Re: [Tails-dev] Why Tails partition is non-deterministic?
Hi, drwhax: sexual attention. It is very hurtful to have my intentions decided for me ): If the snip of code wasn't enough context: I am a fan of dd hacks (: And as was said to emmapeel privately, love is for everybody XD I love you, too. Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
Re: [Tails-dev] Why Tails partition is non-deterministic?
Hi, Joanna Rutkowska: dd if=/dev/sda1 | sha1sum I love you XD Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
Re: [Tails-dev] tails is very big file,split it
Hi, بهمن علیزاده: please SPLIT [Tails] Torrents come in many pieces already, if that is an option for you. https://tails.boum.org/torrents/files/tails-i386-2.4.torrent or https://tails.boum.org/torrents/files/tails-i386-2.5.torrent Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
Re: [Tails-dev] Preparing the next monthly report
Hi, sajolida: *you* Me! Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
Re: [Tails-dev] TAILS camouflage
Hi, Christian Medel: what happened to camouflage It's there, you just can't see it ;) Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
Re: [Tails-dev] Filling remaining space on DVDR from /dev/random
Hi, Anonymous: I would like to fill remaining space on DVDR from /dev/random after I have burned the Tails 2.4 ISO. It seems that this is possible but with some limitations. Take a look at: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/disc-burning-faq#1TC=windows-7 Specifically: 'Do I need to close the disc session or finalize my disc when I'm done burning?' It would be cool to know more about your use case. Copy tails...@boum.org, too, if you reply with some fun usability needs (: Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
Re: [Tails-dev] Elvis, Cantado & Contado
produção: Clique neste link para ser removido: http://the-best-of-all.com.br/unsubscribe.. sajolida: Done that. But now we wont hear about future fake Elvis events ): Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
Re: [Tails-dev] Making Tails 2.4 more accessible
Hi, Nathan Hale: It would be nice if the next Tails were distributed more like the previous versions This is true and would make for a wonderful experience (: There's a discussion on USENET I will try to find it (: u: meantime: https://tails.boum.org/install/download. Forced compliance by threat of the clearnet; this is broken ): Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
Re: [Tails-dev] intrigeri vs. Tails Redmine
Hi, intrigeri: whenever you want me to read something or need my input, please assign the ticket to me and set "QA Check" to "Info Needed". Ack. Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
Re: [Tails-dev] Install & soft
Hi, leos...@i2pmail.org: install procedure If both options are available, burning a DVD seems easiest. If one option is available, it is increasingly not DVD. sajolida: Macs are a [USB] nightmare Are these issues documented anywhere? I have access to a library with Macs from many years and have had no issues with dd or DVD installed Tails. Windows is a different story ): Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
Re: [Tails-dev] i2p-0.9.25~Tails-2.3
Hi, pr0ng: Yay for Tails and i2p! Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
Re: [Tails-dev] Physical Ethernet Adapter
Hi, Austin English: try 1.8.2 and see if it works It did not. User error (: Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] Detecting hidden partitions?
Hi, > > intrigeri: > the message that "plugging one's Tails > device in an untrusted OS is dangerous" > I respect this intention but struggle to see how the trust verification functions when equipped with only a warning; trust is hard to determine, especially up front, even if you "own" the machine. > > good enough > Don't let me bottleneck any development with philos. > > what problem these proposals > are tackling? > The same as this: > > detecting the presence of .DS_Store > files and friends > i.e., trusting the device. A use case could be: I see occupied bits on a USB stick I intend to use as a Tails device; I am concerned. I would like to recover this space but am unsure if reformatting is effective; it turns out extended partitions can go untouched during reformatting. I reformat. I still see the occupied bits; I am further concerned, specifically that my device has been pwnd by a powerful adversary. I wish there was a tool for this. - - - There is but should Tails provide the same service; probably not. However, if there is a potential Tails device integrity check tool, it could provide a complete service and visualize the partition table in some way; text is plenty. No worries (: Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] Detecting hidden partitions?
Hi, intrigeri: Tails system partition is enough Will you explain a bit more about this? intrigeri: whose type is "Hidden W95 FAT32" It seems that any format type is optional. is it any broader? It could check the MBR partition table for any occupied bits. But the specific thought was to check for extended partition entries. [Tangential Thought]: We could also check and flip the RMB bit for supporting UFD controllers, making the USB stick usable for Tails - Ignore this (: Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] Tails htpdate - why use time information from neutral and foe pools?
Hi, intrigeri: I believe my complex design is better. You believe your simple design is better. Maybe a more preferable design is the one where the user sets the time manually within the allotted tolerance, e.g., UTC+/-30min. I couldn't locate an accurate tolerance other than the major estimate of 30min. I would imagine it is preferred to be accurate to the millisecond. Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] NSA
Hi, sam pollina: the NSA Is hiring (: https://www.nsa.gov/careers/ https://www.nsa.gov/ia/academic_outreach/student_opportunities/ The only real way to find out. Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] User Profiles
Hi, intrigeri: this one instead: https://labs.riseup.net/code/issues/11162 Yes. I sure dropped the ball on that; rushing /: I must remember to slow down if I want to go fast. Thanks!! Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] User Profiles
Hi, Copying tails-dev once for the record. I filled out some of the ticket [0] and linked to it from the blueprint [1]. It feels like the blueprint should contain the personas and the ticket should contain the development structure and logic behind the personas. I will continue to add stuff once I re-sift through everything we have so far. In the meantime, let's add and subtract from the list of User Profile elements to get started: - Name - Age - Gender - Cultural Background - Lifestyle Preference - Family Status - Social Status - Personal Network - Public Network - Education - Occupation - Income - Geographic Location - Geographic Description - Life Motivation - Political Opinions - Cultural Opinions - Social Opinions - Behavioral Values - Activities - Diet - Attire - Personal Accessories - Home Products - Furniture - Transportation - Services - Devices - Software - Internet Use Wordlife, Spencer [0]: https://labs.riseup.net/code/issues/10471#change-51392 [1]: https://tails.boum.org/blueprint/personas/ ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] Hacking Team looking at Tails
Hi, > > intrigeri: > assuming non malicious storage > hardware > The case presumes malicious software and/or hardware, or at least considers the uncertainty. I think most people can, and will, see the storage capacity beforehand. However, the firmware takes up space but, to most people, it is unknown exactly how much. > > udisks2 creates a new partition table > So, is reformatting re(pre)dundant? Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] Physical Ethernet Adapter
Hi, > > intrigeri: > We have to draw the line somewhere > Word. > > we're on the same page in the end :) > Yep (: Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] Adding KeepassX to Tails Startup; can it be done!
Hi, > > m...@riseup.net: > Keepassx to open the persistent > [storage]. > > > 1 character password > Regarding implementation, I am unsure of the security implications of doing so, though others will know more. Regarding usability, this seems like a good idea. Passcharacter Password Passphrase Passstory I keep my 10,000 character passstory on asoftkeychain, too, and would love to use it for Persistent Encrypted Storage (: Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] Physical Ethernet Adapter
Hi, sajolida: That's pretty much out-of-scope for our project. I am not sure what you mean. It seems that ensuring the 'Incognito' experience functions as intended is within scope. We rely on whatever is available in the Linux kernel and Debian firmware packages, so the work should be done there and it will work in Tails. Okay. I agree that it is to be expected that drivers and whatnot are included upstream. No worries. Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] Hacking Team looking at Tails
Hi, Austin English: filed https://labs.riseup.net/code/issues/11137 This is a very challenging problem. There are two cases that come to mind. 1. The device may become compromised before becoming a Tails device. In this case, the files/partitions are either hidden or protected and are not removed during reformatting. This is best addressed during the creation of a new Tails device. 2. The device may become compromised after becoming a Tails device. In this case, the files/partitions, which may be hidden or protected, are not removed after shutdown. This is best addressed during either the startup or shutdown processes of a living Tails device. sajolida: not about detecting malware but about training users .. good practices So, detecting/educating *that* but not *what*. This seems reasonable, as *what* would need blacklists, trust models, and so on. Also, given the actual (intended/expected) function of the hidden attribute files, e.g., preserving user settings, it seems that there are no benefits of having these, or any other, files on a Tails device. Don't plug your Tails in an untrusted OS I do not think this is an achievable model to promote because: - Trust is like STDIN; can be anything to anyone. - There seem to be no machines or systems that can have the guarantee that is referred to when we say 'Trust'. reinstalling is the only solution .. installing from the same untrusted OS really won't be. And educating (: How can Tails: - Inform of this device protection feature and what it does? - Detect the existence of unwanted files. - Disclose what the files are and where they were located in the file system? - Provide a resolution to remove the files and restore the devices integrity. - Guarantee the files removed are now gone and will not come back, or recommend a behavior model that will limit the possibility of files (re)appearing? Austin English: help for the ux portion I would be more than happy to put the files together or think through this some more. Feel free to send anything my way; can be as rough or polished as you got it. if detected, have the greeter pop up some big red warning box. This warning could replace the greeter. This warning might want to be ignored. discussed on tails-ux Copied for migration if needed. Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] Hacking Team looking at Tails
Hi, Austin English: write a wrapper for the greeter to detect if those files are present. It could also detect hidden partitions, correct? Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] Physical Ethernet Adapter
Hi, Spencer: Does Tails natively support external internet adapters? intrigeri: Yes, most of them (USB ones). Is this limited to either ethernet or wifi? Some more questions: How is Tails planning on addressing the lack of built-in ethernet ports, now and in the near future? I ask because I am working on the internet experience, as it relates to the startup flow. Given the ever increasing lack of ethernet ports on devices, and the increasing use of Tails as a security distribution, it seems valuable to investigate support for ethernet adapters and external wireless cards, PCI, USB, Thunderbolt, and so on. What do you think? Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] Notes of the contributor-meeting-20160203
Hi, sajolida: not tracked explicitly anywhere at the moment. No worries (: Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] Hacking Team looking at Tails
Hi, intrigeri: don't keep a record never looked deeper than the root directory No worries (: Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] Hacking Team looking at Tails
Hi, > > intrigeri: > https://labs.riseup.net/code/issues/11102 > >> >> Snip from the ticket: >> "Tails USB sticks that have "hidden" >> files that indicate they have been >> plugged into Windows or OSX >> machines" >> Are these the typical Thumbs.db & .DS_Store files, or are there others? Where are they located, in some/all folders, at top of the package directory, or somewhere outside of Tails? Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] Physical Ethernet Adapter
Hi, > > intrigeri: > I'm sorry but there's nothing we can do > with this little info. > Word. > > bug report > No need (: > > usage questions. > It's a development question. I figured there was documentation; searched crickets. My apologies. Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] Physical Ethernet Adapter
Hi, Trying to use ethernet adapter on device with no ethernet port. Ethernet is supported on 2.0, it seems, with a device that has an ethernet port. Ethernet adapter is for linux kernel. Tried, what I understood, from #10522 and #9012 but didn't get very far. Any thoughts? Does Tails detect and load the respective driver only when ethernet is detected during boot? Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] Notes of the contributor-meeting-20160203
Hi, Meeting Notes: segfault wants to rethink the installation and upgrade process Where is this being tracked? I would like to follow along if permitted (: Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] [Tails - Feature #5991] Include BitTorrent software
Hi, sajolida: join forces and coordinate on #9563 I closed #5991: Include BitTorrent Software, since #9563 addresses the issue. Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] intrigeri vs. Tails Redmine
Hi, > > sajolida: > being responsible for tracking "End-user > documentation" and "Website" tickets > Sounds like the pie needs divided up; a need for a project (ticket) manager. Feel free to assign anything to me if you think I can help with, or learn from, it. Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] stats on upgrade time
Hi, intrigeri: our design doc Thanks (: Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] stats on upgrade time
Hi, sajolida: You cannot disable the security check for open security issues or upgrades. Not from within Tails? Should I roll my own and adjust the relevant package content beforehand? it's worth spending time on I agree d: Knowledge provides value. I must know what is being requested, sent, how, and why. Is there documentation on this [I couldn't quickly find any] or should I capture a VM session? create a ticket. Maybe. Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] Migrate Tail's browser AdBlock Plus to uBlock Origin
Hi, random_u...@airpost.net: the arguments against including an ad-blocker Are not thought out or are intentional for reasons not relevant to security/anonymity. best interests Would lead us to a blocker at the exits, as all of the data still gets sent by the destination and increases latency. indistinguishable fingerprints Seems limited and fights against the real traffic patterns of the internet. Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] Cannot install Tor Browser in Tails 2.0 build
Hi, ceyx: some minor customizations (i.e., some files in /etc/skel/). Will you share some details about your use case as it pertains to these customizations? This will help with usability (: Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] Where are the developers? I thought this was supposed to be a support list
Hi, > > vcc...@sigaint.org: > tails subreddit, people are having > problems > If it helps, I have been tracking the reddit posts for future UX efforts. Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] stats on upgrade time
Hi, > > sajolida: > HTTP requests made on UDFs > (upgrade description files) > How can one prevent participation in this, in addition to not connecting to the internet? Where is the relevant file located and can it be removed or altered? Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] Firmware
Hi, > > astro...@sigaint.org: > I have Intel's Chipsec Linux Driver > working for Tails 1.8.2. > > I'll be posting the code after some > cleanup. > This sounds great! > > Is there an appropriate vector to share > this work with the community? > Probably just posting here. Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] Tor Browser 5.5 is ready for testing
Hi, Spencer: "No fonts can be relied upon in every linux flavor. " Is this the reason? I am confident that this is the reason (: Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] Requirements for a Pidgin replacement
Hi, Thanks for sharing this! sajolida: the list of properties is interesting. Great list. Communication tools like Trello and Slack are used by Microsoft and the like to make communication tools. Though their employees have zero privacy concerns (: Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] [Tails - Bug #10990] Redesign 'Help' Button
Hi, Issue #10990 has been reported Because I deleted this like a bozo trying to fix an image link that was broken. Don't mind me (: Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] Tor Browser 5.5 is ready for testing
Hi, Thanks for all of the great work, especially the research into font discrepancies! > > Georg Koppen: > * Bug 16672: Don't use font whitelisting > for Linux users > "No fonts can be relied upon in every linux flavor. " Is this the reason? Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] About the download and verification of test images
Hi, sajolida: https://tails.boum.org/install Thanks (: I don't know :) Some months at least. Word. https://git-tails.immerda.ch/tails/commit/?h=web/9323-release-ia&id=e66558a7fd94715dd2d4a1d4638eca184898da38 Thanks (: I meant through a direct link and the same download button. Then yes, please (: Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] About the download and verification of test images
Hi, I follow this loosely, so forgive redundancies. sajolida: As part of installation assistant ... we need to decide > how to advertise the download and verification of test ISO images Though I may find by looking, will you point to what this (newer version) currently looks like, or where I can find parts and assemble? we were using buttons to the direct download It is a nice weight during quickscroll :) for the time being ... remove the old instructions for OpenPGP verification from the website. For how long? e66558a Where is this? shall we point people to: https://archive.torproject.org/ when downloading these? Please, no. The archive is difficult to understand. Wordlife Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] Feature #5301 - Clone or Backup Persistent Volume
Hi, Emma Peel (in copy) could be interested as she's been giving a workshop on Tails backups last week and 32C3. I found this [0] but no record of anything here [1]. Are there any recordings of this workshop, or workshops in general, from this event? Wordlife, Spencer [0]: https://events.ccc.de/congress/2015/wiki/Session:Tails_backup [1]: https://events.ccc.de/congress/2015/Fahrplan/schedule/0.html ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] Icedove security updates / Tails release schedule
Hi, intrigeri: I think our design doc has lots of info about this kind of things, that should answer the first batch of questions: https://tails.boum.org/contribute/design/ Some bits are probably unclear, so feel free to ask. Keep in mind that these docs are meant for a technical audience. Awesome; thanks! Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] Support of "go get" command
Hi, sycamore one: and/or shell scripts like Coy is using I wish there were a simple resolution to this, since hunting down software is a pain, especially given the nuances of a Tails system; example: svn. A directory with every OS and the relevant install instructions seems like the only option, though maintaining that would be difficult, or require a clever bot. Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] Icedove security updates / Tails release schedule
Hi, intrigeri: The "security check" mechanism was drafted in February, 2010. The Upgrader took over some of its functionality in Tails 0.22.1, almost two years ago now :) Is there documentation on these so I can read and minimize questions? Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] Icedove security updates / Tails release schedule
Hi, u: Tails contains a mechanism that, at boot time, executes a check for upgrades. This could be used to display warnings if there is indeed a security issue, and has been used for this in the past. What version can this functionality be found in? Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] Icedove security updates / Tails release schedule
Hi, intrigeri: Let's keep in mind that the "security updates are delayed a bit" problem is neither news here, nor specific to Icedove. sajolida: To put it differently, Firefox is the only software we ship that is synchronized with our release schedule :) Understood. Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] Icedove security updates / Tails release schedule
Hi, Dean Pierce: run some sort of software update at boot? ..visible indicator This ,and other similar things, would be a nice experience that establishes and enforces trust. I wonder what the technical implications are. trying to avoid them Prolongs the inevitable. Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] Icedove security updates / Tails release schedule
Hi, u: TL;DR: Thunderbird is not always released at the same time as FF, This implies that we have to choose between a) delay Tails releases to get the new Icedove; or b) [Risk security by] sticking to the current Firefox release schedule every 6 weeks. With all due respect to Mozilla devs and all those here involved in making the decision to migrate to Icedove, this seems like quite the effort for un(der)usable and bloated software, especially given the severity of the options above. None of these are desired experiences :( Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] Tails Hardware
Hi, Jurre van Bergen: That exists already: http://libreboot.org/docs/install/x200_external.html For other hardware: http://libreboot.org/docs/install/index.html Thank you! Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] [Tails - Feature #5991] Include BitTorrent software
Hi, str4d: Feel free to email me off-list with any questions you might have :) Word; will do. Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] Call for testing new tools and instructions to get started with Tails
Hi, sajolida: DVD drives are disappearing from laptops The external ones don't work very well, either; drivers, updates, and so on; requires quite the intervention. Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] Tails Hardware
Hi, a3: Personally, with my Lenovo X200, I have removed the BIOS from the manufacturer... Will you make step-by-step instructions available for others? Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] OFTC Blocks Tor [was: Tails contributors meeting: Sunday January 03]
Hi, sajolida: irc.oftc.net is blocking Tor lately. For the record: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Spencer: ERROR: Anonymous TOR usage is unavailable OFTC: Hello, I have a feeling that this might need to be directed to another IRC network; I think our message reads along the lines of "no more connections are accepted from this IP" or something a lot less useful than that error message. OFTC does occasionally need to turn off new Tor connections due to abuse, we're hoping to have a solution in place eventually that reduces how often we need to disable Tor network-wide. In the meantime, you'll just have to keep retrying periodically to see if new connections are allowed or not. Spencer: See attached. [scrubbed] OFTC: I was wrong about this; this error message does in fact come from OFTC when trying to use our web irc service over Tor; I hadn't realized that it has a different error message from more conventional IRC clients. it seems as if OFTC has attached something ... maybe to a file that isn't replaced during updates We do turn Tor off occasionally when it's under abuse but the specific web irc interface does have that error message. We're currently testing an interface to allow authenticated Tor users to connect even when we disallow new Tor connections in general. Feel free to create channels as you wish, keeping in mind that we're not interested in hosting illegal activities, software-related or not. What is a "new" connection defined as? ] Our Tor blocking is enforced entirely at connect time; existing connections aren't disconnected when we block Tor, though the mechanism to remove abusers sometimes results in disconnecting unrelated Tor users. There must be something I can look for in some captures to help resolve this. Probably the best way forward is to run a local irc client such as weechat, quassel, irssi, etc. I don't know if the web gateway will be open for anonymous Tor users or not. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - I never inquired as to what an "authenticated Tor user" is. Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] Your 2016 Invitation To Beta Switch [Fun Spam]
Hi, Seu: Today I'm going to reveal the hidden research that explains why we struggle with stubborn fat... The secret is that sugar is stored as fat and all you need to do to get rid of it is eat less sugar; I'm looking at you bread and pasta! Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] [Tails - Feature #5991] Include BitTorrent software
Hi, Spencer: Though I might not get around to this for a week or two, or three :) Or more. In progress, though. Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] Tails Hardware
Hi, Michael English: Tails should have a page on the website dedicated to recommended computer hardware. intrigeri: I'd be glad to see a team commit to set up _and maintain_ such a page :) USB Sticks would be a reasonable start. Also, major computer manufacturers are known to have BIOS level backdoors which renders Tails security useless. Smaller computer manufacturers on the above list would be less likely to violate users' security and privacy on a hardware level. there are such "backdoors" in Intel ME (present in any recent Intel CPU, cannot be disabled in practice), and most computer manufacturers use firmware (BIOS) provided by very few vendors Maybe a DIY BIOS how-to would be a more reasonable start, though quite out of scope of the documentation, maybe. Similar things have been touched on [0]. Wordlife, Spencer [0]: https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/2015-November/039573.html ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] Severe security flaws found.
Hi, Matthew Bone: I have found various security flaws with Tails...concerns the BIOS...compromising Tails Any follow up to this ? Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] Pond in Tails
Hi, Spencer: Pond seems underusable given the required dependencies and current condition. Would including it [in Tails] mean these things have been resolved? I will take that as a no :) Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] screen locker tutorial
Hi, intrigeri: It goes away at least with: a slide, typing any printable key, and typing the "ESC" key (and maybe more types of action, I didn't check).> Thanks! Use to using the trackpad/pointer I guess; spacebar it is :) Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] Fwd: Whonix Connection Wizard / Bridge Wizard / Tor Launcher Clone
Hi, intrigeri: Sorry for the noise.. ...will try to remember not to forward Whonix -related bits here in the future. Please keep sharing cool stuff, at least to emphasize importance that others might miss :) Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] screen locker tutorial
Hi, sajolida: If gnome-screensaver remains in Tails Jessie, are we OK with the current UX for people with no password (blanking the screen but not locking it)? intrigeri: I'd rather disable it but I can live with it. See earlier discussion on this topic: https://labs.riseup.net/code/issues/10403#note-3 If this is the screen with the clock that slides away, then it could go since it isn't clear how it functions without a touchscreen :( If this same screen is considered a screensaver and can be customized, then people will not associate it with any level of security, making its somewhat usable functionality okay :) However, having a default passphrase is difficult to guess at, though it seems all are against having that. Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] [Tails - Feature #5991] Include BitTorrent software
Hi, sajolida: It's great if you want to work on this yourself ... send me all this information and I'll help you structure the documentation. Word. You're the best! Though I might not get around to this for a week or two, or three :) Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] firefox -allow-remote (what does it do?)
Hi, Anonymous: what is the "-allow-remote" value mean? "In the TBB 4.5 they removed support for passing -allow-remote in anyway." why in Tails 1.7 does it remain and what exactly does it do? Any luck? the few websites where it's mentioned do not do a good job of explaining this... If you find a place documenting this or other relevant packages, scripts, and so on, please share. Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] [Tails - Feature #5991] Include BitTorrent software
Hi, Following up. I'm in favor of documenting how to use Torrent over I2P How should this move forward? Reading the last message I think I assigned it to you without asking; my bad :) I can figure out how to document this but I thought I should ask first: should I be the one to document this? Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] stats on upgrade time
Hi, Adam Burns: Uniquely identify each Tails image to assess and profile their usage frequencies as per above? I think that is called spying :) Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] Option to disable mouse clicks with touchpad in Tails Greeter
Hi, Copying -ux for historical reasons. And maybe moving there, too. Michael English: with Tails ... mouse clicks with touchpad are enabled by default and there is no easy way to turn it off before starting the OS. Hardware Controls are important :) u: Mouse clicks with the touchpad are not disabled in Debian by default afaik. I am in favour of having mouseclicks with the touchpad enabled, as the contrary seems even more confusing. Disabled or not, having more control before starting Tails is a good experience. We will keep this in mind when working through the startup flow [0]. Wordlife, Spencer [0]: https://tails.boum.org/blueprint/network_connection ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] Release versioning
Hi, intrigeri: B. Switch to "even for major releases / odd for minor ones", call the first Tails/Jessie release 2.0 2.0 seems major to me :) Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] Testing the ISO Verification Extension
Hi, Giorgio Maone: As soon as it's on AMO it's gonna be signed by Mozilla. Also, in a near future, installing extensions which have not been signed by Mozilla will automatically fail. Finally, if we want hash-based verification right now, rather than providing a raw link, we can use Firefox's proprietary window.InstallTrigger method, like this: InstallTrigger.install( "Download and Verify Extension 0.2.6": { URL: "dave.xpi", Hash: "sha256:c750017b572ebc6417324196f216a13216e5f65de6abd8b1a5a1ce07618ccfdc" } ); Gangster. Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] Testing the ISO Verification Extension
Hi, sajolida: You can see it live on https://tails.boum.org/install/download. Is there a way to verify the extension? Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] Pond in Tails
Hi, Jacob Appelbaum: For many years, Tor was an experiment... Ricochet is also an experiment and lots of Tails is in a similar state, no? Yeah but supporting 'Go' doesn't seem like a good idea in general. u: If you have persistence enabled, you can however install it individually in Tails. The SU command 'sudo apt-get install pond' does not work, of course :) It seems like it would be good to include it by default. Pond seems underusable given the required dependencies and current condition. Would including it mean these things have been resolved? Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] [Tails - Feature #5991] Include BitTorrent software
Hey, sajolida: Based on my limited understanding of the topic, I think that the way to go would be to document how to do Torrent over I2P. Maybe. IP Configuration and added steps are somewhat of a blocker, or at least reduce the smoothness of the experience. Some people started working on this a while ago task right now: https://labs.riseup.net/code/issues/9563. Thanks for this link :) Did you check our I2P documentation. I did. The instructions [0] may provide extra benefit if linked to from the 'Design' section of [1] and directly from the BitTorrent section [2] on the FAQ. I'm in favor of documenting how to use Torrent over I2P, either in the I2P page, in a subpage, or in the advanced topics section. Up to you since you know this :) Documentation is super important here given the context. Let me know if you would like me to assist. Wordlife, Spencer [0]: https://tails.boum.org/doc/anonymous_internet/i2p/ [1]: https://tails.boum.org/contribute/design/I2P/ [2]: https://tails.boum.org/support/faq/index.en.html#index29h2 ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] [Tails - Feature #5991] Include BitTorrent software
Hi, str4d: If I2P is enabled The Design section at https://tails.boum.org/contribute/design/I2P/ points out some I2P issues. A new question is, are these concerns relevant to the Tor Network as well? If so, then maybe there can be a "Torrent over I2P :)" consensus based on the Tor Project's preference to not support torrenting. adding the i2p flag to the boot parameters The Tails documentation on this is not clear to me. Also, the links https://tails.boum.org/geti2p.net and http://127.0.0.1:7657/i2psnark do not load :( [native application] only usable with I2P Easy, and I think maybe a good way to go. Something less usefully bloated than Vuze might be more suitable...the I2P documentation has some good alternatives. Perhaps something to this effect could be added to the documentation? sajolida, what do you think? Side note: I2P supports UDP traffic, but only really for apps that are built with I2P support (either native Java, or via the SAM API). Both I2PSnark and Vuze have DHT support, and IIRC there is a proposal for implementing uTP. We do also have a SOCKS tunnel that we haven't finished adding UDP support to, because of a lack of dev time/funds/incentive... I2P torrent clients (and apps in general) use a single Destination, so usually only have two or three tunnels built at any one time. This can be manually increased up to a maximum of 16, although six is usually sufficient to see a decent speed increase. Good to know :) Tails defaults to hidden mode; then again, the number of people using Tails for I2P torrenting would probably be low, compared to the number of Vuze nodes (which currently are estimated to make up about 30-40% of the I2P network). If people see Tails and I2P as a gateway to torrenting their long-lost Where's Wally VHS, that could change. Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] [Tails - Feature #5991] Include BitTorrent software
Hi, Tails should either include BitTorrent software, explain how to safely use user installed BitTorrent software, or document the technical limitations behind not doing so. The purpose of this thread is to discuss and conclude the matter of including/supporting BitTorrent in some way in Tails. This [0] is what we currently say. This [1] is the existing ticket. Research Thus Far (If there is more please include) --- Tor Project Blog Post: https://blog.torproject.org/blog/bittorrent-over-tor-isnt-good-idea Feedback from a user: I tried "apt-get install ctorrent" followed by "torify ctorrent torrentfile.torrent" while monitoring all communication with Wireshark. While ctorrent always generate new unique peer and key IDs each time the torrent is started, always report the same port, and always report IP=0.0.0.0, do not attempt to discover external ip, and no proxy bypasses happens, I concluded it may be safe to use. Besides that UDP does not work at all over Tor (DHT, uTP, UDP trackers etc...), which of course reduce the usefulness of a BitTorrent client in Tails, there is one real major problem I can see: Each connection to a peer is going through its own Tor circuit. This means Tor ends up building about 100 circuits, using about half of them at any time. It also means it easily reach download speeds of 3 megabyte/second. One basically never get over 150 kilobytes/second through one single circuit (e.g. http downloads), so this DOES put a lot of load on the Tor network. Proposed solution would be to get all connections for the same torrent through the same circuit. What To Do --- - Talk about the protocol (What are the issues with UDP [2], TCP, extensions, and so on?) - Talk about the circuits/load (Can connections be funneled through less circuits and/or be less of a burden?) - Talk about pre/post packaging (Will we include BitTorrent software in Tails?) If this sounds good, let's do it :) Wordlife, Spencer [0]: https://tails.boum.org/support/faq/index.en.html#index29h2 [1]: https://labs.riseup.net/code/issues/5991 [2]: https://www.usenix.org/conference/woot15/workshop-program/presentation/p2p-file-sharing-hell-exploiting-bittorrent ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] Help needed with screenshots of Mac boot menu with Tails
Hi, sajolida: Thanks a lot for working on this, you saved me a bunch of headache! No worries; I happened to be in a room full of Macs that day :) Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] Releasing automated tests
Hi, anonym: Neat! That's is a very useful Git feature. Thanks for letting me know about it! Then I think we can combine the "..." operator with another fancy Git feature I recently found, namely Git pathspec "magic signatures". So we could do: BASE_BRANCH_DIFF="$(git diff $base_branch...$commit -- \ '*' \ ':!/wiki' \ ':!/ikiwiki.setup' \ ':!/ikiwiki-cgi.setup')" if [ -z "${BASE_BRANCH_DIFF}" ]; then CUCUMBER_ARGS="${CUCUMBER_ARGS} --tag @doc" fi where $commit is the commit we test, before merging the base branch locally. Interesting! I don't understand this at all! Don't mind me :) Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] Help needed with screenshots of Mac boot menu with Tails
Hi, sajolida: I see that you changed the background from gray to black. Was this on purpose? Within the current Mac Boot ROM version (2015-001) [0], there are two background colors: - Gray = Old (Pre Mavericks/Yosemite) - Black = New (Post Mavericks/Yosemite) I am unable to confirm anything more specific :( It is up to you which you will use but they are both correct. Old = Tested on: - Old = MacBookPro9,2 - New = MacBookPro11,3 Wordlife, Spencer [0]: https://support.apple.com/kb/DL1823 ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] Help needed with screenshots of Mac boot menu with Tails
Hi, intrigeri wrote: Hi, [shall we go on cross-posting forever, or?] I will keep this in dev since you seem to like reading this kind of stuff :) Do you need tests on another Mac? All should perform the same based on their Boot ROM Version; here[0] is a list. An OSXpert, or someone with access every Boot ROM Version, would need to fully confirm the subtle differences in each. [0]: https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT201518 --- sajolida: Do you confirm that the DVD appears with a hard disk icon on I cannot. The disk icon image is what shows :( Here [1] :) Does it make any difference if the USB Stick is installed using the command line? Nope. Tail 1.6 prompts the same screen and icon set on startup from USB Sticks that have Tails cloned via both the Tails Installer and Bash. Direct USB Stick install might differ, but maybe not since I think the startup icons are driven by the firmware on whatever device is in question. Well, now I'm wondering ... No worries. Although Cheetah, Panther, Leopard, and Lion introduce major graphic updates, it seems that there are only two major startup screens Mac users will be presented with today: - One for Yosemite & El Capitan. - One for Lion to Mavericks. The differences here are icons and background colors; minor enough that it isn't confusing (unless they have the bug that shows a ghost volume, but an update would resolve that). We could do a user driven image swap on the Mac instructions for higher accuracy. Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] Help needed with screenshots of Mac boot menu with Tails
Hi, Spencer: [Something close to correct] Actually, here[0] is the DVD startup screen, and here[1] is the USB Stick startup screen. These are a hybrid of Yosemite, El Capitan, and whatever came on the 2009 macs in this library (depreciated startup disk and USB icons appear at boot). Let me know if you would like these adjusted in any way. Wordlife, Spencer [0]: macbootDVD.png [1]: macbootUSB.png ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] Help needed with screenshots of Mac boot menu with Tails
Hi, sajolida: I want something like this but wonder what the label is with Tails: http://cdn.osxdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/boot-from-os-x-yosemite-installer.jpg Using a library computer I can see that the label is 'Windows', and unlike Kali and the likes, there is no extra EFI volume :) That's for the instructions on the website. Bonus point if you manage to send a direct PNG screenshot and not a photo of the screen but I'm not sure that's possible. Find those hard drive volume icons and make one yourself (I will if you provide some sizing info). There are two volumes; one labeled 'Macintosh HD' (if not customized), and one labeled 'Windows'. Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] Desktop Camouflage
Hi, Copying dev since they care. I am checking in on the status of the camouflage feature for Jessie; is anybody porting it? Last thing I heard was intrigeri about a month ago after a dev list reminder. If not, I can update the relevant Greeter work. Let me know. Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] Brainstorming session on the connection process
Hi, Lunar: a couple pain points getting connected to the Tor network: * hard to notice to click on icon to select Wi-Fi network. A resolution is needed. * It's the first time I'm coming to this café... * It's the first time I'm coming to this office... User profiles are in active(ish) development, so we can address this there. * no clue to start the Unsafe Browser to get through captive portal. Some instruction is needed. * Tor can take while to notice that captive portal connects. Some feedback is needed. Tor meeting brainstorm summary. probably in the greeter 'Network' would fit nicely with 'Language', 'Storage', and 'Privacy', as it is common to include network configuration in an install/boot/startup flow. However, in our case, it might also be appropriate to have network configuration be some heads-up option in the desktop environment, as many people choose not to use networking, especially at boot, since they might want to ensure firewalls or monitors are properly working. 1. Automatic configuration. (I don't fear to be identified as a Tails user.) 2. Manual configuration. (I don't want to attract any attention and I know how to configure the network and Tor.) 3. Offline only. These are cool and could fit nicely in the Guided Configuration dialogs, should 'Networks' appear in the Greeter. Otherwise, we can figure something out. Attached (are) post-its Yay! The first one has a quote that is the topic of two discussions on various lists, detectability; though I don't know enough to yet determine if they can go anywhere. Spencer, interested in helping to make some wireframes? Sure. The block of instructions, starting with “Step 1/n”, would first need to be organized and refined, then some wires built on that and the flow you have included. I would like to hear from others as to the scope and feasibility of this, as it could impact what we have been trying to wrap up for testing, or not, depending on thoughts. Wordlife, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.
[Tails-dev] HTTP Mirror
Hello all, I have just finished setting up my new Tails mirror, which you can find here: 23.239.26.97. It will need to be accessed from "dl.amnesia.boum.org" as it is a virtual host. I do have one question, how long should I have the cron be waiting between rsyncs? Thanks, Spencer ___ Tails-dev mailing list Tails-dev@boum.org https://mailman.boum.org/listinfo/tails-dev To unsubscribe from this list, send an empty email to tails-dev-unsubscr...@boum.org.