Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: TKR-820 CTCSS/DCS EEPROM
Skipp, sent you a message, but sometimes messages from my domain are put in spam on yahoo. I still haven't figured out why, so if you don't get it in your inbox, check the spam folder. Jeff -- From: "skipp025" Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 12:51 AM To: Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: TKR-820 CTCSS/DCS EEPROM > > > Hi Jeff, > > I have a few DCS TKR-720/820 Eprom files in my collection. Email > me direct if you haven't got it figured out by the weekend. I > have a KPT-50, the software and the ponyprog setup you have > so I can help as time allows. > > With that software and an inexpensive EEprom Programmer easily > found on Ebay... you can do a lot of neat stuff... like the > mentioned. > > cheers, > > skipp025 at yahoo.com > > --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Lavoie - KB1SPH/WQEX694" > wrote: >> >> Ok, let me make it a little more clear for anybody that might not have >> understood the first message. (No offense intended Eric) >> >> A Kenwood TKR-820 repeater has CTCSS and DCS encoding and decoding built >> into it with an on-board controller. The configuration is stored in a >> EEPROM chip, 93C46 (or 93LC46). >> >> What I'm trying to do is figure out how to change the configuration >> without >> using the expensive Kenwood programmers, unfortunately this one isn't >> just a >> simple cable. >> >> I have a serial EEPROM reader/writer, so I used instructions found in the >> repeater-builder archives at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com/msg63481.html >> to modify the configuration for the ctcss tones. Unfortunately, the >> person >> who wrote that article didn't figure out the DCS configuration. >> >> So I'm hoping that someone who has a TKR-820 already configured for DCS >> has >> the ability to read the EEPROM chip as well and send me a copy. >> >> I hope that clears it up a little more. >> >> Jeff, KB1SPH / WQEX694 >> >> >> -- >> From: "Eric Lemmon" >> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 10:24 PM >> To: >> Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-820 CTCSS/DCS EEPROM >> >> > Jeff, >> > >> > I suspect you may be headed for disappointment. CTCSS (PL) and CDCSS >> > (DPL) >> > are handled differently within the radio. While the former is audio, >> > albeit >> > sub-audible, the latter requires a DC connection to the modulator in >> > order >> > to create the DCS signal at a 134.4 Hz rate. In other words the CTCSS >> > hardware will not work for CDCSS. Perhaps some readers who have >> > TKR-820 >> > stations with CDCSS capability can advise you about the modifications >> > and/or >> > optional modules that are necessary to handle DCS. >> > >> > 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY >> > >> > >> > -Original Message- >> > From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com >> > [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of kb1...@... >> > Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 7:03 PM >> > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com >> > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-820 CTCSS/DCS EEPROM >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Ok, I'm playing around with my Kenwood TKR-820 a bit. I've found the >> > instructions for HEX editing the channel and ctcss information after >> > reading it from the EEPROM, and they work great. But there's nothing >> > about DCS. I'm wiing to try and decipher how to get the DCS, but I >> > need a look at the information from a chip that contains DCS >> > information. Since I don't have a real programmer I can't change mine >> > and then look at it. So if anyone has a TKR-820 with DCS in it and a >> > EEPROM reader, it would be greatly appreciated if you are wiling to >> > read >> > the chip with PonyProg2000 (http://www.lancos.com/ppwin95.html) and >> > send >> > me a copy. >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Jeff, KB1SPH / WQEX694 >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Yahoo! Groups Links >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >
Re: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-820 CTCSS/DCS EEPROM
Well I'm not particularly needing any one code at the moment, just trying to figure out how exactly to figure out the hex codes. Thanks for the great tutorial on the rest. It makes it easy to change the config when I want instead of having to call someone with a programmer. Now if I can find a connector that goes into the socket on top of the display board I could just wire up a connection to the ICSP connector on my board and make it easier for the frequencies. This information should be put on the repeater-builder web site if it's not already. I couldn't find it, but maybe I didn't look close enough. Jeff, KB1SPH / WQEX694 -- From: "DCFluX" Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 12:35 AM To: Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-820 CTCSS/DCS EEPROM > Hey, I didn't need DCS at the time. > > Looks like TX code is at 80-81 Hex, and RX code is 82-83 > > 81 EC = D023N > 81 E6 = D026N > > What DCS code do you need? > > On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 8:46 PM, Jeff Lavoie - KB1SPH/WQEX694 > wrote: >> Ok, let me make it a little more clear for anybody that might not have >> understood the first message. (No offense intended Eric) >> >> A Kenwood TKR-820 repeater has CTCSS and DCS encoding and decoding built >> into it with an on-board controller. The configuration is stored in a >> EEPROM chip, 93C46 (or 93LC46). >> >> What I'm trying to do is figure out how to change the configuration >> without >> using the expensive Kenwood programmers, unfortunately this one isn't >> just a >> simple cable. >> >> I have a serial EEPROM reader/writer, so I used instructions found in the >> repeater-builder archives at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com/msg63481.html >> to modify the configuration for the ctcss tones. Unfortunately, the >> person >> who wrote that article didn't figure out the DCS configuration. >> >> So I'm hoping that someone who has a TKR-820 already configured for DCS >> has >> the ability to read the EEPROM chip as well and send me a copy. >> >> I hope that clears it up a little more. >> >> Jeff, KB1SPH / WQEX694 >> >> >> -- >> From: "Eric Lemmon" >> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 10:24 PM >> To: >> Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-820 CTCSS/DCS EEPROM >> >>> Jeff, >>> >>> I suspect you may be headed for disappointment. CTCSS (PL) and CDCSS >>> (DPL) >>> are handled differently within the radio. While the former is audio, >>> albeit >>> sub-audible, the latter requires a DC connection to the modulator in >>> order >>> to create the DCS signal at a 134.4 Hz rate. In other words the CTCSS >>> hardware will not work for CDCSS. Perhaps some readers who have TKR-820 >>> stations with CDCSS capability can advise you about the modifications >>> and/or >>> optional modules that are necessary to handle DCS. >>> >>> 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com >>> [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of >>> kb1...@wqex694.info >>> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 7:03 PM >>> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com >>> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-820 CTCSS/DCS EEPROM >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Ok, I'm playing around with my Kenwood TKR-820 a bit. I've found the >>> instructions for HEX editing the channel and ctcss information after >>> reading it from the EEPROM, and they work great. But there's nothing >>> about DCS. I'm wiing to try and decipher how to get the DCS, but I >>> need a look at the information from a chip that contains DCS >>> information. Since I don't have a real programmer I can't change mine >>> and then look at it. So if anyone has a TKR-820 with DCS in it and a >>> EEPROM reader, it would be greatly appreciated if you are wiling to read >>> the chip with PonyProg2000 (http://www.lancos.com/ppwin95.html) and send >>> me a copy. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Jeff, KB1SPH / WQEX694 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >
Re: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-820 CTCSS/DCS EEPROM
Ok, let me make it a little more clear for anybody that might not have understood the first message. (No offense intended Eric) A Kenwood TKR-820 repeater has CTCSS and DCS encoding and decoding built into it with an on-board controller. The configuration is stored in a EEPROM chip, 93C46 (or 93LC46). What I'm trying to do is figure out how to change the configuration without using the expensive Kenwood programmers, unfortunately this one isn't just a simple cable. I have a serial EEPROM reader/writer, so I used instructions found in the repeater-builder archives at http://www.mail-archive.com/repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com/msg63481.html to modify the configuration for the ctcss tones. Unfortunately, the person who wrote that article didn't figure out the DCS configuration. So I'm hoping that someone who has a TKR-820 already configured for DCS has the ability to read the EEPROM chip as well and send me a copy. I hope that clears it up a little more. Jeff, KB1SPH / WQEX694 -- From: "Eric Lemmon" Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 10:24 PM To: Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-820 CTCSS/DCS EEPROM > Jeff, > > I suspect you may be headed for disappointment. CTCSS (PL) and CDCSS > (DPL) > are handled differently within the radio. While the former is audio, > albeit > sub-audible, the latter requires a DC connection to the modulator in order > to create the DCS signal at a 134.4 Hz rate. In other words the CTCSS > hardware will not work for CDCSS. Perhaps some readers who have TKR-820 > stations with CDCSS capability can advise you about the modifications > and/or > optional modules that are necessary to handle DCS. > > 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY > > > -Original Message- > From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of kb1...@wqex694.info > Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 7:03 PM > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-820 CTCSS/DCS EEPROM > > > > > Ok, I'm playing around with my Kenwood TKR-820 a bit. I've found the > instructions for HEX editing the channel and ctcss information after > reading it from the EEPROM, and they work great. But there's nothing > about DCS. I'm wiing to try and decipher how to get the DCS, but I > need a look at the information from a chip that contains DCS > information. Since I don't have a real programmer I can't change mine > and then look at it. So if anyone has a TKR-820 with DCS in it and a > EEPROM reader, it would be greatly appreciated if you are wiling to read > the chip with PonyProg2000 (http://www.lancos.com/ppwin95.html) and send > me a copy. > > Thanks, > Jeff, KB1SPH / WQEX694 > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >
Re: [Repeater-Builder] TKR-820 CTCSS/DCS EEPROM
It appears my "L" button doesn't work half the time, guess I need to take my keyboard apart and clean it. Jeff On 7/16/2010, "kb1sph" wrote: > >Ok, I'm playing around with my Kenwood TKR-820 a bit. I've found the >instructions for HEX editing the channel and ctcss information after >reading it from the EEPROM, and they work great. But there's nothing >about DCS. I'm wiing to try and decipher how to get the DCS, but I >need a look at the information from a chip that contains DCS >information. Since I don't have a real programmer I can't change mine >and then look at it. So if anyone has a TKR-820 with DCS in it and a >EEPROM reader, it would be greatly appreciated if you are wiling to read >the chip with PonyProg2000 (http://www.lancos.com/ppwin95.html) and send >me a copy. > >Thanks, >Jeff, KB1SPH / WQEX694 > > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > >
[Repeater-Builder] TKR-820 CTCSS/DCS EEPROM
Ok, I'm playing around with my Kenwood TKR-820 a bit. I've found the instructions for HEX editing the channel and ctcss information after reading it from the EEPROM, and they work great. But there's nothing about DCS. I'm wiing to try and decipher how to get the DCS, but I need a look at the information from a chip that contains DCS information. Since I don't have a real programmer I can't change mine and then look at it. So if anyone has a TKR-820 with DCS in it and a EEPROM reader, it would be greatly appreciated if you are wiling to read the chip with PonyProg2000 (http://www.lancos.com/ppwin95.html) and send me a copy. Thanks, Jeff, KB1SPH / WQEX694
Re: [Repeater-Builder] CSI-32 (Lynnwood Washington) Repeater Tone Panel Controller Information
Ok, I've searched all over the board and have found no date on it., other than "Copyright 1988". As for the chips in it, well, other than the standard chips probably in every model, here's what I've found that might help, they're in sockets. MK48Z02B25 - CMOS 2K x 8 XEROPOWER SRAM NMC27C128BQ250 - High Speed Version 131,072-Bit(16k x 8) UV Erasable CMOS PROM (Basically 128K) And this one I'm not sure why it's in a socket, I can't imagine it needing to be removed. MC6840P - Programmable Timer Module Maybe the "6289" handwritten on the label is suposed to be a date, but other than that all I can find is a number stamped onto the board that looks like a serial number, "08901009" There is a big blank spot where, according to what I've read, there is supposed to be an AC->DC converter, but mine doesn't have the AC feature. I haven't actually checked the bottom side, but I don't imagine they would have printed it there. On the plus side, my CSI-32 has a custom made internal switch to change the COS from high or low trigger. I was annoyed because it only takes a high trigger and my repeater has a low trigger. so I added a little board with a dpdt switch and transistor inverting circuit. Jeff, KB1SPH / WQEX694 On 7/12/2010, "skipp025" wrote: > > > >> "Jeff Lavoie - KB1SPH/WQEX694" wrote: >> Thanks Skipp, that helps a great deal. I've found a lot of >> useful information on repeater-builder.com over the years, > >Hi Jeff, >Just don't buy a car from any of us and you'll be fine. > >> I was wondering if you had any information about a >> CSI-32 tone panel and possible firmware upgrades. The >> EPROM inside has a sticker on it that says the >> following. >> 128 v4.0 >> 6289 (I think, hard to read) >> © CSI > >In regards to the CSI (Lynnwood Washington CSI, not the Ventura >CA. CSI) brand of Repeater Tone/DCS Controllers. The latest >firmware version is based on the PC Board date of construction, >which is most often silk screened in white ink right on the board. > >V4.0 was one of the last firmware versions available for most >of the CSI-32 Controllers. As time allows I could check my files >for firmware information but I would need to know your pc board >date code in addition to all the other details. Right now I'd say >the 4.0 stuff is pretty much it in regards to updates. > >cheers, >s. > > > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > >
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: question for commercial radio shops
That makes sense. I wonder if the ground crew could trick the ground receiver into un-muting the audio from the shuttle so that they can listen in on what's going on. Jeff, KB1SPH / WQEX694 -- From: "Martin Flynn" Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 11:16 PM To: Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: question for commercial radio shops > Spacecraft systems are full-duplex. The purpose of the "Quindar tones" > was to mute the uplink audio when Houston had nothing to say. > > ka9qjg wrote: >> >> >> Meant a lot to the First Astronauts with Communications that is how >> it got started I think , I forget if it was a Pre or after Transmission >> >> Don >> >> KA9QJ >> > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Recrystal MSR-2000 Channel Elements
George, sent the money. It will come from a different e-mail address, but it will have my name. Jeff, KB1SPH / WQEX694 -- From: "George Henry" Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 1:49 PM To: Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Recrystal MSR-2000 Channel Elements > I'm only looking to recoup what I have invested in them... $50 for the > pair. > At the moment, I have lots of spares, but sure, I'll take another set. > > If you do Paypal, you can pay me at ka3...@aol.com. > > George, KA3HSW > > >> >>From: Jeff Lavoie - KB1SPH/WQEX694 >>To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com >>Sent: Mon, July 12, 2010 10:17:12 PM >>Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Recrystal MSR-2000 Channel Elements >> >> >>Actually 462.600 is the frequency I'm currently running my Kenwood on. I >>would probably be putting the Motorola on the same frequency with a >>different PL at a different location. That would solve a lot of headaches >>if you're willing to part with them. I was thinking about doing ham later >>down the road if GMRS goes away, I'm sure you've all heard about the >>proposed rule changes. But until I hear that GMRS repeaters are not >>allowed >>(or must be narrow band) I'll be setting it up on GMRS. The Kenwood is >>more >>set up for a portable repeater for events right now. A group of us get >>together and help out with events when there aren't enough ham volunteers. >> >>Let me know what you want for the channel elements. If you're interested I >>would be willing to send you a set of channel elements back if you need >>them >>as spares. >> >>Jeff, KB1SPH / WQEX694 >> >>-- >>From: "George Henry" >>Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 1:59 PM >>To: >>Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Recrystal MSR-2000 Channel Elements >> >>> What frequencies are you looking for? Ham or GMRS, I presume... I've got >>> a >>> bunch of MSR-2K elements if you need any, including a set for a 462.600 >>> GMRS >>> repeater. >>> >>> >>> >>> George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413 >>> >>> >>>> >>>>From: Jeff Lavoie - KB1SPH/WQEX694 >>>>To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com >>>>Sent: Mon, July 12, 2010 1:15:28 AM >>>>Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Recrystal MSR-2000 Channel Elements (and >>>>a >>>>guacamole recipe) >>>> >>>> >>>>Thanks Skipp, that helps a great deal. I've found a lot of usefule >>>>information on repeater-builder.com over the years, but I just finally >>>>signed up for the yahoo group yesterday, I don't know why I waited. >>>> >>>>Bomar sounds like a good place to start with. >>>> >>>>I got this MSR-2000 for $25 at a hamfest because the guy didn't want to >>>>load >>>>it up in his truck to take it back home. I was buying a Kenwood TKR-820 >>>>and >>>>he said, "I'll tell you what, I'll give you the pair for $50." How could >>>>I >>>>go wrong? The Kenwood is working great thanks to repeater-builder.com. >>>> >>>>On another note, I sent you a message a few days ago, but sometimes >>>>yahoo >>>>blocks my messagesnot sure why. >>>> >>>>I was wondering if you had any information about a CSI-32 tone panel and >>>>possible firmware upgrades. The EPROM inside has a sticker on it that >>>>says >>>>the following. >>>> >>>>128 v4.0 >>>>6289 (I think, hard to read) >>>>© CSI >>>> >>>>- Jeff >>>> >>> > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: question for commercial radio shops
That would make some interesting research. Honestly I like having my repeater controller do a beep at a lower audio level when someone un-keys. Low enough to be heard, but not be a nuisance. If someone is closer to the repeater you may not know if they've un-keyed until the repeater itself drops out. With a courtesy tone (as they're called now) it lets the other person know you've un-keyed and they can key up again. But I'll admit some of these beeps that the bubble packs and CBs have are really annoying. Jeff, KB1SPH / WQEX694 From: ka9qjg Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 11:02 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: question for commercial radio shops Meant a lot to the First Astronauts with Communications that is how it got started I think , I forget if it was a Pre or after Transmission Don KA9QJG Nothing if you're name is roger. From: Larry Horlick Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 10:02 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: question for commercial radio shops Hey, what's wrong with a roger beep?'beep' On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 9:56 PM, skipp025 wrote: <>
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: question for commercial radio shops
Nothing if you're name is roger. From: Larry Horlick Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 10:02 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: question for commercial radio shops Hey, what's wrong with a roger beep?'beep' On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 9:56 PM, skipp025 wrote: > If a person whom you knew and is involved in a number > of church youth camps activities asked you to program > FRS frequencies into a 4w UHF HT type accepted for LMR > would you do so ? It would only be for extended range > at camp. If the radio power can be reduced, turn it down and program the FRS frequencies in. If the power can't be reduced, put the radios on GMRS Frequencies. Many of the Kenwood Portables I sell allow power level programming per channel so the FRS gets low and the other stuff gets the nominal rated power. FRS Radios are sold cheap at the big box stores... try to find the ones that allow you to turn off the $...@%@*%& stupid roger beeps s. <>
Re: [Repeater-Builder] question for commercial radio shops
If everyone using them had a GMRS license (one license covers the family) you could probably get away with using GMRS frequencies, but not FRS. Some part 90 radios were certified for part 95 as well, mostly Kenwood I think. Motorola radios were not part 95 certified usually because of the digital capabilities (MDC, STAR) and Motorola didn't want to sell cheap radios, they're a bit greedy and wanted the big bucks from commercial. Of course, that doesn't stop some of us from using them anyway. In the end, it's up to you, but I would say no to FRS. An alternative may be to find some cheap MURS radios. They are license free and I think they're allowed up to 2 watts as opposed to the 500mw FRS. Also, if they are using bubble pack FRS radios on a channel higher than 7, chances are (if they are made within the last few years) they are just as powerful as the LMR radios. The only difference is usually the antenna, they probably have the equivalent to a stubby uhf antenna on the LMR radios, which does make a difference in range. I really do not think it would help the range too much, unless you're talking about using mobiles, then I would definitely say no to doing it. Jeff, KB1SPH / WQEX694 -- From: "Chris Curtis" Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 8:29 PM To: Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] question for commercial radio shops > I pastor a motorcycle ministry and have no problem saying no to illegal or > "fringe" "favors" from fellow church members. > > I also try to help them find a "legal" solution to whatever > problem/project > they have. > > Good luck > > Kb0wlf > >> -Original Message- >> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater- >> buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of KD5SFA >> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 7:24 PM >> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com >> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] question for commercial radio shops >> >> If a person whom you knew and is involved in a number >> of church youth camps activities asked you to program >> FRS frequencies into a 4w UHF HT type accepted for LMR >> would you do so ? It would only be for extended range >> at camp. >> >> My gut is to tell him no... >> >> Sorry for the slightly off topic postI just need a >> little extra thought on the subject... >> >> Bad thing is the person asking is the captain of my >> Volunteer FD. >> >> 73, >> Jon >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.5.441 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2962 - Release Date: >> 07/13/10 06:36:00 > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >
Re: [Repeater-Builder] CSI-32 (Lynnwood Washington) Repeater Tone Panel Controller Information
Ok, I can get you the date code tomorrow if you find some spare time to check. It's too bad I couldn't get a copy of the original code and maybe modify it myself. I like to tinker around with existing programming a bit, but I wouldn't know where to begin if I were to start from scratch. Jeff, KB1SPH / WQEX694 -- From: "skipp025" Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 2:18 PM To: Subject: [Repeater-Builder] CSI-32 (Lynnwood Washington) Repeater Tone Panel Controller Information > > > >> "Jeff Lavoie - KB1SPH/WQEX694" wrote: >> Thanks Skipp, that helps a great deal. I've found a lot of >> useful information on repeater-builder.com over the years, > > Hi Jeff, > Just don't buy a car from any of us and you'll be fine. > >> I was wondering if you had any information about a >> CSI-32 tone panel and possible firmware upgrades. The >> EPROM inside has a sticker on it that says the >> following. >> 128 v4.0 >> 6289 (I think, hard to read) >> © CSI > > In regards to the CSI (Lynnwood Washington CSI, not the Ventura > CA. CSI) brand of Repeater Tone/DCS Controllers. The latest > firmware version is based on the PC Board date of construction, > which is most often silk screened in white ink right on the board. > > V4.0 was one of the last firmware versions available for most > of the CSI-32 Controllers. As time allows I could check my files > for firmware information but I would need to know your pc board > date code in addition to all the other details. Right now I'd say > the 4.0 stuff is pretty much it in regards to updates. > > cheers, > s. > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Recrystal MSR-2000 Channel Elements
Actually 462.600 is the frequency I'm currently running my Kenwood on. I would probably be putting the Motorola on the same frequency with a different PL at a different location. That would solve a lot of headaches if you're willing to part with them. I was thinking about doing ham later down the road if GMRS goes away, I'm sure you've all heard about the proposed rule changes. But until I hear that GMRS repeaters are not allowed (or must be narrow band) I'll be setting it up on GMRS. The Kenwood is more set up for a portable repeater for events right now. A group of us get together and help out with events when there aren't enough ham volunteers. Let me know what you want for the channel elements. If you're interested I would be willing to send you a set of channel elements back if you need them as spares. Jeff, KB1SPH / WQEX694 -- From: "George Henry" Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 1:59 PM To: Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Recrystal MSR-2000 Channel Elements > What frequencies are you looking for? Ham or GMRS, I presume... I've got > a > bunch of MSR-2K elements if you need any, including a set for a 462.600 > GMRS > repeater. > > > > George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413 > > >> >>From: Jeff Lavoie - KB1SPH/WQEX694 >>To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com >>Sent: Mon, July 12, 2010 1:15:28 AM >>Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Recrystal MSR-2000 Channel Elements (and a >>guacamole recipe) >> >> >>Thanks Skipp, that helps a great deal. I've found a lot of usefule >>information on repeater-builder.com over the years, but I just finally >>signed up for the yahoo group yesterday, I don't know why I waited. >> >>Bomar sounds like a good place to start with. >> >>I got this MSR-2000 for $25 at a hamfest because the guy didn't want to >>load >>it up in his truck to take it back home. I was buying a Kenwood TKR-820 >>and >>he said, "I'll tell you what, I'll give you the pair for $50." How could I >>go wrong? The Kenwood is working great thanks to repeater-builder.com. >> >>On another note, I sent you a message a few days ago, but sometimes yahoo >>blocks my messagesnot sure why. >> >>I was wondering if you had any information about a CSI-32 tone panel and >>possible firmware upgrades. The EPROM inside has a sticker on it that says >>the following. >> >>128 v4.0 >>6289 (I think, hard to read) >>© CSI >> >>- Jeff >> > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Recrystal MSR-2000 Channel Elements (and a guacamole recipe)
e professionally with temperature >> compensation. > > Yeah but in many cases "professional" is a lot more expensive > than it really has to be. > >> But what I want to know is how I can do it myself just >> to get started and make sure everything is going to work >> the way I want before I pay out big bucks to have it all >> done the right way. I have an extra set of channel >> elements, so playing around with one set isn't going to >> affect having the other set done professionally if I >> mess something up. > > For me there are two regular places to order crystals. The > first is International Crystal Manufacturing, always high > quality but you will find the pricing a bit steep for any > casual crystal/channel element work. > > The second location for me is Bomar, where I pretty much > buy all my channel element crystals. Their quality, pricing > and wait time is in my opinion more than fair. Their only > down side (to me) is their $50 min order amount. So you might > need to order a few extra crystals to make an order amount. > Not a problem if you think ahead or pal-up with someone else > to place an order. > > I call Bomar with a Visa Card in the other hand, tell them I > want Crystals for Mitrek/MSR-2000 Channel Elements KXN-1086 > and KXN-1088 types. There are other MSR Channel Element numbers > you can use, but the above model numbers are the most popular > and should be interchangeable with anything you might have. > At a price of about $15/$20 per crystal (last time I had some > cut) I order at least 4 crystals to make the min order amount. > > Wait the normal time (they do have rush service for more $$) > and the "rocks" show up at your door. > > Carefully remove the Channel Element Cover along with the > insulating sleeve and desolder the old crystal, replacing it > with your new rock. Replace the cover, label the channel > element with the new frequency and your ready to rock and > roll. > >> Thanks for any help you can give me, >> Jeff - KB1SPH / WQEX694 > > There are other places to buy crystals but I haven't used > their services so I obviously have no qualified comments on > those sources. > > Good luck Jeff... jump in, the water is fine (but it's deep) > > cheers, > s. > > http://simplyrecipes.com/recipes/perfect_guacamole/ > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >
