Re: [Simh] Tops-10 question/help

[Quentin North]

Thanks Rich. At Tim’s suggestion I cracked it by giving the user account 
profile a quota on dskb: and that automatically included dskb: in the search 
list for the user account.

> On 9 Feb 2018, at 00:25, Rich Alderson  wrote:
> 
>> From: Quentin North 
>> Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2018 20:27:12 +
> 
>  [ snip the REACT stuff which Tim Litt answered ]
> 
>> When I login with a user that I have created I don't seem to get a default
>> SSL and dsk: is not assigned to dskb. If I manually assign dskb: dsk: that
>> seems to work in that I can direct, but it doesn't seem to just do that.
> 
>> .login quentin
>> Job 3  KS10  TTY1
>> %LGNSLE Search list is empty
>> 20:057-Feb-118   Wednesday
> 
>> .dir
> 
>> %WLDSLE Search list empty
>> .dir dsk:
> 
>> %WLDSLE Search list empty dsk:
> 
> Well, when you boot the OS, you can define a system search list prior to
> issuing the GO command.  Type a "?" at the "Startup option:" prompt to see 
> what
> all you can do there.
> 
> You can also define a system search list by logging in as a privileged user.
> Since the OPERATOR ([1,2]) is automagically logged in by the startup, issue 
> the
> PUSH command in OPR to get to a command prompt and issue the command
> 
> .R SETSRC
> *CS DSKB:
> *^Z
> 
> You will now have a system search list defined.  This is permanent until
> something clobbers it; it will ride out system crashes, etc.
> 
> .HELP SETSRC will provide you with all the ugly information on this useful
> command.
> 
>Rich

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Re: [Simh] Tops-10 question/help

[Timothe Litt]

On 07-Feb-18 15:27, Quentin North wrote:
> Hi all
>
> A bit off topic, but Im not a historical Dec user so don’t know some
> of the basics with Dec OSes and have never oped one before.
>
> I have installed and configured Tops-10 on a simh PDP10.
>
> It is all fine, but when I am creating user accounts I have bumped
> into two minor issues and after wading through some enormous manuals I
> am none the wiser on how to solve. The issues are:
>
> When I set up a new users I get  a message something like: 
> New user PPN: [27,100]
> %REANDF No default project 27 profile found
>
> How do I set up the default profile and where (show mentions [27,%] or
> [%,%] but I don’t understand these PPNs)?
>
> When I login with a user that I have created I don’t seem to get a
> default SSL and dsk: is not assigned to dskb. If I manually assign
> dskb: dsk: that seems to work in that I can direct, but it doesn’t
> seem to just do that.
>
> .login quentin
> Job 3  KS10  TTY1
> %LGNSLE Search list is empty
> 20:05    7-Feb-118   Wednesday
>
> .dir
>
> %WLDSLE Search list empty 
>
> .dir dsk:
>
> %WLDSLE Search list empty dsk:
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
> Quentin
>

The defaults for a group are under the PPN [27,%].  Just create it with
react.  If there is no [27,%], the system-wide default is [%,%].  %
represents a reserved project or programmer number.  It is accepted by
the parser.

The search list for a user is defined by the disks on which quotas are
assigned.  Again, in react.

.r react

react>change [27,200] ; or [27,%], or [%,%]

change>structure-quota dskb inf inf

(I'm not quite sure of the exact syntax; it's been a while since I had
to do this - use '?')

I believe that react is documented in the tops-10 installation guide.

This assumes a relatively recent monitor.  The older react had a more
cryptic UI, and it's own specification in the software notebooks.  I
think it was about 7.02 when the new react was written using GLXLIB. 
The early prototypes had horrible performance due to a homebrew file
structure.  We had university customers with thousands of accounts.  I
converted it to use RMS index files - which upset the RMS group (who
thought RMS-10 would only be used for COBOL), but the performance was
stellar.  So the RMS group was instructed to fix the one bug that this
uncovered.





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[Simh] Tops-10 question/help

[Quentin North]

Hi all

A bit off topic, but Im not a historical Dec user so don’t know some of the 
basics with Dec OSes and have never oped one before.

I have installed and configured Tops-10 on a simh PDP10.

It is all fine, but when I am creating user accounts I have bumped into two 
minor issues and after wading through some enormous manuals I am none the wiser 
on how to solve. The issues are:

When I set up a new users I get  a message something like: 
New user PPN: [27,100]
%REANDF No default project 27 profile found

How do I set up the default profile and where (show mentions [27,%] or [%,%] 
but I don’t understand these PPNs)?

When I login with a user that I have created I don’t seem to get a default SSL 
and dsk: is not assigned to dskb. If I manually assign dskb: dsk: that seems to 
work in that I can direct, but it doesn’t seem to just do that.

.login quentin
Job 3  KS10  TTY1
%LGNSLE Search list is empty
20:057-Feb-118   Wednesday

.dir

%WLDSLE Search list empty 

.dir dsk:

%WLDSLE Search list empty dsk:

Thanks for any help.

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