Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

2018-09-05 Thread Ant via support-seamonkey

On 9/5/2018 12:27 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Ant wrote:

On 9/4/2018 10:57 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Ant wrote:


On 9/2/2018 10:15 AM, David E. Ross wrote:


Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64)
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.49.4

I do not have this problem.


Is that your SM's UA? If so, then how come not its default "User 
agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.4)"?


Edit | Preferences | Advanced | HTTP Networking
[ ] Advertise Firefox compatibility

Toggle this pref to "on" to restore the default with "Firefox/52.0."


Mine is already checkmarked.


Well, you did ask, "how come not its default...?" David must have it 
unchecked. It helps with some sites.


Yeah, unchecking it to "User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; 
rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.4" makes the search look correct. 
:/ How often do web sites not work with and without this option?

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Re: CSS to have nested unorgered list with non-default indentation and no bullets

2018-09-05 Thread David E. Ross
On 9/5/2018 1:50 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 09/05/2018 12:38 AM, David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 9/4/2018 10:56 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
>>> I'm creating a custom web page to display my SeaMonkey bookmarks my way.
>>> I have chosen to use nested unordered lists. I have ~3500 bookmarks in
>>>   >500 folders nested several levels deep. I have two problems.
>>>
>>> The default indentation is too large causing items to line-wrap.
>>> The presence of bullets serves no purpose and is *UGLY*.
>>>
>>> I've been wandering a convoluted path thru the web finding only enough
>>> to tantalize. I keep ending up on poorly designed pages.
>>>
>>> Suggestions?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> My bookmark hierarchy has four levels of folders.  I have the following
>> in the userChrome.css file in the chrome folder of my profile:
>>  /*  Indent folders */
>>  @-moz-document
>>  url("file:///xxx/bookmarks.html")
>>  { body { margin-left: 2em !important; font-size: 12pt }
>>  h3 + dl { margin-left: 2em !important }  }
>> where xxx is the full path to my bookmarks.html file.
>>
>> I automatically export my bookmarks from places.sqlite to bookmarks.html
>> every time I terminate SeaMonkey, which is often since I frequntly
>> switch between profiles (which effectively terminates and then
>> relaunches SeaMonkey).  The export is effected by having
>>  user_pref("browser.bookmarks.autoExportHTML", true);
>>  // automatically export bookmarks into an HTML file
>> in my user.js file in my profile.  (The // indicates a comment to remind
>> me why I have that entry.  The ; at the end of the user_pref statement
>> is mandatory.)
>>
> 
> I copied those into the appropriate files.
> NOTHING happened :<
> 
> 

Did you replace the xxx with the actual path to your bookmarks.html
file?  You do have a bookmarks.html file?

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Re: CSS to have nested unorgered list with non-default indentation and no bullets

2018-09-05 Thread Richard Owlett

On 09/05/2018 10:34 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 9/5/2018 1:50 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

On 09/05/2018 12:38 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 9/4/2018 10:56 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

I'm creating a custom web page to display my SeaMonkey bookmarks my way.
I have chosen to use nested unordered lists. I have ~3500 bookmarks in
   >500 folders nested several levels deep. I have two problems.

The default indentation is too large causing items to line-wrap.
The presence of bullets serves no purpose and is *UGLY*.

I've been wandering a convoluted path thru the web finding only enough
to tantalize. I keep ending up on poorly designed pages.

Suggestions?




My bookmark hierarchy has four levels of folders.  I have the following
in the userChrome.css file in the chrome folder of my profile:
/*  Indent folders */
@-moz-document
url("file:///xxx/bookmarks.html")
{ body { margin-left: 2em !important; font-size: 12pt }
h3 + dl { margin-left: 2em !important }  }
where xxx is the full path to my bookmarks.html file.

I automatically export my bookmarks from places.sqlite to bookmarks.html
every time I terminate SeaMonkey, which is often since I frequntly
switch between profiles (which effectively terminates and then
relaunches SeaMonkey).  The export is effected by having
user_pref("browser.bookmarks.autoExportHTML", true);
// automatically export bookmarks into an HTML file
in my user.js file in my profile.  (The // indicates a comment to remind
me why I have that entry.  The ; at the end of the user_pref statement
is mandatory.)



I copied those into the appropriate files.
NOTHING happened :<




Did you replace the xxx with the actual path to your bookmarks.html
file?  You do have a bookmarks.html file?



Yes. But I suspect a system problem of some sort.
I posted in wee hours of morning making no more than a  
post.


The other associated symptom was that edit of user.js had had no effect.
I manually tweaked the preference using about:config . I still got no 
HTML file on shutdown.


Having been in customer service  for decades, I 
suspected "Murphy". So I just now created an empty file with the 
appropriate name. Still "no joy in Mudville" ;/


I've avoided addons/addins/etc since the Netscape 4 days - so that's not 
the problem.


I've had no cause to tweak userChrome.css nor user.js for >> 10 years.
Is there a bug I would not have noticed?

I've set aside this afternoon to discover some diagnostic test cases. I 
*DOUBT* that any explicit diagnostics for this case exists. I was thus 
going to search out articles on how/why to tweak those files.


Suggestions welcome :}

P.S. I've been a "corner case" since ~"Hector was a pup"  ;/


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Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

2018-09-05 Thread David E. Ross
On 9/4/2018 9:27 PM, Ant wrote:
> On 9/2/2018 10:15 AM, David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 9/2/2018 10:07 AM, no...@nonospam.org wrote:
>>> Yesterday morning, when I went to google.com, the cursor was displaced
>>> to the top of the search box instead of being centered, and as I typed
>>> in a search some of the words would spill over to a second line in the
>>> search box. This happened only with SM, and it happened on every
>>> computer I tried it on.
>>>
>>> Later in the day, the problem disappeared, but today it is back again. I
>>> haven't seen this on any other website.
>>>
>>> Why is this only showing up on SM and not on Firefox, IE11, or Edge? Any
>>> ideas on how to eliminate it? Thanks!
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>
>> Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64)
>> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
>>  SeaMonkey/2.49.4
>>
>> I do not have this problem.
> 
> Is that your SM's UA? If so, then how come not its default "User agent: 
> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 
> SeaMonkey/2.49.4)"?
> 

I disable "Advertise Firefox compatibility" because I want to advertise
the existence of SeaMonkey.  Using PrefBar, I can also have the UA string
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.49.4, NOT Firefox/60.0

Furthermore, I also use the Secret Agent extension, which keeps changing
my UA string -- among other spoofed HTTP header fields -- to confound
tracking me.

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Re: CSS to have nested unorgered list with non-default indentation and no bullets

2018-09-05 Thread David E. Ross
On 9/5/2018 10:20 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 09/05/2018 10:34 AM, David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 9/5/2018 1:50 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
>>> On 09/05/2018 12:38 AM, David E. Ross wrote:
 On 9/4/2018 10:56 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
> I'm creating a custom web page to display my SeaMonkey bookmarks my way.
> I have chosen to use nested unordered lists. I have ~3500 bookmarks in
>>500 folders nested several levels deep. I have two problems.
>
> The default indentation is too large causing items to line-wrap.
> The presence of bullets serves no purpose and is *UGLY*.
>
> I've been wandering a convoluted path thru the web finding only enough
> to tantalize. I keep ending up on poorly designed pages.
>
> Suggestions?
>
>

 My bookmark hierarchy has four levels of folders.  I have the following
 in the userChrome.css file in the chrome folder of my profile:
/*  Indent folders */
@-moz-document
url("file:///xxx/bookmarks.html")
{ body { margin-left: 2em !important; font-size: 12pt }
h3 + dl { margin-left: 2em !important }  }
 where xxx is the full path to my bookmarks.html file.

 I automatically export my bookmarks from places.sqlite to bookmarks.html
 every time I terminate SeaMonkey, which is often since I frequntly
 switch between profiles (which effectively terminates and then
 relaunches SeaMonkey).  The export is effected by having
user_pref("browser.bookmarks.autoExportHTML", true);
// automatically export bookmarks into an HTML file
 in my user.js file in my profile.  (The // indicates a comment to remind
 me why I have that entry.  The ; at the end of the user_pref statement
 is mandatory.)

>>>
>>> I copied those into the appropriate files.
>>> NOTHING happened :<
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Did you replace the xxx with the actual path to your bookmarks.html
>> file?  You do have a bookmarks.html file?
>>
> 
> Yes. But I suspect a system problem of some sort.
> I posted in wee hours of morning making no more than a  
> post.
> 
> The other associated symptom was that edit of user.js had had no effect.
> I manually tweaked the preference using about:config . I still got no 
> HTML file on shutdown.
> 
> Having been in customer service  for decades, I 
> suspected "Murphy". So I just now created an empty file with the 
> appropriate name. Still "no joy in Mudville" ;/
> 
> I've avoided addons/addins/etc since the Netscape 4 days - so that's not 
> the problem.
> 
> I've had no cause to tweak userChrome.css nor user.js for >> 10 years.
> Is there a bug I would not have noticed?
> 
> I've set aside this afternoon to discover some diagnostic test cases. I 
> *DOUBT* that any explicit diagnostics for this case exists. I was thus 
> going to search out articles on how/why to tweak those files.
> 
> Suggestions welcome :}
> 
> P.S. I've been a "corner case" since ~"Hector was a pup"  ;/
> 
> 

Entries and changes to user.js have no effect until you completely
terminate SeaMonkey and then relaunch it unless, of course, you edit
user.js while SeaMonkey is already terminated.  (It is possible that the
same might be true of userChrome.css.)  Then, the automatic export from
places.sqlite to bookmarks.html occurs the next time (and each time
thereafter) you terminate SeaMonkey.

Furthermore, you are using SeaMonkey under Linux.  I am using SeaMonkey
under windows.  There might be differences.

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Re: CSS to have nested unorgered list with non-default indentation and no bullets

2018-09-05 Thread Richard Owlett

On 09/05/2018 01:48 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 9/5/2018 10:20 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

On 09/05/2018 10:34 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 9/5/2018 1:50 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

On 09/05/2018 12:38 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 9/4/2018 10:56 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

I'm creating a custom web page to display my SeaMonkey bookmarks my way.
I have chosen to use nested unordered lists. I have ~3500 bookmarks in
>500 folders nested several levels deep. I have two problems.

The default indentation is too large causing items to line-wrap.
The presence of bullets serves no purpose and is *UGLY*.

I've been wandering a convoluted path thru the web finding only enough
to tantalize. I keep ending up on poorly designed pages.

Suggestions?




My bookmark hierarchy has four levels of folders.  I have the following
in the userChrome.css file in the chrome folder of my profile:
/*  Indent folders */
@-moz-document
url("file:///xxx/bookmarks.html")
{ body { margin-left: 2em !important; font-size: 12pt }
h3 + dl { margin-left: 2em !important }  }
where xxx is the full path to my bookmarks.html file.

I automatically export my bookmarks from places.sqlite to bookmarks.html
every time I terminate SeaMonkey, which is often since I frequntly
switch between profiles (which effectively terminates and then
relaunches SeaMonkey).  The export is effected by having
user_pref("browser.bookmarks.autoExportHTML", true);
// automatically export bookmarks into an HTML file
in my user.js file in my profile.  (The // indicates a comment to remind
me why I have that entry.  The ; at the end of the user_pref statement
is mandatory.)



I copied those into the appropriate files.
NOTHING happened :<




Did you replace the xxx with the actual path to your bookmarks.html
file?  You do have a bookmarks.html file?



Yes. But I suspect a system problem of some sort.
I posted in wee hours of morning making no more than a 
post.

The other associated symptom was that edit of user.js had had no effect.
I manually tweaked the preference using about:config . I still got no
HTML file on shutdown.

Having been in customer service  for decades, I
suspected "Murphy". So I just now created an empty file with the
appropriate name. Still "no joy in Mudville" ;/

I've avoided addons/addins/etc since the Netscape 4 days - so that's not
the problem.

I've had no cause to tweak userChrome.css nor user.js for >> 10 years.
Is there a bug I would not have noticed?

I've set aside this afternoon to discover some diagnostic test cases. I
*DOUBT* that any explicit diagnostics for this case exists. I was thus
going to search out articles on how/why to tweak those files.

Suggestions welcome :}

P.S. I've been a "corner case" since ~"Hector was a pup"  ;/




Entries and changes to user.js have no effect until you completely
terminate SeaMonkey and then relaunch it unless, of course, you edit
user.js while SeaMonkey is already terminated.  (It is possible that the
same might be true of userChrome.css.)  Then, the automatic export from
places.sqlite to bookmarks.html occurs the next time (and each time
thereafter) you terminate SeaMonkey.

Furthermore, you are using SeaMonkey under Linux.  I am using SeaMonkey
under windows.  There might be differences.



*ROFL*
I've ancient copy of WinXP Pro on another machine.
I'll investigate permutations tomorrow ;/


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Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

2018-09-05 Thread Lee
On 9/5/18, David E. Ross  wrote:
  <.. snip ..>
>
> Furthermore, I also use the Secret Agent extension, which keeps changing
> my UA string -- among other spoofed HTTP header fields -- to confound
> tracking me.

Are you using a VPN?  If no, tracking by ip address is probably good
enough.  And if you have javascript enabled.. there are plenty too
many hits for a search on "javascript fingerprinting"

Regards,
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Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

2018-09-05 Thread Paul in Houston, TX

Ant wrote:

On 9/2/2018 10:07 AM, no...@nonospam.org wrote:

Yesterday morning, when I went to google.com, the cursor was displaced to the 
top of the
search box instead of being centered, and as I typed in a search some of the 
words would
spill over to a second line in the search box. This happened only with SM, and 
it
happened on every computer I tried it on.

Later in the day, the problem disappeared, but today it is back again. I 
haven't seen
this on any other website.

Why is this only showing up on SM and not on Firefox, IE11, or Edge? Any ideas 
on how to
eliminate it? Thanks!


Same here. :(


This does not show up my SM machines.  It only shows up on my FF machines.
I do not have both on any of the machines.  Changing UA makes no difference for 
me.
A good sniffer will ignore the UA string and ID your machine, anyways.
Rumors have it that there are no people at Google, only bots.


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Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

2018-09-05 Thread Ant via support-seamonkey

On 9/2/2018 10:15 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 9/2/2018 10:07 AM, no...@nonospam.org wrote:

Yesterday morning, when I went to google.com, the cursor was displaced
to the top of the search box instead of being centered, and as I typed
in a search some of the words would spill over to a second line in the
search box. This happened only with SM, and it happened on every
computer I tried it on.

Later in the day, the problem disappeared, but today it is back again. I
haven't seen this on any other website.

Why is this only showing up on SM and not on Firefox, IE11, or Edge? Any
ideas on how to eliminate it? Thanks!

John



Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64)
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.49.4

I do not have this problem.


FYI. https://i.imgur.com/dIHofdp.gif for a screen shot/capture of this 
issue with User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.4. :(

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Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

2018-09-05 Thread Ant via support-seamonkey
Where exactly? I just got an unofficial answer in my 
https://groups.google.com/a/googleproductforums.com/d/msgid/websearch/52647935-ab18-4451-981a-c80bd11afad9%40googleproductforums.com 
forum thread. Maybe you can share your screen shot/capture too.


On 9/4/2018 10:21 PM, rjkrjk wrote:

I also left feedback on the site.dont expect much

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Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

2018-09-05 Thread Ant via support-seamonkey

On 9/4/2018 10:57 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Ant wrote:


On 9/2/2018 10:15 AM, David E. Ross wrote:


Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64)
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.49.4

I do not have this problem.


Is that your SM's UA? If so, then how come not its default "User 
agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.4)"?


Edit | Preferences | Advanced | HTTP Networking
[ ] Advertise Firefox compatibility

Toggle this pref to "on" to restore the default with "Firefox/52.0."


Mine is already checkmarked.
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Re: CSS to have nested unorgered list with non-default indentation and no bullets

2018-09-05 Thread Richard Owlett

On 09/05/2018 12:38 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 9/4/2018 10:56 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

I'm creating a custom web page to display my SeaMonkey bookmarks my way.
I have chosen to use nested unordered lists. I have ~3500 bookmarks in
  >500 folders nested several levels deep. I have two problems.

The default indentation is too large causing items to line-wrap.
The presence of bullets serves no purpose and is *UGLY*.

I've been wandering a convoluted path thru the web finding only enough
to tantalize. I keep ending up on poorly designed pages.

Suggestions?




My bookmark hierarchy has four levels of folders.  I have the following
in the userChrome.css file in the chrome folder of my profile:
/*  Indent folders */
@-moz-document
url("file:///xxx/bookmarks.html")
{ body { margin-left: 2em !important; font-size: 12pt }
h3 + dl { margin-left: 2em !important }  }
where xxx is the full path to my bookmarks.html file.


I think you just solved a multitude of problems.
When I wake up, I'll have to investigate further.

Is there a survey article that would cover that code and its cousins.
I'm not looking for an intro to CSS in general, but for something on 
SeaMonkey's use of it.




I automatically export my bookmarks from places.sqlite to bookmarks.html
every time I terminate SeaMonkey, which is often since I frequntly
switch between profiles (which effectively terminates and then
relaunches SeaMonkey).  The export is effected by having
user_pref("browser.bookmarks.autoExportHTML", true);
// automatically export bookmarks into an HTML file
in my user.js file in my profile.  (The // indicates a comment to remind
me why I have that entry.  The ; at the end of the user_pref statement
is mandatory.)



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Re: CSS to have nested unorgered list with non-default indentation and no bullets

2018-09-05 Thread Richard Owlett

On 09/05/2018 12:38 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 9/4/2018 10:56 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

I'm creating a custom web page to display my SeaMonkey bookmarks my way.
I have chosen to use nested unordered lists. I have ~3500 bookmarks in
  >500 folders nested several levels deep. I have two problems.

The default indentation is too large causing items to line-wrap.
The presence of bullets serves no purpose and is *UGLY*.

I've been wandering a convoluted path thru the web finding only enough
to tantalize. I keep ending up on poorly designed pages.

Suggestions?




My bookmark hierarchy has four levels of folders.  I have the following
in the userChrome.css file in the chrome folder of my profile:
/*  Indent folders */
@-moz-document
url("file:///xxx/bookmarks.html")
{ body { margin-left: 2em !important; font-size: 12pt }
h3 + dl { margin-left: 2em !important }  }
where xxx is the full path to my bookmarks.html file.

I automatically export my bookmarks from places.sqlite to bookmarks.html
every time I terminate SeaMonkey, which is often since I frequntly
switch between profiles (which effectively terminates and then
relaunches SeaMonkey).  The export is effected by having
user_pref("browser.bookmarks.autoExportHTML", true);
// automatically export bookmarks into an HTML file
in my user.js file in my profile.  (The // indicates a comment to remind
me why I have that entry.  The ; at the end of the user_pref statement
is mandatory.)



I copied those into the appropriate files.
NOTHING happened :<


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Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

2018-09-05 Thread GerardJan

Lee wrote:

On 9/5/18, David E. Ross  wrote:
   <.. snip ..>


Furthermore, I also use the Secret Agent extension, which keeps changing
my UA string -- among other spoofed HTTP header fields -- to confound
tracking me.


Are you using a VPN?  If no, tracking by ip address is probably good
enough.  And if you have javascript enabled.. there are plenty too
many hits for a search on "javascript fingerprinting"

Regards,
Lee



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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 
SeaMonkey/2.49.4

Build identifier: 20180711183816
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Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

2018-09-05 Thread rjkrjk

at the bottom of the google search page, lower right corner SETTINGS / Send 
Feedback




Ant wrote on 9/5/18 2:31 AM:
Where exactly? I just got an unofficial answer in my 
https://groups.google.com/a/googleproductforums.com/d/msgid/websearch/52647935-ab18-4451-981a-c80bd11afad9%40googleproductforums.com 
forum thread. Maybe you can share your screen shot/capture too.


On 9/4/2018 10:21 PM, rjkrjk wrote:

I also left feedback on the site.dont expect much

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Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

2018-09-05 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Ant wrote:


On 9/2/2018 10:15 AM, David E. Ross wrote:


Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64)
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.49.4

I do not have this problem.


Is that your SM's UA? If so, then how come not its default "User agent: 
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 
SeaMonkey/2.49.4)"?


Edit | Preferences | Advanced | HTTP Networking
[ ] Advertise Firefox compatibility

Toggle this pref to "on" to restore the default with "Firefox/52.0."

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Re: CSS to have nested unorgered list with non-default indentation and no bullets

2018-09-05 Thread Richard Owlett

On 09/05/2018 12:18 AM, Lee wrote:

On 9/4/18, Richard Owlett  wrote:

On 09/04/2018 02:11 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:

On 09/04/2018 01:34 PM, Lee wrote:

On 9/4/18, Richard Owlett  wrote:

I'm creating a custom web page to display my SeaMonkey bookmarks my way.
I have chosen to use nested unordered lists. I have ~3500 bookmarks in
   >500 folders nested several levels deep. I have two problems.

The default indentation is too large causing items to line-wrap.
The presence of bullets serves no purpose and is *UGLY*.


https://www.w3schools.com/css/css_list.asp


I've been wandering a convoluted path thru the web finding only enough
to tantalize. I keep ending up on poorly designed pages.

Suggestions?


Javascript + CSS to hide/display folder contents
https://www.w3schools.com/css/css_display_visibility.asp

Allows you to do something like

+ folder 1
+ folder 2
+ folder 3

where clicking on a plus sign shows whatever is in that folder
(and turns the plus to a minus so you can hide the folder contents again)

Lee



It looks like my phrasing led you astray.
When saying "folder" I was referring to what you see when selecting
"Bookmarks->Manage Bookmarks".

It might have been cleared if I had said "I have a nested unordered list
which I wish to resemble a directory tree."

A .. sequence is almost right.
I hate bullets. I need smaller indentations. I suspect CSS is the tool.
Thank you.




ul{
list-style-type: none;
padding: 0;
margin-left: 5;
}

Gets me almost there, but I can't distinguish between "padding" and
"margin".


I think if you don't have a border there's no difference.
   https://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/box.html#box-padding-area


That's what I've been looking for!



w3schools is good for basic examples & explanations but they don't go very deep


You are being much to kind.


w3.org sometimes assumes too much background knowledge
I haven't found the happy middle yet :(


The page you gave comes close. There's much that isn't clear. *BUT* I'm 
left with a relatively well formed question in mind. Lots of links is 
also good.


Thank you.




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Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

2018-09-05 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Ant wrote:

On 9/4/2018 10:57 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Ant wrote:


On 9/2/2018 10:15 AM, David E. Ross wrote:


Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64)
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.49.4

I do not have this problem.


Is that your SM's UA? If so, then how come not its default "User 
agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.4)"?


Edit | Preferences | Advanced | HTTP Networking
[ ] Advertise Firefox compatibility

Toggle this pref to "on" to restore the default with "Firefox/52.0."


Mine is already checkmarked.


Well, you did ask, "how come not its default...?" David must have it 
unchecked. It helps with some sites.


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