Re: [PHP] Re: More thoughts about PHP: Taglibs

2001-09-12 Thread Eugene Lee

On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 11:14:30AM -0400, Michael Kimsal wrote:
: 
: Perhaps you should just use cold fusion then, if you're that
: hot and heavy into tag-based languages.
: 
: tagservlet.com has a Java/CF hybrid which may hold some interest.
: 
: PHP's strength, IMO, is that it's NOT a tag-based language.  You can create
: any functions you want and call them already from a  combination
: 
: 

ColdFusion 5 finally allows users to define functions, so the above
strength for PHP is now a strength for ColdFusion.


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Re: [PHP] Re: More thoughts about PHP: Taglibs

2001-09-11 Thread Michael Kimsal

Perhaps you should just use cold fusion then, if you're that
hot and heavy into tag-based languages.

tagservlet.com has a Java/CF hybrid which may hold some interest.

PHP's strength, IMO, is that it's NOT a tag-based language.  You can create
any functions you want and call them already from a  combination




Separating code/content is a much stronger idea, with just variable 
replacements
in the 'template'.  In the examples below, how do you gracefully handle 
errors?
You don't - not without addding more code to the file.  

Or look more into XML/XSLT stuff.  

nicolas costes wrote:

>maybe one day, PHP will implement user defined tags 
>this could be an idea, if this is prooved to be useful.
>
>
>
>(°-Nayco,
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>ORIGINAL MESSAGE->
>
>Yep this is not bad!
>
>>
>>Hello, .  Your last login was .
>>
>>
>
>and now using PHP's short tags, you can make it even prettier:
>
> 
> Hello, .  Your last login was .
> 
>
>Right?
>
>"Dr. Evil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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>>It seems to me that one of the problems with PHP is that you have to
>>include code in your HTML pages.  Even with the cleanest design, you
>>end up with HTML that looks like this:
>>
>>
>>Hello, .  Your last login was >showlastlogin(); ?>.
>>
>>
>>This is ok, but it seems to me that java taglibs provide a more
>>elegant way to do the same things:
>>
>>
>>Hello, .  Your last login was .
>>
>>
>>This lets the backend stuff be completely separated from the html
>>design part of things.  What do people think of this?  I'm just now
>>learning JSP so I'm thinking about the differences between PHP and
>>JSP.
>>
>>In general, both are powerful ways of creating dynamic websites, but
>>they have different characteristics and are better for different
>>things.  I'm learning java but I will continue to use both, depending
>>on the task.
>>
>
>
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[PHP] Re: More thoughts about PHP: Taglibs

2001-09-11 Thread nicolas costes

maybe one day, PHP will implement user defined tags 
this could be an idea, if this is prooved to be useful.



(°-Nayco,
//\[EMAIL PROTECTED]
v_/_ http://nayco.free.fr

ORIGINAL MESSAGE->

Yep this is not bad!
> 
> Hello, .  Your last login was .
> 

and now using PHP's short tags, you can make it even prettier:

 
 Hello, .  Your last login was .
 

Right?

"Dr. Evil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> It seems to me that one of the problems with PHP is that you have to
> include code in your HTML pages.  Even with the cleanest design, you
> end up with HTML that looks like this:
>
> 
> Hello, .  Your last login was  showlastlogin(); ?>.
> 
>
> This is ok, but it seems to me that java taglibs provide a more
> elegant way to do the same things:
>
> 
> Hello, .  Your last login was .
> 
>
> This lets the backend stuff be completely separated from the html
> design part of things.  What do people think of this?  I'm just now
> learning JSP so I'm thinking about the differences between PHP and
> JSP.
>
> In general, both are powerful ways of creating dynamic websites, but
> they have different characteristics and are better for different
> things.  I'm learning java but I will continue to use both, depending
> on the task.



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[PHP] Re: More thoughts about PHP: Taglibs

2001-09-11 Thread _lallous

Yep this is not bad!
> 
> Hello, .  Your last login was .
> 

and now using PHP's short tags, you can make it even prettier:

 
 Hello, .  Your last login was .
 

Right?

"Dr. Evil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> It seems to me that one of the problems with PHP is that you have to
> include code in your HTML pages.  Even with the cleanest design, you
> end up with HTML that looks like this:
>
> 
> Hello, .  Your last login was  showlastlogin(); ?>.
> 
>
> This is ok, but it seems to me that java taglibs provide a more
> elegant way to do the same things:
>
> 
> Hello, .  Your last login was .
> 
>
> This lets the backend stuff be completely separated from the html
> design part of things.  What do people think of this?  I'm just now
> learning JSP so I'm thinking about the differences between PHP and
> JSP.
>
> In general, both are powerful ways of creating dynamic websites, but
> they have different characteristics and are better for different
> things.  I'm learning java but I will continue to use both, depending
> on the task.



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