Re: [Samba] Automatic Windows Patch Deployment "autoit"

2003-10-31 Thread Thomas Reiß
Hallo rruegner, 

> Hi,
> i tested autoit from samba netlogon and it works like charme
> for sure you have to be admin for several programs but you can start any
> install
> with "run as" funktion if desired.
> your service idea with firestarter seems to me a very good idea, i will
> include that in my thoughts
> to universal deployment.
> i think if more people would share to this problem a gnu deployment system
> like "netinstall" should be possible
> i wonder that there are not many projects about that

Hmm, a cool Solution could be a port of the rpm or dpkg Packetsystem as 
a Windows Service with Admin Privilegs.

So you have all the good things like in Linux like

- Versioning
- Dependens
- pre/post Skripts

and so on.

Greetings
Thomas


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Re: [Samba] Automatic Windows Patch Deployment "autoit"

2003-10-29 Thread Nathan Ehresman
On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 08:30:10AM -0600, Jerry Haltom wrote:
> THere is one big problem with netlogon scripts that make them impossible
> im most environments: You have to log on as Administrator. Software
> usually requires Administrator to be installed/removed. Having the
> installation run as LocalSystem in the background gets around this (and
> also keeps your users from messing with the procedure).

I too use AutoIt, but just at the time of the initial build of the OS and
apps.  For installing updates I use Lanovation's Prism Pack, which allows
me to install software via login scripts as a non administrator user.
Works great for us to push updates out to a bunch of computer labs.  My
only beef with it is that it doesn't support NTFS ACLs, so it can be a pain
if some app needs a different permission set than it would normally get.

Nathan Ehresman

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Re: [Samba] Automatic Windows Patch Deployment "autoit"

2003-10-28 Thread rruegner
Hi,
i tested autoit from samba netlogon and it works like charme
for sure you have to be admin for several programs but you can start any
install
with "run as" funktion if desired.
your service idea with firestarter seems to me a very good idea, i will
include that in my thoughts
to universal deployment.
i think if more people would share to this problem a gnu deployment system
like "netinstall" should be possible
i wonder that there are not many projects about that
Best Regards
- Original Message - 
From: "Jerry Haltom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "rruegner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Samba] Automatic Windows Patch Deployment "autoit"


> AutoIt fits in perfectly with the wpkg utility mentioned above.
>
> THere is one big problem with netlogon scripts that make them impossible
> im most environments: You have to log on as Administrator. Software
> usually requires Administrator to be installed/removed. Having the
> installation run as LocalSystem in the background gets around this (and
> also keeps your users from messing with the procedure).
>
> On Mon, 2003-10-27 at 07:29, rruegner wrote:
> > Hi @all,
> > i just played around to have an universal deploy solution which
> > is simple and handy
> > the tool autoit ( its a keyboard simulator for windows )
> > is a tricky freeware way to distribute every software you might need.
> > with netlogon you can check if software is installed if not than
> > you can start a from an autoit compiled exe to install the software from
> > samba server
> > This is not a prof solution which may work in big networks but it is
free
> > and simple.
> > i use it to implement antivir free version everytime a winclient joins
the
> > domain and has no antivirus.
> > also i created the update service for antivir ( which is no service in
the
> > free version )
> > maybe someone is interested in that stuff
> > Regards
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "Jerry Haltom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 2:16 AM
> > Subject: [Samba] Automatic Windows Patch Deployment (OS Agnostic)
> >
> >
> > > A month ago I mentioned on this list work on a automated package
> > > deployment tool for Windows systems, which is server agnostic. At the
> > > time, I didn't have the time to put it up in a place for public
> > > consumption. I do now.
> > >
> > > The utility is named wpkg (punny isn't it?) It's nothing more than a
> > > simple .js (jscript) file which needs to be run on Windows, from a
> > > directory containing three XML files describing packages, hosts, and
> > > profiles to be installed on a system.
> > >
> > > Each package consists of nothing more than a set of command lines to
run
> > > on install/upgrade/removal, a version number, and a name. When the
> > > script is run (preferably as a service at boot, using srvany.exe, or
> > > FireDaemon), it checks a local C:\$SYS$\System32\wpkg.xml file, which
> > > lists the package entries of locally installed packages, determines
> > > which new packages are available, and attempts to install them
according
> > > to their command lines, and reboots if neccassary.
> > >
> > > It is very simple, but I've now been running it for a week, with about
> > > 10 boxes (about to roll it out to all my systems), and it is totally
> > > successful. It's very easy to add new packages, or upgade existing
> > > packages, and then force a system wide reboot.
> > >
> > > I am sending it to the list because I imagine there are similar
Windows
> > > administrators out there, running Samba (or not) that need a good
> > > software deployment utility. Microsoft's SUS sort of requires IIS, SMS
> > > isn't much better. Also, I would like people to check it out, and
submit
> > > patches, or changes, or new features to me, so that I may make use of
> > > them too. :)
> > >
> > > The source code is currently hosted on my subversion repository, at:
> > >
> > > http://jack.feedbackplusinc.com/svn/repos/wpkg/
> > >
> > > Username: guest
> > > Password: your email address
> > >
> > > The package is released under the GPL. (Can one of you license guru's
> > > tell me if the GPL is appropiate for a windows patcher written in
> > > jscript?)
> > >
> > > Enjoy.
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > My current setup is using this sytem, with FireDaemon to launch the
> > > service at start. Soon as Monday rolls around, im going to play with
the
> > > ResKit's srvany.exe program.
> > >
> > > -- 
> > > Jerry Haltom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Feedback Plus, Inc.
> > >
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> > >
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> Feedback Plus, Inc.
>
>

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Re: [Samba] Automatic Windows Patch Deployment "autoit"

2003-10-27 Thread Jerry Haltom
AutoIt fits in perfectly with the wpkg utility mentioned above.

THere is one big problem with netlogon scripts that make them impossible
im most environments: You have to log on as Administrator. Software
usually requires Administrator to be installed/removed. Having the
installation run as LocalSystem in the background gets around this (and
also keeps your users from messing with the procedure).

On Mon, 2003-10-27 at 07:29, rruegner wrote:
> Hi @all,
> i just played around to have an universal deploy solution which
> is simple and handy
> the tool autoit ( its a keyboard simulator for windows )
> is a tricky freeware way to distribute every software you might need.
> with netlogon you can check if software is installed if not than
> you can start a from an autoit compiled exe to install the software from
> samba server
> This is not a prof solution which may work in big networks but it is free
> and simple.
> i use it to implement antivir free version everytime a winclient joins the
> domain and has no antivirus.
> also i created the update service for antivir ( which is no service in the
> free version )
> maybe someone is interested in that stuff
> Regards
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Jerry Haltom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 2:16 AM
> Subject: [Samba] Automatic Windows Patch Deployment (OS Agnostic)
> 
> 
> > A month ago I mentioned on this list work on a automated package
> > deployment tool for Windows systems, which is server agnostic. At the
> > time, I didn't have the time to put it up in a place for public
> > consumption. I do now.
> >
> > The utility is named wpkg (punny isn't it?) It's nothing more than a
> > simple .js (jscript) file which needs to be run on Windows, from a
> > directory containing three XML files describing packages, hosts, and
> > profiles to be installed on a system.
> >
> > Each package consists of nothing more than a set of command lines to run
> > on install/upgrade/removal, a version number, and a name. When the
> > script is run (preferably as a service at boot, using srvany.exe, or
> > FireDaemon), it checks a local C:\$SYS$\System32\wpkg.xml file, which
> > lists the package entries of locally installed packages, determines
> > which new packages are available, and attempts to install them according
> > to their command lines, and reboots if neccassary.
> >
> > It is very simple, but I've now been running it for a week, with about
> > 10 boxes (about to roll it out to all my systems), and it is totally
> > successful. It's very easy to add new packages, or upgade existing
> > packages, and then force a system wide reboot.
> >
> > I am sending it to the list because I imagine there are similar Windows
> > administrators out there, running Samba (or not) that need a good
> > software deployment utility. Microsoft's SUS sort of requires IIS, SMS
> > isn't much better. Also, I would like people to check it out, and submit
> > patches, or changes, or new features to me, so that I may make use of
> > them too. :)
> >
> > The source code is currently hosted on my subversion repository, at:
> >
> > http://jack.feedbackplusinc.com/svn/repos/wpkg/
> >
> > Username: guest
> > Password: your email address
> >
> > The package is released under the GPL. (Can one of you license guru's
> > tell me if the GPL is appropiate for a windows patcher written in
> > jscript?)
> >
> > Enjoy.
> >
> > --
> >
> > My current setup is using this sytem, with FireDaemon to launch the
> > service at start. Soon as Monday rolls around, im going to play with the
> > ResKit's srvany.exe program.
> >
> > -- 
> > Jerry Haltom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Feedback Plus, Inc.
> >
> > -- 
> > To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the
> > instructions:  http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
> >
> >
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Re: [Samba] Automatic Windows Patch Deployment "autoit"

2003-10-27 Thread rruegner
Hi @all,
i just played around to have an universal deploy solution which
is simple and handy
the tool autoit ( its a keyboard simulator for windows )
is a tricky freeware way to distribute every software you might need.
with netlogon you can check if software is installed if not than
you can start a from an autoit compiled exe to install the software from
samba server
This is not a prof solution which may work in big networks but it is free
and simple.
i use it to implement antivir free version everytime a winclient joins the
domain and has no antivirus.
also i created the update service for antivir ( which is no service in the
free version )
maybe someone is interested in that stuff
Regards
- Original Message - 
From: "Jerry Haltom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 2:16 AM
Subject: [Samba] Automatic Windows Patch Deployment (OS Agnostic)


> A month ago I mentioned on this list work on a automated package
> deployment tool for Windows systems, which is server agnostic. At the
> time, I didn't have the time to put it up in a place for public
> consumption. I do now.
>
> The utility is named wpkg (punny isn't it?) It's nothing more than a
> simple .js (jscript) file which needs to be run on Windows, from a
> directory containing three XML files describing packages, hosts, and
> profiles to be installed on a system.
>
> Each package consists of nothing more than a set of command lines to run
> on install/upgrade/removal, a version number, and a name. When the
> script is run (preferably as a service at boot, using srvany.exe, or
> FireDaemon), it checks a local C:\$SYS$\System32\wpkg.xml file, which
> lists the package entries of locally installed packages, determines
> which new packages are available, and attempts to install them according
> to their command lines, and reboots if neccassary.
>
> It is very simple, but I've now been running it for a week, with about
> 10 boxes (about to roll it out to all my systems), and it is totally
> successful. It's very easy to add new packages, or upgade existing
> packages, and then force a system wide reboot.
>
> I am sending it to the list because I imagine there are similar Windows
> administrators out there, running Samba (or not) that need a good
> software deployment utility. Microsoft's SUS sort of requires IIS, SMS
> isn't much better. Also, I would like people to check it out, and submit
> patches, or changes, or new features to me, so that I may make use of
> them too. :)
>
> The source code is currently hosted on my subversion repository, at:
>
> http://jack.feedbackplusinc.com/svn/repos/wpkg/
>
> Username: guest
> Password: your email address
>
> The package is released under the GPL. (Can one of you license guru's
> tell me if the GPL is appropiate for a windows patcher written in
> jscript?)
>
> Enjoy.
>
> --
>
> My current setup is using this sytem, with FireDaemon to launch the
> service at start. Soon as Monday rolls around, im going to play with the
> ResKit's srvany.exe program.
>
> -- 
> Jerry Haltom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Feedback Plus, Inc.
>
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