay with 6S. Any reason why they're removing the plug? I mean they don't take up much space. Best regards Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Devin Prater Sendt: 10. marts 2016 07:23 Til: PC Audio Discussion List Emne: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online I can't wait to see what the new headphones are like, and even what they can do now that they have digital capabilities. It might not be just audio that goes through them. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 9, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3484392/Apple-s-iPhone-7-dump -headphone-socket-Leaked-case-shows-superslim-design-instead-stereo-speakers .html > > -- > > ** > Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves > >
Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket |Daily Mail Online
Don't see any major marches through the streets over this either . On 11/03/2016 2:36 AM, Merv Keck wrote: Won't bother me a bit. I am about to purchase the fourth Bluetooth headset in a couple of months for the other individual living in this apartment who uses the headset on both the iPhone 6S+ and the PC. In the last ten days the individual has broken two and the third one was either defective or just a poor choice on their part. I suspect both. And that doesn't count the load of ear pods and off brand ear buds I supplied for this individual by their request. So I'm all for Apple razing the standard a little bit. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 10:23 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket |Daily Mail Online And the Lightning Dock connector is a far more functional connector than the Headphones socket is. Actually the headphones socket used by Apple isn't universal at all, its been adapted by Apple to suit there needs. If you look at an Apple Headphone socket for want of a better description you'll see it has extra terminals for the plug for example for one thing. The Minijack you'll find in your standard walkman device will likely have 3 terminals, in your standard bedside radio 2 terminals - if its only mono - but on the IOS devices it contains 5 terminals and obviously the more terminals that are put on one of those plugs then the more flimbsy is the whole arrangement. On 11/03/2016 1:26 AM, Hamit Campos wrote: Oh dam. There is that too. I forgot about this since I'm not much of a musicion. I'm more into sound stuff. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of goshawk on horseback Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:14 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket |Daily Mail Online exactly! the headphone socket was a lot more universal, as it could be used for more than just headphones. a good situation I can think off for example, is that there are now some very good musical instrument apps available for the iPhone, which make life a lot easier for blind musicians. with the problems, especially the delays associated with bluetooth, and the dock/lightning port already being taken up with a music keyboard, what is left to get audio from the iPhone in to an amp or mixer? the good old headphone socket. Simon - Original Message - From: "Brian Olesen" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 2:00 PM Subject: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket |Daily Mail Online Hi, Bluetooth quality lacks in various ways. It can't transmit uncompressed audio and there is a slide delay in time as well. Toilet paper is more than a hundred years old and is stil being used. Smile Bran -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Dane Trethowan Sendt: 10. marts 2016 14:38 Til: PC Audio Discussion List Emne: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online There’s a very good reason they’re removing the plug, if they take the plug away then the phone can be made thinner. I’m not fazed by such a decision myself as there are work arounds if I really wanted to use an older pair of headphones. A Bluetooth adapter might be one way around it or perhaps a dedicated pair of headphones that run from the dock of the iPhone which sound better than the analogue phones anyway due to their direct digital design. Technology is always changing and those sockets are 50 years old in design at least, you don’t see iPhones using valves do you? Imagine how big they’d be if they did. On 10 Mar 2016, at 10:03 PM, Brian Olesen wrote: Hi, It's a real shame. We are many, who like the analog style headphones so I'll skip this update and stay with 6S. Any reason why they're removing the plug? I mean they don't take up much space. Best regards Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Devin Prater Sendt: 10. marts 2016 07:23 Til: PC Audio Discussion List Emne: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online I can't wait to see what the new headphones are like, and even what they can do now that they have digital capabilities. It might not be just audio that goes through them. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 9, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3484392/Apple-s-iPhone - 7-dump -headphone-socket-Leaked-case-shows-superslim-design-instead-stereo-s p eakers .html -- ** Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves ** Those
Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online
You're pretty much on the mark and I don't think you'll have any problems with your Bluetooth headphones whatever, Apple won't be taking that step back. On 11/03/2016 2:34 AM, Chris Skarstad wrote: With Apple, they have an obsession with being thin as possible. From what I'm told, the standard headphone jack takes up a lot of room, when you compare it to something like wireless might take up. So, they want to go with that so the phone will be thinner. and knowing them, you'll have to use their specific ear pods. Actually, I'm hoping that regular bluetooth will work since I have a few pares of those and i can just use that. Time marches on y'all. I also agree with another poster, if all this is just too much, there's no reason why you can't just stay with the 6 or 6s. I have a 6 and it works beautifully for me. On 3/10/2016 10:19 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Famous Last Words . On 11/03/2016 1:24 AM, Hamit Campos wrote: Hmm then will you skip from now on? No more IPhone for you for ever more? I mean if and that's a big if they really do do it with 7 you know it ain't coming back. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brian Olesen Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 6:04 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online Hi, It's a real shame. We are many, who like the analog style headphones so I'll skip this update and stay with 6S. Any reason why they're removing the plug? I mean they don't take up much space. Best regards Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Devin Prater Sendt: 10. marts 2016 07:23 Til: PC Audio Discussion List Emne: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online I can't wait to see what the new headphones are like, and even what they can do now that they have digital capabilities. It might not be just audio that goes through them. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 9, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3484392/Apple-s-iPhone-7-dump -headphone-socket-Leaked-case-shows-superslim-design-instead-stereo-speakers .html -- ** Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves -- ** Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves
RE: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket |Daily Mail Online
Won't bother me a bit. I am about to purchase the fourth Bluetooth headset in a couple of months for the other individual living in this apartment who uses the headset on both the iPhone 6S+ and the PC. In the last ten days the individual has broken two and the third one was either defective or just a poor choice on their part. I suspect both. And that doesn't count the load of ear pods and off brand ear buds I supplied for this individual by their request. So I'm all for Apple razing the standard a little bit. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 10:23 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket |Daily Mail Online And the Lightning Dock connector is a far more functional connector than the Headphones socket is. Actually the headphones socket used by Apple isn't universal at all, its been adapted by Apple to suit there needs. If you look at an Apple Headphone socket for want of a better description you'll see it has extra terminals for the plug for example for one thing. The Minijack you'll find in your standard walkman device will likely have 3 terminals, in your standard bedside radio 2 terminals - if its only mono - but on the IOS devices it contains 5 terminals and obviously the more terminals that are put on one of those plugs then the more flimbsy is the whole arrangement. On 11/03/2016 1:26 AM, Hamit Campos wrote: > Oh dam. There is that too. I forgot about this since I'm not much of a > musicion. I'm more into sound stuff. > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of > goshawk on horseback > Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:14 AM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket |Daily > Mail Online > > exactly! the headphone socket was a lot more universal, as it could be used > for more than just headphones. > a good situation I can think off for example, is that there are now some very > good musical instrument apps available for the iPhone, which make life a lot > easier for blind musicians. with the problems, especially the delays > associated with bluetooth, and the dock/lightning port already being taken up > with a music keyboard, what is left to get audio from the iPhone in to an amp > or mixer? the good old headphone socket. > > Simon > > > - Original Message - > From: "Brian Olesen" > To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" > Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 2:00 PM > Subject: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket |Daily > Mail Online > > > Hi, > Bluetooth quality lacks in various ways. > It can't transmit uncompressed audio and there is a slide delay in > time as well. > Toilet paper is more than a hundred years old and is stil being used. > Smile > > Bran > > -Oprindelig meddelelse----- > Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Dane > Trethowan > Sendt: 10. marts 2016 14:38 > Til: PC Audio Discussion List > Emne: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail > Online > > There’s a very good reason they’re removing the plug, if they take the > plug away then the phone can be made thinner. > > I’m not fazed by such a decision myself as there are work arounds if I > really wanted to use an older pair of headphones. > > A Bluetooth adapter might be one way around it or perhaps a dedicated > pair of headphones that run from the dock of the iPhone which sound > better than the analogue phones anyway due to their direct digital design. > > Technology is always changing and those sockets are 50 years old in > design at least, you don’t see iPhones using valves do you? Imagine > how big they’d be if they did. > > >> On 10 Mar 2016, at 10:03 PM, Brian Olesen wrote: >> >> Hi, >> It's a real shame. We are many, who like the analog style headphones >> so I'll skip this update and stay with 6S. >> Any reason why they're removing the plug? I mean they don't take up >> much space. >> >> Best regards >> Brian >> >> -Oprindelig meddelelse- >> Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af >> Devin Prater >> Sendt: 10. marts 2016 07:23 >> Til: PC Audio Discussion List >> Emne: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily >> Mail Online >> >> I can't wait to see what the new headphones are like, and even what >> they can do now that they have digit
Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online
With Apple, they have an obsession with being thin as possible. From what I'm told, the standard headphone jack takes up a lot of room, when you compare it to something like wireless might take up. So, they want to go with that so the phone will be thinner. and knowing them, you'll have to use their specific ear pods. Actually, I'm hoping that regular bluetooth will work since I have a few pares of those and i can just use that. Time marches on y'all. I also agree with another poster, if all this is just too much, there's no reason why you can't just stay with the 6 or 6s. I have a 6 and it works beautifully for me. On 3/10/2016 10:19 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: Famous Last Words . On 11/03/2016 1:24 AM, Hamit Campos wrote: Hmm then will you skip from now on? No more IPhone for you for ever more? I mean if and that's a big if they really do do it with 7 you know it ain't coming back. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brian Olesen Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 6:04 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online Hi, It's a real shame. We are many, who like the analog style headphones so I'll skip this update and stay with 6S. Any reason why they're removing the plug? I mean they don't take up much space. Best regards Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Devin Prater Sendt: 10. marts 2016 07:23 Til: PC Audio Discussion List Emne: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online I can't wait to see what the new headphones are like, and even what they can do now that they have digital capabilities. It might not be just audio that goes through them. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 9, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3484392/Apple-s-iPhone-7-dump -headphone-socket-Leaked-case-shows-superslim-design-instead-stereo-speakers .html -- ** Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves
Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket |Daily Mail Online
And the Lightning Dock connector is a far more functional connector than the Headphones socket is. Actually the headphones socket used by Apple isn't universal at all, its been adapted by Apple to suit there needs. If you look at an Apple Headphone socket for want of a better description you'll see it has extra terminals for the plug for example for one thing. The Minijack you'll find in your standard walkman device will likely have 3 terminals, in your standard bedside radio 2 terminals - if its only mono - but on the IOS devices it contains 5 terminals and obviously the more terminals that are put on one of those plugs then the more flimbsy is the whole arrangement. On 11/03/2016 1:26 AM, Hamit Campos wrote: Oh dam. There is that too. I forgot about this since I'm not much of a musicion. I'm more into sound stuff. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of goshawk on horseback Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:14 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket |Daily Mail Online exactly! the headphone socket was a lot more universal, as it could be used for more than just headphones. a good situation I can think off for example, is that there are now some very good musical instrument apps available for the iPhone, which make life a lot easier for blind musicians. with the problems, especially the delays associated with bluetooth, and the dock/lightning port already being taken up with a music keyboard, what is left to get audio from the iPhone in to an amp or mixer? the good old headphone socket. Simon - Original Message - From: "Brian Olesen" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 2:00 PM Subject: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket |Daily Mail Online Hi, Bluetooth quality lacks in various ways. It can't transmit uncompressed audio and there is a slide delay in time as well. Toilet paper is more than a hundred years old and is stil being used. Smile Bran -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Dane Trethowan Sendt: 10. marts 2016 14:38 Til: PC Audio Discussion List Emne: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online There’s a very good reason they’re removing the plug, if they take the plug away then the phone can be made thinner. I’m not fazed by such a decision myself as there are work arounds if I really wanted to use an older pair of headphones. A Bluetooth adapter might be one way around it or perhaps a dedicated pair of headphones that run from the dock of the iPhone which sound better than the analogue phones anyway due to their direct digital design. Technology is always changing and those sockets are 50 years old in design at least, you don’t see iPhones using valves do you? Imagine how big they’d be if they did. On 10 Mar 2016, at 10:03 PM, Brian Olesen wrote: Hi, It's a real shame. We are many, who like the analog style headphones so I'll skip this update and stay with 6S. Any reason why they're removing the plug? I mean they don't take up much space. Best regards Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Devin Prater Sendt: 10. marts 2016 07:23 Til: PC Audio Discussion List Emne: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online I can't wait to see what the new headphones are like, and even what they can do now that they have digital capabilities. It might not be just audio that goes through them. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 9, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3484392/Apple-s-iPhone- 7-dump -headphone-socket-Leaked-case-shows-superslim-design-instead-stereo-sp eakers .html -- ** Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves ** Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the halfwits in this world behind. -- ** Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves
Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online
Famous Last Words . On 11/03/2016 1:24 AM, Hamit Campos wrote: Hmm then will you skip from now on? No more IPhone for you for ever more? I mean if and that's a big if they really do do it with 7 you know it ain't coming back. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brian Olesen Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 6:04 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online Hi, It's a real shame. We are many, who like the analog style headphones so I'll skip this update and stay with 6S. Any reason why they're removing the plug? I mean they don't take up much space. Best regards Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Devin Prater Sendt: 10. marts 2016 07:23 Til: PC Audio Discussion List Emne: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online I can't wait to see what the new headphones are like, and even what they can do now that they have digital capabilities. It might not be just audio that goes through them. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 9, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3484392/Apple-s-iPhone-7-dump -headphone-socket-Leaked-case-shows-superslim-design-instead-stereo-speakers .html -- ** Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves -- ** Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves
Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online
At this point in time I've only seen one pair of Lightning Digital headphones but you can bet we'll see much more and possibly some lightning to 3.5MM adapters? Well we'll see. On 11/03/2016 1:14 AM, Hamit Campos wrote: True this. Also I did forget about the lightning ones. That would sound much much better. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 8:38 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online There’s a very good reason they’re removing the plug, if they take the plug away then the phone can be made thinner. I’m not fazed by such a decision myself as there are work arounds if I really wanted to use an older pair of headphones. A Bluetooth adapter might be one way around it or perhaps a dedicated pair of headphones that run from the dock of the iPhone which sound better than the analogue phones anyway due to their direct digital design. Technology is always changing and those sockets are 50 years old in design at least, you don’t see iPhones using valves do you? Imagine how big they’d be if they did. On 10 Mar 2016, at 10:03 PM, Brian Olesen wrote: Hi, It's a real shame. We are many, who like the analog style headphones so I'll skip this update and stay with 6S. Any reason why they're removing the plug? I mean they don't take up much space. Best regards Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Devin Prater Sendt: 10. marts 2016 07:23 Til: PC Audio Discussion List Emne: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online I can't wait to see what the new headphones are like, and even what they can do now that they have digital capabilities. It might not be just audio that goes through them. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 9, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3484392/Apple-s-iPhone- 7-dump -headphone-socket-Leaked-case-shows-superslim-design-instead-stereo-sp eakers .html -- ** Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves ** Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the halfwits in this world behind. -- ** Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves
RE: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket |Daily Mail Online
Oh dam. There is that too. I forgot about this since I'm not much of a musicion. I'm more into sound stuff. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of goshawk on horseback Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:14 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket |Daily Mail Online exactly! the headphone socket was a lot more universal, as it could be used for more than just headphones. a good situation I can think off for example, is that there are now some very good musical instrument apps available for the iPhone, which make life a lot easier for blind musicians. with the problems, especially the delays associated with bluetooth, and the dock/lightning port already being taken up with a music keyboard, what is left to get audio from the iPhone in to an amp or mixer? the good old headphone socket. Simon - Original Message - From: "Brian Olesen" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 2:00 PM Subject: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket |Daily Mail Online Hi, Bluetooth quality lacks in various ways. It can't transmit uncompressed audio and there is a slide delay in time as well. Toilet paper is more than a hundred years old and is stil being used. Smile Bran -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Dane Trethowan Sendt: 10. marts 2016 14:38 Til: PC Audio Discussion List Emne: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online There’s a very good reason they’re removing the plug, if they take the plug away then the phone can be made thinner. I’m not fazed by such a decision myself as there are work arounds if I really wanted to use an older pair of headphones. A Bluetooth adapter might be one way around it or perhaps a dedicated pair of headphones that run from the dock of the iPhone which sound better than the analogue phones anyway due to their direct digital design. Technology is always changing and those sockets are 50 years old in design at least, you don’t see iPhones using valves do you? Imagine how big they’d be if they did. > On 10 Mar 2016, at 10:03 PM, Brian Olesen wrote: > > Hi, > It's a real shame. We are many, who like the analog style headphones > so I'll skip this update and stay with 6S. > Any reason why they're removing the plug? I mean they don't take up > much space. > > Best regards > Brian > > -Oprindelig meddelelse- > Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Devin > Prater > Sendt: 10. marts 2016 07:23 > Til: PC Audio Discussion List > Emne: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail > Online > > I can't wait to see what the new headphones are like, and even what > they can do now that they have digital capabilities. It might not be > just audio that goes through them. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 9, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Dane Trethowan > wrote: >> >> > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3484392/Apple-s-iPhone- > 7-dump > -headphone-socket-Leaked-case-shows-superslim-design-instead-stereo-sp > eakers > .html >> >> -- >> >> ** >> Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves >> >> > > > ** Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the halfwits in this world behind.
RE: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online
Hmm then will you skip from now on? No more IPhone for you for ever more? I mean if and that's a big if they really do do it with 7 you know it ain't coming back. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brian Olesen Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 6:04 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online Hi, It's a real shame. We are many, who like the analog style headphones so I'll skip this update and stay with 6S. Any reason why they're removing the plug? I mean they don't take up much space. Best regards Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Devin Prater Sendt: 10. marts 2016 07:23 Til: PC Audio Discussion List Emne: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online I can't wait to see what the new headphones are like, and even what they can do now that they have digital capabilities. It might not be just audio that goes through them. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 9, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3484392/Apple-s-iPhone-7-dump -headphone-socket-Leaked-case-shows-superslim-design-instead-stereo-speakers .html > > -- > > ** > Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves > >
Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket |Daily Mail Online
exactly! the headphone socket was a lot more universal, as it could be used for more than just headphones. a good situation I can think off for example, is that there are now some very good musical instrument apps available for the iPhone, which make life a lot easier for blind musicians. with the problems, especially the delays associated with bluetooth, and the dock/lightning port already being taken up with a music keyboard, what is left to get audio from the iPhone in to an amp or mixer? the good old headphone socket. Simon - Original Message - From: "Brian Olesen" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 2:00 PM Subject: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket |Daily Mail Online Hi, Bluetooth quality lacks in various ways. It can't transmit uncompressed audio and there is a slide delay in time as well. Toilet paper is more than a hundred years old and is stil being used. Smile Bran -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Dane Trethowan Sendt: 10. marts 2016 14:38 Til: PC Audio Discussion List Emne: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online There’s a very good reason they’re removing the plug, if they take the plug away then the phone can be made thinner. I’m not fazed by such a decision myself as there are work arounds if I really wanted to use an older pair of headphones. A Bluetooth adapter might be one way around it or perhaps a dedicated pair of headphones that run from the dock of the iPhone which sound better than the analogue phones anyway due to their direct digital design. Technology is always changing and those sockets are 50 years old in design at least, you don’t see iPhones using valves do you? Imagine how big they’d be if they did. > On 10 Mar 2016, at 10:03 PM, Brian Olesen wrote: > > Hi, > It's a real shame. We are many, who like the analog style headphones > so I'll skip this update and stay with 6S. > Any reason why they're removing the plug? I mean they don't take up > much space. > > Best regards > Brian > > -Oprindelig meddelelse- > Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Devin > Prater > Sendt: 10. marts 2016 07:23 > Til: PC Audio Discussion List > Emne: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail > Online > > I can't wait to see what the new headphones are like, and even what > they can do now that they have digital capabilities. It might not be > just audio that goes through them. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 9, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Dane Trethowan > wrote: >> >> > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3484392/Apple-s-iPhone- > 7-dump > -headphone-socket-Leaked-case-shows-superslim-design-instead-stereo-sp > eakers > .html >> >> -- >> >> ** >> Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves >> >> > > > ** Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the halfwits in this world behind.
RE: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online
True this. Also I did forget about the lightning ones. That would sound much much better. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 8:38 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online There’s a very good reason they’re removing the plug, if they take the plug away then the phone can be made thinner. I’m not fazed by such a decision myself as there are work arounds if I really wanted to use an older pair of headphones. A Bluetooth adapter might be one way around it or perhaps a dedicated pair of headphones that run from the dock of the iPhone which sound better than the analogue phones anyway due to their direct digital design. Technology is always changing and those sockets are 50 years old in design at least, you don’t see iPhones using valves do you? Imagine how big they’d be if they did. > On 10 Mar 2016, at 10:03 PM, Brian Olesen wrote: > > Hi, > It's a real shame. We are many, who like the analog style headphones > so I'll skip this update and stay with 6S. > Any reason why they're removing the plug? I mean they don't take up > much space. > > Best regards > Brian > > -Oprindelig meddelelse- > Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Devin > Prater > Sendt: 10. marts 2016 07:23 > Til: PC Audio Discussion List > Emne: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail > Online > > I can't wait to see what the new headphones are like, and even what > they can do now that they have digital capabilities. It might not be > just audio that goes through them. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 9, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Dane Trethowan > wrote: >> >> > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3484392/Apple-s-iPhone- > 7-dump > -headphone-socket-Leaked-case-shows-superslim-design-instead-stereo-sp > eakers > .html >> >> -- >> >> ** >> Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves >> >> > > > ** Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the halfwits in this world behind.
Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online
There’s a very good reason they’re removing the plug, if they take the plug away then the phone can be made thinner. I’m not fazed by such a decision myself as there are work arounds if I really wanted to use an older pair of headphones. A Bluetooth adapter might be one way around it or perhaps a dedicated pair of headphones that run from the dock of the iPhone which sound better than the analogue phones anyway due to their direct digital design. Technology is always changing and those sockets are 50 years old in design at least, you don’t see iPhones using valves do you? Imagine how big they’d be if they did. > On 10 Mar 2016, at 10:03 PM, Brian Olesen wrote: > > Hi, > It's a real shame. We are many, who like the analog style headphones so I'll > skip this update and stay with 6S. > Any reason why they're removing the plug? I mean they don't take up much > space. > > Best regards > Brian > > -Oprindelig meddelelse- > Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Devin > Prater > Sendt: 10. marts 2016 07:23 > Til: PC Audio Discussion List > Emne: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail > Online > > I can't wait to see what the new headphones are like, and even what they can > do now that they have digital capabilities. It might not be just audio that > goes through them. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 9, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Dane Trethowan > wrote: >> >> > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3484392/Apple-s-iPhone-7-dump > -headphone-socket-Leaked-case-shows-superslim-design-instead-stereo-speakers > .html >> >> -- >> >> ** >> Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves >> >> > > > ** Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the halfwits in this world behind.
Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail Online
I can't wait to see what the new headphones are like, and even what they can do now that they have digital capabilities. It might not be just audio that goes through them. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 9, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3484392/Apple-s-iPhone-7-dump-headphone-socket-Leaked-case-shows-superslim-design-instead-stereo-speakers.html > > -- > > ** > Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves > >