Filter not working as expected

2004-01-07 Thread rich gregory
Hello Batters!

In trying to trash a spate of like minded emails I made a filter that seems
to have no effect but I would think it should.

The text in the body of the email varies slightly from message to message
BUT there are a few words common to all suitable for filtering on.

The offending target text is always something like:

Banned CD! Government don't want me to sell it.

The (edited) text version of my filter is below.

QUESTION: Why doesn't it work?!


BeginFilter
Name: Banned CD 1
Active: 1
Source: \\mailbox\Inbox
Target: \\mailbox\Trash
CopyFolder: none
MainSet: 30banned
MainSet: 40gov
MainSet: 30want
MainSet: 30sell


Thanks,
Rich





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Re: Filter not working as expected

2004-01-07 Thread MAU
Hello rich,

 MainSet: 40gov

Should be '30gov'. That is, Location should be Text and not Kludges.


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Re[2]: Filter not working as expected

2004-01-07 Thread rich gregory
 MainSet: 40gov
M Should be '30gov'. That is, Location should be Text and not Kludges.

(I am pretty sure) I had it set to TEXT (not kludges) FIRST!

(I am pretty sure) I had it set to TEXT (not kludges) then, once it failed to
work as expected, I think I set the gov string to KLUDGES from TEXT as the
true word I am trying to cite is Government.

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Re: Filter not working as expected

2004-01-07 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Hi Rich,

@7-Jan-2004, 05:27 -0500 (07-Jan 10:27 UK time) rich gregory [RG] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to MAU:

M Should be '30gov'. That is, Location should be Text and not Kludges.

RG (I am pretty sure) I had it set to TEXT (not kludges) FIRST!

RG (I am pretty sure) I had it set to TEXT (not kludges) then, once
RG it failed to work as expected, I think I set the gov string to
RG KLUDGES from TEXT as the true word I am trying to cite is
RG Government.

Kludges is the TB word for Message headers only. So it won't
work the way you're expecting. TB's signal strings are case
insensitive by default. You have to go out of your way (please refer
to the Help topic on the Sorting Office and signal strings for the
full explanation) to make strings case sensitive.

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Re: Filter not working as expected

2004-01-07 Thread Terry
Hi Rich,

On Wednesday, January 07, 2004 at 9:20 AM, you wrote:

 In trying to trash a spate of like minded emails I made a filter that seems
 to have no effect but I would think it should.

 The text in the body of the email varies slightly from message to message
 BUT there are a few words common to all suitable for filtering on.

snipped

 QUESTION: Why doesn't it work?!

I'm familiar with the messages you're describing. I don't think it is
a filter problem. The problem is that what appears to be plain text is
actually text interspersed with numerous (usually bogus) html tags. So
you're filtering on banned which is what is visible, but what's
actually in the source is bsome html tagannanother html taged.

The filter doesn't ignore the html tags. And since the tags are
randomly placed and can be made up of anything, it's near to
impossible to write a filter specifically for it. Take a look at the
source of the message (F9) and see if these tags are interspersed
throughout the message.

Your best bet to filter this type of spam is to use the spam
plug-in(s) or Popfile or something similar - a Bayesian filter that
learns as spammers come up with new tricks.

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Re[2]: Filter not working as expected

2004-01-07 Thread rich gregory
T ... what appears to be plain text is actually interspersed with bogus html
T tags. So banned is actually bsome html tagannanother html taged.

T The [TB!] filter doesn't ignore these html tags. And since the tags are
T randomly placed and can be made up of anything, it's near to impossible to
T write a filter specifically for it. Take a look at the source of the
T message (F9) and see ... these tags ... interspersed throughout the
T message.

T Your best bet to filter this type of spam is to use the spam plug-in(s) or
T Popfile or something similar - a Bayesian filter that learns as spammers
T come up with new tricks.

My Bayesian filter (a SpamPal plug-in) does mark such messages as spam and a
TB filter does file such messages in a suspect folder.

Though as a rule I do try hard to avoid such drastic actions I was hoping to
send THESE messages straight to the trash.

Thanks for the info above. I thought my TB! viewer did not recognize HTML at
all but I see this is not so.

Thx

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