[Tagging] Storm water control works?
there are a lot of “works” that are related to control stormwater runoff / flooding control stations (more than just a valve on a levee), that close / monitor the water outflow/inflow that is normally open for rice farming/storm runoff, and closes for extreme weather events, but it seems to be more than just a valve on a levee, as there are hundreds of thousands of those already - these are some kind of facility that go with that object. I would be tempted to tag them with man_made=water_works, but it looks like that it’s only for drinking water. this is storm / flood control. Is there some other man_made=* for stormwater control works (beyond levees), or a modifier key for man_made=water_works? The thing I’m working with is called a drainage station or a pumping station for wastewater control ( 排水機場 ) . In one larger city here, (according to a city PDF http://www.city.narita.chiba.jp/DAT/000103890.pdf http://www.city.narita.chiba.jp/DAT/000103890.pdf page 3 [115]) there are 50 of these stations there alone. There are probably several thousand of these around Japan, and lots of other places built up that deal with flooding. https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/35.80825/140.31914 https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/35.80825/140.31914 Any suggestions beyond an industrial landuse? Maybe this abandoned proposal? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Pumping_Station http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Pumping_Station This area gets a ton of water. https://www.flickr.com/photos/javbw/11091220855/in/album-72157638113676925/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/javbw/11091220855/in/album-72157638113676925/ Javbw ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
[Tagging] oil binding agent?
I am looking for the English term for granulate that is made to absorb oil that was spilled due to a leak or a vehicle accident and threatens ground water. The granulate is often stored in boxes along forest tracks in water protection areas. In Austria, the boxes are labelled ÖLBINDEMITTEL, which is the German word for the substance. Dictionaries return oilbinder, oil binder, oil binding agent and oil absorbent, but some of them seem to be used for cooking, which is not what I mean. In any case, this certainly belongs to the emergency=* key, e.g. emergency=oil_binding_agent. But amenity=* might also be ok. -- Friedrich K. Volkmann http://www.volki.at/ Adr.: Davidgasse 76-80/14/10, 1100 Wien, Austria ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Storm water control works?
There is 1200 uses of man_made=pumping_station, so is this something worht documenting as in use and adding to the man made wiki page? Yes. I have mapped many of them here in Northern Italy, but had not noticed that the tagging is not documented in the wiki. They are called Idrovora and vary considerably in size. There are hundreds of them around here. Many are still not mapped. See this Italian Wikipedia article: https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idrovora A quick search brings up about 50 around here: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/auC Volker (Padova, Italy) ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] oil binding agent?
The term (at least one of the terms) used in the US is oil absorbent For example: http://www.autozone.com/shop-and-garage-tools/oil-absorbent/moltan-33-lbs-granular-oil-grease-water-and-coolant-absorbent/690875_0_0/ I have seen it used in garages and auto repair shops, but never stored along forest tracks. Mike On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 6:23 AM, Friedrich Volkmann b...@volki.at wrote: I am looking for the English term for granulate that is made to absorb oil that was spilled due to a leak or a vehicle accident and threatens ground water. The granulate is often stored in boxes along forest tracks in water protection areas. In Austria, the boxes are labelled ÖLBINDEMITTEL, which is the German word for the substance. Dictionaries return oilbinder, oil binder, oil binding agent and oil absorbent, but some of them seem to be used for cooking, which is not what I mean. In any case, this certainly belongs to the emergency=* key, e.g. emergency=oil_binding_agent. But amenity=* might also be ok. -- Friedrich K. Volkmann http://www.volki.at/ Adr.: Davidgasse 76-80/14/10, 1100 Wien, Austria ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Storm water control works?
There is 1200 uses of man_made=pumping_station, so is this something worht documenting as in use and adding to the man made wiki page? Javbw? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 18, 2015, at 8:11 PM, johnw jo...@mac.com wrote: there are a lot of “works” that are related to control stormwater runoff / flooding control stations (more than just a valve on a levee), that close / monitor the water outflow/inflow that is normally open for rice farming/storm runoff, and closes for extreme weather events, but it seems to be more than just a valve on a levee, as there are hundreds of thousands of those already - these are some kind of facility that go with that object. I would be tempted to tag them with man_made=water_works, but it looks like that it’s only for drinking water. this is storm / flood control. Is there some other man_made=* for stormwater control works (beyond levees), or a modifier key for man_made=water_works? The thing I’m working with is called a drainage station or a pumping station for wastewater control ( 排水機場 ) . In one larger city here, (according to a city PDF http://www.city.narita.chiba.jp/DAT/000103890.pdf page 3 [115]) there are 50 of these stations there alone. There are probably several thousand of these around Japan, and lots of other places built up that deal with flooding. https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/35.80825/140.31914 Any suggestions beyond an industrial landuse? Maybe this abandoned proposal? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Pumping_Station This area gets a ton of water. https://www.flickr.com/photos/javbw/11091220855/in/album-72157638113676925/ Javbw ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Storm water control works?
There is talk on the discussion page about tagging what it is pumping (drinking water, sewage, raw water, etc) so i think we should add the tag for is the the pipeline umm.. Medium? usage? Ill have to check what is the documented method for tagging what a pipe is carrying, and make sure there is a value that corresponds to storm/rain/flood water of some kind to go with these pumps. Javbw On Jul 18, 2015, at 10:04 PM, Volker Schmidt vosc...@gmail.com wrote: There is 1200 uses of man_made=pumping_station, so is this something worht documenting as in use and adding to the man made wiki page? Yes. I have mapped many of them here in Northern Italy, but had not noticed that the tagging is not documented in the wiki. They are called Idrovora and vary considerably in size. There are hundreds of them around here. Many are still not mapped. See this Italian Wikipedia article: https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idrovora A quick search brings up about 50 around here: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/auC Volker (Padova, Italy) ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Storm water control works?
What I was talking about On Jul 19, 2015, at 10:03 AM, John Willis jo...@mac.com wrote: operated valve at the top of the levee to close it, Most of the ones I find are on a little pier like thing. I guess the smaller ones were for dam water level adjustment on small dams. large pier that sticks out into the dry riverbed, https://www.google.com/maps/@36.3854267,139.3443196,52m/data=!3m1!1e3 https://www.google.com/maps/@36.3854267,139.3443196,52m/data=!3m1!1e3 https://www.google.com/maps/@36.374736,139.369481,3a,75y,178.75h,85.01t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfkNRMnj47r5GbqipdNQMQw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 https://www.google.com/maps/@36.374736,139.369481,3a,75y,178.75h,85.01t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfkNRMnj47r5GbqipdNQMQw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 https://www.google.com/maps/@36.424005,139.351549,3a,16y,14.18h,89.47t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sp893AB1Dzl3lPjins-zw7Q!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3Dp893AB1Dzl3lPjins-zw7Q%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D100%26h%3D80%26yaw%3D86.119034%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656 https://www.google.com/maps/@36.424005,139.351549,3a,16y,14.18h,89.47t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sp893AB1Dzl3lPjins-zw7Q!2e0!6s//geo1.ggpht.com/cbk?panoid=p893AB1Dzl3lPjins-zw7Qoutput=thumbnailcb_client=maps_sv.tactile.gpsthumb=2w=100h=80yaw=86.119034pitch=0!7i13312!8i6656 This is beyond the massive tsunami gates that span whole rivers in Japan - 15m tall gates that close to block a tsunami/typhoon surge at the bay outlet. https://www.google.com/maps/@39.5853076,141.9463357,399m/data=!3m1!1e3 https://www.google.com/maps/@39.5853076,141.9463357,399m/data=!3m1!1e3 Several of them were washed away to their foundations by the last tsunami. https://www.google.com/maps/@38.715219,141.522999,3a,16.1y,310.36h,88.59t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sq50Y6fM0V2SPuG56aqj7gA!2e0!3e5!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1 https://www.google.com/maps/@38.715219,141.522999,3a,16.1y,310.36h,88.59t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sq50Y6fM0V2SPuG56aqj7gA!2e0!3e5!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1 Damaged one Javbw___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Storm water control works?
Question on storm drain tagging - Most of the rivers here have storm levees to hold back the typhoon runoff (like right now in Kyoto) - and *every* single tiny stream and many drains from rice farming (drains are streams streams are drains when everything goes through a field) go into a culvert through the levee. The smaller ones have a hand operated valve at the top of the levee to close it, but the larger ones for a large stream/ tiny river have a large pier that sticks out into the dry riverbed, with electric valves that close, at the end of the pier, sometimes with a roof or building protecting them. The valves are deep under the riverbed (as opposed to in the levee) and let the water join the river mid-stream when the river is high. This is beyond the massive tsunami gates that span whole rivers in Japan - 15m tall gates that close to block a tsunami/typhoon surge at the bay outlet. Several of them were washed away to their foundations by the last tsunami. Anyways - should we consider making a flood or storm surge control key? Or is this all under waterway somewhere? Javbw. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 19, 2015, at 7:48 AM, Volker Schmidt vosc...@gmail.com wrote: When I do more detailed mapping, I actually show the pipes that the water flows through. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Storm water control works?
Shouldn't be drainage? Perhaps flood_water would be a good choice Javbw Sent from my iPhone On Jul 19, 2015, at 7:48 AM, Volker Schmidt vosc...@gmail.com wrote: Drain is missing ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
