Re: SPECS: vim.spec - with python, ruby and tcl by default - rel 3 for...

2007-06-17 Thread Elan Ruusamäe
On Sunday 17 June 2007, Jakub Bogusz wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 09:45:54PM +0200, Cezary Krzyzanowski wrote:
> > Dnia 17-06-2007, N o godzinie 17:55 +0100, wrobell napisał(a):
> > > imho it should be off by default. if one wants fat vim, then please
> > > create vim-enahnced/vim-fat/whatever packages.
> >
> > 1. What is fat? perl is fat for me, python not and it was on by default
> > 2. Vim static is the choice for slim solutions.
>
> Just for the record:
>
> $ rpm -q --qf '%-12{NAME}: %{SIZE}\n' perl-base python-libs ruby tcl vim-rt
> perl-base   : 2936355
vim needs just perl-libs (at least on AC) --
$ rpm -q --qf '%-12{NAME}: %{SIZE}\n' perl-libs
perl-libs   : 1146552

vim works with just perl-libs, but do the perl functions actually work -- no 
idea never used language bindings.

> python-libs : 1828755
> ruby: 1094668
> tcl : 4306684
> vim-rt  : 14952921
>
> (assuming that libs packages suffice to run vim without complaints)
>
> But the original question was: do particular language support overhead is
> worth its benefits?
i believe not.

> Are there already some packaged or custom vim addons which need all these
> languages?
afaik none.

the language bindings should be dynamic -- loaded at runtime if needed that 
would be sane solution :)

seems currently impossible as the code is full of #ifdef FEAT_

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Re: NEW poldek 0.20070617.23 - please test

2007-06-17 Thread Arkadiusz Miskiewicz
On Monday 18 of June 2007, Bartosz Taudul wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 11:42:22PM +0200, Arkadiusz Miskiewicz wrote:
> > New poldek snap (0.20070617.23) was sent to Th builders. It has
> > improvements in handling package colors and *tadam* multilib
> > capabilities.
> >
> > Please test :)
>
> błąd: libxslt-1.1.21-1.athlon package color (0) is not equal to
> libxslt-1.1.21-1.athlon.rpm's one (1) błąd: libxslt-progs-1.1.21-1.athlon
> package color (0) is not equal to libxslt-progs-1.1.21-1.athlon.rpm's one
> (1) There were package coloring mismatches. Proceed? [y/N]
>
> wolf

Not sure what's the problem but there is one important thing with new poldek - 
fetch ALL indexes from scratch using that new poldek.

There was bug in poldek that prevented colors from being properly propagated.

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Re: NEW poldek 0.20070617.23 - please test

2007-06-17 Thread Artur Frysiak
2007/6/18, Bartosz Taudul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 11:42:22PM +0200, Arkadiusz Miskiewicz wrote:
> > New poldek snap (0.20070617.23) was sent to Th builders. It has improvements
> > in handling package colors and *tadam* multilib capabilities.
> >
> > Please test :)
> błąd: libxslt-1.1.21-1.athlon package color (0) is not equal to 
> libxslt-1.1.21-1.athlon.rpm's one (1)
> błąd: libxslt-progs-1.1.21-1.athlon package color (0) is not equal to 
> libxslt-progs-1.1.21-1.athlon.rpm's one (1)
> There were package coloring mismatches. Proceed? [y/N]
>

touch /var/lib/rpm/Packages and re-run poldek.

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Re: NEW poldek 0.20070617.23 - please test

2007-06-17 Thread Bartosz Taudul
On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 11:42:22PM +0200, Arkadiusz Miskiewicz wrote:
> New poldek snap (0.20070617.23) was sent to Th builders. It has improvements 
> in handling package colors and *tadam* multilib capabilities.
> 
> Please test :)
błąd: libxslt-1.1.21-1.athlon package color (0) is not equal to 
libxslt-1.1.21-1.athlon.rpm's one (1)
błąd: libxslt-progs-1.1.21-1.athlon package color (0) is not equal to 
libxslt-progs-1.1.21-1.athlon.rpm's one (1)
There were package coloring mismatches. Proceed? [y/N]

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NEW poldek 0.20070617.23 - please test

2007-06-17 Thread Arkadiusz Miskiewicz

Hello,

New poldek snap (0.20070617.23) was sent to Th builders. It has improvements 
in handling package colors and *tadam* multilib capabilities.

Please test :)
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Re: SPECS: vim.spec - with python, ruby and tcl by default - rel 3 for...

2007-06-17 Thread Jakub Bogusz
On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 09:45:54PM +0200, Cezary Krzyzanowski wrote:
> Dnia 17-06-2007, N o godzinie 17:55 +0100, wrobell napisał(a):
> 
> > imho it should be off by default. if one wants fat vim, then please create
> > vim-enahnced/vim-fat/whatever packages.
> 
> 1. What is fat? perl is fat for me, python not and it was on by default
> 2. Vim static is the choice for slim solutions.

Just for the record:

$ rpm -q --qf '%-12{NAME}: %{SIZE}\n' perl-base python-libs ruby tcl vim-rt
perl-base   : 2936355
python-libs : 1828755
ruby: 1094668
tcl : 4306684
vim-rt  : 14952921

(assuming that libs packages suffice to run vim without complaints)

But the original question was: do particular language support overhead is
worth its benefits?
Are there already some packaged or custom vim addons which need all these
languages?


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Re: SPECS: vim.spec - with python, ruby and tcl by default - rel 3 for...

2007-06-17 Thread Cezary Krzyzanowski
Dnia 17-06-2007, N o godzinie 17:55 +0100, wrobell napisał(a):

> imho it should be off by default. if one wants fat vim, then please create
> vim-enahnced/vim-fat/whatever packages.

1. What is fat? perl is fat for me, python not and it was on by default
2. Vim static is the choice for slim solutions.

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Re: SPECS: vim.spec - with python, ruby and tcl by default - rel 3 for...

2007-06-17 Thread wrobell
On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 05:41:19PM +0200, Jakub Bogusz wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 05:20:07PM +0200, czarny wrote:
> > Author: czarny   Date: Tue Jun  5 15:20:07 2007 GMT
> > Module: SPECS Tag: HEAD
> >  Log message:
> > - with python, ruby and tcl by default
> 
> IIRC this makes vim binary depend on python, ruby and tcl libraries.
> Is it worth its profits?

imho it should be off by default. if one wants fat vim, then please create
vim-enahnced/vim-fat/whatever packages.

regards,

wrobell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Re: SPECS: vim.spec - with python, ruby and tcl by default - rel 3 for...

2007-06-17 Thread Jakub Bogusz
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 05:20:07PM +0200, czarny wrote:
> Author: czarny   Date: Tue Jun  5 15:20:07 2007 GMT
> Module: SPECS Tag: HEAD
>  Log message:
> - with python, ruby and tcl by default

IIRC this makes vim binary depend on python, ruby and tcl libraries.
Is it worth its profits?


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Re: SPECS (AC-branch): spamassassin.spec - more -compile deps

2007-06-17 Thread Elan Ruusamäe
On Saturday 16 June 2007, Jakub Bogusz wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 08:43:17PM +0300, Elan Ruusamäe wrote:
> > On Wednesday 13 June 2007 20:40:53 glen wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > > +Requires:glibc-headers
> > >  Requires:make
> > >  Requires:perl(ExtUtils::MakeMaker)
> > >  Requires:perl-Mail-SpamAssassin = %{version}-%{release}
> > > @@ -338,6 +339,9 @@
> >
> > maybe this dependency should be in perl-devel package instead?
>
> Well, in fact all *-devel packages with glibc-based C interfaces should
> require glibc-devel...
yes that was fixed later. but the actual question was, should the glibc-devel 
dep be in sa-compile or perl-devel package?

i see two points:
- in perl-devel because the perl-devel headers use glibc-headers, 

- in sa-devel because sa-devel actually invokdes gcc while perl-devel you 
might need for some other reason.


> (OC it can be omitted for *-devel which require *-devel already requiring
> glibc-devel)


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Re: SPECS (AC-branch): kernel-vanilla.spec - fix for PPC failing when ...

2007-06-17 Thread Łukasz Jernaś
Dnia sobota, 16 czerwca 2007, Marcin Król napisał:
> > "vanilla" means "unmodified". And you are changing that kernel. Doesn't
> > matter if it's cosmetics or not. No matter if it's patch or sed.
>
> Yes. I know all that. By my previous mail I was trying to say: "then it
> was never vanilla kernel" as sed was used to modify makefile since the
> first revision.

mv kernel-vanilla.spec kernel-millivanilli.spec on the CVS side? ;)

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